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One of my suspicions, backed = up by a few=20 posts, is a DNS issue and I think this is now even more likely = - I've=20 opened the site to the outside world and from home via broadband=20 everything appears very fast - as expected no=20 less!

It occurs to me that in-house = name=20 resolution is performed by a pain-in-the-a** Windows 2000 box running = ISA server=20 which needs to be there to keep the suppliers of a bespoke app happy = (ie: if we=20 remove ISA server from the equation we lose support on = the app=20 running on the server even though the supplier's reasons for justifying = the ISA=20 server running in the first place are a bit lame - I think it was just = part of=20 the default install for the server and they're too lazy to turn it=20 off!).

I've actually had so much = hassle with the=20 ISA server that I've moved the Linux system and my desktop PC to = the=20 'North' of the ISA server firewall as we still have a firewall in = the=20 broadband router, and it's a NAT router anyway. I also couldn't see the = point of=20 having all incoming traffic for the Linux box passing through the Win2K = server=20 too.

Anyway, I=20 digress...

My question of the moment is = regarding the=20 ISA server's DNS service - any tips on making it more friendly to = clients - I=20 seem to recall that there can be issues if the client requesting a = lookup is not=20 actually a Windows desktop system authenticated to the server and/or its = domain.

I'll have a read up via Google = but any=20 short cuts to a solution would be=20 appreciated.

Thanks

Nigel=20 Kendrick

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4646C.8753ACF0-- From jmorris@beau.org Wed Jul 7 22:34:02 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:34:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] WB kernel upgrade! In-Reply-To: <0407071089.AA1089235979@ws3.cimex.com.cu> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu wrote: > I want to install WBEL in a compaq proliant ml350 ,so, compaq recomends that: > HP highly recommends the installation of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 Update 1 > (2.4.21-9.EL kernel) or later for ProLiant servers running Red Hat Enterprise > Linux 3. Additional information regarding Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and kernel > updates is available at the following Red Hat website: > http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-017.html Download and install from the Respin1 set and you will get a kernel newer than 2.4.21-9.EL, you should get 2.4.21-15.EL. > by default WB has: > > kernel-2.4.21-4.EL > > and the update's files: > > kernel-2.4.21-15.EL.i386.rpm > my question is? > > 1. Does anybody knows a step by step kernel upgrade guide? Unless you need a precise version (to match up with closed source drivers for instance) just run up2date and get the latest one, especially since a fairly nasty remotely exploitable bug was fixed in the last one. > 2. Note that there is not any update file (in the mirros) for > kernel-2.4.21-4.EL That version is not in the updates dir because it was the original shipped version. It is available down the 3.0/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS directory on all of the mirrors. All of the old errata kernels are in 3.0/en/obsolete-updates but all mirror sites do not carry it so some looking around will be required. Note to all, no promises as to how long every single errata will remain down that obsolete-updates directory since it is getting alarmingly large (1,900MB) and has only been stacking up packages for about six months. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From ekg@tricity.wsu.edu Wed Jul 7 23:31:52 2004 From: ekg@tricity.wsu.edu (Ed) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:31:52 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: RHEL3 / WhiteBox RPMs In-Reply-To: <20040707190450.6b769456.green@r8.dion.ne.jp> References: <20040707190450.6b769456.green@r8.dion.ne.jp> Message-ID: <40EC79D8.4080106@tricity.wsu.edu> Green wrote: > Hello, > > The WBEL formal FAQ page http://whiteboxlinux.org/faq.html tells how to add > a third-party repository like: > ATrpms, JPackage Dag Wieers, Apt RPM repository and FreshRPMS. For repositories supporting yum, change the yum config to point to that repository. Then you can install packages using yum. For repositories supporting apt, they ususally include a copy of apt and set-up instructions. Then apt-get update; apt-get install XXXX. > > So, this would help. Please try. > > Green. > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From danieljs@knology.net Wed Jul 7 23:44:27 2004 From: danieljs@knology.net (Daniel J. Summers) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:44:27 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Wireless Ethernet Woes Message-ID: <40EC7CCB.4000706@knology.net> Good evening (or other time-appropriate greeting, as applicable)... Yesterday, I acquired a wireless network card. It's been great, because I needed to move this computer out of our living room and into another room. Anyway, Linux didn't detect it right away (hey, can't blame a guy for trying), so I booted to WXP (which recognized it and fired it up right away). All the documentation talked about was Windows, but I thought I'd take a look at their web site. The card is a Blitzz PCI NetWave Wireless, and the vendor's web site is http://www.iblitzz.com . I went there, and lo and behold, they have Linux drivers available for download. I can choose between RH 7.3 and RH 8.0, so I chose the latter. When I tried to install, it told me that the install had to be run under Red Hat 8. The ./install provided was an executable program (versus a shell script), so I did a little more digging. There were a series of directories included in the install with .o files. I located the one for an Athlon (which is what I have), and manually copied it to /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless directory. Following the procedure in the README (which identified the brand as ADMData), I rebooted. Kudzu found my new hardware, but wasn't able to start it during boot. When I tried to modify the settings through the GUI configuration tool, this is what I got... 8<-------- Error --------->8 Command failed: /sbin/modprobe 8211 Output: /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol alloc_skb_R37701013 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_register_driver_Racd7be09 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol __kfree_skb_R9f577077 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol skb_over_panic_R96dfe3a9 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_read_config_byte_R90c21225 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol register_netdev_R974afbe7 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol netif_rx_R61b6a4ab /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol eth_type_trans_R8099d0b4 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_enable_device_Ra2411ea7 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol add_timer_Ra19eacf8 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol unregister_netdev_R5766c6b2 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_unregister_driver_R513ca96c /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol del_timer_Rfc62f16d /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_release_regions_Rf11476ea /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol alloc_etherdev_Ra255d246 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_set_master_R00ba60ca /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol softnet_data_R21a8786f /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_request_regions_R936e5016 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: unresolved symbol pci_find_device_Rf15f9f37 /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license and it has unresolved symbols. The module may be trying to access GPLONLY symbols but the problem is more likely to be a coding or user error. Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they can help you. /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: insmod 8211 failed Warning: kernel-module version mismatch /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o was compiled for kernel version 2.4.18-14 while this kernel is version 2.4.21-15.0.2.EL 8<------------------- Okay, now apart from the obvious (yes, it says the vendor is the only one who can help me, and it says it's compiled for the wrong kernel version), what else could I try? I can't believe this card works so swimmingly in Windows, but not at all under Linux. Is there a way of faking these .o files out? I'm still pretty new at Linux, but I'm a fast learner. I have a feeling that right now I know just enough to be dangerous. :) Thanks... Daniel J. Summers E-mail - danieljs@knology.net Web Site (Personal) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel Web Site (Sunday School) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/sundayschool My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html From allen@up-link.net Thu Jul 8 00:05:40 2004 From: allen@up-link.net (Allen) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:05:40 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Whitebox-users digest, Vol 1 #302 - 12 msgs References: <20040707224500.31393.80075.Mailman@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <00a201c46476$ec856460$94fcfea9@www.upplink.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: > 2. Can't telnet into box with user account, problems changing password (Michael Salsman) > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:39:52 -0500 > From: Michael Salsman > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > Subject: [WBEL-users] Can't telnet into box with user account, problems changing password > > I was attempting to telnet to a box that I have WBEL 3.0, and get a > "Login incorrect" when using a general user account that I created as > root. I can telnet in as root, since I renamed the /etc/securetty file. > > When I su to that user account, and then attempt to change the password > with the passwd command, I get the following error: > > passwd: Authentication token manipulation error > > I installed as a Server, then customized by adding a few packages. > > Any thoughts? > > Mike Why are you using telnet? It's very insecure. Everything is being passed in clear text. You should really use SSH2 and I think you would have better luck with security and authentication. AG From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Jul 8 00:23:30 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:23:30 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Wireless Ethernet Woes In-Reply-To: <40EC7CCB.4000706@knology.net> References: <40EC7CCB.4000706@knology.net> Message-ID: <1089242609.31849.7.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-eZYZEUCYr69+UdoVM4OW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the source is supplied, you can compile it for your kernel ... if it isn't, then you can't. The manufacturer has to provide the info. You might try the latest driver here: http://aluminum.sourmilk.net/adm8211/ It is an adm open source project. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 17:44, Daniel J. Summers wrote: > Good evening (or other time-appropriate greeting, as applicable)... > > Yesterday, I acquired a wireless network card. It's been great, because > I needed to move this computer out of our living room and into another > room. Anyway, Linux didn't detect it right away (hey, can't blame a guy > for trying), so I booted to WXP (which recognized it and fired it up > right away). All the documentation talked about was Windows, but I > thought I'd take a look at their web site. > > The card is a Blitzz PCI NetWave Wireless, and the vendor's web site is > http://www.iblitzz.com . I went there, and lo and behold, they have > Linux drivers available for download. I can choose between RH 7.3 and > RH 8.0, so I chose the latter. When I tried to install, it told me that > the install had to be run under Red Hat 8. The ./install provided was > an executable program (versus a shell script), so I did a little more > digging. There were a series of directories included in the install > with .o files. I located the one for an Athlon (which is what I have), > and manually copied it to > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless directory. > Following the procedure in the README (which identified the brand as > ADMData), I rebooted. Kudzu found my new hardware, but wasn't able to > start it during boot. When I tried to modify the settings through the > GUI configuration tool, this is what I got... > > 8<-------- Error --------->8 > Command failed: /sbin/modprobe 8211 > > Output: > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol alloc_skb_R37701013 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_register_driver_Racd7be09 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol __kfree_skb_R9f577077 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol skb_over_panic_R96dfe3a9 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_read_config_byte_R90c21225 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol register_netdev_R974afbe7 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol netif_rx_R61b6a4ab > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol eth_type_trans_R8099d0b4 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_enable_device_Ra2411ea7 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol add_timer_Ra19eacf8 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol unregister_netdev_R5766c6b2 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_unregister_driver_R513ca96c > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol del_timer_Rfc62f16d > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_release_regions_Rf11476ea > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol alloc_etherdev_Ra255d246 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_set_master_R00ba60ca > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol softnet_data_R21a8786f > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_request_regions_R936e5016 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > unresolved symbol pci_find_device_Rf15f9f37 > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: > Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license > and it has unresolved symbols. The module may be trying to access > GPLONLY symbols but the problem is more likely to be a coding or > user error. Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they > can help you. > > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o failed > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: insmod > 8211 failed > Warning: kernel-module version mismatch > /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o was > compiled for kernel version 2.4.18-14 > while this kernel is version 2.4.21-15.0.2.EL > 8<------------------- > > Okay, now apart from the obvious (yes, it says the vendor is the only > one who can help me, and it says it's compiled for the wrong kernel > version), what else could I try? I can't believe this card works so > swimmingly in Windows, but not at all under Linux. Is there a way of > faking these .o files out? I'm still pretty new at Linux, but I'm a > fast learner. I have a feeling that right now I know just enough to be > dangerous. :) > > Thanks... > > > Daniel J. Summers > E-mail - danieljs@knology.net > Web Site (Personal) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel > Web Site (Sunday School) - > http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/sundayschool > My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users --=-eZYZEUCYr69+UdoVM4OW Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the source is supplied, you can compile it for your kernel ... if it isn't, then you can't. The manufacturer has to provide the info.

You might try the latest driver here:
http://aluminum.sourmilk.net/adm8211/

It is an adm open source project.

Johnny Hughes
HughesJR.com

On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 17:44, Daniel J. Summers wrote:

Good evening (or other time-appropriate greeting, as applicable)...

Yesterday, I acquired a wireless network card.  It's been great, because 
I needed to move this computer out of our living room and into another 
room.  Anyway, Linux didn't detect it right away (hey, can't blame a guy 
for trying), so I booted to WXP (which recognized it and fired it up 
right away).  All the documentation talked about was Windows, but I 
thought I'd take a look at their web site.

The card is a Blitzz PCI NetWave Wireless, and the vendor's web site is 
http://www.iblitzz.com .  I went there, and lo and behold, they have 
Linux drivers available for download.  I can choose between RH 7.3 and 
RH 8.0, so I chose the latter.  When I tried to install, it told me that 
the install had to be run under Red Hat 8.  The ./install provided was 
an executable program (versus a shell script), so I did a little more 
digging.  There were a series of directories included in the install 
with .o files.  I located the one for an Athlon (which is what I have), 
and manually copied it to 
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless directory.  
Following the procedure in the README (which identified the brand as 
ADMData), I rebooted.  Kudzu found my new hardware, but wasn't able to 
start it during boot.  When I tried to modify the settings through the 
GUI configuration tool, this is what I got...

8<-------- Error --------->8
Command failed: /sbin/modprobe  8211

Output:
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol alloc_skb_R37701013
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_register_driver_Racd7be09
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol __kfree_skb_R9f577077
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol skb_over_panic_R96dfe3a9
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_read_config_byte_R90c21225
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol register_netdev_R974afbe7
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol netif_rx_R61b6a4ab
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol eth_type_trans_R8099d0b4
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_enable_device_Ra2411ea7
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol add_timer_Ra19eacf8
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol unregister_netdev_R5766c6b2
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_unregister_driver_R513ca96c
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol del_timer_Rfc62f16d
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_release_regions_Rf11476ea
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol alloc_etherdev_Ra255d246
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_set_master_R00ba60ca
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol softnet_data_R21a8786f
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_request_regions_R936e5016
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: 
unresolved symbol pci_find_device_Rf15f9f37
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o:
Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license
      and it has unresolved symbols.  The module may be trying to access
      GPLONLY symbols but the problem is more likely to be a coding or
      user error.  Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they
      can help you.

/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o: insmod 
8211 failed
Warning: kernel-module version mismatch
    /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8211.o was 
compiled for kernel version 2.4.18-14
    while this kernel is version 2.4.21-15.0.2.EL
8<-------------------

Okay, now apart from the obvious (yes, it says the vendor is the only 
one who can help me, and it says it's compiled for the wrong kernel 
version), what else could I try?  I can't believe this card works so 
swimmingly in Windows, but not at all under Linux.  Is there a way of 
faking these .o files out?  I'm still pretty new at Linux, but I'm a 
fast learner.  I have a feeling that right now I know just enough to be 
dangerous.  :)

Thanks...


Daniel J. Summers
E-mail - danieljs@knology.net
Web Site (Personal) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel
Web Site (Sunday School) - 
http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/sundayschool
My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html

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--=-eZYZEUCYr69+UdoVM4OW-- From creeves@kua.net Thu Jul 8 00:34:31 2004 From: creeves@kua.net (Christian Reeves) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:34:31 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.8p1 wants older openssl Message-ID: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> Anyone have any luck installing OpenSSH_3.8p1? I have it running on many RedHat 8.0 servers but this is the first WBEL box I've tried to upgrade it on. I compiled those the "working" installs from src RPMs with minimal issues. Yum installs these relevant packages when I build the machine (this is a bare bones install, installing needed packages with yum): openssh-3.6.1p2-33.30.1 openssh-clients-3.6.1p2-33.30.1 openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1 openssl-0.9.7a-33.4 openssl-devel-0.9.7a-33.4 Packages I want to install: openssh-3.8p1-1.rpm openssh-clients-3.8p1-1.rpm openssh-server-3.8p1-1.rpm Sample output from attempted install: (root@whitebox) 47 /usr/local/src/.dist/sshd # d total 792 drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Jul 7 19:00 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 7 19:00 ../ -rw------- 1 root root 240817 Jul 7 18:33 openssh-3.8p1-1.rpm -rw------- 1 root root 334155 Jul 7 18:33 openssh-clients-3.8p1-1.rpm -rw------- 1 root root 210083 Jul 7 18:33 openssh-server-3.8p1-1.rpm (root@whitebox) 48 /usr/local/src/.dist/sshd # rpm -Uvh openssh-* error: Failed dependencies: libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-3.8p1-1 libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-clients-3.8p1-1 libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-server-3.8p1-1 Seems it wants an older version of openssl because when I research libcrypto.so.2 I get pointed to openssl-0.9.6b-35.8.1.i386.rpm! If I try to remove the current openssl to put on the version that the newer openssh wants...whao! Lotsa things would like it to stay put! locked and repeating...Thoughts? Christian From kbohling@birddog.com Thu Jul 8 00:49:34 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:49:34 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.8p1 wants older openssl In-Reply-To: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> References: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <20040707234933.GA1187@hawk.birddog.com> On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:34:31PM -0400, Christian Reeves wrote: > > Anyone have any luck installing OpenSSH_3.8p1? I have it running on many > RedHat 8.0 servers but this is the first WBEL box I've tried to upgrade it > on. > I compiled those the "working" installs from src RPMs with minimal issues. If I read this right, you compiled the OpenSSH on a RH8.0 machine right? > (root@whitebox) 48 /usr/local/src/.dist/sshd # rpm -Uvh openssh-* > error: Failed dependencies: > libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-3.8p1-1 > libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-clients-3.8p1-1 > libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-server-3.8p1-1 > > Seems it wants an older version of openssl because when I research > libcrypto.so.2 I get pointed to openssl-0.9.6b-35.8.1.i386.rpm! > If I try to remove the current openssl to put on the version that the newer > openssh wants...whao! Lotsa things would like it to stay put! Here you are attempting to install RPM's that are related built against the libraries installed on RH8.0. If you are really insistant on doing this, put everything on a single RPM line: rpm -Fhv --oldpackage openssh-*.rpm openssl-*.rpm I think that should do the trick, but I'd personally not recommend that. You could also remove all of the OpenSSH packages first. I don't understand why you don't build the RPM's on this machine so they link against the correct libraries. Then they'd be built against the correct libraries (this is why DAG and FreshRPM's have different versions of each package per distro). They'd just install then. You appear to be going out of your way not to use the version of SSH distributed with your distribution? Why? Is there something compelling you need from a newer version of SSH? Security fixes are backported to the older versions of SSH by RHEL, and they get rebuilt by the WBEL people. You'll maintain compatibility binary compatibility. I don't see why on earth you are insisting on building and installing your own SSH when a perfectly fine pre-packaged one exists. You're missing out on the main benefits of WBEL if you rebuilt and repackage your own stuff. If you want to stay bleeding edge, and like to rebuild from source, I'm thinking that Fedora Core or Gentoo are for you. However, it's your machine manage how you like. Thanks, Kirby > > > locked and repeating...Thoughts? > Christian > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Jul 8 01:00:13 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:00:13 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.8p1 wants older openssl In-Reply-To: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> References: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <1089244812.966.17.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-3ycGa4Z92p6MiXeWJ8z3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are trying to upgrade because of security and you want a higher version number, please read this concerning BACKPORTING: https://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_backport.html I would personally recommend that you stay with the most current RHEL version ... they fix all the security issues and bugs ;) Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 18:34, Christian Reeves wrote: > Anyone have any luck installing OpenSSH_3.8p1? I have it running on many > RedHat 8.0 servers but this is the first WBEL box I've tried to upgrade it > on. > I compiled those the "working" installs from src RPMs with minimal issues. > > Yum installs these relevant packages when I build the machine (this is a > bare bones install, installing needed packages with yum): > openssh-3.6.1p2-33.30.1 > openssh-clients-3.6.1p2-33.30.1 > openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1 > > openssl-0.9.7a-33.4 > openssl-devel-0.9.7a-33.4 > > > Packages I want to install: > openssh-3.8p1-1.rpm > openssh-clients-3.8p1-1.rpm > openssh-server-3.8p1-1.rpm > > > Sample output from attempted install: > (root@whitebox) 47 /usr/local/src/.dist/sshd # d > total 792 > drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Jul 7 19:00 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 7 19:00 ../ > -rw------- 1 root root 240817 Jul 7 18:33 openssh-3.8p1-1.rpm > -rw------- 1 root root 334155 Jul 7 18:33 > openssh-clients-3.8p1-1.rpm > -rw------- 1 root root 210083 Jul 7 18:33 > openssh-server-3.8p1-1.rpm > > (root@whitebox) 48 /usr/local/src/.dist/sshd # rpm -Uvh openssh-* > error: Failed dependencies: > libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-3.8p1-1 > libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-clients-3.8p1-1 > libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-server-3.8p1-1 > > Seems it wants an older version of openssl because when I research > libcrypto.so.2 I get pointed to openssl-0.9.6b-35.8.1.i386.rpm! > If I try to remove the current openssl to put on the version that the newer > openssh wants...whao! Lotsa things would like it to stay put! > > > locked and repeating...Thoughts? > Christian > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users --=-3ycGa4Z92p6MiXeWJ8z3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are trying to upgrade because of security and you want a higher version number, please read this concerning BACKPORTING:

https://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_backport.html

I would personally recommend that you stay with the most current RHEL version ... they fix all the security issues and bugs ;)

Johnny Hughes
HughesJR.com

On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 18:34, Christian Reeves wrote:

Anyone have any luck installing OpenSSH_3.8p1? I have it running on many
RedHat 8.0 servers but this is the first WBEL box I've tried to upgrade it
on.
I compiled those the "working" installs from src RPMs with minimal issues.

Yum installs these relevant packages when I build the machine (this is a
bare bones install, installing needed packages with yum):
openssh-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
openssh-clients-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1

openssl-0.9.7a-33.4
openssl-devel-0.9.7a-33.4


Packages I want to install:
openssh-3.8p1-1.rpm
openssh-clients-3.8p1-1.rpm
openssh-server-3.8p1-1.rpm


Sample output from attempted install:
(root@whitebox) 47 /usr/local/src/.dist/sshd # d
total 792
drwx------    2 root     root         4096 Jul  7 19:00 ./
drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Jul  7 19:00 ../
-rw-------    1 root     root       240817 Jul  7 18:33 openssh-3.8p1-1.rpm
-rw-------    1 root     root       334155 Jul  7 18:33
openssh-clients-3.8p1-1.rpm
-rw-------    1 root     root       210083 Jul  7 18:33
openssh-server-3.8p1-1.rpm

(root@whitebox) 48 /usr/local/src/.dist/sshd # rpm -Uvh openssh-*
error: Failed dependencies:
        libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-3.8p1-1
        libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-clients-3.8p1-1
        libcrypto.so.2 is needed by openssh-server-3.8p1-1

Seems it wants an older version of openssl because when I research
libcrypto.so.2 I get pointed to openssl-0.9.6b-35.8.1.i386.rpm!
If I try to remove the current openssl to put on the version that the newer
openssh wants...whao! Lotsa things would like it to stay put!


locked and repeating...Thoughts?
Christian

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--=-3ycGa4Z92p6MiXeWJ8z3-- From nats@sscrmnl.edu.ph Thu Jul 8 01:39:38 2004 From: nats@sscrmnl.edu.ph (Nats) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:39:38 +0800 Subject: [WBEL-users] Weird Squid on Whitelinux Box Message-ID: <00d801c46484$0ce28910$fc0aa8c0@LOCALNS.BASTE.NET> hi, I have setup squid (v.2.5STABLE5) for transparent proxying, the error during a session is that, squid tends to strip the domain name during connect.. Like if I entered my.domain.com/files it strip away my.domain.com and leaves /files which in turn giving me an invalid url. I am running WBEL (whitebox enterprise linux). And the most weird result is that when i run squid -v (as expected should give me squid-2.5STABLE5) but i have squid-2.5STABLE5-CVS.. hmm I have downloaded the file on the squid-cache.org... And during ./configure I have this result configure: WARNING: linux/netfilter_ipv4.h: present but cannot be compiled configure: WARNING: linux/netfilter_ipv4.h: check for missing prerequisite headers? configure: WARNING: linux/netfilter_ipv4.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## configure: WARNING: ## Report this to bug-autoconf@gnu.org. ## configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## /configure: line 10316: u_short: command not found ---------------------------------------------------- I havent experienced this on RH 7.2, RH 8.0 and RH 9.0 Thanks for the help Nats -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner which is installed at www.sscrmnl.edu.ph and believed to be clean. Report abuse from this domain at abuse@sscrmnl.edu.ph From andyr@wizzy.com Thu Jul 8 08:27:51 2004 From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:27:51 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Can't telnet into box with user account, problems changing password In-Reply-To: <40EC3568.5050008@yahoo.com> References: <40EC3568.5050008@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040708072751.GC2166@wizzy.com> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004, Michael Salsman wrote: > I was attempting to telnet to a box that I have WBEL 3.0, and get a > "Login incorrect" when using a general user account that I created as > root. I can telnet in as root, since I renamed the /etc/securetty file. > > When I su to that user account, and then attempt to change the password > with the passwd command, I get the following error: > > passwd: Authentication token manipulation error > > I installed as a Server, then customized by adding a few packages. > > Any thoughts? What is your authentication scheme ? /etc/nsswitch.conf ? Can you change other users passwords ? Is that user in /etc/passwd ? Cheers, Andy! From chris@math.uu.se Thu Jul 8 16:36:02 2004 From: chris@math.uu.se (Christian Nygaard) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [WBEL-users] Unified diff? Message-ID: How do I produce a unified diff searching only for a specific string between source and original. I want to patch my kernel-2.4.spec with hz1000. Like search for lines containing "hz1000", but there is more changes between in the specs files but I only want to diff the hz1000 stuff. # diff -u kernel-2.4-hz1000.spec kernel-2.4spec Any hints would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Chris From msalsman@yahoo.com Thu Jul 8 19:02:48 2004 From: msalsman@yahoo.com (Michael Salsman) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Can't telnet into box with user account, problems changing password Message-ID: <20040708180248.48410.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> I found an anomaly with the /etc/shadow file. The password that I had used in creating the login was in clear text. I logged in as root, did a "passwd username", entered the password when prompted, which it successfully changed. I then looked at /etc/shadow, and there was an encrypted string for my password. I was then able to telnet to the boxes as "username" and log in successfully. Thanks for the responses from everyone. Mike Salsman From danieljs@knology.net Fri Jul 9 03:28:01 2004 From: danieljs@knology.net (Daniel J. Summers) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:28:01 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Wireless Ethernet Woes In-Reply-To: <1089242609.31849.7.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <40EC7CCB.4000706@knology.net> <1089242609.31849.7.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <40EE02B1.5060203@knology.net> (Johnny - sorry about the dupe - I forgot to change the "To:" in my reply to send it to the list. You're the only one who's seeing two of these...) Johnny Hughes wrote: > If the source is supplied, you can compile it for your kernel ... if > it isn't, then you can't. The manufacturer has to provide the info. I've asked - haven't gotten a reply yet. > You might try the latest driver here: > http://aluminum.sourmilk.net/adm8211/ > > It is an adm open source project. Have you (or anyone else) used this with success under WBEL 3.0 R1? I tried to compile it (using the 2.4 Makefile) and got quite an error list. Rather than send a 1,000-line listing, I put it out on my web site. You can view it at http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/adm8211_errors.txt . It looks like some of the syntax errors are in files that are part of Linux. Is it possible I need something else from the Linux installation to be able to compile this? Also - is this a site you've used before, or did you find it via Google? (I'm just curious... :> ) Daniel J. Summers E-mail - danieljs@knology.net Web Site (Personal) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel Web Site (Sunday School) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/sundayschool My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html From lye@antlabs.com Fri Jul 9 04:03:49 2004 From: lye@antlabs.com (Leonard Ye) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:03:49 +0800 Subject: [WBEL-users] where can I find the past archive of this mail list Message-ID: <40EE0B15.20705@antlabs.com> Guys, Where can I find the past archive of this maillist, so that I can avoid certain FAQs on this list. Regards, Leonard Ye -- Leonard Ye Ant in Research & Development Advanced Network Technology Laboratories Pte Ltd Tel: +65 68586789 Fax: +65 64874567 WWW: http://www.antlabs.com From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Fri Jul 9 04:13:55 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] where can I find the past archive of this mail list In-Reply-To: <40EE0B15.20705@antlabs.com> References: <40EE0B15.20705@antlabs.com> Message-ID: <2455.192.168.0.254.1089342835.squirrel@192.168.0.254> Leonard Ye said: > Guys, > > > Where can I find the past archive of this maillist, so that I can avoid > certain FAQs on this list. [snip] > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users Follow the link at the bottom of every mail. -- William Hooper From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Fri Jul 9 07:17:42 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:17:42 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Aptize a Yum repo? In-Reply-To: <1089225430.5132.5.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> References: <40EB999C.6000407@dynacomp.net> <1089225430.5132.5.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> Message-ID: <40EE3886.5040700@dynacomp.net> Thanks a lot! repo-janitor is exactly what was I looking for! Andy Edward Rudd wrote: >Look at my post earlier on the lists where I attached a repo-janitor >configuration file for maintaining an apt/yum repository mirror of >whiteboxlinux. > >(archive link) >http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-July/002246.html > > >On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 01:35, Andy wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I have a bunch of computers behind DSL, and in order to save time I >>would like to run my own up2date server. While Yum gets the job done, >>Apt provides much better functionality. Is there an easy way to Aptize a >>Yum repository? >> >>Also, any ideas on what is the easiest way to rsync the official Yum >>repository? >> >>This might be OT, but is it possible to search whitebox mail archives? I >>didn't see anything on the whitebox site. I'm sure moderators are aware >>of sites like http://www.mail-archive.com that do this with very little >>effort. >> >>Thanks a lot! >> >>Andy >>_______________________________________________ >>Whitebox-users mailing list >>Whitebox-users@beau.org >>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >> >> From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Fri Jul 9 07:24:06 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:24:06 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] where can I find the past archive of this mail list In-Reply-To: <40EE0B15.20705@antlabs.com> References: <40EE0B15.20705@antlabs.com> Message-ID: <40EE3A06.3050809@dynacomp.net> Nice interface and searchable: http://gmane.org/find.php?list=whitebox I just asked the same question couple of days ago. Maybe this should be included in the whiteboxlinux.org's FAQ section? Andy Leonard Ye wrote: > Guys, > > Where can I find the past archive of this maillist, so that I can > avoid certain FAQs on this list. > > Regards, > Leonard Ye > From israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu Fri Jul 9 14:09:53 2004 From: israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu (israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 08:09:53 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] WB kernel upgrade! Message-ID: <0407091089.AA1089379129@ws3.cimex.com.cu> john... I done want to bother you.. but, I am still in dought wiht WB kernel upgrade in my compaq proliant ml350.. look.. I have this RPMs by default [WBEL3.0]: kernel-utils-2.4-8.37 kernel-source-2.4.21-4.EL kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.31-13 kernel-doc-2.4.21-4.EL kernel-2.4.21-4.EL So, I downloaded this updates from the mirror's: 07/05/04 06:28AM 4,547,794 kernel-BOOT-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.i386.rpm 07/05/04 06:26AM 1,840,770 kernel-doc-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.i386.rpm 07/05/04 06:25AM 41,695,396 kernel-source-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.i386.rpm 05/20/04 01:15AM 321,722 kernel-utils-2.4-8.37.3.i386.rpm first, remember compaq recomendation: compaq recomends that: > HP highly recommends the installation of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 Update 1 > (2.4.21-9.EL kernel) or later for ProLiant servers running Red Hat Enterprise > Linux 3. Additional information regarding Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and kernel so, I need this kernel --> kernel-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL question 1? can you tell me the steps to upgrade my kernel? --> I mean rpm- Uvh kernel-BOOT-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.i386.rpm ... and so on... --> I dont know if I have to change the link in /boot/system.map... or grub.conf.. question2? Where can I find resping1 sets of RPMs --> I've searched in google but no results.. thanks for your time... regards.. Israel Garcia CIMEX Villa Clara -----Mensaje original----- De: John Morris Enviado el: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:34 PM Para: SV-Israel Garcia CC: whitebox-users@beau.org Asunto: Re: [WBEL-users] WB kernel upgrade! On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu wrote: > I want to install WBEL in a compaq proliant ml350 ,so, compaq recomends that: > HP highly recommends the installation of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 Update 1 > (2.4.21-9.EL kernel) or later for ProLiant servers running Red Hat Enterprise > Linux 3. Additional information regarding Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and kernel > updates is available at the following Red Hat website: > http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-017.html Download and install from the Respin1 set and you will get a kernel newer than 2.4.21-9.EL, you should get 2.4.21-15.EL. > by default WB has: > > kernel-2.4.21-4.EL > > and the update's files: > > kernel-2.4.21-15.EL.i386.rpm > my question is? > > 1. Does anybody knows a step by step kernel upgrade guide? Unless you need a precise version (to match up with closed source drivers for instance) just run up2date and get the latest one, especially since a fairly nasty remotely exploitable bug was fixed in the last one. > 2. Note that there is not any update file (in the mirros) for > kernel-2.4.21-4.EL That version is not in the updates dir because it was the original shipped version. It is available down the 3.0/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS directory on all of the mirrors. All of the old errata kernels are in 3.0/en/obsolete-updates but all mirror sites do not carry it so some looking around will be required. Note to all, no promises as to how long every single errata will remain down that obsolete-updates directory since it is getting alarmingly large (1,900MB) and has only been stacking up packages for about six months. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From jamesk@ifm-services.com Fri Jul 9 15:51:31 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 08:51:31 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] WB kernel upgrade! In-Reply-To: <0407091089.AA1089379129@ws3.cimex.com.cu> References: <0407091089.AA1089379129@ws3.cimex.com.cu> Message-ID: <40EEB0F3.6050905@ifm-services.com> Why don't you run up2date and let it do the hard work? Put the RPMs you downloaded into /var/spool/up2date first so they don't need to be downloaded again. Just wondering out loud. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From shackmaster@nerdshack.com Fri Jul 9 16:19:52 2004 From: shackmaster@nerdshack.com (Shackmaster) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:19:52 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Rate Limiting Message-ID: <40EEB798.4090007@nerdshack.com> Looking for suggestions here... I have a mail server setup, that has been running on WBEL rock steady for about a month now. The problem is that as use has grown, it has begun to periodically spike and fill the T1 pipe that it sits on. We plan to move the server onto an OC3 Sept 1st, but would like to rate limit the traffic in the meantime. Does anyone have a suggestion? Ideally I would like to rate limit SMTP (ports 25 & 3535) seperately from POP (110 & 995). -- Ladar http://www.nerdshack.com From gamito@netual.pt Fri Jul 9 16:32:59 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (Mario Gamito) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:32:59 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Rate Limiting In-Reply-To: <40EEB798.4090007@nerdshack.com> References: <40EEB798.4090007@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <1089387159.2298.12.camel@zooropa.netual.pt> Hi, Exactly the same problem here too. A mail server with about a month, and just 1 hour ago the server reached the point of not responding at all. Even on the console. I have to cold reboot it. The statistics shows nothing special at that time. What do you have ? I have qmail/vpopmail/spamassassin/qmail-scanner Warm Regards, M�rio Gamito On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 16:19, Shackmaster wrote: > Looking for suggestions here... > > I have a mail server setup, that has been running on WBEL rock steady > for about a month now. The problem is that as use has grown, it has > begun to periodically spike and fill the T1 pipe that it sits on. We > plan to move the server onto an OC3 Sept 1st, but would like to rate > limit the traffic in the meantime. > > Does anyone have a suggestion? Ideally I would like to rate limit SMTP > (ports 25 & 3535) seperately from POP (110 & 995). > > > -- Ladar > > > > > > http://www.nerdshack.com > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From kbohling@birddog.com Fri Jul 9 16:55:28 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:55:28 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Rate Limiting In-Reply-To: <40EEB798.4090007@nerdshack.com> References: <40EEB798.4090007@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <20040709155525.GA14365@hawk.birddog.com> On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 10:19:52AM -0500, Shackmaster wrote: > Looking for suggestions here... > > I have a mail server setup, that has been running on WBEL rock steady > for about a month now. The problem is that as use has grown, it has > begun to periodically spike and fill the T1 pipe that it sits on. We > plan to move the server onto an OC3 Sept 1st, but would like to rate > limit the traffic in the meantime. > > Does anyone have a suggestion? Ideally I would like to rate limit SMTP > (ports 25 & 3535) seperately from POP (110 & 995). > Well, I know that sendmail has rate limits dealing with load on the machine built into it. If you want to separately deal with those two, try looking at the LARTC lists and webpages. Look here: http://lartc.org/ You can easily shape outbound (responses), in-bound (requests) is quite a bit harder to shape on the machine, but you can throttle it at the gateway (if I remember the description correctly, you throttle it when it is going out the router's interface that faces your network). Either way, you can easily throttle the outgoing bandwidth. However, until you know exactly what bits and bytes are being sent, I'd be cautious until I found out exactly what was going over the line. I've done the LARTC stuff before, the guy is generally pretty helpful when I was actively reading the lists. The cookbook section is pretty handy in the HOWTO. It's pretty hands on examples. http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.cookbook.html Thanks, Kirby > > -- Ladar > > > > > > http://www.nerdshack.com > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From shackmaster@nerdshack.com Fri Jul 9 17:18:38 2004 From: shackmaster@nerdshack.com (Shackmaster) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:18:38 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Rate Limiting] Message-ID: <40EEC55E.9090405@nerdshack.com> We use postfix/qpopper/amavis (clamd & spmassain) and process about 10k messages a day. With a CPU average of 10%. (P4 1.5 + 768) Does postfix support rate limiting? I don't remember reading anything about it, but I could be wrong. -- Ladar http://www.nerdshack.com Mario Gamito wrote: >Hi, > >Exactly the same problem here too. >A mail server with about a month, and just 1 hour ago the server reached >the point of not responding at all. Even on the console. >I have to cold reboot it. >The statistics shows nothing special at that time. > >What do you have ? >I have qmail/vpopmail/spamassassin/qmail-scanner > >Warm Regards, >M�rio Gamito > >On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 16:19, Shackmaster wrote: > > >>Looking for suggestions here... >> >>I have a mail server setup, that has been running on WBEL rock steady >>for about a month now. The problem is that as use has grown, it has >>begun to periodically spike and fill the T1 pipe that it sits on. We >>plan to move the server onto an OC3 Sept 1st, but would like to rate >>limit the traffic in the meantime. >> >>Does anyone have a suggestion? Ideally I would like to rate limit SMTP >>(ports 25 & 3535) seperately from POP (110 & 995). >> >> >>-- Ladar >> >> >> >> >> >>http://www.nerdshack.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Whitebox-users mailing list >>Whitebox-users@beau.org >>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >> >> > > > > > From hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com Fri Jul 9 18:02:21 2004 From: hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:02:21 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Rate Limiting] In-Reply-To: <40EEC55E.9090405@nerdshack.com> References: <40EEC55E.9090405@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <40EECF9D.4070609@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> http://www.postfix.org/rate.html courtesy of google..do not know if this will help or not Shackmaster wrote: > We use postfix/qpopper/amavis (clamd & spmassain) and process about 10k > > messages a day. With a CPU average of 10%. (P4 1.5 + 768) > > Does postfix support rate limiting? I don't remember reading anything > about it, but I could be wrong. > > -- Ladar > > > > http://www.nerdshack.com > > Mario Gamito wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Exactly the same problem here too. >> A mail server with about a month, and just 1 hour ago the server reached >> the point of not responding at all. Even on the console. I have to >> cold reboot it. >> The statistics shows nothing special at that time. >> >> What do you have ? >> I have qmail/vpopmail/spamassassin/qmail-scanner >> >> Warm Regards, >> M�rio Gamito >> >> On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 16:19, Shackmaster wrote: >> >> >>> Looking for suggestions here... >>> >>> I have a mail server setup, that has been running on WBEL rock steady >>> for about a month now. The problem is that as use has grown, it has >>> begun to periodically spike and fill the T1 pipe that it sits on. We >>> plan to move the server onto an OC3 Sept 1st, but would like to rate >>> limit the traffic in the meantime. >>> >>> Does anyone have a suggestion? Ideally I would like to rate limit >>> SMTP (ports 25 & 3535) seperately from POP (110 & 995). >>> >>> >>> -- Ladar >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.nerdshack.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Whitebox-users mailing list >>> Whitebox-users@beau.org >>> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" From danieljs@knology.net Sat Jul 10 04:46:49 2004 From: danieljs@knology.net (Daniel J. Summers) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:46:49 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Wireless Ethernet Woes Message-ID: <40EF66A9.6070405@knology.net> I haven't seen this message hit the list, so I'm re-sending it.... My apologies if it's a dupe. (Johnny - sorry about the dupe - I forgot to change the "To:" in my reply to send it to the list. You're the only one who's seeing two of these...) Johnny Hughes wrote: > If the source is supplied, you can compile it for your kernel ... if > it isn't, then you can't. The manufacturer has to provide the info. I've asked - haven't gotten a reply yet. > You might try the latest driver here: > http://aluminum.sourmilk.net/adm8211/ > > It is an adm open source project. Have you (or anyone else) used this with success under WBEL 3.0 R1? I tried to compile it (using the 2.4 Makefile) and got quite an error list. Rather than send a 1,000-line listing, I put it out on my web site. You can view it at http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/adm8211_errors.txt . It looks like some of the syntax errors are in files that are part of Linux. Is it possible I need something else from the Linux installation to be able to compile this? Also - is this a site you've used before, or did you find it via Google? (I'm just curious... :> ) Daniel J. Summers E-mail - danieljs@knology.net Web Site (Personal) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel Web Site (Sunday School) - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/sundayschool My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html From WBEL-user02@TheMoreIKnow.info Sat Jul 10 05:31:51 2004 From: WBEL-user02@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:31:51 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] WB kernel upgrade! In-Reply-To: <0407091089.AA1089379129@ws3.cimex.com.cu> References: <0407091089.AA1089379129@ws3.cimex.com.cu> Message-ID: <40EF7137.3090405@TheMoreIKnow.info> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Israel. I thought I'd help John out by trying to answer this for him. israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu wrote: === > question 1? can you tell me the steps to upgrade my kernel? === Red Hat has a good (though a bit dated) guide at: === > --> I mean rpm- Uvh kernel-BOOT-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.i386.rpm ... === As the Red Hat doucment states, I would not recommend upgrading (rpm -Uvh) the kernel. Instead, install (rpm -ivh) the new kernel along side the old one so if something goes wrong you can still boot to the old one. The guide linked to above explains it pretty well. === > --> I dont know if I have to change the link in > /boot/system.map... or grub.conf.. === No, RPM adds the entry to the Grub menu in the /boot directory. === > question2? Where can I find resping1 sets of RPMs --> I've searched in > google but no results.. === "Respin" is just a term used to mean making new WBEL ISO images integrating all the updates published through May 31, 2004. One can get those RPMs from the subdirectories of .../3.0/en/updates on the WBEL mirrors. Those would be the respin RPMs that you are looking for. (I believe you would be most interested in the i386, i586, i686 and noarch subdirectories.) The list of mirrors is here: Good luck! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQO9xKXJBpqlEam+TEQJ9LwCfeMRx/rCiZLFh3Wcw+kC6xUixNcMAn3L+ 7sI9+mCINEiGDwg5lwVvaL2D =CwCs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Bernie Hoefer PGP e-mail is welcome! Get my 1024 bit signature key from: . "The more I know, the more I realize how much I do not understand." From WBEL-user02@TheMoreIKnow.info Sat Jul 10 05:50:22 2004 From: WBEL-user02@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:50:22 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] where can I find the past archive of this mail list In-Reply-To: <40EE0B15.20705@antlabs.com> References: <40EE0B15.20705@antlabs.com> Message-ID: <40EF758E.9020508@TheMoreIKnow.info> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Leonard Ye wrote: === > Where can I find the past archive of this maillist, so that I can > avoid certain FAQs on this list. === In addition to the gmane.org suggestion Andy gave, you could always use the "site" criteria in Google. Just type the following into Google's search line, replacing "{search term}" with whatever you are searching for. {search term} WBEL-users site:beau.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQO9z63JBpqlEam+TEQK/zQCeKV3kUkPz7mOrTxvwFWqzBqXs+3oAn0Q+ WtOPbX/EOLNSCKOcuE3gu/Fg =I3xL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Bernie Hoefer PGP e-mail is welcome! Get my 1024 bit signature key from: . "The more I know, the more I realize how much I do not understand." From WBEL-user02@TheMoreIKnow.info Sat Jul 10 06:11:01 2004 From: WBEL-user02@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:11:01 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] UPS soft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40EF7A65.70603@TheMoreIKnow.info> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jes�s Garc�a Gonz�lez wrote: ==== > What�s the �default� UPS monitoring software for WBEL, === Like Edward wrote a couple of days ago, Network UPS Tools (NUT) is a option, though it doesn't come with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 (and thus WBEL 3.0). I've never used NUT, though I ought to give it a try from what I read on its web page. I've been using APC UPS Daemon (apcupsd), since I have an APC UPS. See for more information. They have RPMs that appear to have been compiled for WBEL 3.0 in their download section. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQO96XXJBpqlEam+TEQLzQgCeKxw1PPNzhpqZYGi3WGQljhuC1cMAn2o+ Yw7QNbt25KmhRngBQSA9mgrW =Rwi2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Bernie Hoefer PGP e-mail is welcome! Get my 1024 bit signature key from: . "The more I know, the more I realize how much I do not understand." From shackmaster@nerdshack.com Sat Jul 10 21:33:57 2004 From: shackmaster@nerdshack.com (Shackmaster) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:33:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Re:Whitebox-users digest, Vol 1 #305 - 14 msgs Message-ID: <20040710203357.350119CC08D@mail.nerdshack.com> William -- Unfortunately these limits only work on the number of simultaneous connections, not on the bandwidth used. Unfortunately when Y! (or similar) gets it in their head that they want to pipeline their e-mail to our server, they fill our pipe, and render it useless to everyone else. What I need is a way to limit every TCP connect to only 10k a second, or something to that affect. Failing that, an overall bandwidth cap at the OS level would work. Failing that, we will buy a switch/router that supports rate limiting. I thought maybe someone on this list would know of a WBEL solution which allows granular bandwidth control. -- Ladar Message: 13 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:02:21 -0400 From: William Warren To: Shackmaster CC: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Rate Limiting] http://www.postfix.org/rate.html courtesy of google..do not know if this will help or not Shackmaster wrote: > We use postfix/qpopper/amavis (clamd & spmassain) and process about 10k > > messages a day. With a CPU average of 10%. (P4 1.5 + 768) > > Does postfix support rate limiting? I don't remember reading anything > about it, but I could be wrong. > > -- Ladar > > > > http://www.nerdshack.com > > Mario Gamito wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Exactly the same problem here too. >> A mail server with about a month, and just 1 hour ago the server reached >> the point of not responding at all. Even on the console. I have to >> cold reboot it. >> The statistics shows nothing special at that time. >> >> What do you have ? >> I have qmail/vpopmail/spamassassin/qmail-scanner >> >> Warm Regards, >> M�rio Gamito >> >> On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 16:19, Shackmaster wrote: >> >> >>> Looking for suggestions here... >>> >>> I have a mail server setup, that has been running on WBEL rock steady >>> for about a month now. The problem is that as use has grown, it has >>> begun to periodically spike and fill the T1 pipe that it sits on. We >>> plan to move the server onto an OC3 Sept 1st, but would like to rate >>> limit the traffic in the meantime. >>> >>> Does anyone have a suggestion? Ideally I would like to rate limit >>> SMTP (ports 25 & 3535) seperately from POP (110 & 995). >>> >>> >>> -- Ladar >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.nerdshack.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Whitebox-users mailing list >>> Whitebox-users@beau.org >>> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" --__--__-- From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Sun Jul 11 02:19:00 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted srpm in the repository Message-ID: <40F09584.9050102@dynacomp.net> Hi, Whenever I try to install rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm I get a following error: [root@localhost SRPMS.os]# rpm -i rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm error: rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 73307de6 error: rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm cannot be installed I tried to download it from different sources, is it possible that the file on the master repository is corrupted? Andy From gri0941@exchange.uta.edu Sun Jul 11 05:44:18 2004 From: gri0941@exchange.uta.edu (Ganeshram Iyer) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:44:18 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL and SWAT In-Reply-To: <40EC095B.7070901@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762457@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40EC095B.7070901@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Message-ID: <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> Hello all, I was wondering if samba-swat is installed with WBEL server install. I dont remember selecting it when performing the installation? I am a bit of a newbie with Linux so wondering what I need to do to verify SWAT install and how to run. I followed some directions that I found on configuring it using the xinetd as well the swat file and then tried to connect to SWAT using http://localhost:901 (also tried http://127.0.0.1:901 along with a few other combos, server name, DHCP address etc...) but I get the message that "unable to connect to site at port 901". I even turned off the firewall completely and also shutdown iptables in all 3,4,5 states. anybody have any links to HOWTOs or SWAT un/official manuals? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks very much in advance and also a thanks to the guys behind WBEL. Great work guys. Ganesh From kgmorse@mpcu.com Sun Jul 11 05:55:00 2004 From: kgmorse@mpcu.com (Keith Morse) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] drvnet.img Message-ID: Hopefully someone has seen this issue before. I need to use boot floppies to install whitebox on a pc that has no cd drive. It's a funky dell desktop that requires a specific drive. I'm using winimage to write the image to a floppy. The bootdisk.img works without problem. With drvnet.img winimage fails to read the image. I've tried three of the mirrors so far, all with the same behaviour "error reading image". Ideas? From eddie@omegaware.com Sun Jul 11 08:23:53 2004 From: eddie@omegaware.com (Edward Rudd) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 02:23:53 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted srpm in the repository In-Reply-To: <40F09584.9050102@dynacomp.net> References: <40F09584.9050102@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: <1089530633.2138.9.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 20:19, Andy wrote: > Hi, > > Whenever I try to install rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm I get a following > error: > > [root@localhost SRPMS.os]# rpm -i rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm > error: rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 73307de6 > error: rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm cannot be installed > try download the updated source rpm from the updates (rpm-4.2.2-0.14.WB1.src.rpm) that one checks out fine for me. $ rpm -K rpm-4.2.2-0.14.WB1.src.rpm rpm-4.2.2-0.14.WB1.src.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 md5 gpg OK it seems as if the stock RPM src rpm for WBEL is messed up from my end as well. $ rpm -K rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 MD5 GPG NOT OK MD5 is bad and the GPG is bad.. > I tried to download it from different sources, is it possible that the > file on the master repository is corrupted? > > Andy > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users -- Edward Rudd Website http://www.outoforder.cc/ From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Sun Jul 11 11:26:56 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 05:26:56 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL and SWAT In-Reply-To: <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762457@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40EC095B.7070901@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <1089541616.5230.38.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-c6D0o7dv4QI30Zrxot8p Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 23:44, Ganeshram Iyer wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering if samba-swat is installed with WBEL server install. I > dont remember selecting it when performing the installation? I am a bit > of a newbie with Linux so wondering what I need to do to verify SWAT > install and how to run. I followed some directions that I found on > configuring it using the xinetd as well the swat file and then tried to > connect to SWAT using http://localhost:901 (also tried > http://127.0.0.1:901 along with a few other combos, server name, DHCP > address etc...) but I get the message that "unable to connect to site at > port 901". I even turned off the firewall completely and also shutdown > iptables in all 3,4,5 states. anybody have any links to HOWTOs or SWAT > un/official manuals? I would really appreciate the help. > To see if samba-swat is installed do this: rpm -qa | grep -i samba If you don't see samba-swat, it is not installed. If you have yum working ... use this command to get samba-swat: yum install samba-swat Here are a couple links for swat: http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html#id2508588 http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-c6D0o7dv4QI30Zrxot8p Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 23:44, Ganeshram Iyer wrote:

