From jason@dixongroup.net Wed Feb 4 16:26:48 2004 From: jason@dixongroup.net (Jason Dixon) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:26:48 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] [Fwd: Re: [WBEL-users] About RHEL 3 quaterly upgrade] Message-ID: <1075912008.3591.16.camel@lappy.fuzzypenguin.net> For informational purposes only... -----Forwarded Message----- From: Jason Dixon To: WhiteBox - Users Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] About RHEL 3 quaterly upgrade Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:19:47 -0500 On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 11:12, Francisco A. Lozano wrote: > I'm glad I haven't used it in production systems. > > Maybe WBEL wasn't such a good idea, after all. All of this chatter about WBEL being dead just makes me giggle. People, we're talking about a GPL'd distribution where ALL of the hard work has already been done. The 3.0 ISO's have already been released, all that needs to happen during the next 4.5 years is MAINTENANCE (rebuilding errata). Where are the folks that were bitching to HELP? Why not simply fork the project if you're a) so enamored with WBEL, and b) concerned that it's no longer being maintained by the original developer? -- Jason Dixon, RHCE DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net From Nathan.Tenney@pnl.gov Wed Feb 4 18:09:39 2004 From: Nathan.Tenney@pnl.gov (Tenney, Nathan D) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:09:39 -0800 Subject: [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild Message-ID: <03163D4F91A5BE42A03D943B1D1B0D1F01765EB0@pnlmse26.pnl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB4A.0E666E73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, so I joined this list more or less to pick peoples brains... mmm brains... I am rebuilding/rebranding RHEL, but I am not creating ISO's. Do I still need to rebuild the comps and rpm-db packages, or can I get by without them? Thanks. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB4A.0E666E73 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RHEL rebuild

Ok, so I joined this list more or less = to pick peoples brains… mmm brains…

I am rebuilding/rebranding RHEL, but I = am not creating ISO's.  Do I still need to rebuild the comps and = rpm-db packages, or can I get by without them?

Thanks.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB4A.0E666E73-- From michael_lynn@ml.com Wed Feb 4 18:15:15 2004 From: michael_lynn@ml.com (Lynn, Michael (IDS DM&DS)) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:15:15 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB4A.D6B1DCD6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In my exerience, if you add or delete packages from the repository you'll need to regenerate. Mostly adding - because hdlist needs to know about the new packages - but if you remove packages it's a good idea because even if your modified comps.xml doesn't refer to the package you removed - it may effect the dependency chain. If you simply modify comps to install only a subset of packages, you won't need a regen. You can safely regen... what's your concern? -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org]On Behalf Of Tenney, Nathan D Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:10 PM To: whitebox-devel@beau.org Subject: [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild Ok, so I joined this list more or less to pick peoples brains... mmm brains... I am rebuilding/rebranding RHEL, but I am not creating ISO's. Do I still need to rebuild the comps and rpm-db packages, or can I get by without them? Thanks. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB4A.D6B1DCD6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RHEL rebuild
In my exerience, if you add or delete packages from the repository you'll need to regenerate. 
 
Mostly adding - because hdlist needs to know about the new packages - but if you remove packages it's a good idea because even if your modified comps.xml doesn't refer to the package you removed - it may effect the dependency chain.
 
If you simply modify comps to install only a subset of packages, you won't need a regen.
 
You can safely regen... what's your concern?
 
-----Original Message-----
From: whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org]On Behalf Of Tenney, Nathan D
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:10 PM
To: whitebox-devel@beau.org
Subject: [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild

Ok, so I joined this list more or less to pick peoples brains... mmm brains...

I am rebuilding/rebranding RHEL, but I am not creating ISO's.  Do I still need to rebuild the comps and rpm-db packages, or can I get by without them?

Thanks.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB4A.D6B1DCD6-- From Nathan.Tenney@pnl.gov Wed Feb 4 19:18:18 2004 From: Nathan.Tenney@pnl.gov (Tenney, Nathan D) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:18:18 -0800 Subject: [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild Message-ID: <03163D4F91A5BE42A03D943B1D1B0D1F01765EB1@pnlmse26.pnl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB53.A56757BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess I should give more information. I actually am not using anaconda to install my system. I am using systeminstaller, and all I need are binary RPMS to work from. You pretty much answered my question in that I don't believe I need a valid hdlist. -----Original Message----- From: Lynn, Michael (IDS DM&DS) [mailto:michael_lynn@ml.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:15 AM To: Tenney, Nathan D; whitebox-devel@beau.org Subject: RE: [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild =09 =09 In my exerience, if you add or delete packages from the repository you'll need to regenerate. =20 =20 Mostly adding - because hdlist needs to know about the new packages - but if you remove packages it's a good idea because even if your modified comps.xml doesn't refer to the package you removed - it may effect the dependency chain. =20 If you simply modify comps to install only a subset of packages, you won't need a regen. =20 You can safely regen... what's your concern? =20 -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org]On Behalf Of Tenney, Nathan D Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:10 PM To: whitebox-devel@beau.org Subject: [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild =09 =09 Ok, so I joined this list more or less to pick peoples brains... mmm brains...=20 I am rebuilding/rebranding RHEL, but I am not creating ISO's. Do I still need to rebuild the comps and rpm-db packages, or can I get by without them? Thanks.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB53.A56757BB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I=20 guess I should give more information.  I actually am not using = anaconda to=20 install my system.  I am using systeminstaller, and all I need are = binary=20 RPMS to work from.  You pretty much answered my question in that I = don't=20 believe I need a valid hdlist.
-----Original Message-----
From: = Lynn, Michael=20 (IDS DM&DS) [mailto:michael_lynn@ml.com]
Sent: = Wednesday,=20 February 04, 2004 10:15 AM
To: Tenney, Nathan D;=20 whitebox-devel@beau.org
Subject: RE: [WBEL-devel] RHEL=20 rebuild

In=20 my exerience, if you add or delete packages from the=20 repository you'll need to regenerate. 
 
Mostly adding - because hdlist needs to know about the new = packages -=20 but if you remove packages it's a good idea because even if your = modified=20 comps.xml doesn't refer to the package you removed - it may effect the = dependency chain.
 
If=20 you simply modify comps to install only a subset of packages, you = won't need a=20 regen.
 
You=20 can safely regen... what's your concern?
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org = [mailto:whitebox-devel-admin@beau.org]On=20 Behalf Of Tenney, Nathan D
Sent: Wednesday, February = 04, 2004=20 1:10 PM
To: whitebox-devel@beau.org
Subject:=20 [WBEL-devel] RHEL rebuild

Ok, so I joined this list more or = less to pick=20 peoples brains... mmm brains...

I am rebuilding/rebranding RHEL, but = I am not=20 creating ISO's.  Do I still need to rebuild the comps and = rpm-db=20 packages, or can I get by without them?

Thanks.=20

=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EB53.A56757BB-- From vickir@beau.org Wed Feb 4 21:36:53 2004 From: vickir@beau.org (Vicki Reeves) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 15:36:53 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... Message-ID: <1075930613.3388.41.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> ... the rumors of WBEL's death have been greatly exaggerated. John, like most of the true geeks I've known does not say a lot when he does not have something to say. Given the level of meaningless chatter emitted by those who seldom know what they are talking about, the silences of geekdomites can be surprising - even make us feel insecureor ignored. I've learned it is actually a sign that everything is pretty much ok. -- Vicki Reeves vickir@beau.org Beauregard Parish Library http://www.library.beau.org Home of the White Box Linux Project http://www.whiteboxlinux.org Voice: (337) 463-6217 x19 Fax: (337) 462-5434 From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Thu Feb 5 10:11:54 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:11:54 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <1075930613.3388.41.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> References: <1075930613.3388.41.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> Message-ID: <20040205101154.GA32408@pluto.pslib.cz> On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 03:36:53PM -0600, Vicki Reeves wrote: > ... the rumors of WBEL's death have been greatly exaggerated. John, > like most of the true geeks I've known does not say a lot when he does > not have something to say. Given the level of meaningless chatter > emitted by those who seldom know what they are talking about, the > silences of geekdomites can be surprising - even make us feel insecureor > ignored. I've learned it is actually a sign that everything is pretty > much ok. There is no updates - this is a fact. There is no word about why. Morris is simply unable to release packages in acceptable time (at least for some people). And he and you want to help with nothing. So - do not post "we are geeks and we decide IF and WHEN if EVER do this and this". Simply accept fact, that there are no updates now and in the future this will be the same if you do not change something. I do not underestand why do not publically tell us what situation is and what every user of WBEL should accept. I did own distribution for years (1993-2000) and I know what may happen and I know that one man is unable to respond at time everey day. So do not hide this fact behind "geeks words". -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From christian.lacetera.guest@bancaintesa.it Thu Feb 5 13:19:19 2004 From: christian.lacetera.guest@bancaintesa.it (Christian Lacetera) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:19:19 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Anoter Clone Message-ID: <402242D7.8090700@bancaintesa.it> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --8541BCE831F09D350E3554C170B88EDA5E41A5DD Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040107050805040104000601" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040107050805040104000601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found another Clone of RHEL.... http://www.lineox.com/ --------------ms040107050805040104000601 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Message-ID: <1076098708.4023f69504549@webmail.sld.cu> hi everybody the new updates that are seeing in the mirrors, a bunch of it, are the update1 ? does the whitebox-announce list is completed dead? roger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodo central de la red Infomed (http://www.sld.cu) Usuario linux: 97152 (http://counter.li.org) Miembro del grupo de coordinacion de LinuxCuba (http://www.linux.cu) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Este mensaje fue enviado usando el servicio de correo en web de Infomed http://webmail.sld.cu From vickir@beau.org Fri Feb 6 21:27:12 2004 From: vickir@beau.org (Vicki Reeves) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:27:12 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-devel] update1 is comming into the mirrors?? In-Reply-To: <1076098708.4023f69504549@webmail.sld.cu> References: <1076098708.4023f69504549@webmail.sld.cu> Message-ID: <1076102832.3369.12.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 14:18, Roger Pe帽a Escobio wrote: > hi everybody > > the new updates that are seeing in the mirrors, a bunch of it, are the update1 ? > > does the whitebox-announce list is completed dead? Hi Roger, The updates are in progress. When they are completed, there will be a message on whitebox-announce. Thanks for your interest. -- Vicki Reeves vickir@beau.org Beauregard Parish Library http://www.library.beau.org Home of the White Box Linux Project http://www.whiteboxlinux.org Voice: (337) 463-6217 x19 Fax: (337) 462-5434 From joelm@webservices.net.nz Mon Feb 9 22:27:05 2004 From: joelm@webservices.net.nz (Joel Macklow) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:27:05 +1300 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <20040205101154.GA32408@pluto.pslib.cz> Message-ID: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> I have never come across someone who so openly moans and bitches about the progress of a new open source project, Milan. When the project was undergoing the v3 release trials, you were keen to through stabs at John for not responding to your emails/offers/et al. During this time John and co. were busy getting the release out and fixing the bugs that cropped up. For a new project this takes TIME to get sorted. While John hasn't said anything, I am guessing that he has systems now in place that enable the full build to happen much faster and easier than at first. As a community, we will benefit from this work in the future. We should all be expressing our thanks to John, Vicki and co. for the work they have put in so far. I agree with Vicki's comments re the project being dead. There not being a lot of mail is actually a sign that the project is hitting its target of being an almost identical version to the RH release. With regard to the updates. As you are now no doubt aware, the updates are in the process of being built and distributed to the mirrors. If I remember correctly, earlier on in the piece, John said his goal was 72 hrs after announcement. As with the distro, this large batch of updates is no doubt being built, tested and a process developed so that future updates (for the next 5 years) can be released closer to the initial expected timeframe. This takes TIME it get worked out. You have expressed concern about John not having explained himself as to the delay. Maybe this is because he is actually busy doing it and can't take 20 mins to think and type a reply! Why don't we just leave him to do it? If you need updates 60 seconds after they are announced, the srpms are available for download from RedHat. Build them yourself. You obviously have the experience. Another option of course would be to shell out the cash and buy RHEL if you need all the updates ASAP. My observations so far re: John is that when he is busy with: life, library, building distro/updates, we don't hear from him. Where is the problem? >From what I can tell, there are at least three people at the library who are very involved in the project, so if John did get run over by a bus, the project would still continue. I hope John has time in his busy schedule to read this diatribe. I want him to know that there are people who are thankful, grateful and appreciative for what he and his co-workers have accomplished so far. Keep up the good work people! May be we can all learn a little more patience and human compassion for what other people do for free. Joel. From aiic@163.com Tue Feb 10 01:04:03 2004 From: aiic@163.com (aiic) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:04:03 +0800 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] =?gb2312?B?UGxlYXNlIHRlbGwgYSBtYW4gaW4gYW54aW91cyB3YWl0aW5nLS0tV2g=?= =?gb2312?B?ZW4=?= Message-ID: <40282E03.000078.08672@bj252.163.com> Hi everyone! When will a new version of whitebox will be released? In 3 days? In a week? I 'm looking forward to it really. Sorry, I don't mean to urge anyone, I just want to know the time. Thanks for John Morris for his nice initial work of whitebox linux, thanks for all who contributes to whitebox linux. It helps me a lot. Xu Hao Beijing ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 网易VIP收费邮箱两周年超值优惠! 满1赠6！！　 http://vip.163.com 中国最大的免费邮箱在等你 25兆空间4兆附件！　　　　　 http://mail.163.com 点击网易泡泡惊喜无限 全免费手机短信任你发!　　　　　　http://popo.163.com From pri.wbel@iadonisi.to Tue Feb 10 01:34:36 2004 From: pri.wbel@iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 20:34:36 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Please tell a man in anxious waiting---When In-Reply-To: <40282E03.000078.08672@bj252.163.com> References: <40282E03.000078.08672@bj252.163.com> Message-ID: <1076376876.26375.82.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 20:04, aiic wrote: > Hi everyone! > > When will a new version of whitebox will be released? In 3 days? In a week? I 'm looking forward to it really. Sorry, I don't mean to urge anyone, I just want to know the time. New version? In 3 days?!?! More like 4.5 years. Seriously, if you follow the project goals, other than errata, the project is basically done. Well, technically, a new release might be in order about 12 months from now (less? when was RHEL3 released, anyhow...August I think), as that's when RHEL4 will probably be released, but it'll very likely depend on the resources of John Morris and others at the library. Maintaining one release maybe enough work to keep them busy. Maybe. Who knows. But it is unlikely that you will see a new release of WBEL before the next release or RHEL as that is what it is based on and is meant to track it as closely as possible. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From pri.wbel@iadonisi.to Tue Feb 10 01:46:46 2004 From: pri.wbel@iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 20:46:46 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> References: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> Message-ID: <1076377606.26375.95.