Hello all,

I was wondering if samba-swat is installed with WBEL server install. I 
dont remember selecting it when performing the installation? I am a bit 
of a newbie with Linux so wondering what I need to do to verify SWAT 
install and how to run. I followed some directions that I found on 
configuring it using the xinetd as well the swat file and then tried to 
connect to SWAT using http://localhost:901 (also tried 
http://127.0.0.1:901 along with a few other combos, server name, DHCP 
address etc...) but I get the message that "unable to connect to site at 
port 901". I even turned off the firewall completely and also shutdown 
iptables in all 3,4,5 states. anybody have any links to HOWTOs or SWAT 
un/official manuals? I would really appreciate the help.

To see if samba-swat is installed do this:

rpm -qa | grep -i samba

If you don't see samba-swat, it is not installed. If you have yum working ... use this command to get samba-swat:

yum install samba-swat

Here are a couple links for swat:

http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html#id2508588

http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-c6D0o7dv4QI30Zrxot8p-- From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Sun Jul 11 11:47:30 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 05:47:30 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] drvnet.img In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089542849.5230.47.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-W23uIgJ56WObDRvqXNJn Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 23:55, Keith Morse wrote: > Hopefully someone has seen this issue before. I need to use boot floppies > to install whitebox on a pc that has no cd drive. It's a funky dell > desktop that requires a specific drive. I'm using winimage to write the > image to a floppy. The bootdisk.img works without problem. With > drvnet.img winimage fails to read the image. I've tried three of the > mirrors so far, all with the same behaviour "error reading image". > > > Ideas? There seems to be something wrong with the dosutils directory on the mirrors .... it doesn't have all the tools in it. All the tools are on the Respin1 CD-1. I used dosutils/rawritewin/rawritewin.exe to write the Respin1 CD-1 to write images/drvnet.img to drive a with no problems. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-W23uIgJ56WObDRvqXNJn Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 23:55, Keith Morse wrote:

Hopefully someone has seen this issue before.  I need to use boot floppies 
to install whitebox on a pc that has no cd drive.  It's a funky dell 
desktop that requires a specific drive.  I'm using winimage to write the 
image to a floppy.  The bootdisk.img works without problem.  With 
drvnet.img winimage fails to read the image.  I've tried three of the 
mirrors so far, all with the same behaviour "error reading image".


Ideas?

There seems to be something wrong with the dosutils directory on the mirrors .... it doesn't have all the tools in it.

All the tools are on the Respin1 CD-1.

I used dosutils/rawritewin/rawritewin.exe to write the Respin1 CD-1 to write images/drvnet.img to drive a with no problems.




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-W23uIgJ56WObDRvqXNJn-- From randykel@swbell.net Sun Jul 11 16:42:27 2004 From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:42:27 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL and SWAT In-Reply-To: <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762457@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40EC095B.7070901@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <40F15FE3.8030009@swbell.net> Ganeshram Iyer wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering if samba-swat is installed with WBEL server install. I > dont remember selecting it when performing the installation? I am a > bit of a newbie with Linux so wondering what I need to do to verify > SWAT install and how to run. I followed some directions that I found > on configuring it using the xinetd as well the swat file and then > tried to connect to SWAT using http://localhost:901 (also tried > http://127.0.0.1:901 along with a few other combos, server name, DHCP > address etc...) but I get the message that "unable to connect to site > at port 901". I even turned off the firewall completely and also > shutdown iptables in all 3,4,5 states. anybody have any links to > HOWTOs or SWAT un/official manuals? I would really appreciate the help. > The swat package is not installed by default. If you have yum setup correctly, you can do a 'yum install samba-swat' and install it, then 'chkconfig swat on', and it should work. If you don't have yum setup, samba-swat is on the third WBEL CD. From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Sun Jul 11 16:53:47 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:53:47 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted srpm in the repository In-Reply-To: <1089530633.2138.9.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> References: <40F09584.9050102@dynacomp.net> <1089530633.2138.9.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> Message-ID: <40F1628B.5000408@dynacomp.net> Thank you for your help. I originaly found this error when I set up repo-janitor to mirror NCSU Wbel repository. Repo-janitor checks integrity of my mirror after every sync, that's when the checksum failed. I understand that's what the "updates" repository is for, but maybe I should submit a bug report to the whitebox-devel list or something. Andy Edward Rudd wrote: >On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 20:19, Andy wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Whenever I try to install rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm I get a following >>error: >> >>[root@localhost SRPMS.os]# rpm -i rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm >>error: rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 73307de6 >>error: rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm cannot be installed >> >> >> >try download the updated source rpm from the updates >(rpm-4.2.2-0.14.WB1.src.rpm) that one checks out fine for me. > >$ rpm -K rpm-4.2.2-0.14.WB1.src.rpm >rpm-4.2.2-0.14.WB1.src.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 md5 gpg OK > >it seems as if the stock RPM src rpm for WBEL is messed up from my end >as well. > >$ rpm -K rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm >rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 MD5 GPG NOT OK > >MD5 is bad and the GPG is bad.. > > > >>I tried to download it from different sources, is it possible that the >>file on the master repository is corrupted? >> >>Andy >>_______________________________________________ >>Whitebox-users mailing list >>Whitebox-users@beau.org >>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >> >> From jamesk@ifm-services.com Sun Jul 11 16:53:28 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:53:28 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL and SWAT In-Reply-To: <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762457@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40EC095B.7070901@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <40F16278.6080906@ifm-services.com> Make sure xinetd has swat enabled. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From randykel@swbell.net Sun Jul 11 19:44:12 2004 From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:44:12 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL and SWAT In-Reply-To: <40F16278.6080906@ifm-services.com> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762457@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40EC095B.7070901@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> <40F16278.6080906@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <40F18A7C.4060901@swbell.net> James Knowles wrote: > Make sure xinetd has swat enabled. > The 'chkconfig swat on' will enable the swat file under /etc/xinetd.d. From jmorris@beau.org Mon Jul 12 00:54:42 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:54:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] where can I find the past archive of this mail list In-Reply-To: <40EE3A06.3050809@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Andy wrote: > I just asked the same question couple of days ago. Maybe this should be > included in the whiteboxlinux.org's FAQ section? Sounds like it. Hoping to get enough of the alligators beat back I can catch up the WB stuff. Priority #1 though is getting the errata for httpd out. Can't believe I have got this far behind on an errata again. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From kbohling@birddog.com Mon Jul 12 01:15:21 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:15:21 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] drvnet.img In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040712001519.GA2054@hawk.birddog.com> On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 09:55:00PM -0700, Keith Morse wrote: > > Hopefully someone has seen this issue before. I need to use boot floppies > to install whitebox on a pc that has no cd drive. It's a funky dell > desktop that requires a specific drive. I'm using winimage to write the > image to a floppy. The bootdisk.img works without problem. With > drvnet.img winimage fails to read the image. I've tried three of the > mirrors so far, all with the same behaviour "error reading image". > Can you get the thing to net-boot? If you can, you can do a network install with kickstart. With kickstart, I believe you can sepecify a URL for the driver images if you need a really odd one. However, I believe the network install has all of the drivers you'll need on the kernel images (unlike the floppies due to limited space). I've done the network install several times at home, it's a relatively straight forward process once you figure out how to configure the TFTP server, and realize that you have to use the netbooting parts of syslinux. It took me about two hours from knowing nothing about a TFTP booting to getting the install working, by judicious use of google, and reading the RHEL and syslinux documentation. I also don't believe you that the machine won't take a CD-ROM drive. Install a SCSI one, or install a decent IDE card and you should be able to boot from one. What kinda dell is it just so I know what to avoid in the future? Thanks, Kirby From jmorris@beau.org Mon Jul 12 01:46:45 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:46:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted srpm in the repository In-Reply-To: <40F09584.9050102@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Andy wrote: > I tried to download it from different sources, is it possible that the > file on the master repository is corrupted? Nope, primary has a good signature: [jmorris@hermes jmorris]$ cd /xtra/whitebox/3.0/en/os/i386/SRPMS/ [jmorris@hermes SRPMS]$ rpm --checksig rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 md5 gpg OK Pulled a copy from a mirror: [jmorris@mjolnir jmorris]$ rpm --checksig rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm rpm-4.2.1-4.2.WB1.src.rpm: (sha1) dsa sha1 MD5 GPG NOT OK Pulled from NCSU and got the same thing, since they all pull from them they are all going to be bogus. Time to holler at em. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From sharon63@lineone.net Mon Jul 12 11:06:55 2004 From: sharon63@lineone.net (Sharon Kimble) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:06:55 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] up2date problems Message-ID: <1089626815.19348.5.camel@dsl-80-42-173-137.access.uk.tiscali.com> This is odd. The RHN applet shows that there is one update available [I think that it is whitebox-release-3.0-6_i386.rpm] and yet when launched up2date shows after searching the mirrors that the system is up to date. Does this mean that the mirrors haven't caught up with the main repository yet [or iow I'm too early :) ]? Sharon. From phantomnj@gmail.com Mon Jul 12 14:36:32 2004 From: phantomnj@gmail.com (Robert Kropiewnicki) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:36:32 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Postgresql Init Script Message-ID: <35772c3a0407120636415a1361@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Does anyone have a postgresql init script to put in /etc/rc.d/init.d that they'd be willing to share with me. Unless I'm doing something wrong, which is quite possible, it appears that the postgresql package installed via yum does not include one. I tried using the script found at http://www.faqs.org/securing/chat27sec224.html but it is giving me a number of errors because of things it expects to find that are not there. Any and all help is appreciated. Regards, Robert Kropiewnicki From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Mon Jul 12 15:04:18 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Postgresql Init Script In-Reply-To: <35772c3a0407120636415a1361@mail.gmail.com> References: <35772c3a0407120636415a1361@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3867.12.29.16.103.1089641058.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Robert Kropiewnicki said: > Hello all, > > > Does anyone have a postgresql init script to put in /etc/rc.d/init.d > that they'd be willing to share with me. Unless I'm doing something wrong, > which is quite possible, it appears that the postgresql package installed > via yum does not include one. Which RPM are you installing? [whooper@token RPMS]$ rpm -qlp rh-postgresql-server-7.3.4-8.i386.rpm | grep init.d /etc/rc.d/init.d/rhdb -- William Hooper From green@r8.dion.ne.jp Mon Jul 12 15:11:27 2004 From: green@r8.dion.ne.jp (Green) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:11:27 +0900 Subject: [WBEL-users] up2date problems Message-ID: <20040712231127.0e1e303e.green@r8.dion.ne.jp> >This is odd. The RHN applet shows that there is one update available [I >think that it is whitebox-release-3.0-6_i386.rpm] and yet when launched >up2date shows after searching the mirrors that the system is up to date. > >Does this mean that the mirrors haven't caught up with the main >repository yet [or iow I'm too early :) ]? "-6_i386.rpm"---What is its exact package name? I think it is because there is no such package uproaded on the repository which you are refering to, or by any other reasons. How about using a command "yum update or "yum upgrade , instead? Green. From webmaster@ew3d.com Mon Jul 12 15:30:46 2004 From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:30:46 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] CGIs Message-ID: <40F2A096.30506@ew3d.com> I'm moving from RH 7.2 to WBEL. It seems the CGI scripts are way more finicky on the new system. First, many exact copies, downloaded in ascii from the old system and uploaded in ascii to the new system require running dos2unix before they will run. Also, it seems that if I put a cgi into a directory inside the cgi-bin, they'll refuse to run as well. One of our users on a Mac, which does a lot of CGIs, is having huge troubles where he didn't hit hardly any snags on the old RH 7.2 system. Has anybody else been dealing with this? Any suggestions on what may be the cause. I'm up to my ears in work and having trouble eeking out the time to keep looking and configuring and trying to figure this out. Thanks, John Hinton From kgmorse@mpcu.com Mon Jul 12 16:52:06 2004 From: kgmorse@mpcu.com (Keith Morse) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: drvnet.img In-Reply-To: <1089542849.5230.47.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 23:55, Keith Morse wrote: > > > Hopefully someone has seen this issue before. I need to use boot floppies > > to install whitebox on a pc that has no cd drive. It's a funky dell > > desktop that requires a specific drive. I'm using winimage to write the > > image to a floppy. The bootdisk.img works without problem. With > > drvnet.img winimage fails to read the image. I've tried three of the > > mirrors so far, all with the same behaviour "error reading image". > > > > > > Ideas? > > There seems to be something wrong with the dosutils directory on the > mirrors .... it doesn't have all the tools in it. > > All the tools are on the Respin1 CD-1. > > I used dosutils/rawritewin/rawritewin.exe to write the Respin1 CD-1 to > write images/drvnet.img to drive a with no problems. Yes, I was expecting to find rawrite.exe there also. Kind of surprised not to find it. I ended up searching on the web and found rawritewin which ended up working and I was able to create a drvnet disk. Still, it's kind of odd that winimage didn't work. First time that I can remember it not working on a redhat derivative boot image. From kgmorse@mpcu.com Mon Jul 12 16:56:20 2004 From: kgmorse@mpcu.com (Keith Morse) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: drvnet.img In-Reply-To: <20040712001519.GA2054@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Kirby Bohling wrote: > On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 09:55:00PM -0700, Keith Morse wrote: > > > > Hopefully someone has seen this issue before. I need to use boot floppies > > to install whitebox on a pc that has no cd drive. It's a funky dell > > desktop that requires a specific drive. I'm using winimage to write the > > image to a floppy. The bootdisk.img works without problem. With > > drvnet.img winimage fails to read the image. I've tried three of the > > mirrors so far, all with the same behaviour "error reading image". > > > > Can you get the thing to net-boot? If you can, you can do a > network install with kickstart. With kickstart, I believe you can > sepecify a URL for the driver images if you need a really odd one. > However, I believe the network install has all of the drivers you'll > need on the kernel images (unlike the floppies due to limited > space). Chicken and egg thing. No driver for the nic so I can't go to the network for the nic driver. > > I've done the network install several times at home, it's a > relatively straight forward process once you figure out how to > configure the TFTP server, and realize that you have to use the > netbooting parts of syslinux. It took me about two hours from > knowing nothing about a TFTP booting to getting the install working, > by judicious use of google, and reading the RHEL and syslinux > documentation. > > I also don't believe you that the machine won't take a CD-ROM > drive. Install a SCSI one, or install a decent IDE card and you > should be able to boot from one. What kinda dell is it just so I > know what to avoid in the future? It's a Dell GX-50, a small form factor desktop. I could have gotten a cd drive to work but lacked a molex power splitter to power the cd drive, there were no spare connectors from that power supply. But that was late Saturday and now that it is Monday morning, things have improved considerably. From kbohling@birddog.com Mon Jul 12 17:23:59 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:23:59 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: drvnet.img In-Reply-To: References: <20040712001519.GA2054@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: <20040712162358.GE2054@hawk.birddog.com> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 08:56:20AM -0700, Keith Morse wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Kirby Bohling wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 09:55:00PM -0700, Keith Morse wrote: > > > > > > Hopefully someone has seen this issue before. I need to use boot floppies > > > to install whitebox on a pc that has no cd drive. It's a funky dell > > > desktop that requires a specific drive. I'm using winimage to write the > > > image to a floppy. The bootdisk.img works without problem. With > > > drvnet.img winimage fails to read the image. I've tried three of the > > > mirrors so far, all with the same behaviour "error reading image". > > > > > > > Can you get the thing to net-boot? If you can, you can do a > > network install with kickstart. With kickstart, I believe you can > > sepecify a URL for the driver images if you need a really odd one. > > However, I believe the network install has all of the drivers you'll > > need on the kernel images (unlike the floppies due to limited > > space). > > Chicken and egg thing. No driver for the nic so I can't go to the network > for the nic driver. Unless you're building the driver special, the network boot image isn't limited to what can fit on a floppy, so it has pretty much all of the NIC's on the image. Just like the CD has a ton more drivers then the network floppy does. I'm not suggesting you use the floppy to boot ther kernel, I'm suggesting you get the kernel via BOOTP/DHCP and a PXE environment. If you have a second whitebox machine anywhere near by it's easy to do. Kirby From phantomnj@gmail.com Mon Jul 12 17:24:20 2004 From: phantomnj@gmail.com (Robert Kropiewnicki) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:24:20 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Postgresql Init Script In-Reply-To: <3867.12.29.16.103.1089641058.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <35772c3a0407120636415a1361@mail.gmail.com> <3867.12.29.16.103.1089641058.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <35772c3a0407120924559c6238@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:04:18 -0400 (EDT), William Hooper wrote: > > Robert Kropiewnicki said: > > Hello all, > > > > > > Does anyone have a postgresql init script to put in /etc/rc.d/init.d > > that they'd be willing to share with me. Unless I'm doing something wrong, > > which is quite possible, it appears that the postgresql package installed > > via yum does not include one. > > Which RPM are you installing? > > [whooper@token RPMS]$ rpm -qlp rh-postgresql-server-7.3.4-8.i386.rpm | grep init.d > /etc/rc.d/init.d/rhdb > > -- > William Hooper > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > Accidentally sent my reply only to William before. Just wanted to say that it did indeed solve my problem. Many thanks to William for the answer. From kgmorse@mpcu.com Mon Jul 12 22:05:28 2004 From: kgmorse@mpcu.com (Keith Morse) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Re: drvnet.img In-Reply-To: <20040712162358.GE2054@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Kirby Bohling wrote: > Unless you're building the driver special, the network boot image > isn't limited to what can fit on a floppy, so it has pretty much all > of the NIC's on the image. Just like the CD has a ton more drivers > then the network floppy does. I'm not suggesting you use the floppy > to boot ther kernel, I'm suggesting you get the kernel via > BOOTP/DHCP and a PXE environment. If you have a second whitebox > machine anywhere near by it's easy to do. > > Kirby So far I have not yet setup a PXE environment, but this is on my list of things to do. Actually I'm not sure the GX50 supports PXE. Hmmmmmm, guess I'll need to look into that also. From josh.dalziel@gmail.com Mon Jul 12 23:49:27 2004 From: josh.dalziel@gmail.com (Joshua Boobzerelli) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:49:27 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] evolution and evolution connector Message-ID: <43c114204071215497b217659@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone gotten those both to work? When I try to install it gives me an error and says it cant dectect my OS. Any words of wisdom? Thanks Josh From liverbird89@hotmail.com Tue Jul 13 07:07:30 2004 From: liverbird89@hotmail.com (Graham Waring) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:07:30 +1000 Subject: [WBEL-users] thank you Message-ID: Hi whitebox, Congratulations on your distro, you have restored my faith in opensource. I have been a sys admin using linux since 1998 (mostly redhat) and could not believe it when redhat changed to the money hungry company it is today. Good on you for your efforts. _________________________________________________________________ Find love today with ninemsn personals. Click here: http://ninemsn.match.com?referrer=hotmailtagline From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Jul 13 11:46:22 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 05:46:22 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] thank you In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089715582.16094.18.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-YCNkJyykusWNXts9Nbje Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 01:07, Graham Waring wrote: > Hi whitebox, > > Congratulations on your distro, you have restored my faith in opensource. I > have been a sys admin using linux since 1998 (mostly redhat) and could not > believe it when redhat changed to the money hungry company it is today. > > Good on you for your efforts. > I don't necessarily agree with RedHat's strategy ... but, this distro is only available because of RedHat's awesome open source policy concerning their enterprise product. Where are the SLES-8 or Mandrake Enterprise rebuild offerings ... not released, because SUSE and Mandrake do not provide the same availability to SRPMS for their Enterprise product. You can not easily obtain SLES-8 updates unless you have a subscription ... and until very recently, YAST was not even distributable at all. Mandrake Enterprise is not certified for Oracle or many of the other products ... and also doesn't provide the same level of access for their updates. RedHat only has to make the SRPMS available to their customers ... which they do through RHN. Specifically, RedHat makes every SRPM update available to the general public, the same day they put out the Binary RPM for RHEL customers. They also released their Cluster Services and Global File System products and release their updates to those products as well. Make no mistake about it ... RedHat is a major open source supporter. More so than any of the other commercial Linux companies. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-YCNkJyykusWNXts9Nbje Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 01:07, Graham Waring wrote:

Hi whitebox,

Congratulations on your distro, you have restored my faith in opensource.  I 
have been a sys admin using linux since 1998 (mostly redhat) and could not 
believe it when redhat changed to the money hungry company it is today.

Good on you for your efforts.

I don't necessarily agree with RedHat's strategy ... but, this distro is only available because of RedHat's awesome open source policy concerning their enterprise product.

Where are the SLES-8 or Mandrake Enterprise rebuild offerings ... not released, because SUSE and Mandrake do not provide the same availability to SRPMS for their Enterprise product. You can not easily obtain SLES-8 updates unless you have a subscription ... and until very recently, YAST was not even distributable at all. Mandrake Enterprise is not certified for Oracle or many of the other products ... and also doesn't provide the same level of access for their updates.

RedHat only has to make the SRPMS available to their customers ... which they do through RHN.

Specifically, RedHat makes every SRPM update available to the general public, the same day they put out the Binary RPM for RHEL customers. They also released their Cluster Services and Global File System products and release their updates to those products as well.

Make no mistake about it ... RedHat is a major open source supporter. More so than any of the other commercial Linux companies.