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 17:27, Joel Macklow wrote: > I have never come across someone who so openly moans and bitches about the > progress of a new open source project, Milan. Here, here. I've been trying to come up with the words, but you've done a better (and more civil) job than I could have. [snip] > I agree with Vicki's comments re the project being dead. There not being a > lot of mail is actually a sign that the project is hitting its target of > being an almost identical version to the RH release. I gave a presentation recently about alternatives to RHEL and specifically gave WBEL a plug and mentioned just this fact...the substantial decrease in traffic on this list, and peculiar to a project like this, is actually a good sign. Mission accomplished. Thank, John, Vicki, and others at Beauregard Parish Public Library! (Not that there's *nothing* left to do, but just that bulk of the work appears to be done.) [snip] > ... If > you need updates 60 seconds after they are announced, the srpms are > available for download from RedHat. Build them yourself. You obviously have > the experience. And this is a perfectly acceptable option. WBEL forms the base. The isos are out there, the srpms from Red Hat are, for the most part, a *breeze* to build yourself with 'rpmbuild --rebuild ' once you've got the base distribution of WBEL installed. Do that, and you are not even dependent on John, or anyone else at the library. Completely independent, with ease, no less. With the exception of the occasional problem that may crop up in rebuilding a specific rpm. That's where this list may come in handy in the future for those who choose the path of building their own updates. [snip] > I hope John has time in his busy schedule to read this diatribe. I want him > to know that there are people who are thankful, grateful and appreciative > for what he and his co-workers have accomplished so far. Keep up the good > work people! I, for one, would like to echo that sentiment. Thank you so much, John and friends at the library for this awesome contribution! -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From jmorris@beau.org Tue Feb 10 01:41:24 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:41:24 -0600 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] SAMPLE: [WBSA-# 2003:404-01] Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability Message-ID: Yes, I have been AWOL for several weeks, but finally have enough fires out elsewhere..... All of the recent errata + the update1 packages have now propagated to the mirrors, just need to get the announcents out. Here is a proposed format. It has the advantages of being very simple and rips off enough of the numbering scheme from RH to make cross tabbing with their errata easy. It avoids swiping huge swaths of their text wholesale but by including a link to their mailing list it is easy to see the details on each bug to know how fast you need to apply the fix. Unlike RH I'm putting the version number (3.0) in the header. As multiple versions/platforms appear it will probably look more like: WBEL 3.0, 4.0 (i386, amd64) Does anyone see a problem with the format before I embark on a frenzy of cut/paste and post -announce messages for all of the errata? It would be a good thing to get the format nailed down for automated tools to process the errata posts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Security Advisory Synopsis: Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability Advisory ID: WBSA-2003:404-01 Issue date: 2004-02-09 Updated on: 2003-12-17 Product: White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 Keywords: Cross references: Obsoletes: CVE Names: CAN-2003-0963 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Updated lftp packages are now available that fix a buffer overflow security vulnerability. More information is available in Red Hat, Inc's original advisory available on their site at: http://www.redhat.com/archives/enterprise-watch-list/2003-December/msg00008.html From jimmy@kaplowitz.org Tue Feb 10 02:40:45 2004 From: jimmy@kaplowitz.org (Jimmy Kaplowitz) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:40:45 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] SAMPLE: [WBSA-# 2003:404-01] Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040210024045.GB10252@mail.kaplowitz.org> --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:41:24PM -0600, John Morris wrote: > Does anyone see a problem with the format before I embark on a frenzy of > cut/paste and post -announce messages for all of the errata? It would be > a good thing to get the format nailed down for automated tools to process > the errata posts. [snip down to the body of the sample advisory] > More information is available in Red Hat, Inc's original advisory=20 > available on their site at: >=20 > http://www.redhat.com/archives/enterprise-watch-list/2003-December/msg000= 08.html You might want to add a section to the advisory template with WBEL-specific instructions for getting your updates rather than the Red Hat ones which are unavailable to most WBEL users. Not all recipients of these advisories will necessarily be savvy enough to know this themselves. - Jimmy Kaplowitz jimmy@kaplowitz.org --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAKESs6uPcNfDX1EoRApf6AJ4qoj9n+8u5Fo7GvWTc24aOEvFPFwCeKP+k pOmd6sLDbWGvvih0d/b+iHU= =yzBu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg-- From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Feb 10 13:28:08 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:28:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] SAMPLE: [WBSA-# 2003:404-01] Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability In-Reply-To: <20040210024045.GB10252@mail.kaplowitz.org> References: <20040210024045.GB10252@mail.kaplowitz.org> Message-ID: <3476.12.29.16.103.1076419688.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Jimmy Kaplowitz said: > You might want to add a section to the advisory template with > WBEL-specific instructions for getting your updates rather than the Red > Hat ones which are unavailable to most WBEL users. ?? As configured up2date will get Whitebox updates just fine. Providing a path where you can find them on a mirror might help if someone doesn't want to use up2date for some reason (kind of like Fedora's notices). An example: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/msg00009.html -- William Hooper From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Feb 10 13:45:52 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:45:52 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <1076377606.26375.95.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> <1076377606.26375.95.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1076420752.7746.35.camel@myth.home.local> On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 19:46, Paul Iadonisi wrote: [snip] > > ... If > > you need updates 60 seconds after they are announced, the srpms are > > available for download from RedHat. Build them yourself. You obviously have > > the experience. > > And this is a perfectly acceptable option. WBEL forms the base. The > isos are out there, the srpms from Red Hat are, for the most part, a > *breeze* to build yourself with 'rpmbuild --rebuild ' once you've > got the base distribution of WBEL installed. Do that, and you are not > even dependent on John, or anyone else at the library. Completely > independent, with ease, no less. With the exception of the occasional > problem that may crop up in rebuilding a specific rpm. That's where > this list may come in handy in the future for those who choose the path > of building their own updates. I agree totally with this. John has been very responsive on the normal security updates (usually within 24 hours)... the Quarterly updates (I think it was 62 packages for the first one) are going to take a little longer. If there is something that is extremely critical for your individual install, then just rebuild it yourself if you can't wait a week or two. We should, by now, know the parameters that John has set out. He will maintain the x86 versions, use it if you want ... there are other people maintaining a x86_64 version. If John wants help with building (or distribution), he will ask, probably on this list. I'm not an expert or anything, but having been on this mailing list since before the first release, what I have observed is this. If you offer help and don't get a response, the help is not needed ... if you get a response then consider it a bonus. ----------------- We do need to figure out why some of the ISO's on the mirrors have the wrong md5sum ... and how it keeps happening. From jbrouhard@kcosc.com Tue Feb 10 14:33:46 2004 From: jbrouhard@kcosc.com (Joe Brouhard) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:33:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] SAMPLE: [WBSA-# 2003:404-01] Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability In-Reply-To: <3476.12.29.16.103.1076419688.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <20040210024045.GB10252@mail.kaplowitz.org> <3476.12.29.16.103.1076419688.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1217.207.192.215.62.1076423626.squirrel@webmail.kcosc.com> > > Jimmy Kaplowitz said: >> You might want to add a section to the advisory template with >> WBEL-specific instructions for getting your updates rather than the Red >> Hat ones which are unavailable to most WBEL users. > > ?? As configured up2date will get Whitebox updates just fine. > > Providing a path where you can find them on a mirror might help if someone > doesn't want to use up2date for some reason (kind of like Fedora's > notices). An example: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/msg00009.html > I agree... either that, or provide absolute links to the .src.rpms ?? I have quite a few custom RPMs on my primary mailserver (postfix for one) and if I run yum update, it'll likely over-ride my configuration (or rather, how postfix was built). i don't see any real problems, as I'd be testing all new packages on an identical system, but it'd be nice if the security notices had links to the .src.rpms Just my two cents. -- Joe Brouhard Chief of Information Services Kansas City Open Source Consultants jbrouhard@kcosc.com From roger@infomed.sld.cu Tue Feb 10 14:09:54 2004 From: roger@infomed.sld.cu (Roger =?iso-8859-1?b?UGXxYQ==?