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-YCNkJyykusWNXts9Nbje-- From adrians@turnkey.web.za Tue Jul 13 13:21:59 2004 From: adrians@turnkey.web.za (Adrian Snyman) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:21:59 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] IBM Universe 10.1 on Whitebox (respin) Message-ID: <200407131421.59800.adrians@turnkey.web.za> We are running this system quite nicely .. The only problem we seem to have is that when Universe does system calls (printing / mailing etc.) it seems to slow down .. Does anyone run this config ?? If so, any ideas where we can look ?? -- Regards, Adrian Snyman Tel: (083)647-5299 /* Beat Me, Whip Me, Make me use Windows !! */ From Kuervers.SJ@forces.gc.ca Tue Jul 13 14:29:56 2004 From: Kuervers.SJ@forces.gc.ca (Kuervers.SJ@forces.gc.ca) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:29:56 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Re: drvnet.img Message-ID: <20040713132435.EBBC52A705@mx02.forces.gc.ca> There are PXE boot disks available (floppy, with minimal PXE boot code for specific nics) that would probably solve this if the GX50 is actually NOT pxe compatible. I would be surprised though, most of the 'big name' servers over the last 5 years have had PXE build into the BIOS and/or NICS. Drop me an email if you need a PXE boot disk, with details as to the NIC in the machine, and I'll see if I have one that is distributable. One of the easiest to find (but subject to licensing) is the RIS boot disk that comes with Windows 2000 Advanced Server, but of course it requires an Advanced Server license. I can confirm that the RIS boot disk will work with linux installations (pxelinux - a syslinux tool - is your friend!) Steve Kuervers Systems Engineer Land Force Western Area Area Simulation Centre (Edmonton) Department of National Defence (Calian Contractor) (780) 973-4011 Ext 5831 (780) 973-1557 Fax CSN 528-5831 mailto:kuervers.sj@forces.gc.ca http://www.army.dnd.ca/ASC_LFWA/ -----Original Message----- From: Keith Morse [mailto:kgmorse@mpcu.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 3:05 PM To: Kirby Bohling Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Re: drvnet.img On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Kirby Bohling wrote: > Unless you're building the driver special, the network boot image > isn't limited to what can fit on a floppy, so it has pretty much all > of the NIC's on the image. Just like the CD has a ton more drivers > then the network floppy does. I'm not suggesting you use the floppy > to boot ther kernel, I'm suggesting you get the kernel via > BOOTP/DHCP and a PXE environment. If you have a second whitebox > machine anywhere near by it's easy to do. > > Kirby So far I have not yet setup a PXE environment, but this is on my list of things to do. Actually I'm not sure the GX50 supports PXE. Hmmmmmm, guess I'll need to look into that also. _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From gri0941@exchange.uta.edu Tue Jul 13 15:32:22 2004 From: gri0941@exchange.uta.edu (Ganeshram Iyer) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:32:22 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: wbel and swat Message-ID: <40F3F276.1070000@exchange.uta.edu> Thanks to all for your help with samba-swat. but I still have no luck. i finally realised that swat was not installed. i did a yum install samba-swat and then a chkconfig swat on. but no swat. James Knowles mentioned that I need to make sure that xinetd has swat enabled. I used this from one of the links in the replies: # default: off # description: SWAT is the Samba Web Admin Tool. Use swat \ # to configure your Samba server. To use SWAT, \ # connect to port 901 with your favorite web browser. service swat { port = 901 socket_type = stream wait = no only_from = localhost user = root server = /usr/sbin/swat log_on_failure += USERID disable = no } and then I restarted the computer just to be safe. but still no go. when i access http://localhost:901 i still get "unable to connect error". assuming that i made a mistake somewhere how can I start all over again from the beginning as if nothing was ever installed? do i just do a yum uninstall samba-swat? thanks in advance for all your help again. thanks ganesh PS: sorry if i emailed this twice. i dont know if i replied to the group or to an individual email. From Mickael Maddison Tue Jul 13 15:32:34 2004 From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:32:34 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: [WBEL-users] thank you In-Reply-To: <1089715582.16094.18.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <1089715582.16094.18.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <466298383.20040713073234@kamloopsbc.com> Hello Johnny, Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 3:46:22 AM, you wrote: JH> Make no mistake about it ... RedHat is a major open source JH> supporter.� More so than any of the other commercial Linux JH> companies. Your comments about RedHat are very well placed. It is just too bad the pricing of the product does not reflect non-enterprise users though. For most of us, the pricing went from a few $ for RHN subscriptions to, in many cases, more than the cost of the hardware being used.It's like your phone company just realized the cost of customer support was higher than they'd forcast, so they're increasing the cost of your phone service exponentially. The general public would change providers in a heartbeat. So on that note, we're all very happy to have WBEL around. -- Best regards, Mickael mailto:mike@kamloopsbc.com From james_marcinek@yahoo.com Tue Jul 13 15:38:35 2004 From: james_marcinek@yahoo.com (James Marcinek) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Anyone create a kickstart based CD? Message-ID: <20040713143835.98927.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Everyone, I'd like to be able to use the boot.iso disk and put a kickstart file on it. I know the syslinux.cfg file needs to be modified (as I've done this using floppies); however I'm not sure how to do this... I'm taking a gues that the line in the syslinux.cfg should be: KS=CDROM (as using the floppy method). I tried it once but may not have burned the CD properly. I did a direct copy and added the ks.cfg file and modified the other one then created the CD. However it didn't do anything when trying to boot from (I could see the contents of the CD when browsing). Any thoughts? Thanks, James __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Tue Jul 13 16:17:27 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:17:27 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP and Apache 2.0 Message-ID: <40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net> Hi, When surfing through PHP docs I came across a page describing problems PHP is having with Apache 2.0. In summary, Apache 2.0 is threaded, PHP is not thread safe. The page further elaborates on the compile-time parameters that I'm not really familiar with. The page in question is found here http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.apache2.php Can someone please confirm that this is indeed how httpd is compiled in the stock WBEL rpm? I know that in Debian there are multiple httpd packages to choose from, but WBEL has just one. I would hate to have to compile Apache 1.3 every time I want to use PHP :-( Thank you for your help! Andy From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Jul 13 16:58:43 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP and Apache 2.0 In-Reply-To: <40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net> References: <40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: <3995.12.29.16.103.1089734323.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Andy said: > Can someone please confirm that this is indeed how httpd is compiled in > the stock WBEL rpm? I know that in Debian there are multiple httpd packages > to choose from, but WBEL has just one. http://www.redhat.com/archives/taroon-list/2004-May/msg00188.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/taroon-list/2004-May/msg00177.html -- William Hooper From kbohling@birddog.com Tue Jul 13 19:06:23 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:06:23 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Anyone create a kickstart based CD? In-Reply-To: <20040713143835.98927.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040713143835.98927.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040713180621.GA6521@hawk.birddog.com> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 07:38:35AM -0700, James Marcinek wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I'd like to be able to use the boot.iso disk and put a > kickstart file on it. I know the syslinux.cfg file > needs to be modified (as I've done this using > floppies); however I'm not sure how to do this... > > I'm taking a gues that the line in the syslinux.cfg > should be: > KS=CDROM This is the page you are looking for: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-kickstart2-startinginstall.html > > (as using the floppy method). > > I tried it once but may not have burned the CD > properly. I did a direct copy and added the ks.cfg > file and modified the other one then created the CD. > However it didn't do anything when trying to boot from > (I could see the contents of the CD when browsing). > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > James > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From kbohling@birddog.com Tue Jul 13 19:21:36 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:21:36 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Anyone create a kickstart based CD? In-Reply-To: <20040713180621.GA6521@hawk.birddog.com> References: <20040713143835.98927.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com> <20040713180621.GA6521@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: <20040713182135.GB6521@hawk.birddog.com> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 01:06:23PM -0500, Kirby Bohling wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 07:38:35AM -0700, James Marcinek wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > > > I'd like to be able to use the boot.iso disk and put a > > kickstart file on it. I know the syslinux.cfg file > > needs to be modified (as I've done this using > > floppies); however I'm not sure how to do this... > > > > I'm taking a gues that the line in the syslinux.cfg > > should be: > > KS=CDROM > > This is the page you are looking for: > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-kickstart2-startinginstall.html Sorry, you'll probably also want to look at this: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/x8664-multi-install-guide/s1-steps-install-cdrom.html#S2-STEPS-MAKE-CD From alex@ingrian.com Tue Jul 13 21:46:35 2004 From: alex@ingrian.com (Alex Tkachenko) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:46:35 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Odd window drag behaviour In-Reply-To: <40E2F39B.30802@ifm-services.com> References: <40E2E3B4.9060605@ifm-services.com> <40E2F39B.30802@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <1089751595.27086.63.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 10:08, James Knowles wrote: > > I can't find anything relevant in google, > > > OK. I eventually found something. This is a known bug. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=104262 > > " Additional Comment #17 From Havoc Pennington on 2004-05-25 15:50" > > "Should be fixed in Fedora Core 2, and a backport of the fix is > scheduled for the next RHEL 3 update." > > I have a workaround, and can sit tight until then. Thanks for your > patience with my questions. :-) You may want to take a look at this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107149 It has a patch for RHEL version of metacity package - I have it locally applied until it gets its way into the official update. The workaround is to change window focus policy through preferences. Hope this helps, Alex From eddie@omegaware.com Tue Jul 13 22:08:58 2004 From: eddie@omegaware.com (Edward Rudd) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:08:58 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP and Apache 2.0 In-Reply-To: <40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net> References: <40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: <1089752938.25051.21.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:17, Andy wrote: > Hi, > > When surfing through PHP docs I came across a page describing problems > PHP is having with Apache 2.0. In summary, Apache 2.0 is threaded, PHP > is not thread safe. The page further elaborates on the compile-time > parameters that I'm not really familiar with. The page in question is > found here http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.apache2.php > This is FUD.. There are some issues with PHP not working nicely if you Apache 2 is build with threading, but the default mode on linux for apache 2 is preforking which is the same as Apache 1.3. > Can someone please confirm that this is indeed how httpd is compiled in > the stock WBEL rpm? I know that in Debian there are multiple httpd > packages to choose from, but WBEL has just one. > WBEL's httpd is compiled in "prefork" mode which. (--with-mpm=prefork) you can also download the WBEL httpd src.rpm file and look at the spec file contained as to the compile options. > I would hate to have to compile Apache 1.3 every time I want to use PHP :-( > > Thank you for your help! > > Andy > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users -- Edward Rudd Website http://www.outoforder.cc/ From eddie@omegaware.com Tue Jul 13 22:14:30 2004 From: eddie@omegaware.com (Edward Rudd) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:14:30 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] evolution and evolution connector In-Reply-To: <43c114204071215497b217659@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c114204071215497b217659@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1089753270.25055.25.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 17:49, Joshua Boobzerelli wrote: > Has anyone gotten those both to work? When I try to install it gives > me an error and says it cant dectect my OS. Any words of wisdom? > WBEL includes evolution 1.4.5, just up2date -i evolution As for connector you'll probably have to compile it yourself.. Ximain's go.ximian.com script only works with supported OS's which RHEL/WBEL are not supported.. You can try manually downloading builds for Redhat 9 from ximains website. > Thanks > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users -- Edward Rudd Website http://www.outoforder.cc/ From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Wed Jul 14 00:43:45 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:43:45 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP and Apache 2.0 In-Reply-To: <1089752938.25051.21.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> References: <40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net> <1089752938.25051.21.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> Message-ID: <40F473B1.6000903@dynacomp.net> Thanks everybody for the clarification! It's too easy to get us newbs scared :-) Andy Edward Rudd wrote: >On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:17, Andy wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>When surfing through PHP docs I came across a page describing problems >>PHP is having with Apache 2.0. In summary, Apache 2.0 is threaded, PHP >>is not thread safe. The page further elaborates on the compile-time >>parameters that I'm not really familiar with. The page in question is >>found here http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.apache2.php >> >> >> >This is FUD.. There are some issues with PHP not working nicely if you >Apache 2 is build with threading, but the default mode on linux for >apache 2 is preforking which is the same as Apache 1.3. > > > >>Can someone please confirm that this is indeed how httpd is compiled in >>the stock WBEL rpm? I know that in Debian there are multiple httpd >>packages to choose from, but WBEL has just one. >> >> >> >WBEL's httpd is compiled in "prefork" mode which. (--with-mpm=prefork) >you can also download the WBEL httpd src.rpm file and look at the spec >file contained as to the compile options. > > > >>I would hate to have to compile Apache 1.3 every time I want to use PHP :-( >> >>Thank you for your help! >> >>Andy >>_______________________________________________ >>Whitebox-users mailing list >>Whitebox-users@beau.org >>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >> >> From jmorris@beau.org Wed Jul 14 01:51:48 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:51:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Odd window drag behaviour In-Reply-To: <1089751595.27086.63.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Alex Tkachenko wrote: > It has a patch for RHEL version of metacity package - I have it > locally applied until it gets its way into the official update. Ok, this one bugs me enough I'm wondering if it justifies pushing up a patched version of metacity instead of waiting for RedHat to get around to it in U3. I know I'll be adding this patch to my own copies, but should it go into the mainline? It would mark a departure from tracking RH exactly and that worries me. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From haynest@mchsi.com Wed Jul 14 02:42:47 2004 From: haynest@mchsi.com (haynest@mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:42:47 +0000 Subject: [WBEL-users] Odd window drag behaviour Message-ID: <071420040142.10035.4fe5@mchsi.com> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Alex Tkachenko wrote: > > > It has a patch for RHEL version of metacity package - I have it > > locally applied until it gets its way into the official update. > > Ok, this one bugs me enough I'm wondering if it justifies pushing up a > patched version of metacity instead of waiting for RedHat to get around to > it in U3. I know I'll be adding this patch to my own copies, but should > it go into the mainline? It would mark a departure from tracking RH > exactly and that worries me. My 2 cents... Anyone patches his/her own machine if it seems like a good idea. I prefer to think of WBEL staying on the same page as RHEL with "official" patches. Regards... Tom From alex@ingrian.com Wed Jul 14 04:32:27 2004 From: alex@ingrian.com (Alex Tkachenko) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:32:27 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Odd window drag behaviour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089775946.27080.77.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 17:51, John Morris wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Alex Tkachenko wrote: > > > It has a patch for RHEL version of metacity package - I have it > > locally applied until it gets its way into the official update. > > Ok, this one bugs me enough I'm wondering if it justifies pushing up a > patched version of metacity instead of waiting for RedHat to get around to > it in U3. I know I'll be adding this patch to my own copies, but should > it go into the mainline? It would mark a departure from tracking RH > exactly and that worries me. This is not the only problem with RHEL packages; I bet everybody comes up with some sort of local repository sooner or later, but this is exactly what it is: a local repository. The original goal is to keep the main distribution (whitebox, centos, tao, etc) as close to the original rhel, as possible, to make use of automatically distributed binary updates and third-party software. Believe me, once you start fixing packages yourself, you won't stop, and a year later you may find yourself maintaining your own distro. The original compatibility, so valuable because of the above reasons will be lost somewhere down the road. So my advice - keep all the fixed packages clearly separated, and be ready to restore the original set should you need it (especially true in corporate environment). If you really need something more decent - go for Fedora. Have a nice day, Alex From kurt@raschke.net Wed Jul 14 18:48:44 2004 From: kurt@raschke.net (Kurt Raschke) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:48:44 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? Message-ID: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> I currently have several servers running at home with RedHat 9. I am presently getting updates from Fedora Legacy, but I would like to move those machines to a more modern OS. I am concerned that Fedora is a bit too unstable to run on a server, and furthermore it seems like Fedora is on to a new testing release before the bugs have been worked out in the current release. So, I have been evaluating the RHEL rebuild projects. However, I'm not sure if any of the three projects could be used to upgrade from RedHat 9, as I would really rather not reinstall these servers. Additionally, assuming there even is a viable upgrade path, then which RHEL rebuild project should I go with? -Kurt From rdieter@math.unl.edu Wed Jul 14 18:58:44 2004 From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:58:44 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> Message-ID: <40F57454.9080100@math.unl.edu> Kurt Raschke wrote: > So, I have been evaluating the RHEL rebuild projects. However, I'm > not sure if any of the three projects could be used to upgrade from > RedHat 9, as I would really rather not reinstall these servers. > Additionally, assuming there even is a viable upgrade path, then which > RHEL rebuild project should I go with? FYI, none of RHEL or clones officially support upgrading From RedHat Linux. Some folks have been able to kludge it with apt/yum, but it's not recommended or for the feint of heart. -- Rex From rk@raimokoski.com Wed Jul 14 20:01:00 2004 From: rk@raimokoski.com (Raimo Koski) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:01:00 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <40F57454.9080100@math.unl.edu> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> <40F57454.9080100@math.unl.edu> Message-ID: <40F582EC.5050307@raimokoski.com> Rex Dieter wrote: > Kurt Raschke wrote: > FYI, none of RHEL or clones officially support upgrading From RedHat > Linux. Some folks have been able to kludge it with apt/yum, but it's > not recommended or for the feint of heart. Lineox doesn't officially support anything, but has at least detailed instructions how to upgrade both with booting the installation or with apt. See http://www.lineox.com/rh9migration.php -- Raimo Koski http://www.lineox.com/ http://www.raimokoski.com/ From randykel@swbell.net Wed Jul 14 23:54:45 2004 From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:54:45 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> Message-ID: <40F5B9B5.7030200@swbell.net> Kurt Raschke wrote: >I currently have several servers running at home with RedHat 9. I am >presently getting updates from Fedora Legacy, but I would like to move >those machines to a more modern OS. I am concerned that Fedora is a >bit too unstable to run on a server, and furthermore it seems like >Fedora is on to a new testing release before the bugs have been worked >out in the current release. > > I find Fedora very stable. There are some combinations of hardware that cause problems. What are you using for hardware? >So, I have been evaluating the RHEL rebuild projects. However, I'm >not sure if any of the three projects could be used to upgrade from >RedHat 9, as I would really rather not reinstall these servers. >Additionally, assuming there even is a viable upgrade path, then which >RHEL rebuild project should I go with? > > If you have installed all of your applications with rpm, you will be more successful with an upgrade. If you have compiled and installed some apps from tarballs, you will probably see some problems. There are plenty of people on the Fedora list that have gone the upgrade route and upgraded from RH9 to Fedora Core 1. I did an upgrade from RH 7.2 to 8.0 using apt, and it worked, but it was buggy. Nothing major, but annoying. For example, with 7.2 I could right click on the desktop and have a menu item to add a launcher. With the apt upgrade, that was gone, but I noticed on another machine that had 8.0 loaded from scratch, that the 'add launcher' was there. I have quit doing upgrades and instead, I just use a second disk and install onto that, then move my data over from the old drive. I then use the previous drive for the next upgrade. This is the most stable way to go for me. From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 15 00:15:48 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:15:48 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow X w/ nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 ??? Message-ID: <40F5BEA4.3040908@ifm-services.com> I switched both hardware and OS when I went to the workstation that I'm using right now. HW details: * new mobo (MSI K7N2 Delta), Athlon XP 2800+, 1GB RAM * nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 video card * other HW moved from old machine. Unfortunately the new mobo's AGP slot won't take the slightly older 1x/2x AGP card I was using (Matrox G450); I didn't realize that until I nearly had the whole thing assembled, so I rand down to the store again. This nVidia card was the least expensive one the store had in stock that would go into the 4x/8x AGP slot (about $30). OS details: Wiped disks clean (had FC2) and installed a fresh WBEL Respin 1; all updates applied. What I'm seeing is X performance that is, quite frankly, sucky. WBEL installed without a problem or complaint. It detected the video card fine. The slowness generally doesn't interfere with ordinary activities such as web browsing, using OpenOffice, doing ordinary development work, etc. The GIMP can be sluggish doing updates on large (3600x4500) images. When I run VMWare, I see a distinct performance drop compared to the previous Matrox G450, as well as bursts of near 100% of CPU cycles consumed by X (according to top). It's annoying but doesn't stop me from doing my Win32 development work, accounting, &c. Over the weekend I downloaded Freeciv 1.14.1, compiled, and ran -- but holy smokes, each action has a 1-3 second delay, and when the screen refreshes &c. top shows X burning up almost 100% CPU time. While this is completely trivial, and I could have done something more productive for those 3 hours, this appears to be an exaggerated case of X seriously dragging its behind. I'm *assuming* that this is a X driver problem (but I know what happens when I ass*u*me things), but I'm not turning up good information from Google. bugzilla.redhat.com has only one [irrelevant] closed for RHEL 3 listed under "nvidia" and "geforce". Anyhow, I'm not sure where to look at this point. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From jamey@beau.org Thu Jul 15 02:15:33 2004 From: jamey@beau.org (Jamey Fletcher) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:15:33 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <40F57454.9080100@math.unl.edu> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> <40F57454.9080100@math.unl.edu> Message-ID: <40F5DAB5.2090309@beau.org> Rex Dieter wrote: > Kurt Raschke wrote: > > > So, I have been evaluating the RHEL rebuild projects. However, I'm > > not sure if any of the three projects could be used to upgrade from > > RedHat 9, as I would really rather not reinstall these servers. > > Additionally, assuming there even is a viable upgrade path, then which > > RHEL rebuild project should I go with? > FYI, none of RHEL or clones officially support upgrading From RedHat > Linux. Some folks have been able to kludge it with apt/yum, but it's > not recommended or for the feint of heart. Actually, it's been done several times here at the Library - no, it's not "officially" supported, but there's an option to do it - but I don't remember what it is. The official no-upgrade from RH9 policy of RedHat is just them covering themselves against expensive support calls. A large number of the RedHat packages for RHEL3 are in fact identical to the packages for RH9. From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 15 02:18:18 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:18:18 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow X w/ nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 ??? [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <40F5BEA4.3040908@ifm-services.com> References: <40F5BEA4.3040908@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <40F5DB5A.6050301@ifm-services.com> !!!!! HOLY ##)(*&)#*$)&!@)*&)*& !!!! I'm completely dumbfounded at how stinking fast this is. I can see the difference simply typing in Mozilla. I didn't realize how slow the prior drivers were. It' really kind of spooky seeing the difference. While unsettling, I'm not complaining at all. ;-) Thanks for the suggestions, Brad, John. Here's what I did: I downloaded the drivers from nvidia.com, installed, rebooted ... and panicked when the login screen came up solid grey. I thought the machine had locked up. Having some deadlines, a dead machine is the *last* thing I need right now! After some more panicking and tail-chasing trying to get the machine to boot to init level 3 [I don't know how to use grub], I finally booted my laptop and discovered that I could ssh in. :* [insert big sigh of relief] Not until this point did I realize that if I really was stuck I could always whip out the Knoppix CD and undo the changes to the X config file. *duh* OK, that deadline is really bothering me! After a lot of reading the README and fiddling (and sweating!) I made an educated guess and added to the Device section: Option "NvAG" "1" and voil�! It came up fine. I actually sat there staring at the login screen, not realizing that it was actually working. My brain was saying, "now what?" Once again, thank you Brad and John! -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From kbohling@birddog.com Thu Jul 15 02:29:07 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:29:07 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow X w/ nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 ??? [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <40F5DB5A.6050301@ifm-services.com> References: <40F5BEA4.3040908@ifm-services.com> <40F5DB5A.6050301@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <20040715012906.GE26368@hawk.birddog.com> On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 07:18:18PM -0600, James Knowles wrote: > I downloaded the drivers from nvidia.com, installed, rebooted ... and > panicked when the login screen came up solid grey. I thought the machine > had locked up. Having some deadlines, a dead machine is the *last* thing > I need right now! > > After some more panicking and tail-chasing trying to get the machine to > boot to init level 3 [I don't know how to use grub], I finally booted my > laptop and discovered that I could ssh in. :* [insert big sigh of > relief] Not until this point did I realize that if I really was stuck I > could always whip out the Knoppix CD and undo the changes to the X > config file. *duh* OK, that deadline is really bothering me! > That's curious, if your X isn't working, within about 10-15 seconds a screen should come up that is grey with blue text if I remember correctly asking you if you'd like to shutdown X. It will attempt to restart 5 times if I remember correctly. If it restarts too many times too quickly it gives you the option to exit. Prior to this, I used to just keep my machines in runlevel 3 and just log in and do an "init 5" as root and log out. Thanks, Kirby PS: Press "e" at the grub screen, type single or emergency at the end of the line that starts with "kernel". If you type single, you'll get a root prompt immediatly after rc.sysinit finishes running (I think). If you put in emergency, I'm reasonable sure you get control pretty much right after the root filesystem gets mounted (and not even fsck'ed). None of the other filesystems get mounted or fsck'ed if I remember. It's the one you use when you need to get control of the machine without waiting for the fsck to finish. At either prompt, type exit and the shutdown scripts should run and reboot the machine. From jmorris@beau.org Thu Jul 15 02:44:35 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:44:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Kurt Raschke wrote: > So, I have been evaluating the RHEL rebuild projects. However, I'm > not sure if any of the three projects could be used to upgrade from > RedHat 9, as I would really rather not reinstall these servers. > Additionally, assuming there even is a viable upgrade path, then which > RHEL rebuild project should I go with? I had success upgrading from RH7.3 to WBEL3, but I did have to manually fix several glitches. Still much better than installing everything from scratch. So I'd say if your UNIX/Linux skills are above average you will probably not run into anything you can't overcome. If all you have are newly minted RHCEs and MCSEs trying to learn, better make arrangements for a good UNIXhead to be on call in case you get stuck. And of course a FULL backup should go without saying. I migrated to a new machine at the same time, which gave me the warm fuzzy feeling that if I couldn't get the new box going before the deadline I could always just plug the network cable back into the old one and punch the power button. As for which rebuild, they all seem to be fairly similar. The differences are subtle: With WhiteBox I'm trying to stay as close as I can to RHEL3, but think that having it self host is important also. I just think an Open Source OS should be self hosting; what good is the source if it won't build? One benefit of this is that if I disappear it shouldn't be hard for anyone with a working WBEL installation to rebuild errata that will match. Tao appears to have went to a lot more effort to make their rebuild an exact copy, examining each package and trying to determine if it was built on RH9 or RHEL and recreating that environment to rebuild that package in. Pro: more exact clone. Con: harder to build your own packages should the need arise. Centos is a side project at the cAos project, I get the impression it is something to ship while they get the cAos distribution up to "enterprise" quality. Haven't dug too deep into their build philosophy. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 15 03:04:09 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:04:09 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow X w/ nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 ??? [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <20040715012906.GE26368@hawk.birddog.com> References: <40F5BEA4.3040908@ifm-services.com> <40F5DB5A.6050301@ifm-services.com> <20040715012906.GE26368@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: <40F5E619.6070903@ifm-services.com> >That's curious, if your X isn't working, > Yeah. That's what I expected, too. The X process was running, but the screen was pooched. Aparently X thought everything was fine. I suspect that there's some goofiness with the mobo's AGP that makes it *almost* work. Setting the NvAGP option to "1" uses nvidia's AGP code instead. Also, thanks for the grub info. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Thu Jul 15 03:36:28 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:36:28 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Odd window drag behaviour In-Reply-To: <1089775946.27080.77.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> References: <1089775946.27080.77.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> Message-ID: <40F5EDAC.4040900@dynacomp.net> I agree that keeping 100% compatible with RHEL is very important. But why not take it one step further? If people are maitaining their own "upgraded" versions of packages why not create a repository where they can upload their rpms for other people to use? I think it very would be useful to have Apt, Subversion just to name few in WBEL. Of course, all this in a clearly marked repository and disabled by default. I mean, that's what the "extras" folder is for on the mirrors right :-) Andy Alex Tkachenko wrote: >On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 17:51, John Morris wrote: > > >>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Alex Tkachenko wrote: >> >> >> >>>It has a patch for RHEL version of metacity package - I have it >>>locally applied until it gets its way into the official update. >>> >>> >>Ok, this one bugs me enough I'm wondering if it justifies pushing up a >>patched version of metacity instead of waiting for RedHat to get around to >>it in U3. I know I'll be adding this patch to my own copies, but should >>it go into the mainline? It would mark a departure from tracking RH >>exactly and that worries me. >> >> >This is not the only problem with RHEL packages; I bet everybody comes >up with some sort of local repository sooner or later, but this is >exactly what it is: a local repository. The original goal is to keep the >main distribution (whitebox, centos, tao, etc) as close to the original >rhel, as possible, to make use of automatically distributed binary >updates and third-party software. Believe me, once you start fixing >packages yourself, you won't stop, and a year later you may find >yourself maintaining your own distro. The original compatibility, so >valuable because of the above reasons will be lost somewhere down the >road. > >So my advice - keep all the fixed packages clearly separated, and be >ready to restore the original set should you need it (especially true in >corporate environment). If you really need something more decent - go >for Fedora. > >Have a nice day, >Alex > >_______________________________________________ >Whitebox-users mailing list >Whitebox-users@beau.org >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > From alex@ingrian.com Thu Jul 15 07:58:07 2004 From: alex@ingrian.com (Alex Tkachenko) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:58:07 -0700 Subject: OT Re: [WBEL-users] Odd window drag behaviour In-Reply-To: <1089775946.27080.77.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> References: <1089775946.27080.77.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> Message-ID: <1089874687.14683.21.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> John, I just have realized that I was replying to the original maintainer of the Whitebox Linux. It looks silly to explain you the goals of the project :) My sincere apologies for that. But I still think, that if you going to introduce the fixes yum channel, let it be the separate channel, do not merge the fixes into the mainstream (i.e. .../os/RedHat/RPMS) this won't lead to anything good. I actually was doing this with RHL 7.3, and end up with terrible mix of 7.3, Fedora, Rawhide, Ximian and everything in between. Guess what - my users can't install anything off the Net, and I have to recompile the software for them and also track every damn piece I have back-ported. And this is on top of other responsibilities I have. So the bottom line - the fixes (or extras) channel is a big commitment, although lots of users may benefit from that. The more I work with RHEL3 the more missed pieces I find. As usual, RedHat appears to be very conservative, and have excluded everything which may affect the overall system stability. In this light I can't understand, what is wrong with, i.e, Tripwire? :) On the other hand, since the (if I am not mistaken) rhl80 the MrProject segfaults on loading hierarchical projects, and that is a two line fix - I won't believe nobody hit that but me (in planner, included with fc2 the error does not seem to be present). Have a great day, Alex On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 20:32, Alex Tkachenko wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 17:51, John Morris wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Alex Tkachenko wrote: > > > > > It has a patch for RHEL version of metacity package - I have it > > > locally applied until it gets its way into the official update. > > > > Ok, this one bugs me enough I'm wondering if it justifies pushing up a > > patched version of metacity instead of waiting for RedHat to get around to > > it in U3. I know I'll be adding this patch to my own copies, but should > > it go into the mainline? It would mark a departure from tracking RH > > exactly and that worries me. > This is not the only problem with RHEL packages; I bet everybody comes > up with some sort of local repository sooner or later, but this is > exactly what it is: a local repository. The original goal is to keep the > main distribution (whitebox, centos, tao, etc) as close to the original > rhel, as possible, to make use of automatically distributed binary > updates and third-party software. Believe me, once you start fixing > packages yourself, you won't stop, and a year later you may find > yourself maintaining your own distro. The original compatibility, so > valuable because of the above reasons will be lost somewhere down the > road. > > So my advice - keep all the fixed packages clearly separated, and be > ready to restore the original set should you need it (especially true in > corporate environment). If you really need something more decent - go > for Fedora. > > Have a nice day, > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From javanree@vanree.net Thu Jul 15 11:34:37 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:34:37 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL and Prism54-based wireless LAN Message-ID: <200407151234.37108.javanree@vanree.net> I needed some wireless LAN gear for my laptop. I did some checking and settled on a 3Com PCMCIA card based on the prism54 set as software for that is available at prism54.org Now looking at everything it looks like it might still not be too easy, as it seems that the current kernel(s) don't have support for firmware uploading. Has anybody gotten a prism54-based PCMCIA network card to work on Whitebox and if so, did it involve patching/recompiling the kernel or are there easier ways to do this? -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From joaofalcao@ig.com.br Thu Jul 15 12:02:36 2004 From: joaofalcao@ig.com.br (joaofalcao@ig.com.br) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:02:36 -0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: wbel and swat Message-ID: <20040715_110236_030496.joaofalcao@ig.com.br> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1089889356 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-description: Mail message body Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-disposition: inline /etc/xinetd.conf # swat is the Samba Web Administration Tool swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/swat swat # Simple configuration file for xinetd swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/swat swat # Some defaults, and include /etc/xinetd.d/ defaults { instances = 60 log_type = SYSLOG authpriv log_on_success = HOST PID log_on_failure = HOST cps = 25 30 } includedir /etc/xinetd.d /etc/xinetd.d/swat # default: off # description: SWAT is the Samba Web Admin Tool. Use swat \ # to configure your Samba server. To use SWAT, \ # connect to port 901 with your favorite web browser. service swat { disable = no port = 901 socket_type = stream wait = no only_from = 127.0.0.1 user = root server = /usr/sbin/swat log_on_failure += USERID } _________________________________________________________________________________ Quer mais velocidade? S� com o acesso Aditivado iG, a velocidade que voc� quer na hora que voc� precisa. Clique aqui: http://www.acessoaditivado.ig.com.br --Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1089889356-- From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Jul 15 12:50:40 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 06:50:40 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow X w/ nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 ??? [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <40F5E619.6070903@ifm-services.com> References: <40F5BEA4.3040908@ifm-services.com> <40F5DB5A.6050301@ifm-services.com> <20040715012906.GE26368@hawk.birddog.com> <40F5E619.6070903@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <1089892240.19865.24.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-scPFqyUSoRdSoXX+54Js Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 21:04, James Knowles wrote: > >That's curious, if your X isn't working, > > > > Yeah. That's what I expected, too. The X process was running, but the > screen was pooched. Aparently X thought everything was fine. I suspect > that there's some goofiness with the mobo's AGP that makes it *almost* > work. Setting the NvAGP option to "1" uses nvidia's AGP code instead. > > > Also, thanks for the grub info. That motherboard board (MSI K7N2 Delta) has an NVIDIA Nforce2 chipset ... so if you don't have the kernel-unsupported package installed (or haven't rebuilt your kernel), then the Nforce2 driver for agpgart is not installed. You bypassed that with the NvAGP option ... which uses Nvidia's agpgart installed with the driver software. For anyone else having this problem, I created a guide to help install the NVIDIA drivers on NFORCE2 motherboards for WBEL/CentOS/TaoLinux in response to some problems people were having on the CentOS mailing list a few weeks ago: http://www.hughesjr.com/content/view/34/2/Site_News Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-scPFqyUSoRdSoXX+54Js Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 21:04, James Knowles wrote:

>That's curious, if your X isn't working, 
>

Yeah. That's what I expected, too. The X process was running, but the 
screen was pooched. Aparently X thought everything was fine. I suspect 
that there's some goofiness with the mobo's AGP that makes it *almost* 
work. Setting the NvAGP option to "1" uses nvidia's AGP code instead.


Also, thanks for the grub info.

That motherboard board (MSI K7N2 Delta) has an NVIDIA Nforce2 chipset ... so if you don't have the kernel-unsupported package installed (or haven't rebuilt your kernel), then the Nforce2 driver for agpgart is not installed. You bypassed that with the NvAGP option ... which uses Nvidia's agpgart installed with the driver software.

For anyone else having this problem, I created a guide to help install the NVIDIA drivers on NFORCE2 motherboards for WBEL/CentOS/TaoLinux in response to some problems people were having on the CentOS mailing list a few weeks ago:

http://www.hughesjr.com/content/view/34/2/Site_News




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-scPFqyUSoRdSoXX+54Js-- From adrians@turnkey.web.za Thu Jul 15 13:25:31 2004 From: adrians@turnkey.web.za (Adrian Snyman) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:25:31 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Kernel 2.6.x Message-ID: <200407151425.31281.adrians@turnkey.web.za> We are currently running kernel 2.4.21-15.ELsmp The system after our upgrade from Redhat 7.3 has been much better in that our load average has reduced by around 10-12% .. However, we currently use IBM Universe 10.1.1, and we are picking up a problem on printing. It seems as though the universe spooler is pausing for about 10-15 seconds before releasing, and lpd takes t from there without problems. Now this pause becomes significant when we are processing about 10000 documents a day. This was not happening on RH 7.3, and despite tuning additional parameters for the Whitebox kernel (listed below) kernel.msgmnb =16384 kernel.msgmni =1024 kernel.msgmax =65536 kernel.sem =250 256000 32 1024 there is STILL a lag. I now want to see if kernel 2.6 does not maybe offer something that 2.4 is not doing. So where do I start ? IE: I need the latest 2.6 kernel for RHEL/clones .. but it's not on the CD. Where could I possibly download this from ?? Are there additional things that need to be added ? Any Gotchas I should be aware of ? Thanks, -- Regards, Adrian Snyman Tel: (083)647-5299 /* Beat Me, Whip Me, Make me use Windows !! */ From Bevis.Peters@ftid.com Thu Jul 15 15:18:01 2004 From: Bevis.Peters@ftid.com (Bevis.Peters@ftid.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:18:01 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel Message-ID: I've been using WBEL on various machines since it came out with no problems. I recently bought a samsung x05 laptop, and put WBEL on that. it pretty much worked out of the box (http://www.jackhollow.co.uk/wbel_samsungx05.html), but the 2.4.21 kernel has no ACPI support. so after some investigation, i pulled the 2.4.26 kernel and built that, and got acpi working. but now X doesn't work! using the same config thats works if i boot to 2.4.21, typing 'startx' on 2.4.26 gives me a blank screen. ctrl+alt+f1 gets back to the console and back to the command prompt. X is reporting no errors at all (ie nothing EE); i just get an "XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server" in the console. this is with an 'official' WB XFree86 4.3.0. any thoughts from anyone? do i need to rebuild XFree with the new kernel? - Bevis ----------------------------------------- The information in this e-mail is confidential. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any review, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. From Philip.R.Schaffner@NASA.gov Thu Jul 15 15:46:05 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner@NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:46:05 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <40F5DAB5.2090309@beau.org> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> <40F57454.9080100@math.unl.edu> <40F5DAB5.2090309@beau.org> Message-ID: <1089902765.18421.157.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 20:15 -0500, Jamey Fletcher wrote: > Actually, it's been done several times here at the Library - no, it's > not "officially" supported, but there's an option to do it - but I > don't remember what it is. The magic invocation on the command line at the boot prompt is "upgradeany". On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 10:56 -0500, William Hooper wrote: > Dusan Vujosevic said: > > Hi, > > > > I can't seem to get the option to upgrade my RH 8.0 installation. > > Redhat doesn't support upgrading RHL to RHEL, therefore WBEL doesn't. > However, some people have had luck using the "upgradeany" switch to the > installer. Take backups first, YMMV, you get to keep both pieces, etc. > > https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/x8664-multi-install-guide/s1-upgrade-begin.html > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/yuz6 Did a system this way, and the upgrade worked, but ended up doing a clean install anyway to get rid of accumulated junk from a long upgrade and 3rd party package install heritage. My $0.02 is to, if possible make room for a clean install by freeing space or adding a disk while keeping the capability to dual-boot the old installation. Can then mount the old partitions on the new system to facilitate migration of configuration files, etc. Would also have an on-line backup/duplicate of home directories if possible. Many changes to user configurations are not reversible if you have to fall back. Phil From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Thu Jul 15 16:05:04 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2740.12.29.16.103.1089903904.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Bevis.Peters@ftid.com said: > I've been using WBEL on various machines since it came out with no > problems. I recently bought a samsung x05 laptop, and put WBEL on that. it > pretty much worked out of the box > (http://www.jackhollow.co.uk/wbel_samsungx05.html), but the 2.4.21 kernel > has no ACPI support. so after some investigation, i pulled the 2.4.26 > kernel and built that, and got acpi working. but now X doesn't work! using > the same config thats works if i boot to 2.4.21, typing 'startx' on 2.4.26 > gives me a blank screen. It looks like you are using Binary video drivers, so they might need to be reinstalled for the new kernel. Intel doesn't make it clear, but since they want you to have kernel-source installed, I assume that it does something kernel specific. The other possiblity is that you are seeing an issue with the kernel.org kernel not having NPTL. -- William Hooper From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 15 17:33:13 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:33:13 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow X w/ nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 ??? [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <1089892240.19865.24.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <40F5BEA4.3040908@ifm-services.com> <40F5DB5A.6050301@ifm-services.com> <20040715012906.GE26368@hawk.birddog.com> <40F5E619.6070903@ifm-services.com> <1089892240.19865.24.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <40F6B1C9.60901@ifm-services.com> > NVIDIA Nforce2 chipset ... kernel-unsupported package Ahh... I remember having to do that to get the card to work. > I created a guide Way to go! If only Google had turned that up, I wouldn't have been panicking! BTW, I did a quick perusal of your site. It's a goldmine of information. Thanks for making it available. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From Bevis.Peters@ftid.com Thu Jul 15 17:49:28 2004 From: Bevis.Peters@ftid.com (Bevis.Peters@ftid.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:49:28 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel Message-ID: I tried rebuilding the Intel 855 drivers from source, but no change. The last line in the XFree.0.log it shows is: (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 whereas the working version with the 2.4.21 kernel gets past that to: (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected ... unfortunately i'm somewhat out of my depth here. I don't know how to find out if my kernel has NPTL, or how to compile it in if it doesn't! - Bevis "William Hooper" Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org 15/07/2004 16:05 To: whitebox-users@beau.org cc: Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel Bevis.Peters@ftid.com said: > I've been using WBEL on various machines since it came out with no > problems. I recently bought a samsung x05 laptop, and put WBEL on that. it > pretty much worked out of the box > (http://www.jackhollow.co.uk/wbel_samsungx05.html), but the 2.4.21 kernel > has no ACPI support. so after some investigation, i pulled the 2.4.26 > kernel and built that, and got acpi working. but now X doesn't work! using > the same config thats works if i boot to 2.4.21, typing 'startx' on 2.4.26 > gives me a blank screen. It looks like you are using Binary video drivers, so they might need to be reinstalled for the new kernel. Intel doesn't make it clear, but since they want you to have kernel-source installed, I assume that it does something kernel specific. The other possiblity is that you are seeing an issue with the kernel.org kernel not having NPTL. -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users ----------------------------------------- The information in this e-mail is confidential. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any review, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 15 18:02:14 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:02:14 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Kernel 2.6.x In-Reply-To: <200407151425.31281.adrians@turnkey.web.za> References: <200407151425.31281.adrians@turnkey.web.za> Message-ID: <40F6B896.5090000@ifm-services.com> >2.6 kernel for RHEL/clones > These two don't mix well. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From Philip.R.Schaffner@NASA.gov Thu Jul 15 18:17:57 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner@NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:17:57 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Kernel 2.6.x In-Reply-To: <200407151425.31281.adrians@turnkey.web.za> References: <200407151425.31281.adrians@turnkey.web.za> Message-ID: <1089911877.18421.189.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 14:25 +0200, Adrian Snyman wrote: > there is STILL a lag. I now want to see if kernel 2.6 does not maybe > offer > something that 2.4 is not doing. Red Hat has backported many features of 2.6 to 2.4 but there are still some reported features of 2.6 that people might want. Search the list archives. > So where do I start ? > IE: I need the latest 2.6 kernel for RHEL/clones .. but it's not on > the CD. > Where could I possibly download this from ?? > Are there additional things that need to be added ? > Any Gotchas I should be aware of ? Again, lots of stuff on 2.6 in the list archives, for instance... On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 23:48 +0200, Milan Ker�l�ger wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 09:11:21PM -0600, Mike Hillyer wrote: > > Hi All; > > > > Is it possible to upgrade to kernel 2.6 via yum? > > Try this section to your /etc/yum.conf > > [kernel-2.6] > name=Kenel 2.6 from Arjan van de Ven > baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/ Will need to also upgrade modutils, glibc, and possibly gcc and other packages if you want to rebuild the 2.6 kernel, and will loose backwards compatibility. May need to use "rpm --force ..." due to version conflicts. Rather than mess up your nice stable WBEL system with 2.6 upgrades, might want to consider going to FC2. Phil From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Thu Jul 15 18:26:33 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4968.12.29.16.103.1089912393.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Bevis.Peters@ftid.com said: > I tried rebuilding the Intel 855 drivers from source, but no change. > The last line in the XFree.0.log it shows is: > (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > whereas the working version with the 2.4.21 kernel gets past that to: (II) > I810(0): VESA BIOS detected > ... > > > unfortunately i'm somewhat out of my depth here. I don't know how to > find out if my kernel has NPTL, or how to compile it in if it doesn't! If you got it from kernel.org and it is 2.4, it doesn't have NPTL. You would have to do a lot of work to get Red Hat's NPTL patches to integrate. I think it would be safe to argue that going to a 2.6 kernel would be easier. At that point, though, you have to ask yourself if you really want WBEL or a more "leading edge" distro. To ammend my first response, I meant to say that "another possiblity is NPTL", not the "only" other possiblity. I do know that RHEL is heavily geared toward NPTL, so other things will most likely break even if you do get a kernel.org 2.4 kernel to work with X. -- William Hooper From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 15 19:48:50 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:48:50 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables Not Working Message-ID: <000d01c46a9c$62276d50$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Hi Everyone, I'm having a problem with my iptables not working. Below is my iptables file. If someone could show me what it is I am doing wrong I would surely appreciate it. This is running on WBEL 3.0 and it is my mail server. I have spammers sending directly to it and need to drop those packets.... Thank you, Ed *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT If I run: service iptables start I receive this error: # service iptables start Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed [FAILED] It doesn't like the COMMIT line. If I remove the COMMIT. I see this when start iptables: # service iptables start Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that the tables loaded none of the rules show up: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 15 20:29:53 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:29:53 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] one more time with proper formatting to show actual table Message-ID: <001901c46aa2$1adbdfc0$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C46A67.6E7D07C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I'm having a problem with my iptables not working. Below is my iptables file. If someone could show me what it is I am doing wrong I would surely appreciate it. This is running on WBEL 3.0 and it is my mail server. I have spammers sending directly to it and need to drop those packets.... Thank you, Ed *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -mstate --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT If I run: service iptables start I receive this error: # service iptables start Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed [FAILED] It doesn't like the COMMIT line. If I remove the COMMIT. I see this when start iptables: # service iptables start Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that the tables loaded none of the rules show up: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C46A67.6E7D07C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Everyone,

I'm having a problem with my iptables not working. Below is my = iptables file. If someone could show me what it is I am doing wrong I would = surely appreciate it. This is = running on WBEL 3.0 and it is my mail server. I have spammers sending directly to it and need to drop those = packets....

Thank you,

*filter

:INPUT = ACCEPT [0:0]

:FORWARD= = ACCEPT [0:0]

:OUTPUT<= font size=3D1 face=3DArial> = ACCEPT [0:0]

-A INPUT -i lo -j = ACCEPT

-A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP

-A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP

-A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP

-A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP

-A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP

-A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP

-A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP

-A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP

-A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport = 80 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -mstate --state = NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport = 25 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport = 106 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport = 443 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport = 995 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport = 995 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -j = REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited =

COMMIT

If I = run: service iptables start I receive this = error:

# service iptables start

Flushing = firewall rules: [ = OK ]

Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ]

Unloading iptables = modules: [ = OK ]

Applying iptables = firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed = [FAILED]

It doesn't like the COMMIT line.

If I remove the = COMMIT. I see this when start iptables:

# service iptables start

Flushing = firewall rules: [ = OK ]

Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ]

Unloading iptables = modules: [ = OK ]

Applying iptables = firewall rules: [ = OK ]

And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that = the tables loaded none of the rules show up:

Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K = bytes)

pkts bytes target prot opt in = out source = destination &nbs= p;

Chain FORWARD (policy = ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)

pkts bytes target prot opt in = out source = destination &nbs= p;

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K = bytes)

pkts bytes target prot opt in = out source = destination

------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C46A67.6E7D07C0-- From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Thu Jul 15 21:27:27 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] one more time with proper formatting to show actual table In-Reply-To: <001901c46aa2$1adbdfc0$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <001901c46aa2$1adbdfc0$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <2269.12.29.16.103.1089923247.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Ed Morrison said: Is this a direct copy-paste? > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP > -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -mstate --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT ^^^^^^ Is this typo in the original? > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > COMMIT -- William Hooper From kurt@raschke.net Thu Jul 15 21:54:31 2004 From: kurt@raschke.net (Kurt Raschke) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:54:31 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> Message-ID: <20040715205430.GA11167@raschke.net> Many thanks to those who responded to my initial query. Unfortunately, when I first looked at WBEL, I neglected to take into account the fact that one of the servers I was going to run WBEL on will soon be upgraded to new hardware with SATA drives. I have read that Linux SATA support is best in the 2.6 kernel series, and given the recent exchange on this list regarding compiling a 2.6 kernel to run on WBEL, I suspect that I will probably be better off with Fedora Core 2. I'll certainly keep WBEL in mind in the future, but I think for now FC2 may serve my needs better. -Kurt From ekg@tricity.wsu.edu Thu Jul 15 22:10:17 2004 From: ekg@tricity.wsu.edu (Ed) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:10:17 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables Not Working In-Reply-To: <000d01c46a9c$62276d50$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000d01c46a9c$62276d50$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <40F6F2B9.7030009@tricity.wsu.edu> Ed Morrison wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm having a problem with my iptables not working. Below is my iptables > file. If someone could show me what it is I am doing wrong I would > surely appreciate it. This is running on WBEL 3.0 and it is my mail > server. I have spammers sending directly to it and need to drop those > packets.... > > > Thank you, > > Ed I usually find it easier to put my iptables commands in a script and run the script to setup the firewall. It usually gives more informative error messages that way. :-) The only other suggestion is to try DROP instead of REJECT in line 22. Ed > > > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP > -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > COMMIT > > > If I run: service iptables start I receive this error: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed > [FAILED] > > It doesn't like the COMMIT line. > > If I remove the COMMIT. I see this when start iptables: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] > > > > And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that the tables loaded > none of the rules show up: > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 15 22:27:35 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:27:35 -0700 Subject: FW: [WBEL-users] one more time with proper formatting to show actual table Message-ID: <003501c46ab2$8f8fdeb0$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> William, It is not in the original...repasted below: *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:27 PM To: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] one more time with proper formatting to show actual table Ed Morrison said: Is this a direct copy-paste? > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP > -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -mstate --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT ^^^^^^ Is this typo in the original? > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > COMMIT -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Jul 15 22:22:43 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:22:43 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Kernel 2.6.x In-Reply-To: <200407151425.31281.adrians@turnkey.web.za> References: <200407151425.31281.adrians@turnkey.web.za> Message-ID: <1089926563.27488.7.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-wvDDjqn2xf3ycEfJkf0y Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 07:25, Adrian Snyman wrote: > I now want to see if kernel 2.6 does not maybe offer > something that 2.4 is not doing. So where do I start ? Also understand that RedHat doesn't support this on RHEL. Even recompiling the provided kernel voids your tech support, let alone using the 2.6 kernel. They won't even answer questions until you reinstall the stock kernel. WBEL isn't RHEL and there isn't any tech support, so obviously you can do what you want ... but with RedHat products, changing the kernel also requires changing other things ... and may cause other packages (like glibc) to function incorrectly. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-wvDDjqn2xf3ycEfJkf0y Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 07:25, Adrian Snyman wrote:

I now want to see if kernel 2.6 does not maybe offer 
something that 2.4 is not doing. So where do I start ?

Also understand that RedHat doesn't support this on RHEL. Even recompiling the provided kernel voids your tech support, let alone using the 2.6 kernel. They won't even answer questions until you reinstall the stock kernel.

WBEL isn't RHEL and there isn't any tech support, so obviously you can do what you want ... but with RedHat products, changing the kernel also requires changing other things ... and may cause other packages (like glibc) to function incorrectly.

Johnny Hughes
HughesJR.com

--=-wvDDjqn2xf3ycEfJkf0y-- From gri0941@exchange.uta.edu Thu Jul 15 23:01:40 2004 From: gri0941@exchange.uta.edu (Ganeshram Iyer) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:01:40 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL and SWAT In-Reply-To: <1089541616.5230.38.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762457@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40EC095B.7070901@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <40F0C5A2.1020607@exchange.uta.edu> <1089541616.5230.38.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <40F6FEC4.7060705@exchange.uta.edu> I never got SWAT to work. I just gave up and webt to webmin at least for now. Spending too much time on it. Thanks for everyones help in trying to solve my problem. I really appreciate it. Thanks Ganesh Johnny Hughes wrote: > On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 23:44, Ganeshram Iyer wrote: > >>/Hello all, >> >>I was wondering if samba-swat is installed with WBEL server install. I >>dont remember selecting it when performing the installation? I am a bit >>of a newbie with Linux so wondering what I need to do to verify SWAT >>install and how to run. I followed some directions that I found on >>configuring it using the xinetd as well the swat file and then tried to >>connect to SWAT using //_http://localhost:901_ (also tried >>_http://127.0.0.1:901_ along with a few other combos, server name, DHCP >>address etc...) but I get the message that "unable to connect to site at >>port 901". I even turned off the firewall completely and also shutdown >>iptables in all 3,4,5 states. anybody have any links to HOWTOs or SWAT >>un/official manuals? I would really appreciate the help. >>/ >> > To see if samba-swat is installed do this: > > rpm -qa | grep -i samba > > If you don't see samba-swat, it is not installed. If you have yum > working ... use this command to get samba-swat: > > yum install samba-swat > > Here are a couple links for swat: > > http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html#id2508588 > > http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html > > Johnny Hughes _HughesJR.com_ > > > > From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 15 23:29:20 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:29:20 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables Not Working In-Reply-To: <40F6F2B9.7030009@tricity.wsu.edu> Message-ID: <004401c46abb$2c8bbb00$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Thanks Ed. I got it going with this script: #!/bin/bash # Make sure iptables module is loaded insmod ip_tables # Flush any existing rules iptables -F INPUT # Block iptables -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP # Allow other traffic # iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 143 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT #Drop all other traffic # iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -----Original Message----- From: Ed [mailto:ekg@tricity.wsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:10 PM To: Ed Morrison Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Iptables Not Working Ed Morrison wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm having a problem with my iptables not working. Below is my iptables > file. If someone could show me what it is I am doing wrong I would > surely appreciate it. This is running on WBEL 3.0 and it is my mail > server. I have spammers sending directly to it and need to drop those > packets.... > > > Thank you, > > Ed I usually find it easier to put my iptables commands in a script and run the script to setup the firewall. It usually gives more informative error messages that way. :-) The only other suggestion is to try DROP instead of REJECT in line 22. Ed > > > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP > -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > COMMIT > > > If I run: service iptables start I receive this error: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed > [FAILED] > > It doesn't like the COMMIT line. > > If I remove the COMMIT. I see this when start iptables: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] > > > > And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that the tables loaded > none of the rules show up: > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From wbl@joshwelch.com Fri Jul 16 03:36:21 2004 From: wbl@joshwelch.com (Josh Welch) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:36:21 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables Not Working In-Reply-To: <000d01c46a9c$62276d50$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000d01c46a9c$62276d50$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <1089945381.40f73f25619b4@joshwelch.com> Quoting Ed Morrison : > Hi Everyone, > > I'm having a problem with my iptables not working. Below is my iptables > file. If someone could show me what it is I am doing wrong I would > surely appreciate it. This is running on WBEL 3.0 and it is my mail > server. I have spammers sending directly to it and need to drop those > packets.... > > > Thank you, > > Ed > > > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP > -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > COMMIT > > > If I run: service iptables start I receive this error: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed > [FAILED] > > It doesn't like the COMMIT line. > > If I remove the COMMIT. I see this when start iptables: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] > > > > And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that the tables loaded > none of the rules show up: > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > It's not so much the COMMIT as it is some small syntax error within the rules. They look good to me, but apparently not. Might I suggest entering in each of your rules at the command line. If one of them is wrong, you'll find out which one that way. If they are all entered successfully, you can use iptables-save to generate a rules file for you. Josh From danieljs@knology.net Fri Jul 16 03:42:03 2004 From: danieljs@knology.net (Daniel J. Summers) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:42:03 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Athena Message-ID: <40F7407B.6090802@knology.net> Good evening. Does anyone have experience running the Athena library management system under WBEL? It's Windows-based, so I imagine it would need to run through wine or similar "emulator"-type software. I'm looking at putting together 1-5 computers with the software (1 big-daddy-server computer, 4 slender clients), and the best price I can find on the configuration we need is one where I buy the parts at the best prices and assemble them myself. I've found a genuine full-blown new WinXP Pro, in the box, for $129 (which is a great price), but if this software will work under WBEL, that's $129 I won't have to spend (x5 = $645 - I could build a 6th computer for that). Since WBEL is the product of a library, I figured it was worth a shot to ask the question. Thanks... :) -- *Daniel J. Summers* E-mail - danieljs@knology.net *Web Sites:* Personal - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel Sunday School - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/sundayschool My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html From ivan@pechorin.com Fri Jul 16 05:31:11 2004 From: ivan@pechorin.com (Ivan Pechorin) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:31:11 +0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <20040715205430.GA11167@raschke.net> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> <20040715205430.GA11167@raschke.net> Message-ID: <1089952271.4104.12.camel@notebook.home> Kurt Raschke wrote: > I have read that Linux SATA support is best in the 2.6 kernel series, > and given the recent exchange on this list regarding compiling a 2.6 > kernel to run on WBEL, I suspect that I will probably be better off > with Fedora Core 2. Kurt, Redhat backported lots of features from 2.6 series to its kernels. SATA support is definitely among these features. I use to run WBEL on SATA drive for about six months now without having any problem. From jafar00@wanadoo.fr Fri Jul 16 07:54:40 2004 From: jafar00@wanadoo.fr (jafar) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:54:40 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re:Iptables Not Working Message-ID: <1089960880.29172.2.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> Have you done "service iptables save" before starting iptables? -- Jafar Calley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ !tv D+ G e* h---- x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Registered Linux User #359623 http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org From kay.diederichs@uni-konstanz.de Fri Jul 16 08:57:17 2004 From: kay.diederichs@uni-konstanz.de (Kay Diederichs) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:57:17 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel In-Reply-To: <4968.12.29.16.103.1089912393.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <4968.12.29.16.103.1089912393.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <40F78A5D.4000907@uni-konstanz.de> William Hooper wrote: > Bevis.Peters@ftid.com said: > >> I tried rebuilding the Intel 855 drivers from source, but no change. The >> last line in the XFree.0.log it shows is: (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS >> segment is: 0xc000 whereas the working version with the 2.4.21 kernel gets >> past that to: (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected ... >> >> >> unfortunately i'm somewhat out of my depth here. I don't know how to find >> out if my kernel has NPTL, or how to compile it in if it doesn't! > > > If you got it from kernel.org and it is 2.4, it doesn't have NPTL. You would > have to do a lot of work to get Red Hat's NPTL patches to integrate. I think > it would be safe to argue that going to a 2.6 kernel would be easier. At > that point, though, you have to ask yourself if you really want WBEL or a > more "leading edge" distro. > > To ammend my first response, I meant to say that "another possiblity is > NPTL", not the "only" other possiblity. I do know that RHEL is heavily > geared toward NPTL, so other things will most likely break even if you do get > a kernel.org 2.4 kernel to work with X. > > To use a vanilla 2.4 kernel (which does not support NPTL) with WBEL/RHEL only involves: a) mv /lib/tls /lib/tls-dontuse # this is essential for X b) install the closed-source NVIDIA driver with --force-tls=classic a) needs to be repeated after a glibc update, so you might want to exclude glibc from being automatically updated by yum. I found b) to be necessary for k3b . Been running a cluster of ~12 machines like that without any issues. (I use a vanilla kernel patched with Mosix, NFS, and ACPI_TIMER for Asus A7M266-D) Kay From Bevis.Peters@ftid.com Fri Jul 16 10:22:00 2004 From: Bevis.Peters@ftid.com (Bevis.Peters@ftid.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:22:00 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel Message-ID: That worked! Fantastic, thanks very much! - Bevis Kay Diederichs Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org 16/07/2004 08:57 To: whitebox-users@beau.org cc: Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] X problems with 2.4.26 kernel To use a vanilla 2.4 kernel (which does not support NPTL) with WBEL/RHEL only involves: a) mv /lib/tls /lib/tls-dontuse # this is essential for X b) install the closed-source NVIDIA driver with --force-tls=classic a) needs to be repeated after a glibc update, so you might want to exclude glibc from being automatically updated by yum. I found b) to be necessary for k3b . Been running a cluster of ~12 machines like that without any issues. (I use a vanilla kernel patched with Mosix, NFS, and ACPI_TIMER for Asus A7M266-D) Kay _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users ----------------------------------------- The information in this e-mail is confidential. 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Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004 From ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com Fri Jul 16 14:37:03 2004 From: ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com (Alex Georgiev) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:37:03 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL Message-ID: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> Hi all, I want to move the company file server from gentoo to WBEL or other RHEL recompiled distro. The mother board is an old intel 820 desktop board with 512MB ram, Pentium III 500MHz. This server provides the following services for 15 windows/linux clients: oracle, samba, nfs, cvs, mail (smtp, pop3), dhcp, dns, http the average load is very, very low. Except upgrading to WBEL I want to do 2 additional things: 1. Setup a network CD burning software under UML We are using a separate machine for cd burning with webCDcreator, I would like to move the cd burning to the file server, but as some times cd burning makes the kernel panic, I think that I should setup User Mode Linux on the file server and provide this service under UML, expecting that a kernel panic in the UML, will not affect the underlying WBEL file server. I intent to put a CD writer device and a CDROM device on separate channels of the onboard IDE controller. 2. Setup a software Raid 0 (mirror) with two 200GB disks using an additional PCI IDE controller, The one I can found here is: EIO AP-1680 Ultra ATA/133 IDE RAID Controller Card http://www.ivmm.com/eio/products_ap1680.html with chip set http://siimage.cubik.com/products/sii0680.asp This one is a cheap RAID controller, but I intend to use it as a pure IDE controller, connect the two disks on separate channels, and set up a software mirror, on wich to install WBEL, user data and Oracle. I shall buy a new 450 Watt power unit for the box. I have not used either EIO AP-1680 controller, UML or software raid so far, and I will highly appreciate any comments and suggestions. Best regards. A. Georgiev From rninov@mailbg.com Fri Jul 16 15:16:57 2004 From: rninov@mailbg.com (Romeo Ninov) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:16:57 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> Message-ID: <40F7E359.1030406@mailbg.com> Alex Georgiev wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to move the company file server from gentoo to WBEL or > other RHEL recompiled distro. > > The mother board is an old intel 820 desktop board with 512MB ram, > Pentium III 500MHz. This server provides the following services for 15 > windows/linux clients: > > oracle, samba, nfs, cvs, mail (smtp, pop3), dhcp, dns, http > > the average load is very, very low. > Except upgrading to WBEL I want to do 2 additional things: > > 1. Setup a network CD burning software under UML > We are using a separate machine for cd burning with webCDcreator, > I would like to move the cd burning to the file server, but > as some times cd burning makes the kernel panic, I think that I should > setup > User Mode Linux on the file server and provide this service under UML, > expecting > that a kernel panic in the UML, will not affect the underlying WBEL > file server. I intent to put a CD writer device and a CDROM device on > separate channels of the onboard IDE controller. > > > 2. Setup a software Raid 0 (mirror) with two 200GB disks using an > additional PCI IDE controller, The one I can found here is: > > EIO AP-1680 Ultra ATA/133 IDE RAID Controller Card > > http://www.ivmm.com/eio/products_ap1680.html with chip > set http://siimage.cubik.com/products/sii0680.asp > > This one is a cheap RAID controller, but I intend to use it as a pure > IDE controller, connect the two disks on separate channels, > and set up a software mirror, on wich to install WBEL, user data and > Oracle. > Is I see (based on Your description) this is not so fast computer, so my idea is to try to start hardware mirror instead of software based. Some of drivers make raid to look like scsi disk!! If You use s/w mirror you can make it from install procedure (disk managment) or make this using LVM. Lash help you manage disk space > I shall buy a new 450 Watt power unit for the box. > > I have not used either EIO AP-1680 controller, UML or software raid so > far, > and I will highly appreciate any comments and suggestions. > > Best regards. > A. Georgiev > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From javanree@vanree.net Fri Jul 16 15:19:43 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:19:43 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> Message-ID: <200407161619.43698.javanree@vanree.net> On Friday 16 July 2004 15:37, Alex Georgiev wrote: > I want to move the company file server from gentoo to WBEL or > other RHEL recompiled distro. > > The mother board is an old intel 820 desktop board with 512MB ram, > Pentium III 500MHz. This server provides the following services for 15 > windows/linux clients: > > oracle, samba, nfs, cvs, mail (smtp, pop3), dhcp, dns, http > > the average load is very, very low. > Except upgrading to WBEL I want to do 2 additional things: > > 1. Setup a network CD burning software under UML > We are using a separate machine for cd burning with webCDcreator, > I would like to move the cd burning to the file server, but > as some times cd burning makes the kernel panic, I think that I should > setup User Mode Linux on the file server and provide this service under > UML, expecting that a kernel panic in the UML, will not affect the > underlying WBEL file server. I intent to put a CD writer device and a > CDROM device on separate channels of the onboard IDE controller. > > > 2. Setup a software Raid 0 (mirror) with two 200GB disks using an > additional PCI IDE controller, The one I can found here is: > > EIO AP-1680 Ultra ATA/133 IDE RAID Controller Card > > http://www.ivmm.com/eio/products_ap1680.html with chip set > http://siimage.cubik.com/products/sii0680.asp > > This one is a cheap RAID controller, but I intend to use it as a pure > IDE controller, connect the two disks on separate channels, > and set up a software mirror, on wich to install WBEL, user data and > Oracle. > > I shall buy a new 450 Watt power unit for the box. > > I have not used either EIO AP-1680 controller, UML or software raid so > far, and I will highly appreciate any comments and suggestions. Software RAID0 means higher load, and it's a risk to your data... I'd seriously consider looking for better alternatives (since you mention load is low, I can't imagine you need the performance of RAID0?) Better two partitions with both 200GB than one large 400GB with a much higher chance of failure.... I've been using software RAID1 on a Dell Poweredge 600S server for over a year now without any issues (still need to move it from RH7.3 to WBEL... some time in future) but ofcourse that's a somewhat different story (all SCSI setup, low loads, low disk I/O except for weekly backups) As for webCDcreator, I haven't seen any kernel panics or other issues with it yet, I'd say set up a testbox with WBEL first to see how it behaves, I installed it two months ago and it's seen extensive use without any issues so far. -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fri Jul 16 15:33:00 2004 From: erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Erik Williamson) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:33:00 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7E359.1030406@mailbg.com> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <40F7E359.1030406@mailbg.com> Message-ID: <40F7E71C.5040000@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> > Is I see (based on Your description) this is not so fast computer, so my > idea is to try to start hardware mirror instead of software based. Some Along these lines, does anyone know how much overhead Software RAID introduces? I took a look at the Hardware Compatibility List (http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/) and didn't see any mention of the RAID card you mentioned - if you have a spare machine to try it on first, I'd do that... You just never know... e. From ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com Fri Jul 16 15:37:27 2004 From: ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com (Alex Georgiev) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:37:27 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <200407161619.43698.javanree@vanree.net> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <200407161619.43698.javanree@vanree.net> Message-ID: <40F7E827.6040100@eurorisksystems.com> Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: > On Friday 16 July 2004 15:37, Alex Georgiev wrote: > > > Software RAID0 means higher load, and it's a risk to your data... I'd > seriously consider looking for better alternatives (since you mention load > is low, I can't imagine you need the performance of RAID0?) Better two > partitions with both 200GB than one large 400GB with a much higher chance > of failure.... > Ohhhh sorry, forgive my ignorance I meant I want to use disk mirroring, which is RAID1 I believe!!!!! > As for webCDcreator, I haven't seen any kernel panics or other issues with > it yet, I'd say set up a testbox with WBEL first to see how it behaves, I > installed it two months ago and it's seen extensive use without any issues > so far. Currently we do cd burning on a debian-stable box with 2.4.20-wolk4.14s.p2 kernel (WOLK patchset), using SCSI emulation with module ide_scsi. Sometimes this module makes the kernel panic, It depends on the CDROMs one uses. There is one particular brand which always panics the kernel. That is why I want to ensure my ass and move the whole process to UML From erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fri Jul 16 15:36:19 2004 From: erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Erik Williamson) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:36:19 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <200407161619.43698.javanree@vanree.net> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <200407161619.43698.javanree@vanree.net> Message-ID: <40F7E7E3.2020004@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> >>2. Setup a software Raid 0 (mirror) with two 200GB disks using an Wait a second - isn't Raid 0 == Striping, and Raid 1 == Mirroring? e. From ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com Fri Jul 16 15:50:08 2004 From: ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com (Alex Georgiev) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:50:08 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7E7E3.2020004@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <200407161619.43698.javanree@vanree.net> <40F7E7E3.2020004@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Message-ID: <40F7EB20.4070408@eurorisksystems.com> Erik Williamson wrote: > >>> 2. Setup a software Raid 0 (mirror) with two 200GB disks using an > > > Wait a second - isn't Raid 0 == Striping, and Raid 1 == Mirroring? > Yep, I meant Mirroring - RAID 1. Sorry. From ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com Fri Jul 16 15:50:41 2004 From: ageorgiev@eurorisksystems.com (Alex Georgiev) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:50:41 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7E359.1030406@mailbg.com> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <40F7E359.1030406@mailbg.com> Message-ID: <40F7EB41.7080409@eurorisksystems.com> Romeo Ninov wrote: > Alex Georgiev wrote: > >> >> The mother board is an old intel 820 desktop board with 512MB ram, >> Pentium III 500MHz. This server provides the following services for 15 >> windows/linux clients: >> oracle, samba, nfs, cvs, mail (smtp, pop3), dhcp, dns, http >> the average load is very, very low. >> > Is I see (based on Your description) this is not so fast computer, so my > idea is to try to start hardware mirror instead of software based. Some > of drivers make raid to look like scsi disk!! > If You use s/w mirror you can make it from install procedure (disk > managment) or make this using LVM. Lash help you manage disk space I have no option for a hardware raid - we are on a budjet. Unless someone is not driving the Oracle with a vicious query, (too bad that 512MB ram is the max for that board) the average load is very low. Even when oracle is working - the samba responce time is good. I am more afraid of CD burning slowing the whole machine - but we burn not more that 2 disks a week. From javanree@vanree.net Fri Jul 16 16:02:10 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:02:10 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7E827.6040100@eurorisksystems.com> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <200407161619.43698.javanree@vanree.net> <40F7E827.6040100@eurorisksystems.com> Message-ID: <20040716150210.GA318@mail.vanree.net> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 05:37:27PM +0300, Alex Georgiev wrote: > Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: > >On Friday 16 July 2004 15:37, Alex Georgiev wrote: > >Software RAID0 means higher load, and it's a risk to your data... I'd > >seriously consider looking for better alternatives (since you mention load > >is low, I can't imagine you need the performance of RAID0?) Better two > >partitions with both 200GB than one large 400GB with a much higher chance > >of failure.... > Ohhhh sorry, forgive my ignorance I meant I want to use > disk mirroring, which is RAID1 I believe!!!!! Phew :D > Currently we do cd burning on a debian-stable box with 2.4.20-wolk4.14s.p2 > kernel (WOLK patchset), using SCSI emulation with module ide_scsi. > Sometimes this module makes the kernel panic, It depends on the CDROMs > one uses. There is one particular brand which always panics the kernel. > That is why I want to ensure my ass and move the whole process to UML Ah ok, I've never used anything but SCSI CD-RW drives. -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From jamesk@ifm-services.com Fri Jul 16 18:42:01 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:42:01 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7E71C.5040000@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <40F7E359.1030406@mailbg.com> <40F7E71C.5040000@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Message-ID: <40F81369.4020702@ifm-services.com> > Along these lines, does anyone know how much overhead Software RAID > introduces? I'd like to counter the idea that soft RAID introduces a lot of overhead. I've been using it since it was first introduced into the kernel. It doesn't really add much overhead, even on the pokey 233MHz server (soft RAID-5) that's been in service since 233MHz Pentrium-II was the rage of the day. For old machines I expect a 5% increase in CPU overhead with IDE, lower with SCSI. The worst I ever saw was 15% CPU increase under bitter load and IDE drives. Of course, on modern multi-GHz processors, soft RAID hardly impacts the machine. Since soft RAID was stabilized in the kernel years ago, I've never seen it put data at risk, including the harshest loads. Since hard drives have become cheap, we've always run our workstations with soft RAID-1, which has saved our bacon more than once over the years. It costs more to slap in an extra hard drive, but it's cheaper than what it does to a business on the rare day when a HD decides to roll over and die. The worst case is when the HD takes out swap, the kernel panics, and we have to yank the cable to the offending drive. When there's a failure, we can wait until after hours to actually swap out the drive. Anaconda has a nice interface for setting up soft RAID during install. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From shackmaster@nerdshack.com Fri Jul 16 19:05:52 2004 From: shackmaster@nerdshack.com (Shackmaster) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 13:05:52 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <20040716170000.18876.79752.Mailman@library.beau.org> References: <20040716170000.18876.79752.Mailman@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <40F81900.6020300@nerdshack.com> I'd be curious to hear about anyone's experience with software RAID on a heavily load NAS server? I have been considering the deployment of a 6TB system, with dual opterons, runing a software based RAID 6. (WBEL of course.) Can anyone speak problems with this setup? Alternatives? http://www.nerdshack.com >From: Jan-Albert van Ree >To: whitebox-users@beau.org >Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:19:43 +0200 > >On Friday 16 July 2004 15:37, Alex Georgiev wrote: > > > >>I want to move the company file server from gentoo to WBEL or >>other RHEL recompiled distro. >> >>The mother board is an old intel 820 desktop board with 512MB ram, >>Pentium III 500MHz. This server provides the following services for 15 >>windows/linux clients: >> >> oracle, samba, nfs, cvs, mail (smtp, pop3), dhcp, dns, http >> >>the average load is very, very low. >>Except upgrading to WBEL I want to do 2 additional things: >> >>1. Setup a network CD burning software under UML >>We are using a separate machine for cd burning with webCDcreator, >>I would like to move the cd burning to the file server, but >>as some times cd burning makes the kernel panic, I think that I should >>setup User Mode Linux on the file server and provide this service under >>UML, expecting that a kernel panic in the UML, will not affect the >>underlying WBEL file server. I intent to put a CD writer device and a >>CDROM device on separate channels of the onboard IDE controller. >> >> >>2. Setup a software Raid 0 (mirror) with two 200GB disks using an >>additional PCI IDE controller, The one I can found here is: >> >> EIO AP-1680 Ultra ATA/133 IDE RAID Controller Card >> >> http://www.ivmm.com/eio/products_ap1680.html with chip set >>http://siimage.cubik.com/products/sii0680.asp >> >>This one is a cheap RAID controller, but I intend to use it as a pure >>IDE controller, connect the two disks on separate channels, >>and set up a software mirror, on wich to install WBEL, user data and >>Oracle. >> >>I shall buy a new 450 Watt power unit for the box. >> >>I have not used either EIO AP-1680 controller, UML or software raid so >>far, and I will highly appreciate any comments and suggestions. >> >> > >Software RAID0 means higher load, and it's a risk to your data... I'd >seriously consider looking for better alternatives (since you mention load >is low, I can't imagine you need the performance of RAID0?) Better two >partitions with both 200GB than one large 400GB with a much higher chance >of failure.... > >I've been using software RAID1 on a Dell Poweredge 600S server for over a >year now without any issues (still need to move it from RH7.3 to WBEL... >some time in future) but ofcourse that's a somewhat different story (all >SCSI setup, low loads, low disk I/O except for weekly backups) > >As for webCDcreator, I haven't seen any kernel panics or other issues with >it yet, I'd say set up a testbox with WBEL first to see how it behaves, I >installed it two months ago and it's seen extensive use without any issues >so far. > > From rninov@mailbg.com Fri Jul 16 20:10:50 2004 From: rninov@mailbg.com (Romeo Ninov) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:10:50 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7EB41.7080409@eurorisksystems.com> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> <40F7E359.1030406@mailbg.com> <40F7EB41.7080409@eurorisksystems.com> Message-ID: <40F8283A.9000901@mailbg.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080209090605030105000709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I understand about the budget :-( My experience with RAID 0 (s/w) on RHEL Enterprise Server with only CVS and Oracle and 10 developers I see serios processor load from RAID support. :-( On the same configuration (with 1G of ram, 2XPentium 1GHz) exp command make load on 50% with serios amount of i/o operations. BTW: If you are buy already controller try it on other machine with Knoppix for example to make sure is not recognizable as other kind of RAID Alex Georgiev wrote: > Romeo Ninov wrote: > >> Alex Georgiev wrote: >> > >>> >>> The mother board is an old intel 820 desktop board with 512MB ram, >>> Pentium III 500MHz. This server provides the following services for >>> 15 windows/linux clients: >>> oracle, samba, nfs, cvs, mail (smtp, pop3), dhcp, dns, http >>> the average load is very, very low. >>> > > >> Is I see (based on Your description) this is not so fast computer, so >> my idea is to try to start hardware mirror instead of software based. >> Some of drivers make raid to look like scsi disk!! >> If You use s/w mirror you can make it from install procedure (disk >> managment) or make this using LVM. Lash help you manage disk space > > > I have no option for a hardware raid - we are on a budjet. > Unless someone is not driving the Oracle with a vicious query, > (too bad that 512MB ram is the max for that board) > the average load is very low. Even when oracle is working - > the samba responce time is good. I am more afraid of CD burning > slowing the whole machine - but we burn not more that 2 disks a week. > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > -- Regards: Romeo Ninov --------------080209090605030105000709 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="rninov.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rninov.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Romeo Ninov n:Ninov;Romeo tel;cell:+89-9754069 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://rninov.hit.bg version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080209090605030105000709-- From Benjamin J. Weiss" I've read on Novell's site that Ximian's Evolution Connector for Exchange requires Exchange 2000 or 2003. We're running Exchange 5.5. Does anybody have any experience or knowledge about using Connector with Exchange 5.5? Thanks! Ben From Benjamin J. Weiss" All, I've tried downloading the above iso twice, and each time it's failed it's MD5SUM check: In the downloaded file: b2831b27b9eca9f4e84e5b0a0de1f821 Generated from the iso: 3937a507c7e22e1282f8099825532a14 I've been using the phantom hosting mirror. Is this just a goofup in the md5 sum file? Thanks! Ben From kurt@raschke.net Sat Jul 17 00:40:24 2004 From: kurt@raschke.net (Kurt Raschke) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:40:24 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat 9 migration? In-Reply-To: <1089952271.4104.12.camel@notebook.home> References: <20040714174844.GA18558@raschke.net> <20040715205430.GA11167@raschke.net> <1089952271.4104.12.camel@notebook.home> Message-ID: <20040716234024.GA6751@raschke.net> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 08:31:11AM +0400, Ivan Pechorin wrote: > Kurt Raschke wrote: > > > I have read that Linux SATA support is best in the 2.6 kernel series, > > and given the recent exchange on this list regarding compiling a 2.6 > > kernel to run on WBEL, I suspect that I will probably be better off > > with Fedora Core 2. > > Kurt, Redhat backported lots of features from 2.6 series to its kernels. > SATA support is definitely among these features. I use to run WBEL on > SATA drive for about six months now without having any problem. > Thank you for letting me know about that. That's literally some of the best news I've heard all day long. It looks like I will definitely be working with WBEL in the future. -Kurt From asparks@quris.com Sun Jul 18 00:20:42 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:20:42 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] i2c kernel modules? Message-ID: <40F9B44A.5040301@quris.com> Testing WBEL 3.0 respin 1... Wondering why there are no kernel modules for the I2C stuff, for use with lm_sensors. The configs in kernel-source seem to indicate the I2C stuff should have been built as modules, but none exist in /lib/modules/2.4.21-15.0.3.EL. Is this intentional? Are the modules located in an uninstalled RPM somewhere? Thanks in advance. -Alan -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Sun Jul 18 00:51:00 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] i2c kernel modules? In-Reply-To: <40F9B44A.5040301@quris.com> References: <40F9B44A.5040301@quris.com> Message-ID: <35795.192.168.0.254.1090108260.squirrel@192.168.0.254> Alan Sparks said: > Are the modules located in an uninstalled RPM > somewhere? kernel-unsupported -- William Hooper From asparks@quris.com Sun Jul 18 00:55:44 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:55:44 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Can't compile kernel linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL drivers? Message-ID: <40F9BC80.90902@quris.com> Trying a modules compile on WBEL 3.0 respin 1. Have installed kernel-source-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL glibc-kernheaders-2.4-8.34 Have copied configs/kernel-2.4.21-athlon.config as .config. During 'make modules', compile fails: gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -freorder-blocks -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=athlon -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/include/linux/modversions.h -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/drivers/scsi -c megaraid2.c -o megaraid_2009.o In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/include/linux/mm.h:22, from megaraid2.c:33: /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/include/linux/sched.h:6: invalid suffix on integer constant /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/include/linux/sched.h:6: syntax error before numeric constant /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/include/linux/sched.h:6: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype make[3]: *** [megaraid_2009.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/drivers/addon/megaraid_2009' make[2]: *** [_modsubdir_megaraid_2009] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/drivers/addon' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_addon] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/drivers' Anything special to fix stock WBEL to compile kernel-source? -Alan -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From jamesk@ifm-services.com Sun Jul 18 06:15:09 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:15:09 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Java Development on WBEL? Message-ID: <40FA075D.8020009@ifm-services.com> When I installed my workstation with WBEL, I included the dev tools. I notice that there's a number of Java-related rpms (ant, xalan, junit). This is fortuitous since I've been thinking of re-acquainting myself with Java development (it's been years since I touched anything). I've been coding for about 25 years, so it's just a matter of re-learning syntax and learning the useful parts of the libraries. After spending a lot of time googling, I'm not coming up with any indication of whether there's a complete set of Java dev tools (I would guess yes looking at the installed packages). I was thinking of downloading eclipse to toy with that environment. Could somebody could point me to a couple of useful URLs? Or barring that, any pointers or caveats before I get myself in trouble? *grin* Thanks! -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From ivan@pechorin.com Sun Jul 18 07:53:57 2004 From: ivan@pechorin.com (Ivan Pechorin) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:53:57 +0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Java Development on WBEL? In-Reply-To: <40FA075D.8020009@ifm-services.com> References: <40FA075D.8020009@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <1090133636.18947.23.camel@notebook.home> James Knowles wrote: > After spending a lot of time googling, I'm not coming up with any > indication of whether there's a complete set of Java dev tools (I would > guess yes looking at the installed packages). See http://www.jpackage.org/about.php JPackage provides a way to install and maintain complete set of Java packages on a number of Linux distros (including RHEL 3). From jamesk@ifm-services.com Sun Jul 18 09:16:54 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:16:54 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Java Development on WBEL? In-Reply-To: <1090133636.18947.23.camel@notebook.home> References: <40FA075D.8020009@ifm-services.com> <1090133636.18947.23.camel@notebook.home> Message-ID: <40FA31F6.2010504@ifm-services.com> >See http://www.jpackage.org/about.php > > Oooh... the jackpot! Thank you. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Sun Jul 18 10:56:24 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 04:56:24 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Free Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090144584.8398.0.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-VdLrsTN7wQKyOOcYMCZ1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 08:15, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > According to distrowatch.com, Novell is giving away a Linux Technical > > Resource Kit that includes over 10GB of fully-functional software to > > help you test and evaluate Linux products from Novell in your home test > > lab. Included for free are: > > > > - SUSE LINUX Standard Server 8.0 > > - SUSE LINUX 9.1 Professional > > - Ximian Desktop 2.0 > > - Ximian Red Carpet > > - Novell Linux Services 1.0 > > - Novell GroupWise for Linux 1.0 > > - and more... > > > > Here is the order form > > > > http://www.novell.com/community/linux/orde...?sourceid=uscin > > > > - Johnny Hughes > > > > Johnny, > > That link was incomplete,and I've been unable to find the order form. > Could you please post the complete link? > > Thanks! > > Ben The order form was: http://www.novell.com/community/linux/order.php?sourceid=uscin it is not working any more .... though they will take your name and e-mail and let you know about other promotions. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-VdLrsTN7wQKyOOcYMCZ1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 08:15, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Johnny Hughes wrote:

> According to distrowatch.com, Novell is giving away a Linux Technical
> Resource Kit that includes over 10GB of fully-functional software to
> help you test and evaluate Linux products from Novell in your home test
> lab. Included for free are:
> 
> - SUSE LINUX Standard Server 8.0
> - SUSE LINUX 9.1 Professional
> - Ximian Desktop 2.0
> - Ximian Red Carpet
> - Novell Linux Services 1.0
> - Novell GroupWise for Linux 1.0
> - and more...
> 
> Here is the order form 
> 
> http://www.novell.com/community/linux/orde...?sourceid=uscin
> 
> - Johnny Hughes
> 

Johnny,

That link was incomplete,and I've been unable to find the order form.  
Could you please post the complete link?

Thanks!

Ben

The order form was:
http://www.novell.com/community/linux/order.php?sourceid=uscin

it is not working any more .... though they will take your name and e-mail and let you know about other promotions.




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-VdLrsTN7wQKyOOcYMCZ1-- From chapeaurouge@madpenguin.org Sun Jul 18 20:40:45 2004 From: chapeaurouge@madpenguin.org (Frederic Blaise) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:40:45 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] nfs install refers to redhat Message-ID: <1090179645.2130.35.camel@slacker.blaisern.com> --=-Dioh8TPVcPEYE2TjilX2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-M0hs1Sfp7PkQjfy6djfL" --=-M0hs1Sfp7PkQjfy6djfL Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all Just tried WBL for the 1st time... Way nice guys! I conducted an NFS install from the first iso CD, and I noticed a "Red Hat" when it prompts your for the NFS server and "Red Hat directory"... I haven't looked at the bugs open, so sorry if it is already there... just wanted to tell before I forget. Keep up the good work! fb. ----------------------------- Frederic G. Blaise # 803004218511479 --=-M0hs1Sfp7PkQjfy6djfL Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all

Just tried WBL for the 1st time... Way nice guys!
I conducted an NFS install from the first iso CD, and I noticed a "Red Hat" when it prompts your for the NFS server and "Red Hat directory"...

I haven't looked at the bugs open, so sorry if it is already there... just wanted to tell before I forget.

Keep up the good work!

fb.

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Frederic G. Blaise

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I have implemented a number of whitebox linux boxes at work and install from an ftp server. I initially thought I saw a redhat reference that had not been replaced with a whitebox one too. It actually turned out to be a redhat directory reference when it was retrieving the install images. Not sure if this will need to be changed for legality as it is just a directory, plus any changes may effect lots of behind the scene operations with paths......maybe? Great distro though. Cheers Graham >From: Frederic Blaise >Reply-To: chapeaurouge@madpenguin.org >To: whitebox-users@beau.org >Subject: [WBEL-users] nfs install refers to redhat >Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:40:45 -0500 > >Hello all > >Just tried WBL for the 1st time... Way nice guys! >I conducted an NFS install from the first iso CD, and I noticed a "Red >Hat" when it prompts your for the NFS server and "Red Hat directory"... > >I haven't looked at the bugs open, so sorry if it is already there... >just wanted to tell before I forget. > >Keep up the good work! > >fb. > >----------------------------- >Frederic G. Blaise > > # 803004218511479 > > _________________________________________________________________ Play Love Hunt to win a $9000 holiday and find love! http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mclovehunt/lovehunt.aspx From liverbird89@hotmail.com Mon Jul 19 02:27:51 2004 From: liverbird89@hotmail.com (Graham Waring) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:27:51 +1000 Subject: [WBEL-users] sendmail.mc redhat reference Message-ID: G'day all, In setting up sendmail I have noticed a reference to redhat linux in the sendmail.mc, I have pasted a small part here: divert(-1)dnl dnl # dnl # This is the sendmail macro config file for m4. If you make changes to dnl # /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, you will need to regenerate the dnl # /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file by confirming that the sendmail-cf package is dnl # installed and then performing a dnl # dnl # make -C /etc/mail dnl # include(`/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl VERSIONID(`setup for Red Hat Linux')dnl Not sure if this needs to be changed. Cheers Graham _________________________________________________________________ Play Love Hunt to win a $9000 holiday and find love! http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mclovehunt/lovehunt.aspx From kyloke@hotmail.com Mon Jul 19 07:23:21 2004 From: kyloke@hotmail.com (King Yin Loke) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 06:23:21 +0000 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing White Box Linux 3.0 Respin Release Message-ID: Hi all, I tried to install the captioned version of WBEL onto my Pentium III-500MHz machine. I chose "Server" type and include GNOME desktop in addition to the default choices. My hard disc has around 6GB in total and I have allocated around 1.8GB for /usr, 1.2GB for /var, default size for swap space and boot partition and the rest (around 2.5GB) for root partition. When the installation reaches the "glibc" package, it seems to have finish installing, but then the installer just crashed out with error message "Invalid Tag..." appearing twice. Do anyone know why this is happening? Thank you so much in advance. Benjamin _________________________________________________________________ Linguaphone : Learning English? Get Japanese lessons for FREE http://go.msnserver.com/HK/46165.asp From linux@akelanetwork.com Mon Jul 19 09:04:21 2004 From: linux@akelanetwork.com (linux) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:04:21 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing g++/c++ Message-ID: <20040719080421.25928.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Hi, I've just installed whitebox release of 3.0 Respin 1. It was great in general. One of the problems I run into when compiling nmap 3.55 was missing the g++ (because I picked the minimum server option). I've tried to search on the web and mailing list (redhat, fedora, and this site) but could not find an answer. I've tried yum to look for it but still no good. Here's the error while compiling nmap: ...................... ...................... checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no checking whether g++ accepts -g... no checking for g++... MISSING configure: error: Could not locate a C++ compiler. If it exists, add it to your PATH or give configure the CXX=path_to_compiler argument. Otherwise, install a C++ compiler such as g++ or install a binary package of Nmap (see http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap_download.html )) Please give me some pointer on how to go about it. Thanks a lot. From ivan@pechorin.com Mon Jul 19 12:00:26 2004 From: ivan@pechorin.com (Ivan Pechorin) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:00:26 +0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing g++/c++ In-Reply-To: <20040719080421.25928.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> References: <20040719080421.25928.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Message-ID: <1090234825.21306.24.camel@notebook.home> Hi! linux@akelanetwork wrote: > I've just installed whitebox release of 3.0 Respin 1. It was great in > general. One of the problems I run into when compiling nmap 3.55 was > missing the g++ (because I picked the minimum server option). I've tried to > search on the web and mailing list (redhat, fedora, and this site) but could > not find an answer. > I've tried yum to look for it but still no good. Did you try 'yum search c++'? It says that you need a gcc-c++ package. 'yum install gcc-c++' command should help you, if your yum is properly configured. You should have something like this in your /etc/yum.conf: [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=whitebox-release tolerant=1 exactarch=0 gpgcheck=1 [base] name=White Box Enterprise Linux - Base baseurl=http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/whiteboxlinux/$releasever/en/os/$base [updates-released] name=White Box Enterprise Linux - Released Updates baseurl=http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/whiteboxlinux/$releasever/en/updates/ > Please give me some pointer on how to go about it. Thanks a lot. http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/whiteboxlinux/3.0/en/updates/i386/gcc-c++-3.2.3-34.i386.rpm http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/whiteboxlinux/3.0/en/updates/i386/libstdc++-3.2.3-34.i386.rpm http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/whiteboxlinux/3.0/en/updates/i386/libstdc++-devel-3.2.3-34.i386.rpm -- Ivan Pechorin phone: +7 903 1078246 email: ivan@pechorin.com From Benjamin J. Weiss" All, Okay, I've downloaded rc2 disk 2 from two mirrors now, and they both have the same md5sum. Both sites have the same md5 text file, and both .iso's md5 sums don't agree with the md5 in the .md5 file. Is *anybody* running rc2? If so, could you please run a quick md5sum against the second .iso? I really can't afford to install a distro that has been compromised by black-hats... Thanks! Ben From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Mon Jul 19 14:09:55 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Please help verify md5sum on rc2 disk 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1473.12.29.16.103.1090242595.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Benjamin J. Weiss said: > Is *anybody* running rc2? Probably not, because the official release has been out for a while now, and there has even been an updated release of it with newer drivers. Is there any specific reason you are trying to run a release canidate instead of the release? -- William Hooper From Benjamin J. Weiss" Message-ID: Okay, color me stupid. For some reason I thought respin 2 was available (checking on the NCSU mirror, I see that only respin 1 is available). Anyway, when I was checking the Phantom Hosting mirror, I saw the RC2 directory and thought "respin 2" instead of "Release Candidate 2". I've started downloading Respin 1 and will give it a shot. Thanks! Ben On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, William Hooper wrote: > > Benjamin J. Weiss said: > > > Is *anybody* running rc2? > > Probably not, because the official release has been out for a while now, and there has even been an updated release of it with newer drivers. Is there any specific reason you are trying to run a release canidate instead of the release? > > -- > William Hooper > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From pantz@lqt.ca Mon Jul 19 16:07:13 2004 From: pantz@lqt.ca (Paul Pianta) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:07:13 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing White Box Linux 3.0 Respin Release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FBE3A1.8070104@lqt.ca> King Yin Loke wrote: > Hi all, > > I tried to install the captioned version of WBEL onto my Pentium > III-500MHz machine. I chose "Server" type and include GNOME desktop in > addition to the default choices. My hard disc has around 6GB in total > and I have allocated around 1.8GB for /usr, 1.2GB for /var, default > size for swap space and boot partition and the rest (around 2.5GB) for > root partition. When the installation reaches the "glibc" package, it > seems to have finish installing, but then the installer just crashed > out with error message "Invalid Tag..." appearing twice. Do anyone > know why this is happening? Have you verified that your cd images are valid? Run md5sum on each iso image and check them against the md5sums on the download page ... You could be trying to install from corrupt cds (just happened to me!) pantz -- Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes ... That way when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes! From jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk Mon Jul 19 17:12:21 2004 From: jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Jake Grimmett) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:12:21 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Can't compile kernel linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL drivers? (Alan Sparks) In-Reply-To: <20040718170000.24255.94840.Mailman@library.beau.org> References: <20040718170000.24255.94840.Mailman@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <200407191712.21927.jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk> Hi All On Sunday 18 Jul 2004 6:00 pm, whitebox-users-request@beau.org wrote: > Can't compile kernel linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL drivers? (Alan Sparks) Just thought I'd confirm that I'm getting Error 2's when I try to compile the kernel or kernel modules - I had just assumed that it was 'finger trouble' (i.e. just me doing something daft...) but as Alan is having problems, could someone else possibly check to see if we are both going nuts - or if the problem is real? On Whitebox ES 3.0u2 (respin1) 32bit Dual Opteron 246, 1GB RAM make clean && make mrproper make xconfig (and load configs/kernel-2.4.21-athlon-smp.config) make -j2 dep && make -j2 bzImage .... Huge amount sniped here - hopefully I've enough left to help ?? ld -m elf_i386 -T /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds (********SNIP********) /i386/lib/lib.a --end-group -o .tmp_vmlinux1 fs/fs.o(.text+0x43c51): In function `zisofs_readpage': : undefined reference to `zlib_inflateInit_' (********SNIP******** -many similar lines) make[1]: *** [kallsyms] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL' ta ta Jake -- Dr J. Grimmett Computer Systems Manager Division of Molecular Structure National Institute for Medical Research The Ridgeway Mill Hill London, NW7 1AA Tel: 0208 816 2028 Fax: 0208 906 4477 From andyr@wizzy.com Mon Jul 19 17:46:18 2004 From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:46:18 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Can't compile kernel linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL drivers? (Alan Sparks) In-Reply-To: <200407191712.21927.jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk> References: <20040718170000.24255.94840.Mailman@library.beau.org> <200407191712.21927.jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20040719164618.GF1363@wizzy.com> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Jake Grimmett wrote: > > make clean && make mrproper > make xconfig > (and load configs/kernel-2.4.21-athlon-smp.config) > make -j2 dep && make -j2 bzImage > > .... > Huge amount sniped here - hopefully I've enough left to help ?? > > ld -m elf_i386 -T /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds > (********SNIP********) /i386/lib/lib.a --end-group -o .tmp_vmlinux1 > fs/fs.o(.text+0x43c51): In function `zisofs_readpage': > : undefined reference to `zlib_inflateInit_' > (********SNIP******** -many similar lines) > make[1]: *** [kallsyms] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL' Do you have zlib-devel installed ? Cheers, Andy! From benm@dsl-only.net Mon Jul 19 18:14:30 2004 From: benm@dsl-only.net (Ben Mohilef) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:14:30 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] WB EL and the Via Nehemiah Message-ID: <40FB9F06.13072.F570D7@localhost> --Alt-Boundary-28276.16085207 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body The VIA ITX board actually runs decently on RH 9.0. Although it is pretty slow with graphics, it takes data and does limited processing quite well in console mode (driven by a battery no less). Has anyone gotten this chip/board to run on WB EL or RH EL? --Alt-Boundary-28276.16085207 Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body

The VIA ITX board actually runs decently on RH 9.0. Although it is

pretty slow with graphics, it takes data and does limited processing

quite well in console mode (driven by a battery no less).

Has anyone gotten this chip/board to run on WB EL or RH EL?