= Escobio) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:09:54 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] SAMPLE: [WBSA-# 2003:404-01] Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1076422194.4028e6326c86c@webmail.sld.cu> Mensaje citado por John Morris : > Yes, I have been AWOL for several weeks, but finally have enough fires out > elsewhere..... > > All of the recent errata + the update1 packages have now propagated to the > mirrors, just need to get the announcents out. Here is a proposed format. John i download the updates avalaibles from NCSU, they are sit there since Feb 6 and i thought ther wasn't more to propagated so i try to make an update and i get this: Resolving dependencies package tomcat-libs needs lib-org-apache-tools-1.5.2.so (not provided) package tomcat needs lib-org-apache-tools-1.5.2.so (not provided) i couldn't find any lib-org-apache-tools in the mirror so i look it at rpmfind.net http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=lib-org-apache-tools-1.5.2.so&submit=Search+... and it tell me that this .so should be provided by ant, but it isn't ... so i notice that there is a package ant-libs who provide lib-org-apache-tools-[names]-1.5.2.so so :-( is it a RHEL bug or a WB bug? thanks very much for this monumental work that WBEL is. roger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodo central de la red Infomed (http://www.sld.cu) Usuario linux: 97152 (http://counter.li.org) Miembro del grupo de coordinacion de LinuxCuba (http://www.linux.cu) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Este mensaje fue enviado usando el servicio de correo en web de Infomed http://webmail.sld.cu From jmorris@beau.org Tue Feb 10 14:35:16 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:35:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] SAMPLE: [WBSA-# 2003:404-01] Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability In-Reply-To: <20040210024045.GB10252@mail.kaplowitz.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > > a good thing to get the format nailed down for automated tools to process > > the errata posts. > > You might want to add a section to the advisory template with > WBEL-specific instructions for getting your updates rather than the Red > Hat ones which are unavailable to most WBEL users. Not all recipients of > these advisories will necessarily be savvy enough to know this > themselves. Very good idea. Should be able to just have some boilerplate about using Up2date/yum in the template. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Feb 10 15:10:17 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:10:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] SAMPLE: [WBSA-# 2003:404-01] Updated lftp packages fix security vulnerability In-Reply-To: <1217.207.192.215.62.1076423626.squirrel@webmail.kcosc.com> References: <20040210024045.GB10252@mail.kaplowitz.org> <3476.12.29.16.103.1076419688.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1217.207.192.215.62.1076423626.squirrel@webmail.kcosc.com> Message-ID: <4683.12.29.16.103.1076425817.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Joe Brouhard said: > >> >> Jimmy Kaplowitz said: >>> You might want to add a section to the advisory template with >>> WBEL-specific instructions for getting your updates rather than the Red >>> Hat ones which are unavailable to most WBEL users. >> >> ?? As configured up2date will get Whitebox updates just fine. >> >> Providing a path where you can find them on a mirror might help if >> someone >> doesn't want to use up2date for some reason (kind of like Fedora's >> notices). An example: >> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/msg00009.html >> > > I agree... either that, or provide absolute links to the .src.rpms ?? > > I have quite a few custom RPMs on my primary mailserver (postfix for one) > and if I run yum update, it'll likely over-ride my configuration (or > rather, how postfix was built). Getting OT, but you can set yum (but not up2date) to exclude certain packages from a repo so that anything you build locally wouldn't get upgraded automatically. -- William Hooper From ecm103@york.ac.uk Tue Feb 10 15:37:21 2004 From: ecm103@york.ac.uk (Ewan Mac Mahon) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:37:21 +0000 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <1076420752.7746.35.camel@myth.home.local> References: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> <1076377606.26375.95.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> <1076420752.7746.35.camel@myth.home.local> Message-ID: <20040210153721.GA2353@york.ac.uk> On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 07:45:52AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > [snip] > I agree totally with this. John has been very responsive on the normal > security updates (usually within 24 hours)... the Quarterly updates (I > think it was 62 packages for the first one) are going to take a little > longer. If there is something that is extremely critical for your > individual install, then just rebuild it yourself if you can't wait a > week or two. > That's OK for those of us with the experience and resources to build the updates ourselves, but it seems a bit silly to have several people doing the exact same thing and not sharing the results for the benefit of everyone else. This "I'm alright Jack" attitude of just leeching John's stuff that he's good enough to share and not reciprocating is easy, but it doesn't feel too good. > We should, by now, know the parameters that John has set out. He will > maintain the x86 versions, use it if you want ... there are other people > maintaining a x86_64 version. > There was an email from John back on the 16th of December saying that he'd be happy to host the ports on whiteboxlinux.org so that the mirrors would pick them up, and laying out a list of things that the ports would need to do. As I understand it the ports have done most of those things, but there's still no sign of them on the mirrors. Again, you might be alright without non-x86 ports, but that doesn't stop it being a problem for other people. 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OEU1NDhCNDI0MUIwMDkyQTBGNDhFQ0U3MUMwMTExMURCNkB1c21haWwyazI+AAAAAGGb ----=_NextPart_ST_11_37_00_Tuesday_February_10_2004_17009-- From aiic@163.com Wed Feb 11 00:48:40 2004 From: aiic@163.com (aiic) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:48:40 +0800 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFJlOiBbV0JFTC1kZXZlbF0gUGxlYXNlIHRlbGwgYSBtYW4gaW4=?= =?gb2312?B?IGFueGlvdXMgd2FpdGluZy0tLVdoZW4=?= Message-ID: <40297BE8.000003.15752@bj252.163.com> OK, I used the wrong words. Not "a new version". I mean a new set of WBEL3 isos in which all current RHEL3 updates are applied. May be you will not make them available, but only errata rpms, that's ok too. Thank you for your efforts on WBEL. XuHao Beijing > On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 20:04, aiic wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > > > When will a new version of whitebox will be released? In 3 days? In a week? I 'm looking forward to it really. Sorry, I don't mean to urge anyone, I just want to know the time. > > New version? In 3 days?!?! More like 4.5 years. Seriously, if you > follow the project goals, other than errata, the project is basically > done. > Well, technically, a new release might be in order about 12 months > from now (less? when was RHEL3 released, anyhow...August I think), as > that's when RHEL4 will probably be released, but it'll very likely > depend on the resources of John Morris and others at the library. > Maintaining one release maybe enough work to keep them busy. Maybe. > Who knows. But it is unlikely that you will see a new release of WBEL > before the next release or RHEL as that is what it is based on and is > meant to track it as closely as possible. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 网易VIP收费邮箱两周年超值优惠! 满1赠6！！　 http://vip.163.com 中国最大的免费邮箱在等你 25兆空间4兆附件！　　　　　 http://mail.163.com 点击网易泡泡惊喜无限 全免费手机短信任你发!　　　　　　http://popo.163.com From aiic@163.com Wed Feb 11 00:50:50 2004 From: aiic@163.com (aiic) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:50:50 +0800 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFtXQkVMLWRldmVsXSBCdWlsZCBTY3JpcHRz?= Message-ID: <40297C6A.000102.15418@bj252.163.com> I think you can get most of them from the howto page of www.whiteboxlinux.org. > Forgive me, as I'm sure this was answered while I was offline, but I can't find it in my archives. > > Did anyone come up with a starting point for a set of build scripts for WBEL? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 网易VIP收费邮箱两周年超值优惠! 满1赠6！！　 http://vip.163.com 中国最大的免费邮箱在等你 25兆空间4兆附件！　　　　　 http://mail.163.com 点击网易泡泡惊喜无限 全免费手机短信任你发!　　　　　　http://popo.163.com From aiic@163.com Wed Feb 11 01:40:59 2004 From: aiic@163.com (aiic) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:40:59 +0800 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] =?gb2312?B?VGhpcyBpcyBhIGludGVybmF0aW9uYWwgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0?= Message-ID: <4029882B.0000BD.17411@bj252.163.com> Gentlemen: Whitebox Linux is international, and this is an international mailing list, it is for users of all nations, at least I think it is. So when you are posting a message to this list, please do your best to use standard English language, not American English slangs, vulgarism, or spoken English.....things like that, this will reduce many reading difficulties for non-English-mother-tongued people. When I post messages to some asian-wide lists, I always use Mandarin; when I post messages to lists like this, I always try my best to use standard English(though my English is not very good); so people will easily understand me. Thank you. X.H. Beijing ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 网易VIP收费邮箱两周年超值优惠! 满1赠6！！　 http://vip.163.com 中国最大的免费邮箱在等你 25兆空间4兆附件！　　　　　 http://mail.163.com 点击网易泡泡惊喜无限 全免费手机短信任你发!　　　　　　http://popo.163.com From aiic@163.com Wed Feb 11 02:30:01 2004 From: aiic@163.com (aiic) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:30:01 +0800 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] =?gb2312?B?TmV3IFdCRUwzIElTTyA/?= Message-ID: <402993A9.000029.18908@bj252.163.com> I want to know whether you are going to make ISOs with all updates apllied available. That is good, at least for me. Thanks. X.H. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 网易VIP收费邮箱两周年超值优惠! 满1赠6！！　 http://vip.163.com 中国最大的免费邮箱在等你 25兆空间4兆附件！　　　　　 http://mail.163.com 点击网易泡泡惊喜无限 全免费手机短信任你发!　　　　　　http://popo.163.com From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Wed Feb 11 02:40:51 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:40:51 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <20040210153721.GA2353@york.ac.uk> References: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> <1076377606.26375.95.