--Alt-Boundary-28276.16085207-- From Benjamin J. Weiss" At work we're trying to familiarize our IT staff with Linux. Our two options are to add a second drive to the boxes and load linux on them, or to run a live-cd. I prefer using a second HD and running WBEL, as we're running two RHEL servers in our computer room and hopefully will get more soon. The live-cd distros that I've seen are based on Debian, which is obviously different. I've installed a second hard drive, as the slave on the primary ide channel. I have a 40gig XP drive as the primary ide master, and a dvd burner as the primary on the second ide channel. I've tried doing the install with GRUB on the primary MBR, but when the system reboots all I get is a black screen with the word GRUB at the top. So, I booted off of the XP disk and ran FIXMBR, which brought me back into windows. Then I re-installed WBEL, telling GRUB to load on the first sector of the /boot partition (hdb). I then followed the directions in the "Dual-Boot Linux and Windows 2000/Windows XP with GRUB HOWTO" (http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html) but when I try to boot into WBEL, I get the black screen with GRUB at the top, yet again. Is it possible to do this? I need to keep XP on the primary drive and want to put linux on the second drive. I'm running a new Dell 4600. I've checked the BIOS and can't find anywhere that I can specify LBA mode. I get either "Auto" or "disabled". Thanks, Ben From rlillard@sonic.net Mon Jul 19 18:36:11 2004 From: rlillard@sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:36:11 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL (respin) with 875P Mobo Message-ID: <40FC068B.4000704@sonic.net> I would like to install WBEL (respin) on an ASUS P4C800-E mobo. This system is to have the OS installed on the Primary Master. I intend to use the two SATA-150 drives as a software RAID1 for the data shares of a Samba PDC. I have booted up on the the install disk and the SATA drives are not recognized but I'm hoping that if I install the OS I will find the SATA driver support available when I rebuild the kernel. Is this correct. I have an FreeBSD installation on the system at the moment, but am having some Samba issues (which I won't go into here). I am seriously considering moving to WBEL, but don't want to blow-out my existing and partially working installation, if WBEL doesn't support access to the SATA drives. I must commission this system this week and hope to make the decision today. Thanks, Ray From peter@haufschild.de Mon Jul 19 18:52:57 2004 From: peter@haufschild.de (Peter Haufschild) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:52:57 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] WB EL and the Via Nehemiah Message-ID: <1090259577.2576.106.camel@grosser> Hallo Ben Mohilef, > The VIA ITX board actually runs decently on RH 9.0. Although it is > pretty slow with graphics, it takes data and does limited processing > quite well in console mode (driven by a battery no less). > > Has anyone gotten this chip/board to run on WB EL or RH EL? This is no Problem, I run it, but only for network service. You will get trouble, if you plan to use xine or tv cards. xine: https://sourceforge.net/projects/viaexp/ But I didn't get it to run with WBEL :-( If you find a way tell me who I could get it too other usefull links http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=325#cle266 http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/pvr/ http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=215 Regards Peter -- Peter Haufschild Red Hat Certified Technican Pettenkofer Str. 27 Red Hat Certified Engineer 10247 Berlin Tel.: +49-30-449 46 12 Mobil: +49-172-990 91 97 Email: peter@haufschild.de From Benjamin J. Weiss" Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Raymond Lillard wrote: > > I would like to install WBEL (respin) on an > ASUS P4C800-E mobo. This system is to have > the OS installed on the Primary Master. I > intend to use the two SATA-150 drives as a > software RAID1 for the data shares of a Samba > PDC. > > I have booted up on the the install disk and > the SATA drives are not recognized but I'm hoping > that if I install the OS I will find the SATA > driver support available when I rebuild the kernel. > > Is this correct. I have an FreeBSD installation > on the system at the moment, but am having some > Samba issues (which I won't go into here). I > am seriously considering moving to WBEL, but > don't want to blow-out my existing and partially > working installation, if WBEL doesn't support > access to the SATA drives. Ray, I've got a different mobo that I dual-booted with Win2K and FC1. I was using both a PATA and a SATA drive, and had to change the bios to "compatibility mode" or something similar, in order to get it to work. FC1 was on the primary partition, IIRC. I'd be happy to do a test install tonight to see how it works, and to give you the lowdown on the chipset I'm using. It's an MSI mobo, I believe. Ben From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Mon Jul 19 19:55:17 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:55:17 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing g++/c++ In-Reply-To: <200407191350.14427.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> References: <20040719080421.25928.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> <200407191350.14427.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Message-ID: <200407191355.17286.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Oops!! This should go to the list instead of only to the author of the original message. Sorry. On Monday 19 July 2004 13:50, Rafael Baquero S. wrote: > On Monday 19 July 2004 03:04, linux wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've just installed whitebox release of 3.0 Respin 1. It was great in > > general. One of the problems I run into when compiling nmap 3.55 was > > missing the g++ (because I picked the minimum server option). I've tried > > to search on the web and mailing list (redhat, fedora, and this site) but > > could not find an answer. I've tried yum to look for it but still no > > good. > > > > Here's the error while compiling nmap: > > ...................... > > ...................... > > checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no > > checking whether g++ accepts -g... no > > checking for g++... MISSING > > configure: error: Could not locate a C++ compiler. If it exists, add it > > to your PATH or give configure the CXX=path_to_compiler argument. > > Otherwise, install a C++ compiler such as g++ or install a binary package > > of Nmap (see http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap_download.html )) > > > > Please give me some pointer on how to go about it. Thanks a lot. > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > It seems that you did not install the GNU Compiler Collection (or at least > not all of it). Check that the following RPMs are installed in your system: > > gcc-3.2.3-20 > libgcc-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.41 > gcc-c++-3.2.3-20 > gcc-c++-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.41 > libgcc-3.2.3-20 > gcc-ssa-3.5ssa-0.20030801.41 > > You can install these RPMs directly from the WBEL CDs. > > Hope this helps. > > Rafael. > > BTW. I just compiled nmap from both .tgz and src.rpm and it compiles > without any problems. From Philip.R.Schaffner@NASA.gov Mon Jul 19 19:53:49 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner@NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:53:49 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Can't compile kernel linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL drivers? (Alan Sparks) In-Reply-To: <20040719164618.GF1363@wizzy.com> References: <20040718170000.24255.94840.Mailman@library.beau.org> <200407191712.21927.jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk> <20040719164618.GF1363@wizzy.com> Message-ID: <1090263229.3408.109.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 18:46 +0200, Andy Rabagliati wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Jake Grimmett wrote: > > > > > make clean && make mrproper > > make xconfig > > (and load configs/kernel-2.4.21-athlon-smp.config) > > make -j2 dep && make -j2 bzImage > > > > .... > > Huge amount sniped here - hopefully I've enough left to help ?? > > > > ld -m elf_i386 -T /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds > > (********SNIP********) /i386/lib/lib.a --end-group -o .tmp_vmlinux1 > > fs/fs.o(.text+0x43c51): In function `zisofs_readpage': > > : undefined reference to `zlib_inflateInit_' > > (********SNIP******** -many similar lines) > > make[1]: *** [kallsyms] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL' > > Do you have zlib-devel installed ? Kernel build works for me on Athlon system (actually VMware virtual machine) with the following procedure/script. Do have zlib-devel installed, apparently as a result of install-time (presumably kernel development) choices - did not explicitly install it. #!/bin/bash # /root/bin/make_linux # # Kernel build steps: # 1. Install the sources # 2. cd (e.g. /usr/src/linux-2.4 # 3. make mrproper (or make distclean) # 3a.optional - copy .config file from configs directory or # old kernel, then "make oldconfig" (some say twice) # 4. make xconfig (gconfig for 2.6 or menuconfig if not in X) # 5. make dep (not required for 2.6 kernels) # 6. make # 7. make bzImage # 8. make modules # 9. make modules_install # 10. make install # 11. if required, configure bootloader. ("make install" will do # this for you) # This script implements steps 6-10 # Note: adjust "-j n" for performance on compilation # runs parallel jobs # -j 4 is a good starting place for single processor (make -j 6 && make -j 6 bzImage && make -j 6 modules && \ make modules_install && make install) >& /tmp/MakeKernel.log # check log file for errors when done, repeat as required, or reboot # to test Phil From ideras@grupoleitz.com Tue Jul 20 07:00:24 2004 From: ideras@grupoleitz.com (Ivan Deras) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:00:24 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing a dual boot XP/WBEL with WBEL on hdb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FCB4F8.1000703@grupoleitz.com> Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: >At work we're trying to familiarize our IT staff with Linux. Our two >options are to add a second drive to the boxes and load linux on them, or >to run a live-cd. > >I prefer using a second HD and running WBEL, as we're running two RHEL >servers in our computer room and hopefully will get more soon. The >live-cd distros that I've seen are based on Debian, which is obviously >different. > >I've installed a second hard drive, as the slave on the primary ide >channel. I have a 40gig XP drive as the primary ide master, and a dvd >burner as the primary on the second ide channel. > >I've tried doing the install with GRUB on the primary MBR, but when the >system reboots all I get is a black screen with the word GRUB at the top. > >So, I booted off of the XP disk and ran FIXMBR, which brought me back into >windows. > >Then I re-installed WBEL, telling GRUB to load on the first sector of the >/boot partition (hdb). I then followed the directions in the "Dual-Boot >Linux and Windows 2000/Windows XP with GRUB HOWTO" >(http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html) but when I try >to boot into WBEL, I get the black screen with GRUB at the top, yet again. > >Is it possible to do this? I need to keep XP on the primary drive and >want to put linux on the second drive. > > You need to enable LBA32 before installing grub, this can be done without reinstalling Linux but you need to boot with first CD in rescue mode and then configure grub to use lba32 and install it !!! >I'm running a new Dell 4600. I've checked the BIOS and can't find >anywhere that I can specify LBA mode. I get either "Auto" or "disabled". > >Thanks, > >Ben > >_______________________________________________ >Whitebox-users mailing list >Whitebox-users@beau.org >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > From Benjamin J. Weiss" Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Ivan Deras wrote: > Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > > >Is it possible to do this? I need to keep XP on the primary drive and > >want to put linux on the second drive. > > > > > You need to enable LBA32 before installing grub, this can be done > without reinstalling Linux but you need to boot with first CD in rescue > mode and then configure grub to use lba32 and install it !!! > Okay, so far I haven't found anything about an LBA32 in the man pages, and googling around shows that lilo had an LBA32 setting but that grub is supposed to auto-detect lba. What am I missing? And again, there was nowhere in the bios (that I could find) where I could set lba mode on or off... Ben From hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com Mon Jul 19 21:30:04 2004 From: hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:30:04 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing a dual boot XP/WBEL with WBEL on hdb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FC2F4C.5010307@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> what machine's hardware is this?(maker model) Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Ivan Deras wrote: > > >>Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: >> >> >>>Is it possible to do this? I need to keep XP on the primary drive and >>>want to put linux on the second drive. >>> >>> >> >>You need to enable LBA32 before installing grub, this can be done >>without reinstalling Linux but you need to boot with first CD in rescue >>mode and then configure grub to use lba32 and install it !!! >> > > > Okay, so far I haven't found anything about an LBA32 in the man pages, and > googling around shows that lilo had an LBA32 setting but that grub is > supposed to auto-detect lba. What am I missing? > > And again, there was nowhere in the bios (that I could find) where I could > set lba mode on or off... > > Ben > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" From Benjamin J. Weiss" Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, William Warren wrote: > what machine's hardware is this?(maker model) Dell 4600 > > Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Ivan Deras wrote: > > > > > >>Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Is it possible to do this? I need to keep XP on the primary drive and > >>>want to put linux on the second drive. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>You need to enable LBA32 before installing grub, this can be done > >>without reinstalling Linux but you need to boot with first CD in rescue > >>mode and then configure grub to use lba32 and install it !!! > >> > > > > > > Okay, so far I haven't found anything about an LBA32 in the man pages, and > > googling around shows that lilo had an LBA32 setting but that grub is > > supposed to auto-detect lba. What am I missing? > > > > And again, there was nowhere in the bios (that I could find) where I could > > set lba mode on or off... > > > > Ben > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > -- > My "Foundation" verse: > Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; > and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou > shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, > and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. > > -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com Mon Jul 19 22:19:41 2004 From: hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:19:41 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing a dual boot XP/WBEL with WBEL on hdb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FC3AED.7090007@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> I forget the command..but you may have to pass a force lba32 arugument to the kernel via grub at bootime. Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, William Warren wrote: > > >>what machine's hardware is this?(maker model) > > > Dell 4600 > > >>Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Ivan Deras wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Is it possible to do this? I need to keep XP on the primary drive and >>>>>want to put linux on the second drive. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>You need to enable LBA32 before installing grub, this can be done >>>>without reinstalling Linux but you need to boot with first CD in rescue >>>>mode and then configure grub to use lba32 and install it !!! >>>> >>> >>> >>>Okay, so far I haven't found anything about an LBA32 in the man pages, and >>>googling around shows that lilo had an LBA32 setting but that grub is >>>supposed to auto-detect lba. What am I missing? >>> >>>And again, there was nowhere in the bios (that I could find) where I could >>>set lba mode on or off... >>> >>>Ben >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Whitebox-users mailing list >>>Whitebox-users@beau.org >>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >>> >> >>-- >>My "Foundation" verse: >>Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; >>and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou >>shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, >>and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. >> >>-- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" >>_______________________________________________ >>Whitebox-users mailing list >>Whitebox-users@beau.org >>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >> > > > -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" From jmorris@beau.org Tue Jul 20 01:33:53 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:33:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Java Development on WBEL? In-Reply-To: <1090133636.18947.23.camel@notebook.home> Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Ivan Pechorin wrote: > See http://www.jpackage.org/about.php > > JPackage provides a way to install and maintain complete set of Java > packages on a number of Linux distros (including RHEL 3). And using Jpackage is easy. Just look in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources for an entry for them already in place, just commented out. Also included is a cut/paste line to inport their GPG key into RPM. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From pfhonore@cea.fr Tue Jul 20 02:56:20 2004 From: pfhonore@cea.fr (Pierre-Francois Honore) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 03:56:20 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL (respin) with 875P Mobo In-Reply-To: <40FC068B.4000704@sonic.net> References: <40FC068B.4000704@sonic.net> Message-ID: <1090288579.21745.23.camel@seipca109> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 19:36, Raymond Lillard wrote: > I would like to install WBEL (respin) on an > ASUS P4C800-E mobo. This system is to have > the OS installed on the Primary Master. I > intend to use the two SATA-150 drives as a > software RAID1 for the data shares of a Samba > PDC. > > I have booted up on the the install disk and > the SATA drives are not recognized but I'm hoping > that if I install the OS I will find the SATA > driver support available when I rebuild the kernel. > > Is this correct. Last week, I did that on a Dell Precision WorkStation with a Promise FastTrak S150 tx2 equivalent to the PDC 20378 controller of your ASUS P4C800-E mobo. I have used a standard IDE drive during the installation and compiled the driver from : http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=107&category=All&os=100 > I have an FreeBSD installation > on the system at the moment, but am having some > Samba issues (which I won't go into here). I > am seriously considering moving to WBEL, but > don't want to blow-out my existing and partially > working installation, if WBEL doesn't support > access to the SATA drives. > > I must commission this system this week and hope > to make the decision today. > > Thanks, > Ray > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From jmorris@beau.org Tue Jul 20 03:15:40 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:15:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] sendmail.mc redhat reference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Graham Waring wrote: > In setting up sendmail I have noticed a reference to redhat linux in the > sendmail.mc, I have pasted a small part here: To remove every RH reference would require touching a lot more packages than are currently modified. Probably at least a hundred. I'll remove obvious user visible references, but draw the line at config files unless they lawyer up over at RH. And so far they have been more than nice. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From Benjamin J. Weiss" Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Raymond Lillard wrote: > > > > > I would like to install WBEL (respin) on an > > ASUS P4C800-E mobo. This system is to have > > the OS installed on the Primary Master. I > > intend to use the two SATA-150 drives as a > > software RAID1 for the data shares of a Samba > > PDC. > > > > I have booted up on the the install disk and > > the SATA drives are not recognized but I'm hoping > > that if I install the OS I will find the SATA > > driver support available when I rebuild the kernel. > > > > Is this correct. I have an FreeBSD installation > > on the system at the moment, but am having some > > Samba issues (which I won't go into here). I > > am seriously considering moving to WBEL, but > > don't want to blow-out my existing and partially > > working installation, if WBEL doesn't support > > access to the SATA drives. > > Ray, > > I've got a different mobo that I dual-booted with Win2K and FC1. I was > using both a PATA and a SATA drive, and had to change the bios to > "compatibility mode" or something similar, in order to get it to work. > > FC1 was on the primary partition, IIRC. > > I'd be happy to do a test install tonight to see how it works, and to give > you the lowdown on the chipset I'm using. It's an MSI mobo, I believe. Sorry to reply to my own post, but apparently I've deleted the previous post by Raymond Lillard. I just finished a WBEL 3.0 Respin 1 install at home, and it went flawlessly. However, while I have a PATA and a SATA drive, I'm using an MSI Neo2 motherboard that's using the 865PE chipset, not the 875. However, to get it to work correctly and see both drives, I had to set the BIOS to legacy mode. If I didn't, neither linux nor win2k would see both drives. Depeinding upon my other BIOS settings, I'd see either the PATA or the SATA drive, but not both. I hope this helps, Ben From jmorris@beau.org Tue Jul 20 03:59:34 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:59:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] WB EL and the Via Nehemiah In-Reply-To: <40FB9F06.13072.F570D7@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Ben Mohilef wrote: > Has anyone gotten this chip/board to run on WB EL or RH EL? Don't have that exact CPU, but WBEL has i586 support because we have a stack of FIC Falcons with EPIA/Eden series processors. What sort of problems are you seeing? -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From liverbird89@hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 04:32:14 2004 From: liverbird89@hotmail.com (Graham Waring) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:32:14 +1000 Subject: [WBEL-users] sendmail.mc redhat reference Message-ID: Yep, no worries mate I agree there. Just thought I would pass on any references I notice to RH for when their lawyers go from more than nice to just plain nice. Great distro :) Graham >From: John Morris >To: Graham Waring >CC: whitebox-users@beau.org >Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] sendmail.mc redhat reference >Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:15:40 -0500 (CDT) > >On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Graham Waring wrote: > > > In setting up sendmail I have noticed a reference to redhat linux in the > > sendmail.mc, I have pasted a small part here: > >To remove every RH reference would require touching a lot more packages >than are currently modified. Probably at least a hundred. I'll remove >obvious user visible references, but draw the line at config files unless >they lawyer up over at RH. And so far they have been more than nice. > >-- >John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! >Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r > >_______________________________________________ >Whitebox-users mailing list >Whitebox-users@beau.org >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users _________________________________________________________________ Find love today with ninemsn personals. Click here: http://ninemsn.match.com?referrer=hotmailtagline From benm@dsl-only.net Tue Jul 20 04:33:35 2004 From: benm@dsl-only.net (Ben Mohilef) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:33:35 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] WB EL and the Via Nehemiah In-Reply-To: References: <40FB9F06.13072.F570D7@localhost> Message-ID: <40FC301F.28769.EAB5A5@localhost> The Nehemiah/M10000 runs on RH 9.0 (i686). Since I do not want to depend on fedoralegacy for updates, the logical sequitur of RH 9.0 is RHEL or WBEL using RedHat SRPMS for update. Based on the strength of your success with the Edens , I will load a M10000 with WBEL and let the group know how it performs. On 19 Jul 2004 at 21:59, John Morris wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Ben Mohilef wrote: > > > Has anyone gotten this chip/board to run on WB EL or RH EL? > > Don't have that exact CPU, but WBEL has i586 support because we have a > stack of FIC Falcons with EPIA/Eden series processors. What sort of > problems are you seeing? > > -- > John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ > Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R > tv- e* r > From rlillard@sonic.net Tue Jul 20 05:54:23 2004 From: rlillard@sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:54:23 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL (respin) with 875P Mobo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FCA57F.9040302@sonic.net> Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: >> I've got a different mobo that I dual-booted with Win2K and FC1. I was using both a PATA and a SATA drive, and had to change the bios to "compatibility mode" or something similar, in order to get it to work. >> >> FC1 was on the primary partition, IIRC. > > > I just finished a WBEL 3.0 Respin 1 install at home, and it went flawlessly. However, while I have a PATA and a SATA drive, I'm using an MSI Neo2 motherboard that's using the 865PE chipset, not the 875. However, to get it to work correctly and see both drives, I had to set the BIOS to legacy mode. If I didn't, neither linux nor win2k would see both drives. Depeinding upon my other BIOS settings, I'd see either the PATA or the SATA drive, but not both. Benjamin, Well, I bit the bullet and installed WBEL. The stock WBEL kernel can see the controller in the "Compatible" mode, but does not configure it. From my hardware file: "hwconf" - class: RAID bus: PCI detached: 0 driver: unknown desc: "Promise Technology, Inc.|unknown device 105a:3373" vendorId: 105a deviceId: 3373 subVendorId: 1043 subDeviceId: 80f5 pciType: 1 pcibus: 3 pcidev: 4 pcifn: 0 - class: IDE bus: PCI detached: 0 driver: ata_piix desc: "Intel Corp.|82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Controller" vendorId: 8086 deviceId: 24d1 subVendorId: 1043 subDeviceId: 80a6 pciType: 1 pcibus: 0 pcidev: 1f pcifn: 2 - If I am forced to run "Compatible", I have another problem. In the "Compatible" mode the BIOS requires that I choose between the Primary P-ATA devices or the Secondary P-ATA devices to co-exist with the SATA devices. I have 3 traditional IDE devices (2 HD and 1 CD). Thus in the "Compatible" mode I loose either a disk or the CDROM. If Linux cannot be coerced to manage this board in the "Enhanced" mode, I must go back to FreeBSD. I do have an Adaptec 29160 to handle a tape drive. I suppose I could get a SCSI CDROM drive and forget about the Secondary IDE bus. Thanks for your help. Ray From rlillard@sonic.net Tue Jul 20 06:29:04 2004 From: rlillard@sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:29:04 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL (respin) with 875P Mobo In-Reply-To: <1090288000.21745.17.camel@seipca109> References: <40FC068B.4000704@sonic.net> <1090288000.21745.17.camel@seipca109> Message-ID: <40FCADA0.3050602@sonic.net> Pierre-Francois Honore wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 19:36, Raymond Lillard wrote: >>I would like to install WBEL (respin) on an >>ASUS P4C800-E mobo. > I did that on a Dell Precision WorkStation with a Promise FastTrak S150 > tx2 equivalent to the PDC 20378 controller of our ASUS P4C800-E mobo. I > have used a standard IDE drive during the installation and compiled the > driver from : > http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=107&category=All&os=100 Monsieur, I gave the module you suggested a try without success. I will list my steps so you can tell me if and/or where I ran off the rails. I downloaded: http://www.promise.com/support/file/driver/1_fasttrak_s150_tx_partial_source_1.00.0.19.zip which seems to be most recent release for Linux. In "/usr/src", I created a symlink: ln -s linux-2.4.21-15.EL linux creating a clean path to the sources tree of "/usr/src/linux". In "/usr/src/linux", I executed: make oldconfig The Fasttrak readme file instructs a "make clean", but surely that is in error and I did not do it. Executing: insmod ft3xx.o yields: root@ctifs1: insmod ft3xx.o Warning: kernel-module version mismatch ft3xx.o was compiled for kernel version 2.4.21-15.ELcustom while this kernel is version 2.4.21-15.ELsmp Warning: loading ft3xx.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - Proprietary See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading ft3xx.o will taint the kernel: forced load ft3xx.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg I hope I've made a mistake somewhere as that is more readily fixable than a closed source driver. Does anyone know of an OpenSource driver? I Googled hard for one but not been successful. Merci, Ray From rk@raimokoski.com Tue Jul 20 06:53:44 2004 From: rk@raimokoski.com (Raimo Koski) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:53:44 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] sendmail.mc redhat reference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FCB368.5040203@raimokoski.com> John Morris wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Graham Waring wrote: > > >>In setting up sendmail I have noticed a reference to redhat linux in the >>sendmail.mc, I have pasted a small part here: > > > To remove every RH reference would require touching a lot more packages > than are currently modified. Probably at least a hundred. I'll remove > obvious user visible references, but draw the line at config files unless > they lawyer up over at RH. And so far they have been more than nice. Check out www.piebox.com about what is absolutely needed and add that /etc/redhat-release. -- Raimo Koski http://www.lineox.com/ http://www.raimokoski.com/ From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Jul 20 09:19:41 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 03:19:41 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL (respin) with 875P Mobo In-Reply-To: <40FCADA0.3050602@sonic.net> References: <40FC068B.4000704@sonic.net> <1090288000.21745.17.camel@seipca109> <40FCADA0.3050602@sonic.net> Message-ID: <1090311581.27937.5.camel@Myth.home.local> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 00:29, Raymond Lillard wrote: > In "/usr/src", I created a symlink: ln -s linux-2.4.21-15.EL linux > creating a clean path to the sources tree of "/usr/src/linux". > > > In "/usr/src/linux", I executed: make oldconfig > The Fasttrak readme file instructs a "make clean", > but surely that is in error and I did not do it. > > Executing: insmod ft3xx.o > yields: > > root@ctifs1: insmod ft3xx.o > Warning: kernel-module version mismatch > ft3xx.o was compiled for kernel version 2.4.21-15.ELcustom > while this kernel is version 2.4.21-15.ELsmp In the /usr/src/linux directory, edit the file named Makefile ... look for a line: EXTRAVERSION = -15.ELcustom change it to: EXTRAVERSION = -15.ELsmp Then recompile the module... Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com From prelude_2_murder@yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 20 10:04:54 2004 From: prelude_2_murder@yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?first=20last?=) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:04:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: [WBEL-users] WB EL and the Via Nehemiah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040720090454.27720.qmail@web53103.mail.yahoo.com> I have WBEL running on a Via Eden (800Mhz CPU) and it runs perfectly, no problem whatsoever. Everything is recognised and works as expected. --- John Morris wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Ben Mohilef wrote: > > > Has anyone gotten this chip/board to run on WB EL or RH EL? > > Don't have that exact CPU, but WBEL has i586 support because we have > a > stack of FIC Falcons with EPIA/Eden series processors. What sort of > problems are you seeing? > > -- > John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ > Free! > Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* > r > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Brian Ipsen Tue Jul 20 12:17:02 2004 From: Brian Ipsen (Brian Ipsen) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:17:02 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat reference i httpd default page ? In-Reply-To: <40FCB368.5040203@raimokoski.com> Message-ID: Hi, I don't know if all references to RedHat should be removed - but the default page in the package httpd-2.0.46-32.ent.3.WB1 gives a default page like: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Test Page and further down: "For information on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, please visit the Red Hat, Inc. website. The documentation for Red Hat Enterprise Linux is available on the Red Hat, Inc. website" Maybe it needs to be modified ? /Brian From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Jul 20 13:36:13 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:36:13 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat reference i httpd default page ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090326973.27937.19.camel@Myth.home.local> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 06:17, Brian Ipsen wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know if all references to RedHat should be removed - but the > default page in the package httpd-2.0.46-32.ent.3.WB1 gives a default page > like: > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux Test Page > > and further down: > > "For information on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, please visit the Red Hat, Inc. > website. The documentation for Red Hat Enterprise Linux is available on the > Red Hat, Inc. website" > > Maybe it needs to be modified ? > First, Red Hat specifically states what HAS to be modified. It is only 2 packages: redhat-logos anaconda-images http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/page6.html Second, things that RedHat wrote, that are part of WBEL, should give Red Hat credit ... they developed and packaged it. I do agree that specific default web page should be modified to link to WBEL, but how long should that page be up ... only until you put a file in the root website directory. It is only a cosmetic change (for advertising WBEL) and not required. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com From maillists@crescentdigital.com Tue Jul 20 13:45:53 2004 From: maillists@crescentdigital.com (Jeff Maze) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:45:53 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] [OT] Deleting files by date In-Reply-To: <40FC3AED.7090007@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> Message-ID: <200407200848612.SM01060@jeffslaptop> Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to delete files by a certain date period (say over the last week). Our secondary mail server has over 4000 messages that are over a week old, etc (even though sendmail is setup to delete messages after 2.5 days in queue). I'd like to delete these messages that should have been deleted (leave 2.5 days worth of messages in the /var/spool/mqueue directory). Thanks.. From andyr@wizzy.com Tue Jul 20 14:41:16 2004 From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:41:16 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] [OT] Deleting files by date In-Reply-To: <200407200848612.SM01060@jeffslaptop> References: <40FC3AED.7090007@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> <200407200848612.SM01060@jeffslaptop> Message-ID: <20040720134116.GJ1363@wizzy.com> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Jeff Maze wrote: > Hello, > I was wondering if it's possible to delete files by a certain date > period (say over the last week). Our secondary mail server has over 4000 > messages that are over a week old, etc (even though sendmail is setup to > delete messages after 2.5 days in queue). I'd like to delete these messages > that should have been deleted (leave 2.5 days worth of messages in the > /var/spool/mqueue directory). > Thanks.. In the days of Usenet News there was only one place to ask questions and get answers. The Balkanisation of this into a myriad of mailing lists is a step backwards. Your question is best asked on a general Unix mailing list, your local Linux Users group, comp.os.linux.questions, or (better) a quick google. This list is to address issues specific to whitebox vs RHEL, installs, packages, configuration. To answer your question, "find" is your friend. find /path/to/sendmail/messages +ctime 7 | xargs rm Will probably do the job. To do it regularly, "man crontab" and "man 5 crontab". Cheers, Andy! From javanree@vanree.net Tue Jul 20 14:52:32 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:52:32 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] [OT] Deleting files by date In-Reply-To: <200407200848612.SM01060@jeffslaptop> References: <200407200848612.SM01060@jeffslaptop> Message-ID: <200407201552.33033.javanree@vanree.net> On Tuesday 20 July 2004 14:45, Jeff Maze wrote: > Hello, > I was wondering if it's possible to delete files by a certain date > period (say over the last week). Our secondary mail server has over 4000 > messages that are over a week old, etc (even though sendmail is setup to > delete messages after 2.5 days in queue). I'd like to delete these > messages that should have been deleted (leave 2.5 days worth of messages > in the /var/spool/mqueue directory). > Thanks.. Use the /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch script for this... it uses the tmpwatch script where you can specify the age before something gets nuked. -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From whitebox@elric.net Tue Jul 20 14:56:30 2004 From: whitebox@elric.net (Brent DiNicola) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:56:30 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Question about VNC trouble. Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040720084958.0211eec0@mail.elric.net> I know this might be slightly off topic but I wanted to get some feedback from this list. I have been using VNC on a RH 7.3 box without issue. This is how people use the Linux servers, through VNC and has been fine for months. I recently upgraded one of the 7.3 boxes to WBEL (Respin1) and was having them do the same thing. It seems to be ok if they use gnome, but if they use KDE in VNC .. the X session fries sooner or later. On startup it fries several of the KDE apps, leaving a core dump. About 4 of them.. including kdesplash. Soon after this the gconfd will exit with signal 1. When this happens of course this shuts down the whole VNC session. Has anyone run VNC with KDE on WBEL Respin 1 without trouble OR .. with any trouble. It appears that in the stack dumps they are all complaining at some point with libGL.so.1 which seems the only common complaint in the stack trace. Any ideas or suggestions? I have searched through various newsgroups and lists and I haven't found anyone else having this trouble with VNC. I would think others would notice and comment on it somewhere. Brent From linux@akelanetwork.com Tue Jul 20 14:01:01 2004 From: linux@akelanetwork.com (linux) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:01:01 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Error when starting perl in the command line mode Message-ID: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Hi all, I've tried to invoke: #perl -MCPAN -eshell and I got this error: Can't locate CPAN.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .). BEGIN failed--compilation aborted. I've googled it and saw many similar cases but not really helpful. People generally recommended to install CPAN.pm. The problem is I can't even get in the command line mode :) Any tips or should I reinstall perl from scratch? Thanks in advanced. From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 15:38:36 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] [OT] Deleting files by date In-Reply-To: <20040720134116.GJ1363@wizzy.com> References: <40FC3AED.7090007@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> <200407200848612.SM01060@jeffslaptop> <20040720134116.GJ1363@wizzy.com> Message-ID: <1365.12.29.16.103.1090334316.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Andy Rabagliati said: [snip] > This list is to address issues specific to whitebox vs RHEL, installs, > packages, configuration. Funny, when I go to the mailman page it says: "A mailing list for users of White Box Enterprise Linux to discuss issues." And the home whiteboxlinux.org homepage describes it as: "A list for general users of WBEL to discuss issues and generally help each other out." I don't see where either of these would exclude this question. -- William Hooperwww From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 15:55:10 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Error when starting perl in the command line mode In-Reply-To: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> References: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Message-ID: <2952.12.29.16.103.1090335310.squirrel@12.29.16.103> linux said: > Hi all, > > > I've tried to invoke: > #perl -MCPAN -eshell > > > and I got this error: Can't locate CPAN.pm in @INC (@INC contains: > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .). > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted. Silly question, do you have perl-CPAN installed? $ rpm -ql perl-CPAN /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/CPAN /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/CPAN.pm /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/CPAN/FirstTime.pm /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/CPAN/Nox.pm /usr/share/man/man3/CPAN.3pm.gz /usr/share/man/man3/CPAN::FirstTime.3pm.gz /usr/share/man/man3/CPAN::Nox.3pm.gz -- William Hooper From rninov@mailbg.com Tue Jul 20 16:17:06 2004 From: rninov@mailbg.com (Romeo Ninov) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:17:06 +0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] Error when starting perl in the command line mode In-Reply-To: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> References: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Message-ID: <1090336625.12140.3.camel@vgetov.jdc.iis> Try perl -MCPAN -e shell If this not work find on CD package with name perl-CPAN* and install it On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 16:01, linux wrote: > Hi all, > > I've tried to invoke: > #perl -MCPAN -eshell > > and I got this error: > Can't locate CPAN.pm in @INC (@INC contains: > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .). > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted. > > I've googled it and saw many similar cases but not really helpful. People > generally recommended to install CPAN.pm. The problem is I can't even get > in the command line mode :) > > Any tips or should I reinstall perl from scratch? > > Thanks in advanced. > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From andyr@wizzy.com Tue Jul 20 16:25:10 2004 From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:25:10 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Error when starting perl in the command line mode In-Reply-To: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> References: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Message-ID: <20040720152510.GK1363@wizzy.com> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, linux wrote: > Hi all, > > I've tried to invoke: > #perl -MCPAN -eshell > > and I got this error: > Can't locate CPAN.pm in @INC (@INC contains: # yum install perl-CPAN Cheers, Andy! From linux@akelanetwork.com Tue Jul 20 15:58:58 2004 From: linux@akelanetwork.com (linux) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:58:58 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Error when starting perl in the command line mode In-Reply-To: <20040720152510.GK1363@wizzy.com> References: <20040720130101.2281.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> <20040720152510.GK1363@wizzy.com> Message-ID: <20040720145858.3167.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Thank you all for the quick response. The problem is solved now. Here's a quick summary: 1. I mounted whitebox cdrom 2 and installed the CPAN module successfully 2. "yum install perl-CPAN" worked too. Cheers... From asparks@quris.com Tue Jul 20 17:29:19 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: 20 Jul 2004 10:29:19 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output Message-ID: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> This is kinda baffling me... can not duplicate it on any other Linux dist (such as RH 7.2 or Fedora Core 2). Not the best place to ask, but seems only symptomatic on WBEL. I have a script that is producing output like the following: $ mtabacklog |head 22 belsouth.net 20 verison.net 20 hotamil.com 18 yohoo.com 18 yaho.com 16 yhoo.com 16 hotmail. 12 earhtlink.net 10 aol.ocm 10 aol.comy /home/asparks/bin/mtabacklog: line 7: 3810 Done mailq -v 3811 | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' 3812 | sort 3813 | uniq -c 3814 Broken pipe | sort -nr I can't understand why bash on this WBEL 3.0 respin1 machine prints that job control. The script runs #!/bin/sh magic. Funny part is, If I change that to /bin/tcsh, no problem. /bin/sh or /bin/bash does, which makes me think bash issue, but I run it as bash elsewhere with no problem. Anyone seen similar braindeath before? -Alan ====== the script for reference ===== #!/bin/sh /opt/sendmail/mailq \ | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ | sort \ | uniq -c \ | sort -nr -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From ewan@macmahon.me.uk Tue Jul 20 17:27:16 2004 From: ewan@macmahon.me.uk (Ewan Mac Mahon) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:27:16 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat reference i httpd default page ? In-Reply-To: <1090326973.27937.19.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <1090326973.27937.19.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <20040720162716.GA24278@york.ac.uk> --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:36:13AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > I do agree that specific default web page should be modified to link > to WBEL, but how long should that page be up ... only until you put a > file in the root website directory. It is only a cosmetic change (for > advertising WBEL) and not required. > Indeed, but the httpd package already has WB specific modifications so it wouldn't add much overhead to include this in the patch as well; it's not like making a trivial change to a currently pristine package. Ewan=20 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/Ufky9yq6MKIKKQRAukpAJ9J1bGJrwfW9MEzyOMTX3lLx3Rq0gCcCt9y 0XtG8oIlNUWAx2sNYXE+D6I= =LHh/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From jmorris@beau.org Tue Jul 20 17:55:18 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:55:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] RedHat reference i httpd default page ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Brian Ipsen wrote: > I don't know if all references to RedHat should be removed - but the > default page in the package httpd-2.0.46-32.ent.3.WB1 gives a default page > like: Yup, something went wrong with this latest errata. The wb patch seems to have went in without throwing an error, just didn't actually do anything. I'll be hatching a replacement as soon as I figure it out. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From andyr@wizzy.com Tue Jul 20 18:37:05 2004 From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:37:05 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> Message-ID: <20040720173705.GA21227@wizzy.com> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Alan Sparks wrote: > ====== the script for reference ===== > #!/bin/sh > /opt/sendmail/mailq \ > | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ > | sort \ > | uniq -c \ > | sort -nr No lurking spaces after those backslashes ? Try sticking it all on one line ? md5sum the scripts on the different boxes just to make sure ? Cheers, Andy! From jafar00@wanadoo.fr Tue Jul 20 18:50:52 2004 From: jafar00@wanadoo.fr (jafar) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:50:52 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re:Question about VNC trouble. (Brent DiNicola) Message-ID: <1090345852.11209.3.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> I tried VNC a while back and found it to be a little slow and troublesome. Have you investigated doing the remote X Session by XDMCP? I use XMDCP to run a remote session on an underpowered PII366 128Mb RAM Laptop. The server is an AthlonXP 2000+ with 512Mb RAM so you can imagine the difference this makes to running Gnome on the Laptop ;) It's like an upgrade. By contrast, running the session via vnc was a bit slow and choppy at times and tended to use more cpu power on the server. Give XDMCP a try. You won't regret it :) -- Jafar Calley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ !tv D+ G e* h---- x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Registered Linux User #359623 http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org From kbohling@birddog.com Tue Jul 20 20:51:18 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:51:18 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] [OT] Deleting files by date In-Reply-To: <20040720134116.GJ1363@wizzy.com> References: <40FC3AED.7090007@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> <200407200848612.SM01060@jeffslaptop> <20040720134116.GJ1363@wizzy.com> Message-ID: <20040720195116.GA11118@hawk.birddog.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 03:41:16PM +0200, Andy Rabagliati wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Jeff Maze wrote: > > > Hello, > > I was wondering if it's possible to delete files by a certain date > > period (say over the last week). Our secondary mail server has over 4000 > > messages that are over a week old, etc (even though sendmail is setup to > > delete messages after 2.5 days in queue). I'd like to delete these messages > > that should have been deleted (leave 2.5 days worth of messages in the > > /var/spool/mqueue directory). > > Thanks.. > > In the days of Usenet News there was only one place to ask questions and > get answers. The Balkanisation of this into a myriad of mailing lists is > a step backwards. > > Your question is best asked on a general Unix mailing list, your local Linux > Users group, comp.os.linux.questions, or (better) a quick google. > > This list is to address issues specific to whitebox vs RHEL, installs, > packages, configuration. > > To answer your question, "find" is your friend. > > find /path/to/sendmail/messages +ctime 7 | xargs rm > > Will probably do the job. > > To do it regularly, "man crontab" and "man 5 crontab". Personally, if I had to deal with it, I'd happily run tmpwatch to do the job. It's a tool meant to deal with this. It should already be in a crontab entry that runs, all you have to do is add the directory you want watched. Go to this: /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch Add a line like this at the beginning: /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 720 /path/to/sendmail/message Furthermore if I was going to do it with find, I'd use the -exec option, not the | "xargs rm" some clever fellow could do something like create a file named "-rf /", and you'll end up deleting the whole machine. Anytime I'm going to use "rm" with find, it's an exec command, as I don't have to worry about any type of escaping or shell commands. There are lots of clever things like files with spaces, or with newlines in then name that are a problem. I've found that -exec always works. I also think you have the syntax wrong, +ctime on my machine gives an error. This I believe is what you meant: find /path/to/sendmail/messages -ctime +7 Personally I'd do that with find like this: find /path/to/messages -ctime +7 -exec rm {} \; -print It's slower, but it's also safer. Finally, I have no problems with people sending generic Linux questions assuming two things: 1. There isn't an obvious answer they can just look up (i.e. the guys who ask, "What version of PHP does Whitebox have"). 2. They aren't flooding the list with questions. It's a pretty low volume list, and I've found the answers sent to the list to be inciteful. I've been using Linux for 9 years, and RedHat in particular for at least 7. I've admin'ed lots of machines, and I know that William Hooper periodically sends a message that I'm happy to learn what his answer is. I know that Johnny Hughes Jr. sends things that don't fit your version of what this list should be for. However, I think the list is better off for his posts. I try and answer my fair share of questions, and would like to think I'm reasonably smart when it comes to Linux. So I guess I'd hate to see the questions get discouraged. However, I don't run the list, so my opinion is just that, my opinion. Thanks, Kirby > > Cheers, Andy! > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From asparks@quris.com Tue Jul 20 20:55:51 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:55:51 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <20040720173705.GA21227@wizzy.com> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> <20040720173705.GA21227@wizzy.com> Message-ID: <40FD78C7.5050405@quris.com> Andy Rabagliati wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Alan Sparks wrote: > > >>====== the script for reference ===== >>#!/bin/sh >>/opt/sendmail/mailq \ >> | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ >> | sort \ >> | uniq -c \ >> | sort -nr > > > No lurking spaces after those backslashes ? Nope. Been there, done that... > Try sticking it all on one line ? Nope, been there, done that... :-) > md5sum the scripts on the different boxes just to make sure ? Script is identical. No strange bits. Apparently the problem is bash's reaction to SIGPIPE. Bash is reporting a 'broken pipe' on the last command in the script pipeline, caused by the "head" I pipe the script output into (viz: "mtabacklog | head"). So far I've been trying to understand why it's so different between WBEL (and I suppose it'd be the same on RHEL) and everything else (like older RH releases and on Fedora). -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From obsd2003@yahoo.com Tue Jul 20 21:02:07 2004 From: obsd2003@yahoo.com (Ken Wood) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Some newbie questions Message-ID: <20040720200207.64052.qmail@web60803.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2059697506-1090353727=:62757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To Everyone, I'm new at this site,but I'm not new to Linux. I'm just curious at this White Box Linux. I wanted to find a viable alternative to RHEL. Does White Box Linux support Native posix threads?. How about information on it's security?. Has anyone tried LIDS into White Box,yet?. Thanks if anyone attempts to help. Sincerely, KEn --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. --0-2059697506-1090353727=:62757 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

To Everyone,

I'm new at this site,but I'm not new to Linux. I'm just curious at this White Box Linux. I wanted to find a viable alternative to RHEL.

Does White Box Linux support Native posix threads?.

How about information on it's security?.

Has anyone tried LIDS into White Box,yet?.

Thanks if anyone attempts to help.