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> <1076420752.7746.35.camel@myth.home.local> <20040210153721.GA2353@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1076467250.19102.22.camel@myth.home.local> On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 09:37, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote: > That's OK for those of us with the experience and resources to build the > updates ourselves, but it seems a bit silly to have several people doing > the exact same thing and not sharing the results for the benefit of > everyone else. This "I'm alright Jack" attitude of just leeching John's > stuff that he's good enough to share and not reciprocating is easy, but it > doesn't feel too good. > If John was asking for help and people were saying "No way ... we just want the stuff, and we don't want to give anything back" then it would certainly not be OK. I'm not suggesting any such thing. John wants to do the updates himself, and he doesn't want the help...therefore complaining about it is counter productive. The people in the know about the whitebox project (Jamey, John and Vicki) have said as much ... but some people don't want it that way, and are not willing to accept that answer. WhiteBox is John's baby and if we want to use it, it should be by his rules ... not yours, mine or anyone else's. That's all I am saying. If John asked for help, I would be the first one to do so ... In fact, I offered (off list) to be in charge of composing and sending update messages to the whitebox-announce list. I would be glad to compile updates and even provide about 1/2 a T-1 of upload bandwidth if it were required, but whitebox has enough mirrors and John is doing all the updates... Certainly continuing to whine, moan, and complain at/about the developer of a project about his policy is silly ... if the project's community involvement is not what some people want, then they should create their own project ... then they can implement exactly what they want. Another option is the CentOS distro at http://www.caosity.org ... - Johnny Hughes From upi@iki.fi Wed Feb 11 03:13:36 2004 From: upi@iki.fi (Pasi Pirhonen) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:13:36 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <20040210153721.GA2353@york.ac.uk> References: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> <1076377606.26375.95.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> <1076420752.7746.35.camel@myth.home.local> <20040210153721.GA2353@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20040211031336.GA9306@gandalf.ipv6.papat.org> Hi, On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 03:37:21PM +0000, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 07:45:52AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > We should, by now, know the parameters that John has set out. He will > > maintain the x86 versions, use it if you want ... there are other people > > maintaining a x86_64 version. > > > There was an email from John back on the 16th of December saying that he'd > be happy to host the ports on whiteboxlinux.org so that the mirrors would > pick them up, and laying out a list of things that the ports would need to > do. As I understand it the ports have done most of those things, but > there's still no sign of them on the mirrors. Again, you might be alright > without non-x86 ports, but that doesn't stop it being a problem for other > people. > I think it's time for me to grawl out under the rocktoo. As i remeber it, i have never promised to maintain the x86_64 ot ia64 ports of whitebox. Those were intended to be 'first public test releases'. I have made my own conclusions past over a month and most propably won't do that either. Sadly i am leaning towards Tao Linux which does have much better dialog going on (and mybe even cAoS). Even tho there has not been formal release notification yet, the ISO-images are mirrored on the official site. My only goal actually is to have free alternative for myself and my employer which as side effect will produce it for others too. Sadly i am lazy on the artwork, so it's much more easy for me to step just in and complete the set of archs for some other already modified distribution. Most of the updates between all the free alternatives are cross installable tho, but there are some differencies. And please don't read between lines as wnglish is not my native language :) -- Pasi Pirhonen - upi@iki.fi - http://iki.fi/upi/ From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Wed Feb 11 17:01:28 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:01:28 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> References: <20040205101154.GA32408@pluto.pslib.cz> <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> Message-ID: <20040211170128.GC26488@pluto.pslib.cz> On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 11:27:05AM +1300, Joel Macklow wrote: > I have never come across someone who so openly moans and bitches about the > progress of a new open source project, Milan. Don't bitching me, please. I don't bitching Morris. I simply do not accept the dialog I see here (do not ask, we are geeks, don't help to us, we don't have this, we give this out when we decide to do so, build port we put it here, do not ask for ports, we do not place the bits we asked for here, you bitching me, we are busy, we don't want to know if there is working updates already and so on). So: 1) I placed AMD64 port on my FTP server 2) I'm maintaining updates for AMD64 in time 3) I have updates for x86 in reasonable time in my repository 4) I have repository with add-on packages for RHEL3 (WBEL 3.0) Next time think about this first. I don't want to make releases, I don't want to sign packages, I don't want to have access to Morris's FTP server, I don't want to have my name on WBEL pages etc. If there is something I want to - Don't reinvent the wheel, be honest, be open. Simply - do things the same way like guys working on bits in packages we take in the past (ie RHEL 3 SRPMS) and do not close itself. RC1 ports for AMD64 and IA64: ftp://ftp.vslib.cz/pub/mirrors/whiteboxlinux.org/people/pasi.pirhonen/ My bits: ftp://ftp.vslib.cz/pub/mirrors/whiteboxlinux.org/people/milan.kerslager/ Shorter path: ftp://ftp.vslib.cz/pub/local/milan.kerslager/RHEL-3/testing.updates/ ftp://ftp.vslib.cz/pub/local/milan.kerslager/RHEL-3/RPMS/ Mirror: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/people/milan_kerslager/ -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Wed Feb 11 17:03:45 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:03:45 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] update1 is comming into the mirrors?? In-Reply-To: <1076102832.3369.12.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> References: <1076098708.4023f69504549@webmail.sld.cu> <1076102832.3369.12.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> Message-ID: <20040211170345.GD26488@pluto.pslib.cz> On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 03:27:12PM -0600, Vicki Reeves wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 14:18, Roger Pe??a Escobio wrote: > > hi everybody > > > > the new updates that are seeing in the mirrors, a bunch of it, are the update1 ? > > > > does the whitebox-announce list is completed dead? > Hi Roger, > > The updates are in progress. When they are completed, there will be a > message on whitebox-announce. Thanks for your interest. There is no message in whitebox-announce. Last is from Dec 17 2003. http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-announce/ -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From jbrouhard@kcosc.com Wed Feb 11 17:35:46 2004 From: jbrouhard@kcosc.com (Joe Brouhard) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:35:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] update1 is comming into the mirrors?? In-Reply-To: <20040211170345.GD26488@pluto.pslib.cz> References: <1076098708.4023f69504549@webmail.sld.cu> <1076102832.3369.12.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> <20040211170345.GD26488@pluto.pslib.cz> Message-ID: <1398.207.192.215.62.1076520946.squirrel@webmail.kcosc.com> > > There is no message in whitebox-announce. Last is from Dec 17 2003. > > http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-announce/ > Geez.. give them a chance to throughly test things! can't expect a "one-man working crew" to work as fast as RedHat... RedHat employs more than 200 people. -- Joe Brouhard Chief of Information Services Kansas City Open Source Consultants jbrouhard@kcosc.com From pri.wbel@iadonisi.to Wed Feb 11 17:48:50 2004 From: pri.wbel@iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:48:50 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] In the words of Mark Twain ... In-Reply-To: <20040211170128.GC26488@pluto.pslib.cz> References: <20040205101154.GA32408@pluto.pslib.cz> <200402092227.i19MR6bp018783@dbmail-mx5.orcon.co.nz> <20040211170128.GC26488@pluto.pslib.cz> Message-ID: <1076521730.11758.7.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 12:01, Milan Kerslager wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 11:27:05AM +1300, Joel Macklow wrote: > > I have never come across someone who so openly moans and bitches about the > > progress of a new open source project, Milan. > > Don't bitching me, please. I don't bitching Morris. I simply do not > accept the dialog I see here (do not ask, we are geeks, don't help to You know, I thought it might be a communication problem because of a language barrier, but I'm convinced otherwise, now. I suggest that we stop feeding this self-righteous troll. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From pri.wbel@iadonisi.to Wed Feb 11 18:13:02 2004 From: pri.wbel@iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:13:02 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Re: Re: [WBEL-devel] Please tell a man in anxious waiting---When In-Reply-To: <40297BE8.000003.15752@bj252.163.com> References: <40297BE8.000003.15752@bj252.163.com> Message-ID: <1076523181.11758.11.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 19:48, aiic wrote: > OK, I used the wrong words. Not "a new version". I mean a new set of WBEL3 isos in which all current RHEL3 updates are applied. May be you will not make them available, but only errata rpms, that's ok too. I think the same answer applies, here, too. Too the best of my knowledge, Red Hat does not publish updated isos, so it's unlikely that John will be doing that, either. However, errata *are* being provided...once you install WBEL, you can do a 'yum update' and it will grab the updates from a mirror. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From tony.coffman@pbs.proquest.com Wed Feb 11 18:27:40 2004 From: tony.coffman@pbs.proquest.com (Coffman, Tony) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:27:40 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Re: Re: [WBEL-devel] Please tell a man in anxiou s waiting---When Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Iadonisi [mailto:pri.wbel@iadonisi.to] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:13 PM > To: WhiteBox EL > Subject: Re: [WBEL-devel] Re: Re: [WBEL-devel] Please tell a > man in anxious waiting---When > > On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 19:48, aiic wrote: > > OK, I used the wrong words. Not "a new version". I mean a > new set of WBEL3 isos in which all current RHEL3 updates are > applied. May be you will not make them available, but only > errata rpms, that's ok too. > > I think the same answer applies, here, too. Too the best of my > knowledge, Red Hat does not publish updated isos, so it's > unlikely that Red Hat does re-master the .iso images. I've got a set of the new RHEL 3.0 update 1 .iso's on my desk right now. Both the original and the update 1 .iso are available on RHN. --Tony Coffman mailto:tony.coffman@pbs.proquest.com From pri.wbel@iadonisi.to Wed Feb 11 18:36:22 2004 From: pri.wbel@iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:36:22 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Re: Re: [WBEL-devel] Please tell a man in anxiou s waiting---When In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1076524582.11758.19.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 13:27, Coffman, Tony wrote: [snip] > > I think the same answer applies, here, too. Too the best of my > > knowledge, Red Hat does not publish updated isos, so it's > > unlikely that > > Red Hat does re-master the .iso images. I've got a set of the new RHEL 3.0 > update 1 .iso's on my desk right now. I stand corrected. I suppose only John can answer whether or not he will do the same for WBEL. I usually set up NFS install servers for the current release and keep my tree updated, so either way, I'm happy. Updated isos are nice for standalone (non-networked) installs, however. For me, those are rare these days. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From jmorris@beau.org Wed Feb 11 18:33:31 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:33:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFJlOiBbV0JFTC1kZXZlbF0gUGxlYXNlIHRlbGwgYSBtYW4gaW4=?= =?gb2312?B?IGFueGlvdXMgd2FpdGluZy0tLVdoZW4=?= In-Reply-To: <40297BE8.000003.15752@bj252.163.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, aiic wrote: > OK, I used the wrong words. Not "a new version". I mean a new set of > WBEL3 isos in which all current RHEL3 updates are applied. May be you > will not make them available, but only errata rpms, that's ok too. Current thinking is to wait until at least update2 before respinning. The big decision point is the size of the errata. As of now they all fit on one CD with the SRPMS. On the other hand we already have new installs having to instantly download a new kernel, glibc, all of XFree86, rpm and even up2date. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From roger@infomed.sld.cu Wed Feb 11 18:58:15 2004 From: roger@infomed.sld.cu (Roger =?iso-8859-1?b?UGXxYQ==?= Escobio) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:58:15 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] update1 is comming into the mirrors?? In-Reply-To: <1398.207.192.215.62.1076520946.squirrel@webmail.kcosc.com> References: <1076098708.4023f69504549@webmail.sld.cu> <1076102832.3369.12.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> <20040211170345.GD26488@pluto.pslib.cz> <1398.207.192.215.62.1076520946.squirrel@webmail.kcosc.com> Message-ID: <1076525895.402a7b479618a@webmail.sld.cu> Mensaje citado por Joe Brouhard : > > > > There is no message in whitebox-announce. Last is from Dec 17 2003. > > > > http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-announce/ > > ok, i download the updates from: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/whitebox/3.0/en/updates it is dated in Feb 6 but tomcat need lib-org-apache-tools-1.5.2.so, see: Resolving dependencies .package tomcat-libs needs lib-org-apache-tools-1.5.2.so (not provided) package tomcat needs lib-org-apache-tools-1.5.2.so (not provided) and this file is owned by ant-libs-1.5.2-20 whichis superseed by version 1.5.2-23, and that version didn't provide that file, see: $ rpm -qlp i386/ant-libs-1.5.2-23.i386.rpm /usr/lib/lib-org-apache-tools-ant-1.5.2.so /usr/lib/lib-org-apache-tools-ant-taskdefs-optional-1.5.2.so /usr/lib/lib-org-apache-tools-bzip2-1.5.2.so /usr/lib/lib-org-apache-tools-mail-1.5.2.so /usr/lib/lib-org-apache-tools-tar-1.5.2.so /usr/lib/lib-org-apache-tools-zip-1.5.2.so /usr/share/java/ant-1.5.2.jar /usr/share/java/ant-optional-1.5.2.jar so, ant can't be update because tomcat complain... is this a WBEL bug or an Redhat bug ? thanks roger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodo central de la red Infomed (http://www.sld.cu) Usuario linux: 97152 (http://counter.li.org) Miembro del grupo de coordinacion de LinuxCuba (http://www.linux.cu) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Este mensaje fue enviado usando el servicio de correo en web de Infomed http://webmail.sld.cu From vickir@beau.org Wed Feb 11 19:41:12 2004 From: vickir@beau.org (Vicki Reeves) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:41:12 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-devel] update] update1 is comming into the mirrors?? Message-ID: <1076528472.3610.40.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 11:03, Milan Kerslager wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 03:27:12PM -0600, Vicki Reeves wrote: > > The updates are in progress. When they are completed, there > > will be a message on whitebox-announce. Thanks for your > > interest. > > There is no message in whitebox-announce. Last is from Dec 17 2003. Hi Milan, I realize that we will have misunderstandings based on word meanings and customs. As someone else recently pointed out, this is an international list. Since it was my post that caused your confusion, I guess I need to explain what I mean by completed. To me, completed means that the release is up, tested by a few people who didn't work on the development and at least pretty much known not to be a brown paper bag project. Hummm, maybe I should explain what I mean by brown paper bag project. If you want to wear a brown paper bag over your head in case you meet someone who tried to use the product, it was a bpb project. Re your earlier post, I'm glad to hear you are making your efforts available to the list. -- Vicki Reeves vickir@beau.org Beauregard Parish Library http://www.library.beau.org Home of the White Box Linux Project http://www.whiteboxlinux.org Voice: (337) 463-6217 x19 Fax: (337) 462-5434 From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Thu Feb 12 11:55:02 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:55:02 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] arpwatch is missing in WBEL updates (tcpdump source) Message-ID: <20040212115502.GA6481@pluto.pslib.cz> Hi, arpwatch-2.1a11-7.E3.1.i386.rpm is not in updates (this package is coming from tcpdump package). http://whiteboxlinux.org/pub/3.0/en/updates/i386/ -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From xh@bmi.ac.cn Thu Feb 12 12:05:50 2004 From: xh@bmi.ac.cn (Xu Hao) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:05:50 +0800 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Please tell me how to apply the updates Message-ID: <1076587549.7596.2.camel@KungFuBuilder> Hi! Please tell me how to use yum or anything else to apply all the current updates for WBEL3. Thanks. X.H. Beijing From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Thu Feb 12 12:16:07 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:16:07 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Please tell me how to apply the updates In-Reply-To: <1076587549.7596.2.camel@KungFuBuilder> References: <1076587549.7596.2.camel@KungFuBuilder> Message-ID: <20040212121607.GB6481@pluto.pslib.cz> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 08:05:50PM +0800, Xu Hao wrote: > Hi! > > Please tell me how to use yum or anything else to apply all the current > updates for WBEL3. Install yum package and run yum: $ rpm -Uvh http://whiteboxlinux.org/pub/3.0/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/yum-2.0.4-2.WB1.noarch.rpm $ yum update The updated packages are taken from repositories defined in /etc/yum.conf. -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Thu Feb 12 12:22:03 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:22:03 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] All noarch updates for WBEL are missing Message-ID: <20040212122203.GC6481@pluto.pslib.cz> Hi, there are SRPMS packages in update directory but no noarch packages: This source packages are published: http://whiteboxlinux.org/pub/3.0/en/updates/SRPMS/ hwdata-0.101.1-1.src.rpm redhat-config-kickstart-2.3.20-1.src.rpm redhat-config-network-1.2.59-1.src.rpm redhat-config-packages-1.2.9-1.src.rpm redhat-config-xfree86-0.7.7-1.src.rpm These packages are missing in noarch directory: hwdata-0.101.1-1.noarch.rpm redhat-config-kickstart-2.3.20-1.noarch.rpm redhat-config-network-tui-1.2.59-1.noarch.rpm redhat-config-network-1.2.59-1.noarch.rpm redhat-config-packages-1.2.9-1.noarch.rpm redhat-config-xfree86-0.7.7-1.noarch.rpm If anybody is interested, all mentioned packages are already in my own repository: ftp://ftp.vslib.cz/pub/local/milan.kerslager/RHEL-3/testing.updates/ -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From rhfreeman@micron.com Thu Feb 12 12:28:15 2004 From: rhfreeman@micron.com (rhfreeman@micron.com) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 05:28:15 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-devel] /usr/share/sendmail-cf missing? Message-ID: <3C4EAFA153EA6E4BB7EEAF37B5BE524B0324A2@ntxgbrmbx01.micron.com> Hi folks, Just installed my first WB Linux box. Works great, I'm pleased to say. One problem with sendmail though! If you look in this file: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 857 Dec 13 05:15 /etc/mail/Makefile You'll see this: %.cf: %.mc @if test -f /usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4; then \ umask 022; \ mv -f $@ $@.bak; \ m4 $< > $@; \ fi On my system at least, /usr/share/sendmail-cf does not exist. I've grabbed it from a RH72 box in the meantime! :-) Is this missing on everyone's system, or is just me? Does anyone know what package it is part of? Cheers, Rich From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Thu Feb 12 13:32:49 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:32:49 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] /usr/share/sendmail-cf missing? In-Reply-To: <3C4EAFA153EA6E4BB7EEAF37B5BE524B0324A2@ntxgbrmbx01.micron.com> References: <3C4EAFA153EA6E4BB7EEAF37B5BE524B0324A2@ntxgbrmbx01.micron.com> Message-ID: <20040212133248.GA9820@pluto.pslib.cz> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:28:15AM -0700, rhfreeman@micron.com wrote: > Hi folks, > > Just installed my first WB Linux box. Works great, I'm pleased to say. > > One problem with sendmail though! > > If you look in this file: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 857 Dec 13 05:15 > /etc/mail/Makefile > > You'll see this: > > %.cf: %.mc > @if test -f /usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4; then \ > umask 022; \ > mv -f $@ $@.bak; \ > m4 $< > $@; \ > fi You need 'sendmail-cf' and 'm4' package to use this code. -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From tarjeik@chemcon.no Thu Feb 12 14:04:34 2004 From: tarjeik@chemcon.no (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: 12 Feb 2004 15:04:34 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] update1 is comming into the mirrors?? In-Reply-To: <1076525895.402a7b479618a@webmail.sld.cu> References: <1076098708.4023f69504549@webmail.sld.cu> <1076102832.3369.12.camel@wountie.library.beau.org> <20040211170345.GD26488@pluto.pslib.cz> <1398.207.192.215.62.1076520946.squirrel@webmail.kcosc.com> <1076525895.402a7b479618a@webmail.sld.cu> Message-ID: <1076594674.26270.74.camel@cc-intern01> On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 19:58, Roger Pe馻 Escobio wrote: > Mensaje citado por Joe Brouhard : > > > is this a WBEL bug or an Redhat bug ? > IIRC, this was discussed on the Fedora-test list and is presumably a RH bug. Try searching RedHat/Fedora's bugzilla. -- Tarjei From jmorris@beau.org Thu Feb 12 17:38:58 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:38:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] arpwatch is missing in WBEL updates (tcpdump source) In-Reply-To: <20040212115502.GA6481@pluto.pslib.cz> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Milan Kerslager wrote: > arpwatch-2.1a11-7.E3.1.i386.rpm is not in updates (this package is coming > from tcpdump package). My bad. Fixed. Also fixed is httpd, which I forgot to do trademark removal on when issuing the the errata package. Someone dropped me a heads up offlist but I appear to have lost their name so can't credit them. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From jmorris@beau.org Thu Feb 12 19:12:10 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:12:10 -0600 (CST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] All noarch updates for WBEL are missing In-Reply-To: <20040212122203.GC6481@pluto.pslib.cz> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Milan Kerslager wrote: > These packages are missing in noarch directory: > > hwdata-0.101.1-1.noarch.rpm > redhat-config-kickstart-2.3.20-1.noarch.rpm > redhat-config-network-tui-1.2.59-1.noarch.rpm > redhat-config-network-1.2.59-1.noarch.rpm > redhat-config-packages-1.2.9-1.noarch.rpm > redhat-config-xfree86-0.7.7-1.noarch.rpm Doh! Fixed. Really need to rework the build environment for building as a user. The .rpmmacros file I found dump everything into a simple RPMS directory among other odd things. This probably won't be the only large batch of errata to deal with. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From xh@bmi.ac.cn Fri Feb 13 09:05:12 2004 From: xh@bmi.ac.cn (Xu Hao) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:05:12 +0800 Subject: [WBEL-devel] s390 arch srpms in RHEL3 i386 srpm dir? Message-ID: <1076663111.5952.4.camel@KungFuBuilder> Hi everyone! I found that there are two srpms of s390 arch in the i386 srpm directory of ftp.redhat.com: cvs-1.11.2-10.src.rpm lftp-2.6.3-3.src.rpm Anyone know why? :) Xu Hao Beijing From xh@bmi.ac.cn Fri Feb 13 10:54:40 2004 From: xh@bmi.ac.cn (Xu Hao) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:54:40 +0800 Subject: [WBEL-devel] About the arch of RHEL3 update srpms Message-ID: <1076669680.6107.10.camel@KungFuBuilder> Look at this list of some RHEL3 update srpms : srpm file name : package name | arch comps-3AS-0.20040113.src.rpm : comps | ppc comps-3ES-0.20040113.src.rpm : comps | i386 comps-3WS-0.20040113.src.rpm : comps | i386 redhat-release-3AS-10.src.rpm : redhat-release | s390 redhat-release-3AS-11.src.rpm : redhat-release | s390x redhat-release-3AS-12.src.rpm : redhat-release | x86_64 redhat-release-3AS-7.src.rpm : redhat-release | i386 redhat-release-3AS-8.src.rpm : redhat-release | ia64 redhat-release-3AS-9.src.rpm : redhat-release | ppc redhat-release-3ES-7.src.rpm : redhat-release | i386 redhat-release-3WS-12.src.rpm : redhat-release | x86_64 redhat-release-3WS-7.src.rpm : redhat-release | i386 redhat-release-3WS-8.src.rpm : redhat-release | ia64 Sorry for stupidity, but what's the difference between i386 srpm and x86_64 srpm? Thanks. X.H. Beijing From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Fri Feb 13 13:36:39 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:36:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WBEL-devel] s390 arch srpms in RHEL3 i386 srpm dir? In-Reply-To: <1076663111.5952.4.camel@KungFuBuilder> References: <1076663111.5952.4.camel@KungFuBuilder> Message-ID: <1113.12.29.16.103.1076679399.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Xu Hao said: > Hi everyone! > > I found that there are two srpms of s390 arch in the i386 srpm > directory of ftp.redhat.com: I believe you are looking for the RHEL list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/taroon-list -- William Hooper From milan.kerslager@pslib.cz Fri Feb 13 20:25:43 2004 From: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz (Milan Kerslager) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:25:43 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] About the arch of RHEL3 update srpms In-Reply-To: <1076669680.6107.10.camel@KungFuBuilder> References: <1076669680.6107.10.camel@KungFuBuilder> Message-ID: <20040213202543.GB27783@pluto.pslib.cz> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 06:54:40PM +0800, Xu Hao wrote: > Look at this list of some RHEL3 update srpms : > > srpm file name : package name | arch > > comps-3AS-0.20040113.src.rpm : comps | ppc > comps-3ES-0.20040113.src.rpm : comps | i386 > comps-3WS-0.20040113.src.rpm : comps | i386 > redhat-release-3AS-10.src.rpm : redhat-release | s390 > redhat-release-3AS-11.src.rpm : redhat-release | s390x > redhat-release-3AS-12.src.rpm : redhat-release | x86_64 > redhat-release-3AS-7.src.rpm : redhat-release | i386 > redhat-release-3AS-8.src.rpm : redhat-release | ia64 > redhat-release-3AS-9.src.rpm : redhat-release | ppc > redhat-release-3ES-7.src.rpm : redhat-release | i386 > redhat-release-3WS-12.src.rpm : redhat-release | x86_64 > redhat-release-3WS-7.src.rpm : redhat-release | i386 > redhat-release-3WS-8.src.rpm : redhat-release | ia64 > > Sorry for stupidity, but what's the difference between i386 srpm and > x86_64 srpm? i386 is for 32 bit CPU (Intel Pentium, AMD Athlon/Duron) x86_64 is for AMD 64 bit CPU -- Milan Kerslager E-mail: milan.kerslager@pslib.cz WWW: http://www.pslib.cz/~kerslage/ From lj@2u2.nu Fri Feb 20 19:19:32 2004 From: lj@2u2.nu (L. Jankok) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:19:32 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] error building the comps src rpm Message-ID: <20040220191932.GA5139@localhost.local.net> Hi, I was able to build almost the complete set of update src rpms released by redhat for rhel. Only the comps file give me an error and the kernel src rpm will build the source, doc, kernel boot and modules rpm but not the kernel itself. rpmbuild --rebuild kernelxx.src.rpm doesn't build the kernel itself but all the other rpms around it.. do I have to give --target=i686 ? rpmbuild --rebuild compsxx.src.rpm will exit almost immediately complaining abou a non existing directory. I hope you guys can shed some light on this. regards, Lucio -- :wq! From lj@2u2.nu Sun Feb 22 07:50:19 2004 From: lj@2u2.nu (L. Jankok) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:50:19 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Re: error building the comps src rpm In-Reply-To: <20040220191932.GA5139@localhost.local.net> References: <20040220191932.GA5139@localhost.local.net> Message-ID: <20040222075019.GA2326@localhost.local.net> To answer my own questions 01) --target=i686 is indeed needed.. the kernel, openssl, glib.. can be optimized like that with the redhat distro 02) rpm --bb --quiet --target=i386 --define "basedir ${BASE}/mnt/cdrom/RedHat/base" \ --define "compsversion 3" /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/comps-redhat.spec greetings, Lucio On 0, "L. Jankok" wrote: :Hi, : :I was able to build almost the complete set of update src rpms released :by redhat for rhel. Only the comps file give me an error and the kernel :src rpm will build the source, doc, kernel boot and modules rpm but not :the kernel itself. :rpmbuild --rebuild kernelxx.src.rpm doesn't build the kernel itself but all :the other rpms around it.. do I have to give --target=i686 ? :rpmbuild --rebuild compsxx.src.rpm will exit almost immediately complaining :abou a non existing directory. :I hope you guys can shed some light on this. : :regards, : :Lucio : -- :wq! From ecm103@york.ac.uk Mon Feb 23 20:23:13 2004 From: ecm103@york.ac.uk (Ewan Mac Mahon) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:23:13 +0000 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Trademark bug? Apache test page Message-ID: <20040223202313.GA5287@york.ac.uk> Hi all, but mainly beau.org people, I've just started setting up Apache on WBEL and I'm not sure that the test page has been Whitebox-ified enough. The usual "Powered by Redhat" logo has been replaced with a Whitebox one, but the html hasn't been changed to point at it, which gives a broken image link. More seriously the text of the page is still headed "Red Hat Enterprise Linux Test Page", says "Powered by RedHat Linux" (in the alt text for the broken image) and has links to redhat.com Worth an update? Ewan From louisb@ameritech.net Tue Feb 24 22:40:47 2004 From: louisb@ameritech.net (Louis) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:40:47 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Building Red Hat from SRC Rpms Message-ID: <200402242236.i1OMaCi24695@odin.library.beau.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03BA_01C3FAFD.595B2040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I realize that the WhiteBoxLinux exist. But I would like to try and build the AS release of Red Hat Enterprise. I've performed the "rpmbuild" on a number of the source rpms and I'm receiving a number of warnings related struct's and the like. How did you over come these issues? Is there any way to list the content of a src rpm and a standard rpm? I've been able to over any errors so far but I have not built the kernel yet. What should I be concerned with as I move forward? Any input you may have will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Louis ------=_NextPart_000_03BA_01C3FAFD.595B2040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Building Red Hat from SRC Rpms