Sincerely,

KEn

Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. --0-2059697506-1090353727=:62757-- From kbohling@birddog.com Tue Jul 20 21:18:16 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:18:16 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <40FD78C7.5050405@quris.com> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> <20040720173705.GA21227@wizzy.com> <40FD78C7.5050405@quris.com> Message-ID: <20040720201815.GB11118@hawk.birddog.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:55:51PM -0600, Alan Sparks wrote: > Andy Rabagliati wrote: > >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Alan Sparks wrote: > > > > > >>====== the script for reference ===== > >>#!/bin/sh > >>/opt/sendmail/mailq \ > >> | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ > >> | sort \ > >> | uniq -c \ > >> | sort -nr > > > > > >No lurking spaces after those backslashes ? > > Nope. Been there, done that... > > >Try sticking it all on one line ? > > Nope, been there, done that... :-) > > >md5sum the scripts on the different boxes just to make sure ? > > Script is identical. No strange bits. > Apparently the problem is bash's reaction to SIGPIPE. Bash is reporting > a 'broken pipe' on the last command in the script pipeline, caused by > the "head" I pipe the script output into (viz: "mtabacklog | head"). I run that script without problem. My only difference is, I'm using /usr/bin/mailq. And the data I am getting looks completely sane. Some how I think you are seeing a data error with escaping. Have you tried moving the data over to a Fedora Core machine? So the input data is exactly the same. I can't remember for sure, but doesn't tcsh have a specific list of things to does differently (I want to say, {}, (), environment variables, and something else get treated differently, which is why Oracle ships two versions of oraenv, one to use in a Bourne style shell, and one to use in a C-Shell style shell.). I've only used bash, so you have me. I'd try running partial versions of that pipeline and see what comes out of it. Something is getting lost in there. I've seen the SIGPIPE thing on several versions of RedHat. My guess is that something is going on in that perl script which is causing it to do something crazy and end the escaping (I'm not enough of a perl hacker to know), the rest of the commands look completely sane to me, and nothing I know of could go wrong. I'd want to see the full text of the output of the mailq command to look at. If you don't care, post it a URL I can grab it from and I look at it. Thanks, Kirby > > So far I've been trying to understand why it's so different between WBEL > (and I suppose it'd be the same on RHEL) and everything else (like older > RH releases and on Fedora). > > -- > Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com > Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From asparks@quris.com Tue Jul 20 21:42:06 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:42:06 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <20040720201815.GB11118@hawk.birddog.com> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> <20040720173705.GA21227@wizzy.com> <40FD78C7.5050405@quris.com> <20040720201815.GB11118@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: <40FD839E.1030502@quris.com> Kirby Bohling wrote: > Some how I think you are seeing a data error with escaping. Have > you tried moving the data over to a Fedora Core machine? So the > input data is exactly the same. Yes, as I said I have tested the exact same stuff on FC2 and bash does not throw all the job completion stuff. Only on WBEL. > > I can't remember for sure, but doesn't tcsh have a specific list > of things to does differently (I want to say, {}, (), environment Yes, tcsh is wildly different. 'twas a data point. Not that I'd every script production in tcsh... > > I'd try running partial versions of that pipeline and see what comes > out of it. Something is getting lost in there. I've seen the > SIGPIPE thing on several versions of RedHat. My guess is that > something is going on in that perl script which is causing it to do > something crazy and end the escaping (I'm not enough of a perl > hacker to know), the rest of the commands look completely sane to I've done that for the last 24 hours. Replacing the perl part of the pipeline with a plain "cat" does not change the behavior at all (well, program output is wrong of course, but bash still throws the job completion line). It's the way bash is handling the broken-pipe situation on the |head part -- I know that since just running the script or piping it into a tail or more does not invoke the problem. -Alan -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From kbohling@birddog.com Tue Jul 20 21:42:18 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:42:18 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> Message-ID: <20040720204217.GA11492@hawk.birddog.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:29:19AM -0600, Alan Sparks wrote: > /home/asparks/bin/mtabacklog: line 7: 3810 Done > mailq -v > 3811 | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && > print "$1\n"' > 3812 | sort > 3813 | uniq -c > 3814 Broken pipe | sort -nr > Something isn't correct. You either aren't running what you think you are, or there is a cut and paste gone bad.... Your above command says "3810 Done mailq -v" However, your script doesn't runs "mailq", not "mailq -v". So now I'm worried about that then I am about anything else. Either you aren't posting exactly what you are running, or you aren't running what you think you are. Finally, why is "mailq -v" on line 7? The script you posted has "mailq" on the second line? Is "/opt/sendmail/mailq" a script by chance? Thanks, Kirby > ====== the script for reference ===== > #!/bin/sh > /opt/sendmail/mailq \ > | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ > | sort \ > | uniq -c \ > | sort -nr > > > -- > Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com > Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From asparks@quris.com Tue Jul 20 21:49:54 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:49:54 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <20040720204217.GA11492@hawk.birddog.com> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> <20040720204217.GA11492@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: <40FD8572.1010805@quris.com> Ok, so "-v" or not. A cut/paste a little out of sync. Doesn't matter, same result no matter what I put in there. The code runs perfectly on RH 7.2, FC2, and Solaris with a bash shell. And no, /opt/sendmail/mailq is Sendmail code, not a script. And it's working fine too, I've checked that very carefully. -Alan Kirby Bohling wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:29:19AM -0600, Alan Sparks wrote: > > > >>/home/asparks/bin/mtabacklog: line 7: 3810 Done >>mailq -v >> 3811 | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && >>print "$1\n"' >> 3812 | sort >> 3813 | uniq -c >> 3814 Broken pipe | sort -nr >> > > > > Something isn't correct. You either aren't running what you think > you are, or there is a cut and paste gone bad.... > > Your above command says "3810 Done mailq -v" > > However, your script doesn't runs "mailq", not "mailq -v". So now > I'm worried about that then I am about anything else. Either you > aren't posting exactly what you are running, or you aren't running > what you think you are. Finally, why is "mailq -v" on line 7? The > script you posted has "mailq" on the second line? > > Is "/opt/sendmail/mailq" a script by chance? > > Thanks, > Kirby > > >>====== the script for reference ===== >>#!/bin/sh >>/opt/sendmail/mailq \ >> | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ >> | sort \ >> | uniq -c \ >> | sort -nr >> >> >>-- >>Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com >>Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Whitebox-users mailing list >>Whitebox-users@beau.org >>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >> -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From ekg@tricity.wsu.edu Tue Jul 20 21:57:33 2004 From: ekg@tricity.wsu.edu (Ed) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:57:33 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Some newbie questions In-Reply-To: <20040720200207.64052.qmail@web60803.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040720200207.64052.qmail@web60803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40FD873D.3070908@tricity.wsu.edu> Ken Wood wrote: > To Everyone, > > I'm new at this site,but I'm not new to Linux. I'm just curious at this > White Box Linux. I wanted to find a viable alternative to RHEL. > > Does White Box Linux support Native posix threads?. Yes. > How about information on it's security?. It is as secure as Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > Has anyone tried LIDS into White Box,yet?. FYI, LIDS is not secure. It is trivial to break out of. (I don't know if LIDS works on WBEL or not.) > > Thanks if anyone attempts to help. > > Sincerely, > KEn > > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail > > - You care about security. So do we. From asparks@quris.com Tue Jul 20 22:02:21 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:02:21 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <20040720204217.GA11492@hawk.birddog.com> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> <20040720204217.GA11492@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: <40FD885D.30003@quris.com> Kirby Bohling wrote: > Something isn't correct. You either aren't running what you think > you are, or there is a cut and paste gone bad.... K, I sure this is getting off-topic for this list, but anyway... Code as of this afternoon: #!/bin/sh PATH=/opt/sendmail:/opt/sendmail/bin:$PATH mailq -v \ | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ | sort \ | uniq -c \ | sort -nr Just for fun, to show that the basic problem is bash and its SIGPIPE behavior: $ mtabacklog |awk 'NR<10 {print}' 22 belsouth.net 20 verison.net 20 hotamil.com 18 yohoo.com 18 yaho.com 16 yhoo.com 16 hotmail. 12 earhtlink.net 10 aol.ocm [asparks@testemail11 asparks]$ $ mtabacklog |head 22 belsouth.net 20 verison.net 20 hotamil.com 18 yohoo.com 18 yaho.com 16 yhoo.com 16 hotmail. 12 earhtlink.net 10 aol.ocm 10 aol.comy /home/asparks/bin/mtabacklog: line 7: 14830 Done mailq -v 14831 | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' 14832 | sort 14833 | uniq -c 14834 Broken pipe | sort -nr [asparks@testemail11 asparks]$ Hell, at this point I'm not sure where the real problem is, bash or coreutils. Or just this week... -Alan -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From kbohling@birddog.com Tue Jul 20 22:34:24 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:34:24 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <40FD8572.1010805@quris.com> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> <20040720204217.GA11492@hawk.birddog.com> <40FD8572.1010805@quris.com> Message-ID: <20040720213423.GB11492@hawk.birddog.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 02:49:54PM -0600, Alan Sparks wrote: > Ok, so "-v" or not. A cut/paste a little out of sync. Doesn't matter, > same result no matter what I put in there. > The code runs perfectly on RH 7.2, FC2, and Solaris with a bash shell. > And no, /opt/sendmail/mailq is Sendmail code, not a script. And it's > working fine too, I've checked that very carefully. > -Alan I'm not sure because it's e-mail, but I read that like your annoyed with me for questioning details. You might have started 24 hours ago, but I just saw this 30 minutes ago. It'd help more if you'd say what you tried if only just a summary. You're running what appears to be a non-WBEL version of Sendmail, and saying that running a shell script and piping into head doesn't work. I've found that normally, it's best to eliminate other possibilities before assuming that /bin/bash or head have a bug. I'm not trying to be snippy, but when you post that /bin/bash and/or head don't work the details sorta matter. I've seen lots of odd ball problems end up being, a pathing issue, a mis-escaped argument, or think you are running a binary, when you are really running a shell script that is a wrapper for a binary. I'm just trying to eliminate those. Generally, that's more likely then a bug in the piping code in "bash" IMHO. I run head and bash a lot. I'd like to think they work. As you well know, it's the details that give you the clues to the problem... My paycheck depends on those utilities working, so you have my full attention. I'd really like to know what is going on. I've taken the output of "mailq" from a RH7.1 machine, duplicated it enough times so that there's 1.4 million lines of data, then I run this: foo.sh | head, where foo.sh has this for contents: #!/bin/sh cat mailq.tmp \ | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ | sort \ | uniq -c \ | sort -nr mailq.tmp has the 1.4 Million lines on it. I run it thru head on my desktop WBEL3.0 while fully updated machine, without a problem. No SIGPIPE, no nothing, just the output you'd expect. Everything runs like a champ. For whatever that knowledge is worth. I can't duplicate your problem. You can easily see if you can duplicate my results and see if they come out the same. If they don't match, I'd start from a fresh WBEL install my machine is completely stock, I just use it to SSH to other machines. I get the impression I'm just irritating you. So good luck, and report back if you figure it out. Hope this helps, Kirby > > Kirby Bohling wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:29:19AM -0600, Alan Sparks wrote: > > > > > > > >>/home/asparks/bin/mtabacklog: line 7: 3810 Done > >>mailq -v > >> 3811 | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && > >>print "$1\n"' > >> 3812 | sort > >> 3813 | uniq -c > >> 3814 Broken pipe | sort -nr > >> > > > > > > > >Something isn't correct. You either aren't running what you think > >you are, or there is a cut and paste gone bad.... > > > >Your above command says "3810 Done mailq -v" > > > >However, your script doesn't runs "mailq", not "mailq -v". So now > >I'm worried about that then I am about anything else. Either you > >aren't posting exactly what you are running, or you aren't running > >what you think you are. Finally, why is "mailq -v" on line 7? The > >script you posted has "mailq" on the second line? > > > >Is "/opt/sendmail/mailq" a script by chance? > > > > Thanks, > > Kirby > > > > > >>====== the script for reference ===== > >>#!/bin/sh > >>/opt/sendmail/mailq \ > >> | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && print "$1\n"' \ > >> | sort \ > >> | uniq -c \ > >> | sort -nr > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com > >>Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Whitebox-users mailing list > >>Whitebox-users@beau.org > >>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > >> > > > -- > Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com > Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Wed Jul 21 00:03:34 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:03:34 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Some newbie questions In-Reply-To: <20040720200207.64052.qmail@web60803.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040720200207.64052.qmail@web60803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1090364614.14915.4.camel@Myth.home.local> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 15:02, Ken Wood wrote: > To Everyone, > > I'm new at this site,but I'm not new to Linux. I'm just curious at > this White Box Linux. I wanted to find a viable alternative to RHEL. > WhiteBox is the RHEL SRPMS compiled ... nothing more, nothing less. Except yum has been added as an update option ... and some of the packages have been edited to remove references to RHEL. Basically, WHEL does exactly what RHEL does. > Does White Box Linux support Native posix threads?. > How about information on it's security?. > Has anyone tried LIDS into White Box,yet?. > Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com From jamesk@ifm-services.com Wed Jul 21 00:24:14 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:24:14 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Java Development on WBEL? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FDA99E.8050900@ifm-services.com> >And using Jpackage is easy. Just look in > Ahhh.... thanks! -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From rlillard@sonic.net Wed Jul 21 01:23:41 2004 From: rlillard@sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:23:41 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL (respin) with 875P Mobo In-Reply-To: <1090308342.3247.24.camel@seipca109> References: <40FC068B.4000704@sonic.net> <1090288000.21745.17.camel@seipca109> <40FCADA0.3050602@sonic.net> <1090308342.3247.24.camel@seipca109> Message-ID: <40FDB78D.3040505@sonic.net> Pierre-Francois Honore wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 07:29, Raymond Lillard wrote: > >>Pierre-Francois Honore wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 19:36, Raymond Lillard wrote: >>> >>>>I would like to install WBEL (respin) on an >>>>ASUS P4C800-E mobo. >>> >>>I did that on a Dell Precision WorkStation with a Promise FastTrak S150 >>>tx2 equivalent to the PDC 20378 controller of our ASUS P4C800-E mobo. I >>>have used a standard IDE drive during the installation and compiled the >>>driver from : >>>http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=107&category=All&os=100 >> >>Monsieur, >> >>I gave the module you suggested a try without success. >>I will list my steps so you can tell me if and/or where >>I ran off the rails. >> >>I downloaded: >> >>http://www.promise.com/support/file/driver/1_fasttrak_s150_tx_partial_source_1.00.0.19.zip > > > I have downloaded the 1.00.0.15 version Great!! I'll try it when I get my even bigger problem fixed. >>which seems to be most recent release for Linux. >> >> >>In "/usr/src", I created a symlink: ln -s linux-2.4.21-15.EL linux >>creating a clean path to the sources tree of "/usr/src/linux". >> > > > I am using the last kernel version: kernel-smp-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.i686.rpm > and kernel-source-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.i386.rpm. OK. I'll get that too. Maybe it will fix my bigger problem. >>In "/usr/src/linux", I executed: make oldconfig >>The Fasttrak readme file instructs a "make clean", >>but surely that is in error and I did not do it. >> > > > Did you copy /boot/config-2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp as .config before make > oldconfig. Yes. >>Executing: insmod ft3xx.o >>yields: >> >>root@ctifs1: insmod ft3xx.o >>Warning: kernel-module version mismatch >> ft3xx.o was compiled for kernel version 2.4.21-15.ELcustom >> while this kernel is version 2.4.21-15.ELsmp > > > To supress this warning you have to edit the Makefile inside the kernel > tree and modify the line : 'EXTRAVERSION = .....custom' to > 'EXTRAVERSION = .....smp' Yes, I know. I'll fix it when it matters. >>Warning: loading ft3xx.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - >>Proprietary >> See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about >>tainted modules >>Warning: loading ft3xx.o will taint the kernel: forced load >>ft3xx.o: init_module: No such device >>Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, >>including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. >> You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg >> > > > After loading I have : > > # lsmod | grep ft3xx > ft3xx 213452 4 > scsi_mod 118696 6 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi ft3xx mptscsih > sd_mod] > > # dmesg > PROMISE FastTrak TX4000/376/378/S150 TX Series Linux Driver Version > 1.00.0.15 > scsi2 : ft3xx > Vendor: Promise Model: 1+0 Stripe/RAID0 Rev: 1.10 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Vendor: Promise Model: 1+0 Stripe/RAID0 Rev: 1.10 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Attached scsi disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 > SCSI device sda: 488281088 512-byte hdwr sectors (250000 MB) > Partition check: > sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 > SCSI device sdb: 488281088 512-byte hdwr sectors (250000 MB) > sdb: sdb1 My bigger problem: It seems that it is absolutely not possible to boot an ASUS P4C800-E with a WBEL stock kernel with the IDE configured in the "Enhanced" mode. In the "Compatible" I lose access to my normal IDE devices when I enable access to the SATA drives. I have 2 HDs on my Primary channel and 1 CDRW as master on the Secondary channel. The BIOS menu tree requires one to choose either the Primary or Secondary channel when the SATA channels are enabled. Access is denied to the unchosen one. I must have access to all of my normal IDE devices for this system, therefore if I am to use WBEL, and that is my preference, I must find a way to run it with the "Enhanced" mode selected. That is what I am working on now. WBEL and the ASUS P4C800-E are a difficult pairing. In my case, I am placing the OS on the Pri-Master (hda). I intend to do a nightly mirror of hda to the Sec- Master (hdb) so in the event of a hda failure, a ready to go drive is, ready. I will put the Samba partition on the SATA drives. My question for you: Did you use the "Compatible" mode for your installation? If you used the "Enhanced" mode, please share with how you did it. Thank for listening, Ray From kbohling@birddog.com Wed Jul 21 02:41:10 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:41:10 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> Message-ID: <20040721014110.GH11492@hawk.birddog.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:29:19AM -0600, Alan Sparks wrote: > This is kinda baffling me... can not duplicate it on any other Linux > dist (such as RH 7.2 or Fedora Core 2). Not the best place to ask, but > seems only symptomatic on WBEL. > > I have a script that is producing output like the following: > $ mtabacklog |head > 22 belsouth.net > 20 verison.net > 20 hotamil.com > 18 yohoo.com > 18 yaho.com > 16 yhoo.com > 16 hotmail. > 12 earhtlink.net > 10 aol.ocm > 10 aol.comy > /home/asparks/bin/mtabacklog: line 7: 3810 Done > mailq -v > 3811 | perl -n -e '/^\s+\<.*\@(.*)\>/ && > print "$1\n"' > 3812 | sort > 3813 | uniq -c > 3814 Broken pipe | sort -nr I've got a setup that will easily reproduce this without any other extranous stuff, all the sendmail/perl/sort stuff is extraneous: create a script named bar.sh, that has the following contents: #!/bin/sh dd if=/dev/zero bs=5k count=1 | cat | cat | cat # End of bar.sh. (Side note: for this to happen, you have to fill the buffer, in Linux the default pipe size is 4k, so I write 5k to be sure that the pipeline will have to block, if you do this on a different OS, you'll need to be sure that you fill the pipe buffer). Now run this: [root@hermes /root]# ./bar.sh | dd bs=1k count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1+0 records in 1+0 records out ./bar.sh: line 3: 17212 Done dd if=/dev/zero bs=5k count=1 17213 | cat 17214 | cat 17215 Broken pipe | cat I get the same problem on RHEL2.1, WBEL3.0, RH7.2, RH7.1. I don't have any RH 7.3/8.0/9 machines handy. However, on RH6.2 does *NOT* have this problem. That's probably because it's bash v1, instead of bash v2. After looking into the error, I found out it's actually a FAQ: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2003-03/msg00083.html Look for question E2. So I'd say this is a "Works as Designed (WAD)" issue. There is a way to disable that, but it's a compile time issue. Thanks, Kirby From Stefan.Sabolowitsch@feltengmbh.de Wed Jul 21 11:22:35 2004 From: Stefan.Sabolowitsch@feltengmbh.de (Stefan Sabolowitsch) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:22:35 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] OT: best IDS / Securesystem with / for WBEL Message-ID: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> Ask onto the experts : -) . How do I make my server(s) secure? What is the best combination? To example with samhain + snare + snort (possibly with central log server for that). Who collected which experiences? To thanks for your ideas and tips Stefan From linux@akelanetwork.com Wed Jul 21 10:35:47 2004 From: linux@akelanetwork.com (linux) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 05:35:47 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Newbie - Installing X-Windows/KDE/GNOME Message-ID: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Hi, I've installed whitebox as a barebone system. Now, I would like to install X Windows, KDE, and GNOME. What would be the proper way to do it (preferred yum)? Thanks a lot. From gri0941@exchange.uta.edu Wed Jul 21 15:17:01 2004 From: gri0941@exchange.uta.edu (Ganeshram Iyer) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:17:01 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables In-Reply-To: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> Message-ID: <40FE7ADD.90506@exchange.uta.edu> Hello all, I am a newbie to Linux and am trying to configure my firewall to a decent level. I used the script generator at http://www.lowth.com/LinWiz/1.09 to generate my iptables scripts. But I am still in the dark as to what I need to do with this script? Do I just need to copy it to some directory or do I need to execute is as a shell script? I dont know if this is the right place to ask this question but my searches have not yielded any results. Thanks a bunch in advance. Ganesh ==================================================================================== *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :ADDRESS-FILTER - [0:0] :LINWIZ-INPUT - [0:0] :REJECT-PKT - [0:0] :SYN-FLOOD - [0:0] -A INPUT -j LINWIZ-INPUT ###################################################################### # Allow all loopback interface traffic -A LINWIZ-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT # Block all attempts to spoof the loopback address -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j LOG --log-prefix "SPOOFED-LOOPBACK: " -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j DROP -A LINWIZ-INPUT -d 127.0.0.0/8 -j LOG --log-prefix "SPOOFED-LOOPBACK: " -A LINWIZ-INPUT -d 127.0.0.0/8 -j DROP # Block all attempts to spoof the local IP address -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 192.168.0.107 -j LOG --log-prefix "SPOOFED-IP: " -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 192.168.0.107 -j DROP # Block Syn Flood attacks -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --syn -j SYN-FLOOD # Ensure that TCP connections start with syn packets -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j LOG --log-prefix "SYN-EXPECTED: " -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP # Allow session continuation traffic -A LINWIZ-INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT # Call the IP and MAC address filtering chain -A LINWIZ-INPUT -j ADDRESS-FILTER # Allow ICMP ping requests from allowed hosts -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type ping -j ACCEPT # Allow selected TCP/IP and/or UDP services -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 139 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 515 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 631 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 901 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1512 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 6000 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 10000 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 137:138 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 177 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1512 -j ACCEPT -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --sport 137:138 -j ACCEPT # Block all other TCP/IP and UDP traffic -A LINWIZ-INPUT -j REJECT-PKT ###################################################################### # Syn flood filtering chain -A SYN-FLOOD -m limit --limit 1/s --limit-burst 4 -j RETURN -A SYN-FLOOD -j LOG --log-prefix "SYN-FLOOD: " -A SYN-FLOOD -j DROP ###################################################################### # Chain used to reject all TCP/IP, UDP and ICMP/PING packets -A REJECT-PKT -p udp -m udp --sport 137:138 --dport 137:138 -j DROP -A REJECT-PKT -p tcp -m tcp -j LOG -A REJECT-PKT -p tcp -m tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset -A REJECT-PKT -p udp -m udp -j LOG -A REJECT-PKT -p udp -m udp -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A REJECT-PKT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type ping -j LOG -A REJECT-PKT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type ping -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-unreachable ###################################################################### # IP and MAC address filtering chain -A ADDRESS-FILTER -s 192.168.0.100/20 -j RETURN -A ADDRESS-FILTER -j REJECT-PKT ============================================================================================================== COMMIT From jamesk@ifm-services.com Wed Jul 21 16:10:48 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:10:48 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Newbie - Installing X-Windows/KDE/GNOME In-Reply-To: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> References: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Message-ID: <40FE8778.2060001@ifm-services.com> > I've installed whitebox as a barebone system. Now, I would like to > install X Why didn't you install WB as a workstation instead of a barebones install? That's the easy way. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From jamesk@ifm-services.com Wed Jul 21 16:19:24 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:19:24 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] OT: best IDS / Securesystem with / for WBEL In-Reply-To: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> Message-ID: <40FE897C.5080102@ifm-services.com> >How do I make my server(s) secure? > > Google for "hardening" and "linux". -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From ivan@pechorin.com Wed Jul 21 16:27:07 2004 From: ivan@pechorin.com (Ivan Pechorin) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:27:07 +0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables In-Reply-To: <40FE7ADD.90506@exchange.uta.edu> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40FE7ADD.90506@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <1090423627.2292.22.camel@notebook.home> Ganeshram Iyer wrote: > I am a newbie to Linux and am trying to configure my firewall to a > decent level. I used the script generator at > http://www.lowth.com/LinWiz/1.09 to generate my iptables scripts. But I > am still in the dark as to what I need to do with this script? Do I just > need to copy it to some directory or do I need to execute is as a shell > script? There is more simple and secure way to configure your firewall, assuming that you use Whitebox or Red Hat Linux. Type the "redhat-config-securitylevel" command in a shell prompt to launch the Security Level Configuration Tool. If you are not root, it prompts you for the root password to continue. See Redhat-specific documentation for details: https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/ch-basic-firewall.html https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/security-guide/s1-wstation-firewall.html https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/security-guide/ch-fw.html -- Ivan Pechorin From javanree@vanree.net Wed Jul 21 17:38:20 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:38:20 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Newbie - Installing X-Windows/KDE/GNOME In-Reply-To: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> References: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Message-ID: <200407211838.20850.javanree@vanree.net> On Wednesday 21 July 2004 11:35, linux wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed whitebox as a barebone system. Now, I would like to > install X Windows, KDE, and GNOME. What would be the proper way to do it > (preferred yum)? yum install kdebase That should take along all dependancies and give you a basic KDE setup, although you'll most likely also need kdepim , kdenetwork , kdegraphics and kdemultimedia For office needs, koffice would be a good idea. Sorry, only experienced with KDE, perhaps a GNOME user could list minimum needs for that system. -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From neil@jollycom.ca Wed Jul 21 18:21:09 2004 From: neil@jollycom.ca (Neil Jolly) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:21:09 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP5 Message-ID: <1090430469.8531.22.camel@biathlon.jollycom.ca> Has anyone successfully built php5 for whitebox. I keep getting compile errors right at the end of the build related to files or directories not found. I googled for the errors and found several messages for similar errors blamed on a broken libtool shipped with redhat. Any help or suggestions you compile masters can contribute would be appreciated. -- Neil Jolly (with Yoda-like voice) "Confrontation leads to anger... Anger leads to fear... Fear leads to using Windows NT in mission-critical combat systems... And this is how the ancients fell... From rdieter@math.unl.edu Wed Jul 21 18:31:56 2004 From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:31:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP5 In-Reply-To: <1090430469.8531.22.camel@biathlon.jollycom.ca> References: <1090430469.8531.22.camel@biathlon.jollycom.ca> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Neil Jolly wrote: > Has anyone successfully built php5 for whitebox. I keep getting compile > errors right at the end of the build related to files or directories not > found. Perhaps if you posted more details about the build errors, we could help. -- Rex From asparks@quris.com Wed Jul 21 19:05:13 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: 21 Jul 2004 12:05:13 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] bash causes sporadic job control output In-Reply-To: <20040721014110.GH11492@hawk.birddog.com> References: <1090340959.32276.15.camel@asparks> <20040721014110.GH11492@hawk.birddog.com> Message-ID: <1090433113.30997.40.camel@asparks> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 19:41, Kirby Bohling wrote: > After looking into the error, I found out it's actually a FAQ: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2003-03/msg00083.html > > Look for question E2. > > So I'd say this is a "Works as Designed (WAD)" issue. There is a > way to disable that, but it's a compile time issue. I had seen that FAQ, but the randomness and uneven behavior of this across the various distributions had me pretty thrown as to its applicability in this case. Tests on a RHEL3 AS server shows the same results. A report filed with Red Hat's Bugzilla has been worked, ticket is at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128274 Basically comes down to "rebuild with DONT_REPORT_SIGPIPE," which they claim will be done in "future releases." -Alan -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From neil@jollycom.ca Wed Jul 21 19:05:46 2004 From: neil@jollycom.ca (Neil Jolly) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:05:46 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP5 In-Reply-To: References: <1090430469.8531.22.camel@biathlon.jollycom.ca> Message-ID: <1090433146.9250.47.camel@biathlon.jollycom.ca> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 11:31, Rex Dieter wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Neil Jolly wrote: > > > Has anyone successfully built php5 for whitebox. I keep getting compile > > errors right at the end of the build related to files or directories not > > found. > > Perhaps if you posted more details about the build errors, we could help. > Here's what I've deemed relevant from the build attempt: + rm -rf /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot + mkdir -p /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/lib/apache + install -m 0755 .libs/libphp5.so /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/lib/apache + mkdir -p /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/bin + install -m 0755 sapi/cli/php /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/bin + install -m 0755 sapi/cgi/php /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/bin/php_cgi + mkdir -p /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/share/man/man1 + install -m 0755 sapi/cli/php.1 /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/share/man/man1 + mkdir -p /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/etc + install -m 0755 php.ini-recommended /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/etc/php.ini + mkdir -p /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/lib/php/extensions + install -m 0755 'modules/*.so' /var/tmp/php5-5.0.0-buildroot/usr/lib/php/extensions install: cannot stat `modules/*.so': No such file or directory error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.51612 (%install) Here's the configure options for the standalone portion of the build: ./configure --prefix=/usr \ --with-config-file-path=%{_sysconfdir} \ --disable-cli \ --without-pear \ --enable-force-cgi-redirect \ --enable-safe-mode \ --with-exec-dir=/usr/bin \ --with-mysql \ --with-zlib \ --enable-xml \ --enable-wddx \ --with-gd \ --enable-shared \ Here's the build options for the apache module: ./configure --prefix=/usr \ --with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs \ --enable-cli \ --with-config-file-path=%{_sysconfdir} \ --enable-safe-mode \ --with-exec-dir=/usr/bin \ --with-mysql \ --with-zlib \ --enable-xml \ --enable-wddx \ --with-gd \ --enable-shared \ -- Neil Jolly (with Yoda-like voice) "Confrontation leads to anger... Anger leads to fear... Fear leads to using Windows NT in mission-critical combat systems... And this is how the ancients fell... From ivan@pechorin.com Wed Jul 21 19:06:30 2004 From: ivan@pechorin.com (Ivan Pechorin) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:06:30 +0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables In-Reply-To: <40FE9C26.7070309@exchange.uta.edu> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40FE7ADD.90506@exchange.uta.edu> <1090423627.2292.22.camel@notebook.home> <40FE9C26.7070309@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <1090433189.3114.11.camel@notebook.home> Ganeshram Iyer wrote: > Thanks Ivan. I was using that redhat gui, but it really lacks a lot of > functionality. i am unable to set access to HTTPS with it. You should add this string to your /etc/sysconfig/iptables to allow access to HTTPS (which uses TCP port 443): -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT I use the following rules to allow access to SSH, HTTP and HTTPS: # cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :RH-Firewall-1-INPUT - [0:0] -A INPUT -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A FORWARD -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type any -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT -- Ivan Pechorin From jason@coalescentsystems.ca Wed Jul 21 19:51:35 2004 From: jason@coalescentsystems.ca (Jason Becker) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:51:35 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: OT: best IDS / Securesystem with / for WBEL In-Reply-To: <20040721170000.19506.21587.Mailman@library.beau.org> References: <20040721170000.19506.21587.Mailman@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <40FEBB37.7010403@coalescentsystems.ca> From: Stefan Sabolowitsch To: whitebox-users@beau.org Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:22:35 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] OT: best IDS / Securesystem with / for WBEL Ask onto the experts : -) . How do I make my server(s) secure? What is the best combination? To example with samhain + snare + snort (possibly with central log server for that). *** I'm no security expert so take my comments with a grain of salt but... IDS are notorious for producing false positives and in general are difficult to use in practice. My suggestion would be to run Nessus against your server and follow the advice/suggestions it offers. Bastille Linux also provides a hardening "script" which may work with WBEL (Can anyone else confirm? I haven't tried it...) Cheers Jason P.S. Nessus will report a "Security Hole" on the version of openssh server used in WBEL but that is not the case. Red Hat backport security fixes. Check the mailing list archives for coverage of this concern. From ekg@tricity.wsu.edu Wed Jul 21 22:32:10 2004 From: ekg@tricity.wsu.edu (Ed) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:32:10 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: OT: best IDS / Securesystem with / for WBEL In-Reply-To: <40FEBB37.7010403@coalescentsystems.ca> References: <20040721170000.19506.21587.Mailman@library.beau.org> <40FEBB37.7010403@coalescentsystems.ca> Message-ID: <40FEE0DA.8010202@tricity.wsu.edu> Jason Becker wrote: > From: Stefan Sabolowitsch > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:22:35 +0200 > Subject: [WBEL-users] OT: best IDS / Securesystem with / for WBEL > > Ask onto the experts : -) . > How do I make my server(s) secure? Don't install anything you don't use, especially servers. Get rid of suid-root executables when possible. Close ports you don't use with a firewall: iptables. Install security patches: yum. But first you must know your threat model: who are you trying to protect against? Most of those IDS systems only tell you *after* you've been broken into, and they can be defeated by a skilled adversary. If you're really fighting people like that, you might be better served by a system like OpenBSD which will take you less time to "harden". (On the other hand, IDS are helpful to know that you *have* been broken into, so you can respond.) Ed > What is the best combination? > To example with samhain + snare + snort (possibly with central log server > for that). > > *** > > I'm no security expert so take my comments with a grain of salt but... > IDS are notorious for producing false positives and in general are > difficult to use in practice. > > My suggestion would be to run Nessus against your server and follow the > advice/suggestions it offers. Bastille Linux also provides a hardening > "script" which may work with WBEL (Can anyone else confirm? I haven't > tried it...) > > Cheers > > Jason > > P.S. > > Nessus will report a "Security Hole" on the version of openssh server > used in WBEL but that is not the case. Red Hat backport security fixes. > Check the mailing list archives for coverage of this concern. > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 22 06:47:26 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:47:26 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Newbie - Installing X-Windows/KDE/GNOME In-Reply-To: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> References: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> Message-ID: <200407220047.27107.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> On Wednesday 21 July 2004 04:35, linux wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed whitebox as a barebone system. Now, I would like to install > X Windows, KDE, and GNOME. What would be the proper way to do it > (preferred yum)? > > Thanks a lot. > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users You can instal the XFree RPMs directly from the CDs. As a guideline these are the XFree RPMs installed on my linux box: XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-base-fonts-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-devel-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-doc-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-font-utils-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-libs-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-libs-data-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-Mesa-libGL-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-Mesa-libGLU-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-tools-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-truetype-fonts-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-twm-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-xauth-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-xdm-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-xfs-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-Xnest-4.3.0-35.EL XFree86-Xvfb-4.3.0-35.EL And the KDE RPMs are: arts-1.1.3-2.2 arts-devel-1.1.3-2.2 kdeaddons-3.1.3-1 kdeartwork-3.1.3-1.1 kdebase-3.1.3-5.2 kdebase-devel-3.1.3-5.2 kdegames-3.1.3-3.1 kdegraphics-3.1.3-3.3 kdegraphics-devel-3.1.3-3.3 kdelibs-3.1.3-6.2 kdelibs-devel-3.1.3-6.2 kdemultimedia-3.1.3-3.1 kdenetwork-3.1.3-1.5 kdenetwork-devel-3.1.3-1.5 kdepim-3.1.3-3.1 kdepim-devel-3.1.3-3.1 kdesdk-3.1.3-1.1 kdesdk-devel-3.1.3-1.1 kdeutils-3.1.3-3.1 kdeutils-devel-3.1.3-3.1 kdevelop-2.1.5-12.1 This is by no means an exhaustive list, but it should be a start. Hope this helps. Rafael. From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Thu Jul 22 07:00:47 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:00:47 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables In-Reply-To: <40FE7ADD.90506@exchange.uta.edu> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40FE7ADD.90506@exchange.uta.edu> Message-ID: <40FF580F.1050007@dynacomp.net> fwbuilder ( http://www.fwbuilder.org/ ) is a really nice gui tool that allows you to set up iptables rules. It will generate a script for you that you can just copy and run on the server. It comes with very helpful wizards that will generate basic rules for you, check it out! Andy Ganeshram Iyer wrote: > Hello all, > I am a newbie to Linux and am trying to configure my firewall to a > decent level. I used the script generator at > http://www.lowth.com/LinWiz/1.09 to generate my iptables scripts. But > I am still in the dark as to what I need to do with this script? Do I > just need to copy it to some directory or do I need to execute is as a > shell script? I dont know if this is the right place to ask this > question but my searches have not yielded any results. > > Thanks a bunch in advance. > Ganesh > > ==================================================================================== > > > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :ADDRESS-FILTER - [0:0] > :LINWIZ-INPUT - [0:0] > :REJECT-PKT - [0:0] > :SYN-FLOOD - [0:0] > > -A INPUT -j LINWIZ-INPUT > > ###################################################################### > # Allow all loopback interface traffic > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > > # Block all attempts to spoof the loopback address > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j LOG --log-prefix "SPOOFED-LOOPBACK: " > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j DROP > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -d 127.0.0.0/8 -j LOG --log-prefix "SPOOFED-LOOPBACK: " > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -d 127.0.0.0/8 -j DROP > > # Block all attempts to spoof the local IP address > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 192.168.0.107 -j LOG --log-prefix "SPOOFED-IP: " > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -s 192.168.0.107 -j DROP > > # Block Syn Flood attacks > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --syn -j SYN-FLOOD > > # Ensure that TCP connections start with syn packets > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j LOG > --log-prefix "SYN-EXPECTED: " > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP > > # Allow session continuation traffic > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT > > # Call the IP and MAC address filtering chain > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -j ADDRESS-FILTER > > # Allow ICMP ping requests from allowed hosts > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type ping -j ACCEPT > > # Allow selected TCP/IP and/or UDP services > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 139 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 515 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 631 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 901 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1512 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 6000 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 10000 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 137:138 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 177 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1512 -j ACCEPT > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -p udp -m udp --sport 137:138 -j ACCEPT > > # Block all other TCP/IP and UDP traffic > > -A LINWIZ-INPUT -j REJECT-PKT > > ###################################################################### > # Syn flood filtering chain > > -A SYN-FLOOD -m limit --limit 1/s --limit-burst 4 -j RETURN > -A SYN-FLOOD -j LOG --log-prefix "SYN-FLOOD: " > -A SYN-FLOOD -j DROP > > ###################################################################### > # Chain used to reject all TCP/IP, UDP and ICMP/PING packets > > -A REJECT-PKT -p udp -m udp --sport 137:138 --dport 137:138 -j DROP > -A REJECT-PKT -p tcp -m tcp -j LOG > -A REJECT-PKT -p tcp -m tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset > -A REJECT-PKT -p udp -m udp -j LOG > -A REJECT-PKT -p udp -m udp -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable > -A REJECT-PKT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type ping -j LOG > -A REJECT-PKT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type ping -j REJECT --reject-with > icmp-host-unreachable > > ###################################################################### > # IP and MAC address filtering chain > > -A ADDRESS-FILTER -s 192.168.0.100/20 -j RETURN > -A ADDRESS-FILTER -j REJECT-PKT > ============================================================================================================== > > > COMMIT > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > From mail-lists@karan.org Thu Jul 22 10:06:29 2004 From: mail-lists@karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:06:29 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Newbie - Installing X-Windows/KDE/GNOME In-Reply-To: <200407211838.20850.javanree@vanree.net> References: <20040721093547.9657.qmail@mail.akelanetwork.com> <200407211838.20850.javanree@vanree.net> Message-ID: <40FF8395.4050908@karan.org> Hi, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2004 11:35, linux wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I've installed whitebox as a barebone system. Now, I would like to >>install X Windows, KDE, and GNOME. What would be the proper way to do it >>(preferred yum)? > > > yum install kdebase For gnome: yum install evolution that will get most of Gnome installed and going, might not bring in all the apps you need though. Which can later be added in as required. -- Karanbir Singh http://www.karan.org/ ICQ : 2522219 - Yahoo IM : z00dax GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc From gri0941@exchange.uta.edu Thu Jul 22 15:17:09 2004 From: gri0941@exchange.uta.edu (Ganeshram Iyer) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:17:09 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables In-Reply-To: <40FF580F.1050007@dynacomp.net> References: <5190E6DF2243D6119CA300047573E7B4762A02@serrig.feltengmbh.de> <40FE7ADD.90506@exchange.uta.edu> <40FF580F.1050007@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: <40FFCC65.1090104@exchange.uta.edu> Thanks Andy. I will definitely try it out. Appreciate your help. Ganesh Andy wrote: > fwbuilder ( http://www.fwbuilder.org/ ) is a really nice gui tool that > allows you to set up iptables rules. It will generate a script for you > that you can just copy and run on the server. > > It comes with very helpful wizards that will generate basic rules for > you, check it out! > > Andy From kgmorse@mpcu.com Thu Jul 22 18:25:20 2004 From: kgmorse@mpcu.com (Keith Morse) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Iptables In-Reply-To: <40FF580F.1050007@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Andy wrote: > fwbuilder ( http://www.fwbuilder.org/ ) is a really nice gui tool that > allows you to set up iptables rules. It will generate a script for you > that you can just copy and run on the server. > > It comes with very helpful wizards that will generate basic rules for > you, check it out! > > Andy I heartily recommend this also. In addition, the author is very responive to questions that come up on the mailing list. > > Ganeshram Iyer wrote: > > > Hello all, > > I am a newbie to Linux and am trying to configure my firewall to a > > decent level. I used the script generator at > > http://www.lowth.com/LinWiz/1.09 to generate my iptables scripts. But > > I am still in the dark as to what I need to do with this script? Do I > > just need to copy it to some directory or do I need to execute is as a > > shell script? I dont know if this is the right place to ask this > > question but my searches have not yielded any results. > > > > Thanks a bunch in advance. > > Ganesh > > > > ==================================================================================== From rlillard@sonic.net Thu Jul 22 23:19:25 2004 From: rlillard@sonic.net (Raymond Lillard) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:19:25 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Samba 3.0.2e -- As Compiled Configuration ?? Message-ID: <41003D6D.6010204@sonic.net> Dear Whitebox, I am in the process of bringing up Samba as a PDC and would like to know how the Samba shipped with WBEL respin1 has been compiled. I have unpacked the SRPM and found nothing I recognized as a log of "./configure --opts...." I would like to know the exact list of arguments supplied to "configure" to recompile the latest samba-3.0.5 Thanks, Ray From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Fri Jul 23 04:39:45 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:39:45 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Samba 3.0.2e -- As Compiled Configuration ?? In-Reply-To: <41003D6D.6010204@sonic.net> References: <41003D6D.6010204@sonic.net> Message-ID: <200407222239.45529.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> The exact list of configure options for SAMBA or any other package can be found in the RPMs specfile. You will find this file under /usr/src/redhat/SPECS after you install the src.rpm file. Rafael. On Thursday 22 July 2004 17:19, Raymond Lillard wrote: > Dear Whitebox, > > I am in the process of bringing up Samba as a PDC > and would like to know how the Samba shipped with > WBEL respin1 has been compiled. > > I have unpacked the SRPM and found nothing I recognized > as a log of "./configure --opts...." > > I would like to know the exact list of arguments > supplied to "configure" to recompile the latest > samba-3.0.5 > > Thanks, > Ray > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Fri Jul 23 11:32:14 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:32:14 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Samba 3.0.2e -- As Compiled Configuration ?? In-Reply-To: <41003D6D.6010204@sonic.net> References: <41003D6D.6010204@sonic.net> Message-ID: <1090578734.5753.8.camel@Myth.home.local> On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 17:19, Raymond Lillard wrote: > I would like to know the exact list of arguments > supplied to "configure" to recompile the latest > samba-3.0.5 Why compile your own version of 3.0.5 when you currently have an enterprise version that receives all security updates (and is going to soon be upgraded to 3.0.4-6.3E. Is there some feature in 3.0.5 that you absolutely need ... if not, I would recommend that you stay with the version that is officially supported in RHEL (and WBEL). All security updates will be applied by RedHat to the samba client in RHEL (and therefore make it into WBEL) ... please see the RedHat policy on backporting: http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_backport.html (so a higher version number is not always required to have all the security updates) Johnny Hughes http://www.hughesjr.com From whitebox@greatlakedata.com Fri Jul 23 13:00:02 2004 From: whitebox@greatlakedata.com (whitebox@greatlakedata.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:00:02 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? Message-ID: <1090584002.4719.39422.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> hi, i'm trying to install whitebox remotely. anyone done that? knoppix3.4 is running from CD, i'm connected via VNC, i've partitioned the disk and downloaded whitebox-respin1, now i want to proceed with install under remote control. my intention is to run anaconda in a chroot. i did this with rh9. perhaps something has changed, or perhaps i've dropped a detail.. i've loop mounted boot.iso, and unzipped and loop mounted initrd. it seems to be a nice wee filesystem, but conspicuously absent from its content is /usr. so just where is /usr/bin/sh supposed to come from? anyone done this? what am i missing? pointers welcome. tia, greg -- gregory whitley mott it coordinator nonviolentpeaceforce.org From andyr@wizzy.com Fri Jul 23 13:31:28 2004 From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:31:28 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? In-Reply-To: <1090584002.4719.39422.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> References: <1090584002.4719.39422.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> Message-ID: <20040723123128.GH1356@wizzy.com> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, whitebox@greatlakedata.com wrote: > hi, > > i'm trying to install whitebox remotely. anyone done that? As a proof of concept, I have done a vnc install over the network. I think anaconda supports VNC directly - just say "linux vnc" at the syslinux prompt ?? It needs a DHCP server the other end, but I think thats it. Cheers, Andy! From Benjamin J. Weiss" The continuing saga of implementing WBEL at work on MIS workstations for linux learning... :) Okay, I was able to use Knoppix 3.4 and qparted to shrink the XP NTFS partition by 100Meg so that I could put the WBEL boot partition on hda. Now it boots great! Next problem: I'm running a Dell 4600 that WinXP reports as having an Intel 82865G integrated graphics controller, with 64Meg of RAM, but the video card keeps detecting as an Intel 865 using the i810 driver. My display is a Dell E172FP flat panel display, which seems to auto-detect just fine. Any time I try to put it in the "millions of colors" mode, X won't start. Also, whatever resolution I put it in, it seems stuck in about 640 x 480 (or could be 800 x 600, it's hard to tell by just looking at it). I've tried googling, but only came across one or two posts about the problem, but no solutions. I've downloaded both the RPM and the .tar.gz driver file from Intel's website, but neither seems to change the behavior. I still have the compiled .tar.gz dri drivers loaded. I figure that there's probably some esoteric X configuration file changes that need to be made to make the whole thing work, but I haven't a clue on how to do this. Can anybody help? Thanks! Ben From grahamp@wsieurope.com Fri Jul 23 13:49:36 2004 From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:49:36 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] gvim Message-ID: <41010960.5030904@wsieurope.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040906000701080104020800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone built an rpm for vim-X11 which is missing off RHEL3.0 and WBEL3.0. Having a graphical environment and no graphical vim seems incredible. But there you go. If not I'll roll my own and make it available. Graham --------------040906000701080104020800 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf8; name="grahamp.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="grahamp.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Graham Purcocks n:Purcocks;Graham org:WSI Ltd;Engineering adr:Hockley;;22-24 Vittoria Street;Birmingham;W.Midlands;B1 3PE;U.K. email;internet:grahamp@wsieurope.com title:Consultant Engineer tel;work:+44 121 233 7600 tel;fax:+44 121 233 7666 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.wsieurope.com version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040906000701080104020800-- From gamito@netual.pt Fri Jul 23 14:17:15 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (Mario Gamito) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:17:15 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Intel 82865G integrated video problems with XFree86? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090588629.5036.79.camel@zooropa> Hi, I've been using DELL for many years in Linux both on desktop and on servers. Right now i have an Optiflex GX 270 SMT for desktop that the (motherboard embedded) graphic card you mention. Unfortunately, Intel seems to have stopped developing their video drivers for Linux on version 810 on of their cards. Either we accept it, either we don't. No choice... except... do what i have done: i've ordered my machine with a nVidia GeForce. Just more 130 euros (more or less the same in USD). If you buy graphic a card in a retailer and insert it yourself inside your box, it will probably be cheaper. Regards, M�rio Gamito On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 13:47, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > The continuing saga of implementing WBEL at work on MIS workstations for > linux learning... :) > > Okay, I was able to use Knoppix 3.4 and qparted to shrink the XP NTFS > partition by 100Meg so that I could put the WBEL boot partition on hda. > Now it boots great! > > Next problem: I'm running a Dell 4600 that WinXP reports as having an > Intel 82865G integrated graphics controller, with 64Meg of RAM, but the > video card keeps detecting as an Intel 865 using the i810 driver. My > display is a Dell E172FP flat panel display, which seems to auto-detect > just fine. Any time I try to put it in the "millions of colors" mode, X > won't start. Also, whatever resolution I put it in, it seems stuck in > about 640 x 480 (or could be 800 x 600, it's hard to tell by just looking > at it). > > I've tried googling, but only came across one or two posts about the > problem, but no solutions. > > I've downloaded both the RPM and the .tar.gz driver file from Intel's > website, but neither seems to change the behavior. I still have the > compiled .tar.gz dri drivers loaded. > > I figure that there's probably some esoteric X configuration file changes > that need to be made to make the whole thing work, but I haven't a clue on > how to do this. > > Can anybody help? > > Thanks! > > Ben > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From Benjamin J. Weiss" Message-ID: Ed Croft gave me the fix. On the Dell 4600, the BIOS defaults to 1Meg of Video RAM. By changing it to 8Meg, I'm getting beautiful results. Thanks, Ed! Ben On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Mario Gamito wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using DELL for many years in Linux both on desktop and on > servers. > Right now i have an Optiflex GX 270 SMT for desktop that the > (motherboard embedded) graphic card you mention. > > Unfortunately, Intel seems to have stopped developing their video > drivers for Linux on version 810 on of their cards. > Either we accept it, either we don't. > > No choice... except... do what i have done: i've ordered my machine > with a nVidia GeForce. Just more 130 euros (more or less the same in > USD). > If you buy graphic a card in a retailer and insert it yourself inside > your box, it will probably be cheaper. > > Regards, > M�rio Gamito > > > On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 13:47, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > > The continuing saga of implementing WBEL at work on MIS workstations for > > linux learning... :) > > > > Okay, I was able to use Knoppix 3.4 and qparted to shrink the XP NTFS > > partition by 100Meg so that I could put the WBEL boot partition on hda. > > Now it boots great! > > > > Next problem: I'm running a Dell 4600 that WinXP reports as having an > > Intel 82865G integrated graphics controller, with 64Meg of RAM, but the > > video card keeps detecting as an Intel 865 using the i810 driver. My > > display is a Dell E172FP flat panel display, which seems to auto-detect > > just fine. Any time I try to put it in the "millions of colors" mode, X > > won't start. Also, whatever resolution I put it in, it seems stuck in > > about 640 x 480 (or could be 800 x 600, it's hard to tell by just looking > > at it). > > > > I've tried googling, but only came across one or two posts about the > > problem, but no solutions. > > > > I've downloaded both the RPM and the .tar.gz driver file from Intel's > > website, but neither seems to change the behavior. I still have the > > compiled .tar.gz dri drivers loaded. > > > > I figure that there's probably some esoteric X configuration file changes > > that need to be made to make the whole thing work, but I haven't a clue on > > how to do this. > > > > Can anybody help? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Ben > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From gamito@netual.pt Fri Jul 23 17:06:36 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (Mario Gamito) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:06:36 +0100 Subject: SOLVED: Re: [WBEL-users] Intel 82865G integrated video problems with XFree86? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090598785.5036.101.camel@zooropa> Hi, Yes, i knew that, i forgot to mention it. That problem is that you may get beautiful results, but not speedy results :( And the same goes to Windows also. Regards, M�rio Gamito On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 16:25, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > Ed Croft gave me the fix. On the Dell 4600, the BIOS defaults to 1Meg of > Video RAM. By changing it to 8Meg, I'm getting beautiful results. > Thanks, Ed! > > Ben > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Mario Gamito wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've been using DELL for many years in Linux both on desktop and on > > servers. > > Right now i have an Optiflex GX 270 SMT for desktop that the > > (motherboard embedded) graphic card you mention. > > > > Unfortunately, Intel seems to have stopped developing their video > > drivers for Linux on version 810 on of their cards. > > Either we accept it, either we don't. > > > > No choice... except... do what i have done: i've ordered my machine > > with a nVidia GeForce. Just more 130 euros (more or less the same in > > USD). > > If you buy graphic a card in a retailer and insert it yourself inside > > your box, it will probably be cheaper. > > > > Regards, > > M�rio Gamito > > > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 13:47, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > > > The continuing saga of implementing WBEL at work on MIS workstations for > > > linux learning... :) > > > > > > Okay, I was able to use Knoppix 3.4 and qparted to shrink the XP NTFS > > > partition by 100Meg so that I could put the WBEL boot partition on hda. > > > Now it boots great! > > > > > > Next problem: I'm running a Dell 4600 that WinXP reports as having an > > > Intel 82865G integrated graphics controller, with 64Meg of RAM, but the > > > video card keeps detecting as an Intel 865 using the i810 driver. My > > > display is a Dell E172FP flat panel display, which seems to auto-detect > > > just fine. Any time I try to put it in the "millions of colors" mode, X > > > won't start. Also, whatever resolution I put it in, it seems stuck in > > > about 640 x 480 (or could be 800 x 600, it's hard to tell by just looking > > > at it). > > > > > > I've tried googling, but only came across one or two posts about the > > > problem, but no solutions. > > > > > > I've downloaded both the RPM and the .tar.gz driver file from Intel's > > > website, but neither seems to change the behavior. I still have the > > > compiled .tar.gz dri drivers loaded. > > > > > > I figure that there's probably some esoteric X configuration file changes > > > that need to be made to make the whole thing work, but I haven't a clue on > > > how to do this. > > > > > > Can anybody help? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From ivan@pechorin.com Fri Jul 23 21:07:39 2004 From: ivan@pechorin.com (Ivan Pechorin) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:07:39 +0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] gvim In-Reply-To: <41010960.5030904@wsieurope.com> References: <41010960.5030904@wsieurope.com> Message-ID: <1090613258.1813.49.camel@notebook.home> Graham Purcocks wrote: > Has anyone built an rpm for vim-X11 which is missing off RHEL3.0 and > WBEL3.0. Having a graphical environment and no graphical vim seems > incredible. But there you go. You should change "%define enterprise 1" to "%define enterprise 0" in vim.spec from vim-6.2.98-1.src.rpm and build rpms. -- Ivan Pechorin From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Sat Jul 24 09:50:06 2004 From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 09:50:06 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Restarting/stopping mysqld fails Message-ID: <000001c4715b$37c7f370$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> I notice that /etc/init.d/mysqld restart will always fail to stop the mysql process on my two WBEL systems, but it works fine on my RH9 system. Anything to check or anything known about this? Thanks Nigel Kendrick --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 09/07/2004 From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Sat Jul 24 10:06:37 2004 From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:06:37 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS/Web server - fixed Message-ID: <000701c4715d$868b2660$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> Just a bit of follow-up to my problem with slow Web page delivery on my WBEL system: 1) System moved to a P4 2.4GHz system with 512MB RAM (from PIII-500 with 256MB) - helped a bit, but still noticed a delay. 2) Noticed that my comparison system (a PIII-500 with 256MB running RH9) had the ISP's DNS servers listed in resolv.conf (that site has no local DNS server) whereas the WBEL site had the address of the Internet gateway listed (using the gateway as a forwarder). Changed WBEL resolv.conf to the ISP's DNS servers and the delay on Web page serving is now as expected. Thanks to all who posted suggestions on this issue. Nigel Kendrick --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 09/07/2004 From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Sat Jul 24 10:19:44 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 04:19:44 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS/Web server - fixed In-Reply-To: <000701c4715d$868b2660$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> References: <000701c4715d$868b2660$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> Message-ID: <1090660783.15439.3.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-gk7vZLNAkzNERvmneCL2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 04:06, Nigel Kendrick wrote: > 2) Noticed that my comparison system (a PIII-500 with 256MB running RH9) had > the ISP's DNS servers listed in resolv.conf (that site has no local DNS > server) whereas the WBEL site had the address of the Internet gateway listed > (using the gateway as a forwarder). Changed WBEL resolv.conf to the ISP's > DNS servers and the delay on Web page serving is now as expected. > If I were you, I would setup a caching-only DNS server on that box (or at least on one machine inside your firewall) that you can use as a local DNS machine. > Thanks to all who posted suggestions on this issue. > > Nigel Kendrick > Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-gk7vZLNAkzNERvmneCL2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 04:06, Nigel Kendrick wrote:

2) Noticed that my comparison system (a PIII-500 with 256MB running RH9) had
the ISP's DNS servers listed in resolv.conf (that site has no local DNS
server) whereas the WBEL site had the address of the Internet gateway listed
(using the gateway as a forwarder). Changed WBEL resolv.conf to the ISP's
DNS servers and the delay on Web page serving is now as expected.

If I were you, I would setup a caching-only DNS server on that box (or at least on one machine inside your firewall) that you can use as a local DNS machine.

Thanks to all who posted suggestions on this issue.

Nigel Kendrick




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-gk7vZLNAkzNERvmneCL2-- From nzegarra@kolareal.net Sat Jul 24 14:16:46 2004 From: nzegarra@kolareal.net (Joe Nilson Zegarra Galvez) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 08:16:46 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] ReiserFS on WBL respin1 Message-ID: <1090675006.14111.19.camel@dune.kolareal.net> Hi, i want to install my DB server with WBL but i see that WBL haven't reiserFS support how i can install or activate the reiserFS support at the install or later?. Thanks JN From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Sat Jul 24 15:40:50 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 09:40:50 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] ReiserFS on WBL respin1 In-Reply-To: <1090675006.14111.19.camel@dune.kolareal.net> References: <1090675006.14111.19.camel@dune.kolareal.net> Message-ID: <1090679594.8406.1.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-MWoIFZh4gpBW9wP9LtYG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 08:16, Joe Nilson Zegarra Galvez wrote: > Hi, i want to install my DB server with WBL but i see that WBL haven't > reiserFS support how i can install or activate the reiserFS support at > the install or later?. RedHat doesn't think ReiserFS is stable enough to have it be installed in RHEL. You can install it on your own (use kernel-unsupported, then load the modules) > Thanks > > > JN > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-MWoIFZh4gpBW9wP9LtYG Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 08:16, Joe Nilson Zegarra Galvez wrote:

Hi, i want to install my DB server with WBL but i see that WBL haven't
reiserFS support how i can install or activate the reiserFS support at
the install or later?.

RedHat doesn't think ReiserFS is stable enough to have it be installed in RHEL.

You can install it on your own (use kernel-unsupported, then load the modules)

Thanks


JN

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--=-MWoIFZh4gpBW9wP9LtYG-- From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Sat Jul 24 20:05:57 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:05:57 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS/Web server - fixed In-Reply-To: <1090660783.15439.3.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <000701c4715d$868b2660$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> <1090660783.15439.3.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <200407241405.57721.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> On Saturday 24 July 2004 04:19, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 04:06, Nigel Kendrick wrote: > > 2) Noticed that my comparison system (a PIII-500 with 256MB running RH9) > > had the ISP's DNS servers listed in resolv.conf (that site has no local > > DNS server) whereas the WBEL site had the address of the Internet gateway > > listed (using the gateway as a forwarder). Changed WBEL resolv.conf to > > the ISP's DNS servers and the delay on Web page serving is now as > > expected. > > If I were you, I would setup a caching-only DNS server on that box (or > at least on one machine inside your firewall) that you can use as a > local DNS machine. Absolutely. It usually helps to speed things up, sometimes considerably. > > Thanks to all who posted suggestions on this issue. > > > > Nigel Kendrick > > Johnny Hughes > HughesJR.com From david@daku.org Sat Jul 24 22:05:29 2004 From: david@daku.org (david) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:05:29 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Floppy boot? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040724140200.03a30720@telford.daku.org> I am considering a jump to Whitebox, being a bit afraid of the pace of Fedora. I would be grateful if someone could answer these questions: 1) Has anyone performed a switch (I am reluctant to call it an upgrade or downgrade) from Fedora Core One to Whitebox? If so, are there any huge gotchas? 2) FC1 had a floppy boot. FC2 does not. I can't seem to find one in the WB binaries. Does such exist? [Background: I have an old computer without a cdrom bootstrap capability]. 3) Which version of Apache web server is included? Much thanks David From hsc-linux@nc.rr.com Sat Jul 24 23:57:47 2004 From: hsc-linux@nc.rr.com (Hugh Crissman) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:57:47 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] test Message-ID: <1090709867.17111.3.camel@bujin> test From gregbrown@mindspring.com Sun Jul 25 01:41:54 2004 From: gregbrown@mindspring.com (Greg Brown) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:41:54 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL Message-ID: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers using nat) running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? I have a server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and not doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after about an hour or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it acts like it went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios features are disabled (but I'm going to check them again). Just wonder if anyone else has seen this with this kernel? I've booted back a rev and I'm going to see if that helps (after I reboot and check the bios). Greg From javanree@vanree.net Sun Jul 25 02:16:59 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 03:16:59 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> References: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200407250316.59449.javanree@vanree.net> On Sunday 25 July 2004 02:41, Greg Brown wrote: > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers using nat) > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? I have a > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and not > doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after about an hour > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it acts like it went > to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios features are > disabled (but I'm going to check them again). Just wonder if anyone > else has seen this with this kernel? I've booted back a rev and I'm > going to see if that helps (after I reboot and check the bios). Using that kernel here for a box doing http, dhcp, smb and NAT and it's been stable for over 2 weeks so far without any issues. -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Sun Jul 25 03:37:11 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:37:11 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> References: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200407242137.11402.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> You might want to check your system logs for any error messages. This type of behavour could also mean that you are having hardware problems like for example a damaged hard disk. When you mention that the system went to sleep, do you mean that if you perform some sort of activity, keystroke or mouse move, the system becomes functional again or do you have to reboot? If you reboot, can you make a warm reboot (Ctrl-Alt-Del) or do you have to press the reset button? Maybe posting some more information like network interfaces, error messages, other software being used on the server like databases, DNS, etc. may also help. Just remember to modify or delete any site specific info like external IP addresses. Rafael. On Saturday 24 July 2004 19:41, Greg Brown wrote: > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers using nat) > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? I have a > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and not > doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after about an hour > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it acts like it went > to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios features are > disabled (but I'm going to check them again). Just wonder if anyone > else has seen this with this kernel? I've booted back a rev and I'm > going to see if that helps (after I reboot and check the bios). > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Sun Jul 25 04:41:16 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:41:16 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> References: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <41032BDC.9030201@dynacomp.net> I've observed similar behavior. I'm using iptables script generated by fwbuilder ( www.fwbuilder.com ) doing nat and serving pages. Once in a while the machine stops responding to network requests. If I log in through the console, everything seems to be working fine and I just have to rerun the fwbuilder script and/or restart iptables and everything comes up. There is nothing in the error log, can anyone point out where to look for debug information? Greg Brown wrote: > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers using nat) > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? I have a > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and not > doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after about an hour > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it acts like it > went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios features > are disabled (but I'm going to check them again). Just wonder if > anyone else has seen this with this kernel? I've booted back a rev > and I'm going to see if that helps (after I reboot and check the bios). > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Sun Jul 25 04:45:26 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:45:26 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] ReiserFS on WBL respin1 In-Reply-To: <1090675006.14111.19.camel@dune.kolareal.net> References: <1090675006.14111.19.camel@dune.kolareal.net> Message-ID: <41032CD6.7050006@dynacomp.net> In fedora you can type "boot: linux reiserfs" before you begin the installation from the cd's and then the option is available in the diskdruid. Does anyone know if this works with WBEL? | | Joe Nilson Zegarra Galvez wrote: >Hi, i want to install my DB server with WBL but i see that WBL haven't >reiserFS support how i can install or activate the reiserFS support at >the install or later?. > >Thanks > > >JN > >_______________________________________________ >Whitebox-users mailing list >Whitebox-users@beau.org >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > From gamito@netual.pt Sun Jul 25 09:27:57 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?=) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:27:57 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <41032BDC.9030201@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: <200407250827.i6P8RrIa017347@library.beau.org> Oops, I was about to replace my companie's firewall from Fedora to WBEL, (just running iptables), but i think i'll wait :( Regards, M�rio Gamito > -----Original Message----- > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Andy > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:41 AM > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > I've observed similar behavior. I'm using iptables script > generated by fwbuilder ( www.fwbuilder.com ) doing nat and > serving pages. Once in a while the machine stops responding > to network requests. If I log in through the console, > everything seems to be working fine and I just have to rerun > the fwbuilder script and/or restart iptables and everything > comes up. There is nothing in the error log, can anyone point > out where to look for debug information? > > > Greg Brown wrote: > > > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers > using nat) > > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? I have a > > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and not > > doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after > about an hour > > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it acts like it > > went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios features > > are disabled (but I'm going to check them again). Just wonder if > > anyone else has seen this with this kernel? I've booted back a rev > > and I'm going to see if that helps (after I reboot and > check the bios). > > > > Greg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From gamito@netual.pt Sun Jul 25 15:26:13 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?=) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:26:13 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] ReiserFS on WBL respin1 In-Reply-To: <41032CD6.7050006@dynacomp.net> Message-ID: <200407251426.i6PEQGx8022964@library.beau.org> Hi, And what about XFS ? Regards, M�rio Gamito > -----Original Message----- > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Andy > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:45 AM > To: WBL List > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] ReiserFS on WBL respin1 > > In fedora you can type "boot: linux reiserfs" before you > begin the installation from the cd's and then the option is > available in the diskdruid. > > Does anyone know if this works with WBEL? > | > > | > Joe Nilson Zegarra Galvez wrote: > > >Hi, i want to install my DB server with WBL but i see that > WBL haven't > >reiserFS support how i can install or activate the reiserFS > support at > >the install or later?. > > > >Thanks > > > > > >JN > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Whitebox-users mailing list > >Whitebox-users@beau.org > >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From tonyw@tonyw.com Sun Jul 25 20:17:12 2004 From: tonyw@tonyw.com (Tony Wicks) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:17:12 +1200 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <200407250827.i6P8RrIa017347@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <000401c4727b$fd74f160$0a64a8c0@apollo> Well I have about 20 machines running Whitebox with hardware ranging from old p200's to dual Xeon dells with scsi and 4g ram. They range from Oracle databases, web / mail filtering and most other imaginable uses. All these machined have proved completely stable. A couple of machines that were unstable on FC2 after re-loading with Whitebox are stable. Infact I prefer my Whitebox machines over my Solaris, RHEL, RHAS or Debian machines as they are so stable, and everything just works (without having to deal with RHN, which can be painful). > -----Original Message----- > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] > On Behalf Of M�rio Gamito > Sent: Sunday, 25 July 2004 8:28 p.m. > To: 'Andy'; whitebox-users@beau.org > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > Oops, > > I was about to replace my companie's firewall from Fedora to WBEL, (just > running iptables), but i think i'll wait :( > > Regards, > M�rio Gamito > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Andy > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:41 AM > > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > I've observed similar behavior. I'm using iptables script > > generated by fwbuilder ( www.fwbuilder.com ) doing nat and > > serving pages. Once in a while the machine stops responding > > to network requests. If I log in through the console, > > everything seems to be working fine and I just have to rerun > > the fwbuilder script and/or restart iptables and everything > > comes up. There is nothing in the error log, can anyone point > > out where to look for debug information? > > > > > > Greg Brown wrote: > > > > > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers > > using nat) > > > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? I have a > > > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and not > > > doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after > > about an hour > > > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > > > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it acts like it > > > went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios features > > > are disabled (but I'm going to check them again). Just wonder if > > > anyone else has seen this with this kernel? I've booted back a rev > > > and I'm going to see if that helps (after I reboot and > > check the bios). > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From gamito@netual.pt Sun Jul 25 21:01:45 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?=) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:01:45 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <000401c4727b$fd74f160$0a64a8c0@apollo> Message-ID: <200407252001.i6PK1pN8002808@library.beau.org> Hi, Yap, i also have 7 servers on WBEL with no problem at all. They all run like clock work. The three that are on the line to be migrated are the two DNS servers and the firewall. It just seemed to me that the iptables issue was very specific. But if i have to guess, i would say that it's hardware problems. Regards, M�rio Gamito > -----Original Message----- > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Tony Wicks > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:17 PM > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > Well I have about 20 machines running Whitebox with hardware > ranging from old p200's to dual Xeon dells with scsi and 4g > ram. They range from Oracle databases, web / mail filtering > and most other imaginable uses. All these machined have > proved completely stable. A couple of machines that were > unstable on FC2 after re-loading with Whitebox are stable. > Infact I prefer my Whitebox machines over my Solaris, RHEL, > RHAS or Debian machines as they are so stable, and everything > just works (without having to deal with RHN, which can be painful). > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] > > On Behalf Of M�rio Gamito > > Sent: Sunday, 25 July 2004 8:28 p.m. > > To: 'Andy'; whitebox-users@beau.org > > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > Oops, > > > > I was about to replace my companie's firewall from Fedora to WBEL, > > (just running iptables), but i think i'll wait :( > > > > Regards, > > M�rio Gamito > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Andy > > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:41 AM > > > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > > > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > > > I've observed similar behavior. I'm using iptables script > generated > > > by fwbuilder ( www.fwbuilder.com ) doing nat and serving > pages. Once > > > in a while the machine stops responding to network requests. If I > > > log in through the console, everything seems to be > working fine and > > > I just have to rerun the fwbuilder script and/or restart iptables > > > and everything comes up. There is nothing in the error log, can > > > anyone point out where to look for debug information? > > > > > > > > > Greg Brown wrote: > > > > > > > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers > > > using nat) > > > > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to > sleep"? I have a > > > > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and > > > > not doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after > > > about an hour > > > > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > > > > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it > acts like it > > > > went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios > > > > features are disabled (but I'm going to check them > again). Just > > > > wonder if anyone else has seen this with this kernel? > I've booted > > > > back a rev and I'm going to see if that helps (after I > reboot and > > > check the bios). > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Sun Jul 25 21:42:50 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:42:50 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <200407250827.i6P8RrIa017347@library.beau.org> References: <200407250827.i6P8RrIa017347@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <200407251542.50819.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> I have been running a couple of firewall/nat servers with iptables and WBEL for the past couple of months and have had no problems so far. The server also provides DNS. Rafael. On Sunday 25 July 2004 03:27, M�rio Gamito wrote: > Oops, > > I was about to replace my companie's firewall from Fedora to WBEL, (just > running iptables), but i think i'll wait :( > > Regards, > M�rio Gamito > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Andy > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:41 AM > > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > I've observed similar behavior. I'm using iptables script > > generated by fwbuilder ( www.fwbuilder.com ) doing nat and > > serving pages. Once in a while the machine stops responding > > to network requests. If I log in through the console, > > everything seems to be working fine and I just have to rerun > > the fwbuilder script and/or restart iptables and everything > > comes up. There is nothing in the error log, can anyone point > > out where to look for debug information? > > > > Greg Brown wrote: > > > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers > > > > using nat) > > > > > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? I have a > > > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and not > > > doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after > > > > about an hour > > > > > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > > > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it acts like it > > > went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios features > > > are disabled (but I'm going to check them again). Just wonder if > > > anyone else has seen this with this kernel? I've booted back a rev > > > and I'm going to see if that helps (after I reboot and > > > > check the bios). > > > > > Greg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From whitebox@greatlakedata.com Sun Jul 25 22:20:23 2004 From: whitebox@greatlakedata.com (whitebox@greatlakedata.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 16:20:23 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? In-Reply-To: <20040723123128.GH1356@wizzy.com> References: <1090584002.4719.39422.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> <20040723123128.GH1356@wizzy.com> Message-ID: <1090790422.4723.48197.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 07:00, whitebox@greatlakedata.com wrote: > i've loop mounted boot.iso, and unzipped and loop mounted initrd. it > seems to be a nice wee filesystem, but conspicuously absent from its > content is /usr. so just where is /usr/bin/sh supposed to come from? ah, right, it needs the union set of the stage2 and initrd filesystems. but unfortunately, now it bites the dust after i press "disk druid". darn. this worked under rh9. On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 07:31, Andy Rabagliati wrote: > I think anaconda supports VNC directly - just say "linux vnc" at > the syslinux prompt ?? i wanted to install from hard disk. but fooey, i guess i have to get whitebox burned to CDs and get somebody over there to boot them and change them, even if i do get VNC control. there's undoubtably a better way, but i donno what it takes, perhaps a different installer, perhaps a different distro. if anyone knows, do tell. ta, greg -- gregory whitley mott it coordinator nonviolentpeaceforce.org From nayanah@gmail.com Mon Jul 26 01:18:21 2004 From: nayanah@gmail.com (Nayana Hettiarachchi) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:18:21 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <200407252001.i6PK1pN8002808@library.beau.org> References: <200407252001.i6PK1pN8002808@library.beau.org> Message-ID: I have noticed a smilar behavior on one of my White Boxes ( 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL #1 Mon Jul 5 00:57:51 EDT 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux) where the network interface just stops acepting ping requests from my laptop, if i goto the console i can ping back to my machine and then in a little bit the interface is alive for me, i changed the network card thinking it might help and it hasnt, this doesnt happen every single minute but sometimes happen so often to iritate me, but i;ve been cluless as to what to do, Nayana On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:01:45 +0100, M�rio Gamito wrote: > Hi, > > Yap, i also have 7 servers on WBEL with no problem at all. > They all run like clock work. > > The three that are on the line to be migrated are the two DNS servers and > the firewall. > > It just seemed to me that the iptables issue was very specific. > But if i have to guess, i would say that it's hardware problems. > > Regards, > M�rio Gamito > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Tony Wicks > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:17 PM > > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > Well I have about 20 machines running Whitebox with hardware > > ranging from old p200's to dual Xeon dells with scsi and 4g > > ram. They range from Oracle databases, web / mail filtering > > and most other imaginable uses. All these machined have > > proved completely stable. A couple of machines that were > > unstable on FC2 after re-loading with Whitebox are stable. > > Infact I prefer my Whitebox machines over my Solaris, RHEL, > > RHAS or Debian machines as they are so stable, and everything > > just works (without having to deal with RHN, which can be painful). > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] > > > On Behalf Of M�rio Gamito > > > Sent: Sunday, 25 July 2004 8:28 p.m. > > > To: 'Andy'; whitebox-users@beau.org > > > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > > > Oops, > > > > > > I was about to replace my companie's firewall from Fedora to WBEL, > > > (just running iptables), but i think i'll wait :( > > > > > > Regards, > > > M�rio Gamito > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Andy > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:41 AM > > > > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > > > > > I've observed similar behavior. I'm using iptables script > > generated > > > > by fwbuilder ( www.fwbuilder.com ) doing nat and serving > > pages. Once > > > > in a while the machine stops responding to network requests. If I > > > > log in through the console, everything seems to be > > working fine and > > > > I just have to rerun the fwbuilder script and/or restart iptables > > > > and everything comes up. There is nothing in the error log, can > > > > anyone point out where to look for debug information? > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers > > > > using nat) > > > > > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to > > sleep"? I have a > > > > > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and > > > > > not doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after > > > > about an hour > > > > > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > > > > > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it > > acts like it > > > > > went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios > > > > > features are disabled (but I'm going to check them > > again). Just > > > > > wonder if anyone else has seen this with this kernel? > > I've booted > > > > > back a rev and I'm going to see if that helps (after I > > reboot and > > > > check the bios). > > > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Mon Jul 26 04:30:37 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:30:37 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: References: <200407252001.i6PK1pN8002808@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <200407252230.37652.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> What brand and model network card are you using? This problem could be hardware specific. Also do you see any error messages on the screen or in the system logs? Rafael. On Sunday 25 July 2004 19:18, Nayana Hettiarachchi wrote: > I have noticed a smilar behavior on one of my White Boxes ( > 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL #1 Mon Jul 5 00:57:51 EDT 2004 i686 athlon i386 > GNU/Linux) where the network interface just stops acepting ping > requests from my laptop, if i goto the console i can ping back to my > machine and then in a little bit the interface is alive for me, i > changed the network card thinking it might help and it hasnt, this > doesnt happen every single minute but sometimes happen so often to > iritate me, but i;ve been cluless as to what to do, > > Nayana > > On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:01:45 +0100, M�rio Gamito wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yap, i also have 7 servers on WBEL with no problem at all. > > They all run like clock work. > > > > The three that are on the line to be migrated are the two DNS servers and > > the firewall. > > > > It just seemed to me that the iptables issue was very specific. > > But if i have to guess, i would say that it's hardware problems. > > > > Regards, > > M�rio Gamito > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Tony Wicks > > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:17 PM > > > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > > > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > > > Well I have about 20 machines running Whitebox with hardware > > > ranging from old p200's to dual Xeon dells with scsi and 4g > > > ram. They range from Oracle databases, web / mail filtering > > > and most other imaginable uses. All these machined have > > > proved completely stable. A couple of machines that were > > > unstable on FC2 after re-loading with Whitebox are stable. > > > Infact I prefer my Whitebox machines over my Solaris, RHEL, > > > RHAS or Debian machines as they are so stable, and everything > > > just works (without having to deal with RHN, which can be painful). > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] > > > > On Behalf Of M�rio Gamito > > > > Sent: Sunday, 25 July 2004 8:28 p.m. > > > > To: 'Andy'; whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > > > > > Oops, > > > > > > > > I was about to replace my companie's firewall from Fedora to WBEL, > > > > (just running iptables), but i think i'll wait :( > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > M�rio Gamito > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > > > > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Andy > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:41 AM > > > > > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL > > > > > > > > > > I've observed similar behavior. I'm using iptables script > > > > > > generated > > > > > > > > by fwbuilder ( www.fwbuilder.com ) doing nat and serving > > > > > > pages. Once > > > > > > > > in a while the machine stops responding to network requests. If I > > > > > log in through the console, everything seems to be > > > > > > working fine and > > > > > > > > I just have to rerun the fwbuilder script and/or restart iptables > > > > > and everything comes up. There is nothing in the error log, can > > > > > anyone point out where to look for debug information? > > > > > > > > > > Greg Brown wrote: > > > > > > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers > > > > > > > > > > using nat) > > > > > > > > > > > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to > > > > > > sleep"? I have a > > > > > > > > > server I just installed it's running masq(nat) via iptables and > > > > > > not doing much else.. it's a basic edge box. Anyway, after > > > > > > > > > > about an hour > > > > > > > > > > > or so of running the system will stop accepting incoming SSH > > > > > > connections, it will stop routing, etc. Basically it > > > > > > acts like it > > > > > > > > > went to sleep. I'm 100% positive all my power saving bios > > > > > > features are disabled (but I'm going to check them > > > > > > again). Just > > > > > > > > > wonder if anyone else has seen this with this kernel? > > > > > > I've booted > > > > > > > > > back a rev and I'm going to see if that helps (after I > > > > > > reboot and > > > > > > > > check the bios). > > > > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From haynest@mchsi.com Mon Jul 26 10:35:20 2004 From: haynest@mchsi.com (Haynest) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:35:20 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Message-ID: ----------qndohoxwjihdujzowifs Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fotogalary

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wrote: > In fedora you can type "boot: linux reiserfs" before you begin the > installation from the cd's and then the option is available in the > diskdruid. > > Does anyone know if this works with WBEL? > | > It does not work with RHEL (or WBEL): http://www.redhat.com/archives/taroon-list/2004-February/msg00189.html > | > Joe Nilson Zegarra Galvez wrote: > > >Hi, i want to install my DB server with WBL but i see that WBL haven't > >reiserFS support how i can install or activate the reiserFS support at > >the install or later?. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com From jafar00@wanadoo.fr Mon Jul 26 10:58:33 2004 From: jafar00@wanadoo.fr (jafar) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:58:33 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: (Haynest) In-Reply-To: <20040726092800.6637.30619.Mailman@library.beau.org> References: <20040726092800.6637.30619.Mailman@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <1090835913.24918.1.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Cat.scr" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Cat.scr" Someone should explain that Whitebox is not the place for win32 viruses ;) -- Jafar Calley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ !tv D+ G e* h---- x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Registered Linux User #359623 http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org From xspace@slackpkg.ath.cx Mon Jul 26 11:30:03 2004 From: xspace@slackpkg.ath.cx (xspace) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:30:03 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] missing update Message-ID: <1090837802.4291.3.camel@slack.home.lan> 2004-07-22 RHSA-2004:259 Security AdvisoryUpdated samba packages fix vulnerabilities is missing on any WBL mirrors !!!!!!!!! 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I've just recently kickstarted four workstations with RHEL using whitebox updates and they complete in about an hour installing everything. If you write your post scripts correctly, the machines can be ready to use after a kickstart. I'll be doing about 15 cluster nodes shortly. You can even setup PXE boot installs if you want, but I have been using the "linux ks" option from the boot cd. Josh ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From webmaster@ew3d.com Mon Jul 26 14:29:49 2004 From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:29:49 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Question on mysql Message-ID: <4105074D.7060801@ew3d.com> I have moved from RH 7.2 to WBEL. I have a very intensive MySQL system with lots of writes and some reports out. On RH 7.2 I noticed safe_mysqld and maybe 5 mysqld's running pretty much all the time. On WBEL, there is only ever one of each. Our loads have gone up, but not all that much and it seems MySQL queries are taking much longer. Is there some good reason for only one instance running under WBEL? If not, where do I go to allow/set more daemons to start up? Thanks, John Hinton From Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com Mon Jul 26 14:51:24 2004 From: Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com (Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:51:24 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Question on mysql In-Reply-To: <4105074D.7060801@ew3d.com> Message-ID: Just a guess here: The ps utility changed it's default display options since your old version. Use '-m' to see the threads. If that was it, you may want to make an alias in bashrc so you won't forget the '-m' every time: alias ps='ps -m' John Hinton Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org 07/26/2004 08:29 AM To Whitebox Users cc Subject [WBEL-users] Question on mysql I have moved from RH 7.2 to WBEL. I have a very intensive MySQL system with lots of writes and some reports out. On RH 7.2 I noticed safe_mysqld and maybe 5 mysqld's running pretty much all the time. On WBEL, there is only ever one of each. Our loads have gone up, but not all that much and it seems MySQL queries are taking much longer. Is there some good reason for only one instance running under WBEL? If not, where do I go to allow/set more daemons to start up? Thanks, John Hinton _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From pantz@lqt.ca Mon Jul 26 15:33:43 2004 From: pantz@lqt.ca (Paul Pianta) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:33:43 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Floppy boot? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040724140200.03a30720@telford.daku.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040724140200.03a30720@telford.daku.org> Message-ID: <41051647.4040603@lqt.ca> david wrote: > I am considering a jump to Whitebox, being a bit afraid of the pace of > Fedora. I would be grateful if someone could answer these questions: > > 1) Has anyone performed a switch (I am reluctant to call it an > upgrade or downgrade) from Fedora Core One to Whitebox? If so, are > there any huge gotchas? > > 2) FC1 had a floppy boot. FC2 does not. I can't seem to find one in > the WB binaries. Does such exist? [Background: I have an old > computer without a cdrom bootstrap capability]. > > 3) Which version of Apache web server is included? > > Much thanks > > David > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > Hi David, Looking at my liberation-respin1-binary-i386-1.iso loop-mounted I can see that there is a file called 'bootdisk.img' in the images directory. If this is like any previous redhat released isos - I would say that is the image you can use with 'dd if=bootdisk.img of=/dev/fd0' to get a bootable floppy ... Hope that helps pantz -- Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes ... That way when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes! From Mickael Maddison Mon Jul 26 15:44:10 2004 From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:44:10 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: remote installs In-Reply-To: <20040726112908.19703.qmail@web40412.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040726083600.3046.10007.Mailman@library.beau.org> <20040726112908.19703.qmail@web40412.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1931807327.20040726074410@kamloopsbc.com> Hello Joshua, I've been using network installs on Redhat and WhiteBox for awhile. I'm looking for some tips on getting all the latest updates to install as part of the kickstart procedure (using my local YUM repository), and also copying things over to the machine such as my custom scripts, config files. Even go so far as auto-compiling mysql, apache and php (since I don't use the RPM's for this). Any config samples that work for this stuff? Mike Monday, July 26, 2004, 4:29:08 AM, you wrote: JW> I haven't been following the remote install thread, but I wouldn't JW> hesitate to recommend a network kickstart install. I've just recently JW> kickstarted four workstations with RHEL using whitebox updates and they JW> complete in about an hour installing everything. If you write your JW> post scripts correctly, the machines can be ready to use after a JW> kickstart. JW> I'll be doing about 15 cluster nodes shortly. You can even setup PXE JW> boot installs if you want, but I have been using the "linux ks" option JW> from the boot cd. JW> Josh JW> ===== JW> __________________________________ JW> Do you Yahoo!? JW> New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! JW> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail JW> _______________________________________________ JW> Whitebox-users mailing list JW> Whitebox-users@beau.org JW> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users -- Best regards, Mickael mailto:mike@kamloopsbc.com From andyr@wizzy.com Mon Jul 26 16:01:33 2004 From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:01:33 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> References: <6D3E93EF-DDD3-11D8-8858-000393BDE17A@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20040726150133.GV1356@wizzy.com> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Greg Brown wrote: > has anyone had any problem with servers (acting as routers using nat) > running kernel 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL simply "going to sleep"? This isn't some braindead BIOS that thinks that nobody is typing on the keyboard so it can catch a nap is it ? apmd ? (remove it). Cheers, Andy! From jamesk@ifm-services.com Mon Jul 26 16:23:33 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:23:33 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL In-Reply-To: References: <200407252001.i6PK1pN8002808@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <410521F5.2060700@ifm-services.com> Yes, please tell what hardware you're using. I've had to replace our old 3COM 905Bs with new Intel NICs because RHEL/WBEL doesn't like the old 905Bs (nor the odd built-in NIC on one laptop). -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com Mon Jul 26 16:40:57 2004 From: hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:40:57 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] virii on list Message-ID: <41052609.10302@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> Somebody(s) on this list is infected with a virus. I have gotten at least 10 emails so far today that my firewall has killed due to virii. most of them are from Europe. I am now attempting to do a full backtrack to find the originator. If you are running a windows machine please check your systems for infectious agents. Sincerely, William Warren Emmanuel Computer Consulting -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Mon Jul 26 22:35:59 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:35:59 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200407261636.00026.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Yes. Someone may be using a virus infected Windows system in this mailing list. Whoever is(are) using Windows, why not take the chance and use a decent OS like WBEL for your desktop. Trust me you will live happier. Rafael On Monday 26 July 2004 04:35, Haynest wrote: > > fotogalary