I = realize that the WhiteBoxLinux exist.  = But I would like to try and build = the AS release of Red Hat Enterprise.  I've performed the = "rpmbuild" on a number of the source rpms and I'm receiving a = number of warnings related struct's and the like. 

How did = you over come these issues? 

Is there = any way to list the content of a src rpm and a standard rpm? =

I've = been able to over any errors so far but I = have not built the kernel yet.  What should I be concerned with as = I move forward? 

Any = input you may have will be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks

Louis

------=_NextPart_000_03BA_01C3FAFD.595B2040-- From lj@2u2.nu Wed Feb 25 07:04:24 2004 From: lj@2u2.nu (L. Jankok) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:04:24 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-devel] Re: Building Red Hat from SRC Rpms In-Reply-To: <200402242236.i1OMaCi24695@odin.library.beau.org> References: <200402242236.i1OMaCi24695@odin.library.beau.org> Message-ID: <20040225070424.GA3263@localhost.local.net> Louis, On the rhel cd's you will not find all the dev packages you need to build the distribution. Luckily you can build all the missing dev packages yourself by rebuilding the appropriate src rpms. Once you have rebuilded all the missing dev rpms you will be able to rebuild the whole src rpm tree. Kudos for the folks at Red Hat for their commitment to the opensource community.. At SUSE they could take that as an example.. Probably you would like to tweak the comps.xl because otherwise you would have a bloathed install. I wonder when Red Hat will begin using something better than RPM.. because it sucks. greetings, Lucio On 0, Louis wrote: : : I realize that the WhiteBoxLinux exist. But I would like to try and : build the AS release of Red Hat Enterprise. I've performed the : "rpmbuild" on a number of the source rpms and I'm receiving a number : of warnings related struct's and the like. : : How did you over come these issues? : : Is there any way to list the content of a src rpm and a standard rpm? : : I've been able to over any errors so far but I have not built the : kernel yet. What should I be concerned with as I move forward? : : Any input you may have will be greatly appreciated. : : Thanks : : Louis -- :wq! From xh@bmi.ac.cn Fri Feb 27 01:34:31 2004 From: xh@bmi.ac.cn (Xu Hao) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:34:31 +0800 Subject: [WBEL-devel] rebuild at srpm error Message-ID: <1077845671.28784.5.camel@KungFuBuilder> Hi everyone! I was trying to rebuild at-3.1.8-46.src.rpm of RHEL3 on my WBEL3 box, but I got error messages listed below. Later I tried to rebuild at-3.1.8-50.src.rpm of Fedora, but got exactly the same error messages. lex.yy.c:1340: warning: `yyunput' defined but not used Failed 1/1 test scripts, 0.00% okay. 16/3656 subtests failed, 99.56% okay. make: *** [test] Error 29 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.65702 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.65702 (%build) Anyone know why? Thanks Xu Hao From david.e.cox@nasa.gov Fri Feb 27 17:50:43 2004 From: david.e.cox@nasa.gov (David Cox) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:50:43 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-devel] rebuild at srpm error In-Reply-To: <1077845671.28784.5.camel@KungFuBuilder> References: <1077845671.28784.5.camel@KungFuBuilder> Message-ID: <1077904242.10592.7.camel@kvass.larc.nasa.gov> Your trying to build it too late in the month, it will build fine next Monday. Really it will, I'm not making this up. See RedHat's bugzilla for details: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=108701 dave On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 20:34, Xu Hao wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I was trying to rebuild at-3.1.8-46.src.rpm of RHEL3 on my WBEL3 box, > but I got error messages listed below. Later I tried to rebuild > at-3.1.8-50.src.rpm of Fedora, but got exactly the same error messages. > > lex.yy.c:1340: warning: `yyunput' defined but not used > Failed 1/1 test scripts, 0.00% okay. 16/3656 subtests failed, 99.56% > okay. > make: *** [test] Error 29 > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.65702 (%build) > > RPM build errors: > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.65702 (%build) > > Anyone know why? > > Thanks > > Xu Hao > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-devel mailing list > Whitebox-devel@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-devel -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- David E. Cox david.e.cox@nasa.gov (757) 864-6658 -------------------------------------------------------------------