> >
> > From Benjamin J. Weiss" I've been searching for a way to encrypt a directory with some private files, and came across cfs. The only problem is that the code looks like it hasn't been updated in three years. I'm hoping for something relatively easy that doesn't require kernel patching. CFS and CryptFS look like they've been abandoned. I'm looking into losetup now, though I've heard that it's kinda slow. Anybody actually doing this now? Thanks! Ben From ekg@tricity.wsu.edu Mon Jul 26 22:47:43 2004 From: ekg@tricity.wsu.edu (Ed) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:47:43 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Floppy boot? In-Reply-To: <41051647.4040603@lqt.ca> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040724140200.03a30720@telford.daku.org> <41051647.4040603@lqt.ca> Message-ID: <41057BFF.3090906@tricity.wsu.edu> Paul Pianta wrote: > david wrote: > >> I am considering a jump to Whitebox, being a bit afraid of the pace of >> Fedora. I would be grateful if someone could answer these questions: >> >> 1) Has anyone performed a switch (I am reluctant to call it an >> upgrade or downgrade) from Fedora Core One to Whitebox? If so, are >> there any huge gotchas? >> >> 2) FC1 had a floppy boot. FC2 does not. I can't seem to find one in >> the WB binaries. Does such exist? [Background: I have an old >> computer without a cdrom bootstrap capability]. >> >> 3) Which version of Apache web server is included? >> >> Much thanks >> >> David >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Whitebox-users mailing list >> Whitebox-users@beau.org >> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users >> >> > Hi David, > > Looking at my liberation-respin1-binary-i386-1.iso loop-mounted I can > see that there is a file called 'bootdisk.img' in the images directory. > If this is like any previous redhat released isos - I would say that is > the image you can use with 'dd if=bootdisk.img of=/dev/fd0' to get a > bootable floppy ... That's the one I used. It works. Also bootnet.img is handy for network installs. You can find the version of apache in the package lists. It's 2.0.46. > > Hope that helps > > pantz > From kbohling@birddog.com Mon Jul 26 23:09:06 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:09:06 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Anybody using an encrypted file system on Whitebox? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040726220906.GA2645@hawk.birddog.com> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:45:18PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > I've been searching for a way to encrypt a directory with some private > files, and came across cfs. The only problem is that the code looks like > it hasn't been updated in three years. > > I'm hoping for something relatively easy that doesn't require kernel > patching. CFS and CryptFS look like they've been abandoned. I'm looking > into losetup now, though I've heard that it's kinda slow. > > Anybody actually doing this now? I've looked into it at various points. In the end, I either had to patch my utilities (util-linux), or I had to patch my kernel. The standard util-linux doesn't have support for AES, and the stock Redhat kernel doesn't have support for DES (at least not that I've found). losetup doesn't understand AES as an encryption type. It's relatively straightforward to patch the utilities. It's a pain in the butt, because you lose your ability to just use YUM to keep in sync. At one point I had tracked down why, they aren't being applied to the older series of util-linux. That might change with a 2.6 kernel. Google quickly comes up with this: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/long_list.cgi?buglist=78550 You might have luck chasing down the threads from there. There are plenty of howto's on how to do it out there. Loops sorta slow, but it's probably the encryption. Mount an ISO image loopback and see if that's slow. The encryption is slow, because by it's very nature it's a complex calculation (granted DES runs well on anything that has a barrel shifter in hardware that gets used). Thanks, Kirby > > Thanks! > > Ben > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From smj@littleprojects.org Mon Jul 26 23:12:53 2004 From: smj@littleprojects.org (Shawn M. Jones) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Anybody using an encrypted file system on Whitebox? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I've been searching for a way to encrypt a directory with some private > files, and came across cfs. The only problem is that the code looks like > it hasn't been updated in three years. I believe you want to look into the loop mounted encrypted filesystems. The kernel supports various cryptography algorithms from DES up to AES. I prefer AES myself and have used it with SuSE (before I ditched SuSE for other reasons, blech). I'm not sure if RHEL comes with all of the patched utilities (mount, losetup, etc.), because RH9 didn't. A HOWTO from the Linux Documentation Project is here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Cryptoloop-HOWTO/ Also, keep in mind that there is a performance hit with encryption, but on today's hardware with only a few users, I haven't noticed it. Hope this helps, --Shawn -- -- Shawn M. Jones http://www.littleprojects.org From Benjamin J. Weiss" Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Kirby Bohling wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:45:18PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > > I've been searching for a way to encrypt a directory with some private > > files, and came across cfs. The only problem is that the code looks like > > it hasn't been updated in three years. > > > > I'm hoping for something relatively easy that doesn't require kernel > > patching. CFS and CryptFS look like they've been abandoned. I'm looking > > into losetup now, though I've heard that it's kinda slow. > > > > Anybody actually doing this now? > > > I've looked into it at various points. In the end, I either had to > patch my utilities (util-linux), or I had to patch my kernel. > > The standard util-linux doesn't have support for AES, and the stock > Redhat kernel doesn't have support for DES (at least not that I've > found). The annoying thing is that it apparently works "out of the box" with mandrake 9.1: http://bopolissimus.sni.ph/index.php?m=200308 (search for losetup) > losetup doesn't understand AES as an encryption type. It's > relatively straightforward to patch the utilities. It's a pain in > the butt, because you lose your ability to just use YUM to keep in > sync. At one point I had tracked down why, they aren't being > applied to the older series of util-linux. That might change with a > 2.6 kernel. Yeah, I was afraid of that. I'd *really* hate losing the ability to maintain patches with YUM. > Google quickly comes up with this: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/long_list.cgi?buglist=78550 Yep, saw this, guess I may have to start digging. > You might have luck chasing down the threads from there. There are > plenty of howto's on how to do it out there. Loops sorta slow, but > it's probably the encryption. Mount an ISO image loopback and see > if that's slow. The encryption is slow, because by it's very nature > it's a complex calculation (granted DES runs well on anything that > has a barrel shifter in hardware that gets used). > Thanks! Ben From tristan@linux.witenko.com Mon Jul 26 23:21:52 2004 From: tristan@linux.witenko.com (Tristan Rhodes) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:21:52 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] virii on list In-Reply-To: <41052609.10302@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> References: <41052609.10302@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> Message-ID: <41058400.60105@witenko.com> Why not a more fool-proof method, such as virus scanning on the email server? Some great opensource tools... Mailscanner ( Easy to use virus and spam filter, uses ClamAV and Spamassassin) http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/ ClamAV ( Free anti-virus engine) http://www.clamav.net/ Spamassassin (Powerful anti-spam tool) http://spamassassin.apache.org/ Tristan Rhodes William Warren wrote: > Somebody(s) on this list is infected with a virus. I have gotten at > least 10 emails so far today that my firewall has killed due to virii. > most of them are from Europe. I am now attempting to do a full > backtrack to find the originator. If you are running a windows machine > please check your systems for infectious agents. > > Sincerely, > William Warren > Emmanuel Computer Consulting From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Mon Jul 26 23:30:29 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:30:29 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Message headers. Message-ID: <200407261730.29660.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Hi Haynest. These are the full headers of the three virus infected messages I have received. I am also posting them to the list in case anyone has any suggestions. Hope this helps. Rafael. Headers message 1. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Apparently-To: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx via 206.190.37.62; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:34:06 -0700 X-YahooFilteredBulk: 204.196.62.4 X-Originating-IP: [204.196.62.4] Return-Path: Received: from 204.196.62.4 (EHLO library.beau.org) (204.196.62.4) by mta117.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:34:05 -0700 Received: from library.beau.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by library.beau.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QB92q4031712; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:09:02 -0500 Received: from massimiliano.net ([217.220.57.226]) by library.beau.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i6QB8NcZ031592 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:08:24 -0500 To: "Whitebox-users" From: "Haynest" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--------kueexvrvymoplcizreqs" Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Sender: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org Errors-To: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org X-BeenThere: whitebox-users@beau.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: WBEL Users List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:08:23 +0100 Status: RO X-Status: O X-KMail-EncryptionState: N X-KMail-SignatureState: N Headers message 2. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Apparently-To: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx via 206.190.37.66; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 03:23:38 -0700 X-YahooFilteredBulk: 204.196.62.4 X-Originating-IP: [204.196.62.4] Return-Path: Received: from 204.196.62.4 (EHLO library.beau.org) (204.196.62.4) by mta349.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 03:23:38 -0700 Received: from library.beau.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by library.beau.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6Q9S2LO006643; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:28:02 -0500 Received: from massimiliano.com ([217.220.57.226]) by library.beau.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i6Q9Rm13006620 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:27:49 -0500 To: "Whitebox-users" From: "Haynest" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--------davkgizjwhbpnjnkozts" Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Sender: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org Errors-To: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org X-BeenThere: whitebox-users@beau.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: WBEL Users List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:27:48 +0100 Status: RO X-Status: O X-KMail-EncryptionState: N X-KMail-SignatureState: N Headers message 2. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Apparently-To: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx via 206.190.37.62; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:34:06 -0700 X-YahooFilteredBulk: 204.196.62.4 X-Originating-IP: [204.196.62.4] Return-Path: Received: from 204.196.62.4 (EHLO library.beau.org) (204.196.62.4) by mta117.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:34:05 -0700 Received: from library.beau.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by library.beau.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QB92q4031712; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:09:02 -0500 Received: from massimiliano.net ([217.220.57.226]) by library.beau.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i6QB8NcZ031592 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:08:24 -0500 To: "Whitebox-users" From: "Haynest" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--------kueexvrvymoplcizreqs" Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Sender: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org Errors-To: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org X-BeenThere: whitebox-users@beau.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: WBEL Users List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:08:23 +0100 Status: RO X-Status: O X-KMail-EncryptionState: N X-KMail-SignatureState: N From jamesk@ifm-services.com Mon Jul 26 23:41:15 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:41:15 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Anybody using an encrypted file system on Whitebox? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4105888B.4070501@ifm-services.com> Wow. This topic is timely. The ability to use an encrypted fs for removable media is creeping up the priority list for us. I'm not ready to tackle this item yet, though. If you come up with a solution, could you post a note? -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From jamesk@ifm-services.com Mon Jul 26 23:43:24 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:43:24 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Message headers. In-Reply-To: <200407261730.29660.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> References: <200407261730.29660.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Message-ID: <4105890C.3030407@ifm-services.com> >I am also posting them ... in case anyone has any suggestions. > > Re-install the machine with WBEL, of course. ;-) -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Tue Jul 27 00:35:50 2004 From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:35:50 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS - final word Message-ID: <000001c47369$49698930$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> Having revisted my slow Web server problem today (suspected DNS issue), I have now confirmed that the initial problem was caused by the Linux server not being given the correct permissions to use the in-house Win2K-based DNS services and so after a timeout the Linux server was falling back to using the default gateway (ADSL router) and thus our ISP's DNS servers. Telling the Linux server to use the ISP's DNS servers directly semi-cured the problem, but now that I have found some documents on the Internet relating to Linux-->Win2K-based DNS services and implemented the suggestions I now have a very fast Web server that delivers pages in 'no time at all'!! No doubt some would have have been able to sort this out in a flash - now, so will I if I need to again! Wonderful things 'learning curves'! Thanks again to all those who offered advice. Nigel Kendrick --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.727 / Virus Database: 482 - Release Date: 26/07/2004 From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Tue Jul 27 00:43:41 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:43:41 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Message headers. In-Reply-To: <4105890C.3030407@ifm-services.com> References: <200407261730.29660.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> <4105890C.3030407@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <200407261843.41625.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Definitely the best suggestion :) On Monday 26 July 2004 17:43, James Knowles wrote: > >I am also posting them ... in case anyone has any suggestions. > > Re-install the machine with WBEL, of course. ;-) From webmaster@ew3d.com Tue Jul 27 01:13:23 2004 From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:13:23 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Question on mysql In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41059E23.1080002@ew3d.com> Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com wrote: >Just a guess here: >The ps utility changed it's default display options since your old >version. Use '-m' to see the threads. > >If that was it, you may want to make an alias in bashrc so you won't >forget the '-m' every time: >alias ps='ps -m' > > Nice trick! I didn't know that. But, unfortunately I was watching it thru top to get somewhat of a realtime view. Still, never more than one mysqld running at a time, while under less load on the same machine, RH7.2 saw it as needing sometimes 5 or 6 instances. So, I'm still looking for a cure or reason. Best, John Hinton From mail-lists@karan.org Tue Jul 27 02:14:20 2004 From: mail-lists@karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:14:20 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Message headers. In-Reply-To: <200407261730.29660.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> References: <200407261730.29660.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Message-ID: <4105AC6C.1040800@karan.org> here is what a 5 min dig brings up: - Person in Question is Tom Haynes ( his email ID is/was being used to send these emails onto the list ) - Tom has posted from Mchsi.com ( which seems to be a rebranded ATT broadband provider in the US ) = 12.215.103.109 - These emails came from Italy. Maybe Tom's visiting the pope.... - The IP these emails came from : 217.220.57.226 : has never posted to the WBEL lists before ( or even that subnet that its a part of { 217.220.57.224 - 217.220.57.255 }). This is not him posting the e-mails in. This is someone else's machine that has his email address on there ( if its in an address book it might be someone who has replied to a msg that Tom sent into this list ). Its a spambot doing its thing, random from address and random to address. So who are the Italian users here with Windoze and using the allocated netrange 217.220.57.224 - 217.220.57.255 ... ? Although Tom does seem to have this : X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) - KB Rafael Baquero S. wrote: > Hi Haynest. > > These are the full headers of the three virus infected messages I have > received. I am also posting them to the list in case anyone has any > suggestions. > > Hope this helps. > > Rafael. > -- Karanbir Singh http://www.karan.org/ ICQ : 2522219 - Yahoo IM : z00dax GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc From haynest@mchsi.com Tue Jul 27 03:12:39 2004 From: haynest@mchsi.com (haynest@mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:12:39 +0000 Subject: [WBEL-users] Message headers. Message-ID: <072720040212.27667.32ed@mchsi.com> Tom's not at the Vatican this week. I am guilty as charged on the win2k (sorry). I run WBEL on a server though... It looked to me from the headers like the mail was coming from Italy too, and here I am stuck in Indiana deleting automatic "virus replies." Thanks... Tom > here is what a 5 min dig brings up: > > - Person in Question is Tom Haynes ( his email ID is/was being used to > send these emails onto the list ) > > - Tom has posted from Mchsi.com ( which seems to be a rebranded ATT > broadband provider in the US ) = 12.215.103.109 > > - These emails came from Italy. Maybe Tom's visiting the pope.... > > - The IP these emails came from : 217.220.57.226 : has never posted to > the WBEL lists before ( or even that subnet that its a part of { > 217.220.57.224 - 217.220.57.255 }). > > This is not him posting the e-mails in. This is someone else's machine > that has his email address on there ( if its in an address book it might > be someone who has replied to a msg that Tom sent into this list ). > > Its a spambot doing its thing, random from address and random to address. > > So who are the Italian users here with Windoze and using the allocated > netrange 217.220.57.224 - 217.220.57.255 ... ? > > Although Tom does seem to have this : > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) > > > - KB > > > Rafael Baquero S. wrote: > > Hi Haynest. > > > > These are the full headers of the three virus infected messages I have > > received. I am also posting them to the list in case anyone has any > > suggestions. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Rafael. > > > -- > > Karanbir Singh > > http://www.karan.org/ > ICQ : 2522219 - Yahoo IM : z00dax > GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc From chris@math.uu.se Tue Jul 27 10:24:15 2004 From: chris@math.uu.se (Christian Nygaard) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:24:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [WBEL-users] Compaq Opteron servers? In-Reply-To: <072720040212.27667.32ed@mchsi.com> References: <072720040212.27667.32ed@mchsi.com> Message-ID: Hi have anyone used Proliant DL145 Opteron servers with Whitebox and does they work well with it, like the netcard support and PXE boot? //Christian From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Jul 27 12:17:20 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:17:20 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS - final word In-Reply-To: <000001c47369$49698930$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> References: <000001c47369$49698930$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> Message-ID: <1090927040.18046.12.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-rJlAGrDePHPVDgSQmAkf Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 18:35, Nigel Kendrick wrote: > Having revisted my slow Web server problem today (suspected DNS issue), I > have now confirmed that the initial problem was caused by the Linux server > not being given the correct permissions to use the in-house Win2K-based DNS > services ... > ... but now that I have found some documents on the Internet > relating to Linux-->Win2K-based DNS services and implemented the suggestions > I now have a very fast Web server that delivers pages in 'no time at all'!! Nigel, Can you post links to the info you found. It might help others on the list. Thanks, Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-rJlAGrDePHPVDgSQmAkf Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 18:35, Nigel Kendrick wrote:

Having revisted my slow Web server problem today (suspected DNS issue), I
have now confirmed that the initial problem was caused by the Linux server
not being given the correct permissions to use the in-house Win2K-based DNS
services ...

<snip>

... but now that I have found some documents on the Internet
relating to Linux-->Win2K-based DNS services and implemented the suggestions
I now have a very fast Web server that delivers pages in 'no time at all'!!

Nigel,

Can you post links to the info you found. It might help others on the list.

Thanks,




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-rJlAGrDePHPVDgSQmAkf-- From javanree@vanree.net Tue Jul 27 12:28:35 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:28:35 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] ALSA RPM's ready Message-ID: <200407271328.35857.javanree@vanree.net> Since I couldn't stand the fact that somehow I got the source to work but not rebuilding the Freshmeat SRPM's I kept digging and finally managed to get it to work. Somehow some of the configure and make options in the spec file got in the way. Just leaving them all out and let configure sort itself out was the quick and dirty hack ;) The (S)RPM's are now available from my repository, only for the 2.4.21-15.0.3EL kernel, at http://www.vanree.net/wbel30/personal/ (works with yum) If somebody finds something missing, let me know please. -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Jul 27 12:45:49 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:45:49 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Question on mysql In-Reply-To: <41059E23.1080002@ew3d.com> References: <41059E23.1080002@ew3d.com> Message-ID: <1090928749.18047.24.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-+2+ArlEa5wqF3bTKtXO4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 19:13, John Hinton wrote: > Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com wrote: > > >Just a guess here: > >The ps utility changed it's default display options since your old > >version. Use '-m' to see the threads. > > > >If that was it, you may want to make an alias in bashrc so you won't > >forget the '-m' every time: > >alias ps='ps -m' > > > > > Nice trick! I didn't know that. > > But, unfortunately I was watching it thru top to get somewhat of a > realtime view. Still, never more than one mysqld running at a time, > while under less load on the same machine, RH7.2 saw it as needing > sometimes 5 or 6 instances. > > So, I'm still looking for a cure or reason. > > Best, > John Hinton John, When I run a test on my webserver (using the apache benchmark program {/usr/bin/ab}), I get many (most was 113) copies of /usr/libexec/mysqld (using this command to measure: ps -mef | grep -c mysqld). I installed the default version of mysql/httpd/php (currently mysql 3.23.58-1, httpd 2.0.46-32, php 4.3.2-11.1). The /etc/my.conf is also default. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-+2+ArlEa5wqF3bTKtXO4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 19:13, John Hinton wrote:

Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com wrote:

>Just a guess here:
>The ps utility changed it's default display options since your old 
>version.  Use '-m' to see the threads.
>
>If that was it, you may want to make an alias in bashrc so you won't 
>forget the '-m' every time:
>alias ps='ps -m'
>  
>
Nice trick! I didn't know that.

But, unfortunately I was watching it thru top to get somewhat of a 
realtime view. Still, never more than one mysqld running at a time, 
while under less load on the same machine, RH7.2 saw it as needing 
sometimes 5 or 6 instances.

So, I'm still looking for a cure or reason.

Best,
John Hinton

John,
When I run a test on my webserver (using the apache benchmark program {/usr/bin/ab}), I get many (most was 113) copies of /usr/libexec/mysqld (using this command to measure: ps -mef | grep -c mysqld). I installed the default version of mysql/httpd/php (currently mysql 3.23.58-1, httpd 2.0.46-32, php 4.3.2-11.1).

The /etc/my.conf is also default.




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-+2+ArlEa5wqF3bTKtXO4-- From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Jul 27 13:22:20 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:22:20 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Question on mysql In-Reply-To: <1090928749.18047.24.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <41059E23.1080002@ew3d.com> <1090928749.18047.24.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <1090930940.18047.38.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-CzAds1RBpECfRQHYDlZq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 06:45, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 19:13, John Hinton wrote: > > > Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com wrote: > > > > >Just a guess here: > > >The ps utility changed it's default display options since your old > > >version. Use '-m' to see the threads. > > > > > >If that was it, you may want to make an alias in bashrc so you won't > > >forget the '-m' every time: > > >alias ps='ps -m' > > > > > > > > Nice trick! I didn't know that. > > > > But, unfortunately I was watching it thru top to get somewhat of a > > realtime view. Still, never more than one mysqld running at a time, > > while under less load on the same machine, RH7.2 saw it as needing > > sometimes 5 or 6 instances. > > > > So, I'm still looking for a cure or reason. > > > > Best, > > John Hinton > > John, > When I run a test on my webserver (using the apache benchmark program > {/usr/bin/ab}), I get many (most was 113) copies of > /usr/libexec/mysqld (using this command to measure: ps -mef | grep -c > mysqld). I installed the default version of mysql/httpd/php > (currently mysql 3.23.58-1, httpd 2.0.46-32, php 4.3.2-11.1). > > The /etc/my.conf is also default. > BTW ... When there are 113 threads running mysqld using ps -mef ... there is only 1 mysqld in top. There are 113 different mysqld threads running, all with the user as mysql (all with a different PID) ... but top only shows 1 ... it shows the main thread that creates the others, but not the other threads. This is because of a change in the default behavior in top and not a problem with mysqld ... at least for me. If you press the Shift-H command while in top (to show all threads), you should see all mysqld processes in top. When idle, I normally have 2 mysql threads running. Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-CzAds1RBpECfRQHYDlZq Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 06:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 19:13, John Hinton wrote:

Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com wrote: >Just a guess here: >The ps utility changed it's default display options since your old >version. Use '-m' to see the threads. > >If that was it, you may want to make an alias in bashrc so you won't >forget the '-m' every time: >alias ps='ps -m' > > Nice trick! I didn't know that. But, unfortunately I was watching it thru top to get somewhat of a realtime view. Still, never more than one mysqld running at a time, while under less load on the same machine, RH7.2 saw it as needing sometimes 5 or 6 instances. So, I'm still looking for a cure or reason. Best, John Hinton

John,
When I run a test on my webserver (using the apache benchmark program {/usr/bin/ab}), I get many (most was 113) copies of /usr/libexec/mysqld (using this command to measure: ps -mef | grep -c mysqld). I installed the default version of mysql/httpd/php (currently mysql 3.23.58-1, httpd 2.0.46-32, php 4.3.2-11.1).

The /etc/my.conf is also default.

BTW ... When there are 113 threads running mysqld using ps -mef ... there is only 1 mysqld in top. There are 113 different mysqld threads running, all with the user as mysql (all with a different PID) ... but top only shows 1 ... it shows the main thread that creates the others, but not the other threads.

This is because of a change in the default behavior in top and not a problem with mysqld ... at least for me.

If you press the Shift-H command while in top (to show all threads), you should see all mysqld processes in top.

When idle, I normally have 2 mysql threads running.

















Johnny Hughes

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--=-CzAds1RBpECfRQHYDlZq-- From weage98@yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 13:30:45 2004 From: weage98@yahoo.com (Joshua Weage) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: kickstart scripts Message-ID: <20040727123045.3373.qmail@web40410.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1084912528-1090931445=:2943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Here is the kickstart file and associated script I use to kickstart workstations. I don't actually run yum to update the machine, but that would be trivial to add to the end of the second script. All additional software that I install goes into /usr/local and is packaged as an RPM. Josh ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! 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<1090930940.18047.38.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <4106530E.8090102@ew3d.com> Johnny Hughes wrote: >> > BTW ... When there are 113 threads running mysqld using ps -mef ... > there is only 1 mysqld in top. There are 113 different mysqld > threads running, all with the user as mysql (all with a different PID) > ... but top only shows 1 ... it shows the main thread that creates the > others, but not the other threads. > > This is because of a change in the default behavior in top and not a > problem with mysqld ... at least for me. > > If you press the Shift-H command while in top (to show all threads), > you should see all mysqld processes in top. > > When idle, I normally have 2 mysql threads running. EUREKA!!! There they are! U da man! Yup, I guess I was just sitting with an old OS and have a lot of catching up to do. But, I must admit, I did not want to go to Apache 2 until this year, so RH7.2 was my choice. I have a LOT of writes coming in to mysql and some of the queries are executed maybe in 50 variants. Therefore, threading was just a normal way of life on the 7.2 system. I normally watch via top, as these are up and down at all times. Much easier to let it refresh every few seconds than sit here and to the ps command ever few seconds. What I find funny, is that top is hiding threads of mysqld, but I see multiple versions of saslauthd, sendmail, apache, kjournald and so on. I suppose sasl for instance is set to start 5 instances by default as I seem to always see 5? But in the case of sendmail and apache, the numbers vary under top without the shift-H. So, I'm left wondering why the difference? Thanks for that shift-H tip! Assuming top's reporting was the same, I never would have been looking for that. Especially when combined with the above confusion. Thanks, John Hinton From webmaster@ew3d.com Tue Jul 27 14:26:29 2004 From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:26:29 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars Message-ID: <41065805.6000706@ew3d.com> Moving from RedHat 7.2 to WBEL, there seems to be a lots of chars which just don't exist anymore? Various websites moved from one machine to the other suddenly have ? marks on the pages. When looking at the code, these are middot, copywrite and so on characters. Seems some html editors are starting to put in a middot instead of the html · tag. I'm also noticing in several manpages, some characters are not recognized (no graphical interface installed). So, it seems that the new RedHat flagship product in all it's glory has dumped these characters? I'm seeing this same situation on six different webserver installations. Does anybody know what up with that? Meanwhile the really sad news.... It seems M$ has decided to reduce the size of the code created by FP, and is using the middot char and the copywrite char. Now, has anyone 'ever' know M$ to reduce the size of it's code on anything? Could it be they are taking a stab at some of the 'nix systems? I have spent a few hours googling on this whole deal, but it is very tough to drill down to anything of value. And maybe someone could try using middot or copywrite chars in a graphical environment to see if the char sets are different? This is driving me nuts! Yes, the use of middot and copywrite are not w3c compliant to my knowledge, but the appearance of problems in the man pages leads me to believe some char set is not being brought in. As a for instance, take a look at the man for rsync. Under EXAMPLES, look at the get: command rsync -avuzb --exclude ´*~´ samba:samba/ That's a bit confusing to figure out! :) Thanks, John Hinton From jamey@library.beau.org Tue Jul 27 15:06:25 2004 From: jamey@library.beau.org (Jamey Fletcher) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:06:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Whitebox Linux Site Down? In-Reply-To: <35772c3a0407270539444f7305@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Robert Kropiewnicki wrote: > Did the Whitebox Linux site crash or is it down for system maintenance? OOooooops! Thanks for spotting that - we did some re-arranging of the hosted domains here last night, and apparently that was one of the casualties. Temporary workaround: http://www.beau.org/~jmorris/linux/whitebox/ Which is simply another pathway to the same files. As soon as John arises from the dead, I'm sure he'll see this and fix it. -- Jamey ----<--<@ jamey@beau.lib.la.us From Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com Tue Jul 27 15:13:51 2004 From: Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com (Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:13:51 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars In-Reply-To: <41065805.6000706@ew3d.com> Message-ID: I missed my guess on your mysqld threads question, but I'll try again with this one. Replace the content of /etc/sysconfig/i18n with this: LANG="en_US" SUPPORTED="en_US:en" SYSFONT="lat0-8" SYSFONTACM="iso01" The default font set (?latarcyrheb-sun16) works fine in a GUI terminal but not a vt100 terminal emulator. John Hinton Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org 07/27/2004 08:26 AM To Whitebox Users cc Subject [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars Moving from RedHat 7.2 to WBEL, there seems to be a lots of chars which just don't exist anymore? Various websites moved from one machine to the other suddenly have ? marks on the pages. When looking at the code, these are middot, copywrite and so on characters. Seems some html editors are starting to put in a middot instead of the html · tag. I'm also noticing in several manpages, some characters are not recognized (no graphical interface installed). So, it seems that the new RedHat flagship product in all it's glory has dumped these characters? I'm seeing this same situation on six different webserver installations. Does anybody know what up with that? Meanwhile the really sad news.... It seems M$ has decided to reduce the size of the code created by FP, and is using the middot char and the copywrite char. Now, has anyone 'ever' know M$ to reduce the size of it's code on anything? Could it be they are taking a stab at some of the 'nix systems? I have spent a few hours googling on this whole deal, but it is very tough to drill down to anything of value. And maybe someone could try using middot or copywrite chars in a graphical environment to see if the char sets are different? This is driving me nuts! Yes, the use of middot and copywrite are not w3c compliant to my knowledge, but the appearance of problems in the man pages leads me to believe some char set is not being brought in. As a for instance, take a look at the man for rsync. Under EXAMPLES, look at the get: command rsync -avuzb --exclude ´*~´ samba:samba/ That's a bit confusing to figure out! :) Thanks, John Hinton _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From weage98@yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 15:21:22 2004 From: weage98@yahoo.com (Joshua Weage) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Network kickstart scripts Message-ID: <20040727142122.63488.qmail@web40412.mail.yahoo.com> So much for that. For those on the digest, here are the files inlined: Kickstart File <--- BEGIN HERE ----> # RedHat Advanced Server 3 install nfs --server 10.164.29.1 --dir /mnt/rm8000_2/netboot/redhat/3AS/orig lang en_US langsupport en_US keyboard us mouse skipx network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp rootpw --iscrypted $1$U0�wt�6N$vQ6kFx4k.uhOR9Cxm8M7A. firewall --disabled authconfig --enableshadow --enablemd5 --enablecache --enablenis --nisdomain atgdetroit timezone America/Detroit bootloader --location=mbr reboot clearpart --linux part /boot --fstype ext3 --size=256 part / --fstype ext3 --size=6124 part swap --recommended part /var --fstype ext3 --size=1024 part /usr/local --fstype ext3 --size=1 --grow %packages --resolvedeps @ Everything %post GATEWAY=10.164.59.1 NFSSERV=10.164.29.1 BOOTDIR=/mnt/rm8000_2/netboot NISDOMAIN=atgdetroit # # configure eth0 with a static IP # echo "" echo "Configure eth0 static IP address" IP=`ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk '{print $2}' | awk -F: '{print $2}'` HW=`ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}'` NM=`ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk '{print $4}' | awk -F: '{print $2}'` cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts echo "DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=none HWADDR=$HW IPADDR=$IP GATEWAY=$GATEWAY NETMASK=$NM ONBOOT=yes USERCTL=no PEERDNS=no TYPE=Ethernet" > ifcfg-eth0 cd /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices ln /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 ifcfg-eth0 # # Mount netboot mkdir /mnt/netboot chmod 755 /mnt/netboot mount -r -o nolock ${NFSSERV}:${BOOTDIR} /mnt/netboot echo "" echo "Configuring hostname" HOSTNAME=`grep $IP /mnt/netboot/config/troy/hosts | awk '{print $3}'` echo "NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=$HOSTNAME" >/etc/sysconfig/network if [ "$NISDOMAIN" != "NA" ] then echo "NISDOMAIN=$NISDOMAIN" >>/etc/sysconfig/network fi echo "" echo "Adding NFS disks" mkdir /jobs mkdir /data chmod 755 /jobs chmod 755 /data echo "" >> /etc/fstab echo "warlns1:/raid/jobs /jobs nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=20,hard,intr 0 0" >> /etc/fstab echo "warlns1:/raid/home /home nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=20,hard,intr 0 0" >> /etc/fstab echo "warlns1:/raid/data /data nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=20,hard,intr 0 0" >> /etc/fstab echo "warlns1:/mnt/rm8000_2/netboot /mnt/netboot nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=20,hard,intr 0 0" >> /etc/fstab echo "" >> /etc/fstab echo "" echo "Configuring desktop" echo "DESKTOP=KDE" > /etc/sysconfig/desktop echo "DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE" >> /etc/sysconfig/desktop # Clean out /usr/local rm -rf /usr/local/* # root remote access echo "rsh" >> /etc/securetty echo "rlogin" >> /etc/securetty # standard system updates /mnt/netboot/bin/config-troy-3AS-ws <---- END HERE ----> config-troy-3AS-ws script <---- BEGIN HERE ----> #!/bin/sh # # config script for troy 3AS workstations # export PATH="/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin" # Test for correct OS version VERSION=`cat /etc/redhat-release` if [ "$VERSION" != 'Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon)' ]; then echo "You have attempted to run the Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon)" echo "script on $VERSION" echo " " exit 1 fi echo " " echo "Copying config files" cp /mnt/netboot/config/troy/hosts.equiv /root/.rhosts chmod 400 /root/.rhosts cp /mnt/netboot/config/troy/hosts.equiv /etc/hosts.equiv chmod 644 /etc/hosts.equiv cp /mnt/netboot/config/troy/ntp.conf /etc/ntp.conf chmod 644 /etc/ntp.conf cp /mnt/netboot/config/troy/hosts /etc/hosts chmod 644 /etc/hosts cp /mnt/netboot/config/troy/sudoers /etc/sudoers chmod 440 /etc/sudoers [ ! -d /root/.ssh ] && mkdir /root/.ssh chmod 700 /root/.ssh cp /mnt/netboot/config/common/ssh/authorized_keys /root/.ssh cp /mnt/netboot/config/common/ssh/id_dsa /root/.ssh cp /mnt/netboot/config/common/ssh/id_dsa.pub /root/.ssh chmod 644 /root/.ssh/authorized_keys chmod 600 /root/.ssh/id_dsa chmod 644 /root/.ssh/id_dsa.pub echo " " echo "Configuring services" /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 rawdevices off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 mdmonitor off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 isdn off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 iptables off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 ip6tables off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 pcmcia off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 sendmail off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 autofs off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 rhnsd off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 hpoj off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 canna off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 FreeWnn off /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 ntpd on /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 vsftpd on /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 rexec on /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 rlogin on /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 rsh on /sbin/chkconfig --level 2345 telnet on /etc/init.d/ntpd start echo " " echo "Configuring local disk" [ ! -d /usr/local/etc ] && mkdir /usr/local/etc [ ! -d /usr/local/tmp ] && mkdir /usr/local/tmp chmod 777 /usr/local/tmp cp /mnt/netboot/config/common/cshrc /usr/local/etc/cshrc chmod 644 /usr/local/etc/cshrc echo " " echo "Installing local software" for file in /mnt/netboot/local-rpms/common/*; do rpm -Uvh --nodeps $file done for file in /mnt/netboot/local-rpms/common-3AS/*; do rpm -Uvh --nodeps $file done for file in /mnt/netboot/local-rpms/common-troy/*; do rpm -Uvh --nodeps $file done for file in /mnt/netboot/local-rpms/workstation/*; do rpm -Uvh --nodeps $file done for file in /mnt/netboot/local-rpms/workstation-3AS/*; do rpm -Uvh --nodeps $file done echo " " echo "Configuring local software" #cp /mnt/netboot/config/pes/server_name /var/spool/pbs/server_name #chmod 644 /var/spool/pbs/server_name # /usr/sbin/makewhatis echo "" echo "Done" <---- END HERE ----> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From vickir@beau.org Tue Jul 27 15:55:40 2004 From: vickir@beau.org (Vicki Reeves) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:55:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Whitebox Linux Site Down? In-Reply-To: <35772c3a0407270539444f7305@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Robert Kropiewnicki wrote: > Did the Whitebox Linux site crash or is it down for system maintenance? Whatever has happened, was not planned. Thanks for the heads up. We'll get it back up asap. From emorrison@ncen.org Tue Jul 27 16:45:12 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:45:12 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Perl MCPAN question Message-ID: <002401c473f0$b7db89e0$47c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> I hate to admin this but I pulled a deadhead stunt. While going through the prompted manual config to setup perl to use the -MCPAN options I put in a bad parameter. Does anyone know where I can edit that information? I sure would appreciate the help. Ed From steve.anderson@bipsolutions.com Tue Jul 27 16:48:36 2004 From: steve.anderson@bipsolutions.com (Steve Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:48:36 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Perl MCPAN question In-Reply-To: <002401c473f0$b7db89e0$47c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: Try /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/CPAN/Config.pm If you just remove it, you'll be prompted to reconfigure. Or you could just edit it. Steve Anderson -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Ed Morrison Sent: 27 July 2004 16:45 To: WBEL Users Subject: [WBEL-users] Perl MCPAN question I hate to admin this but I pulled a deadhead stunt. While going through the prompted manual config to setup perl to use the -MCPAN options I put in a bad parameter. Does anyone know where I can edit that information? I sure would appreciate the help. Ed _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users **************************************************************************** This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, recorded and retained by BiP Solutions Ltd. E-mail monitoring/ blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at any time.You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents. **************************************************************************** From jamesk@ifm-services.com Tue Jul 27 17:02:03 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:02:03 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars In-Reply-To: <41065805.6000706@ew3d.com> References: <41065805.6000706@ew3d.com> Message-ID: <41067C7B.3070200@ifm-services.com> > Various websites ... have ? marks on the pages. Ooohhh... I never noticed this. Yes, I see ? instead of � (©). I have the default character set configured for UTF-8. However, if I manually change to ISO-8859-1 [on mozilla use View | Character Encoding | Western (ISO-8859-1)], *then* I see the copyright symbol. (I'm looking at the bottom of http://www.thearma.org/ for the copyright symbol.) I've not tried to hunt down any page that uses middot. I don't know that it's a m$ conspiracy as much as arrogantly presuming that "everybody" will see it fine since "everybody" is using IE on Win32... combined with the fact that m$ hasn't given a rip about standards except when they're lagging behind everybody else ("embrace"). When they catch up then they'll "extend" the standards in a way (such as you see), that will "not break anything" [if you're not running IE on Win32]. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From emorrison@ncen.org Tue Jul 27 17:12:12 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:12:12 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Perl MCPAN question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002501c473f4$7d57ff70$47c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Awesome Steve that got me going. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Steve Anderson Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:49 AM To: 'WBEL Users' Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] Perl MCPAN question Try /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/CPAN/Config.pm If you just remove it, you'll be prompted to reconfigure. Or you could just edit it. Steve Anderson -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Ed Morrison Sent: 27 July 2004 16:45 To: WBEL Users Subject: [WBEL-users] Perl MCPAN question I hate to admin this but I pulled a deadhead stunt. While going through the prompted manual config to setup perl to use the -MCPAN options I put in a bad parameter. Does anyone know where I can edit that information? I sure would appreciate the help. Ed _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users ************************************************************************ **** This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, recorded and retained by BiP Solutions Ltd. E-mail monitoring/ blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at any time.You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents. ************************************************************************ **** _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From jamesk@ifm-services.com Tue Jul 27 17:07:32 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:07:32 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Question on mysql In-Reply-To: <4106530E.8090102@ew3d.com> References: <41059E23.1080002@ew3d.com> <1090928749.18047.24.camel@Myth.home.local> <1090930940.18047.38.camel@Myth.home.local> <4106530E.8090102@ew3d.com> Message-ID: <41067DC4.9050806@ifm-services.com> > top is hiding threads of mysqld, but I see multiple versions of ... I would assume that this is processes vs. threads. (?) -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From haynest@mchsi.com Tue Jul 27 18:08:48 2004 From: haynest@mchsi.com (Haynest) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:08:48 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Message-ID: ----------smyhibxgriyhphcqkozs Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fotoinfo

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I never noticed this. Yes, I see ? instead of � (©). > > I have the default character set configured for UTF-8. However, if I > manually change to ISO-8859-1 [on mozilla use View | Character > Encoding | Western (ISO-8859-1)], *then* I see the copyright symbol. > (I'm looking at the bottom of http://www.thearma.org/ for the > copyright symbol.) > > I've not tried to hunt down any page that uses middot. > > I don't know that it's a m$ conspiracy as much as arrogantly presuming > that "everybody" will see it fine since "everybody" is using IE on > Win32... combined with the fact that m$ hasn't given a rip about > standards except when they're lagging behind everybody else > ("embrace"). When they catch up then they'll "extend" the standards in > a way (such as you see), that will "not break anything" [if you're not > running IE on Win32]. > What's happening, is because RHEL/WBEL can't figure out what the char is, it is delivering an unreadable replacement char, which does not work for anyone running MSIE on a Win machine. And Mozilla is doing the same thing on Win32. The problem is the delivery to the browser. I'll try the char set changes. Odd that even though RedHat ask for language and such on the way in, they decided to default to this set. Man... I hate messing with char sets! Will have to do this on a test box first to see what breaks. This has driven me nuts!! Why why why??? We back up in the name of progress..... Thanks, John Hinton From Greg.King@lmit.com Tue Jul 27 17:27:29 2004 From: Greg.King@lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:27:29 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] fresh install of WBEL, chkrootkit output Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BE0D5@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I did a core install of the latest WBEL in our lab, then removed it down to about 210 packages. After applying our security scripts to make some changes to the default I began adding some tools such as chkrootkit (version .43) The output flagged 2 items, both after google searching showed that they look like false positives but I would like to know. 1. /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/.packlist >From what i read some rpms sometimes leave such clutter behind and checkrootkit is simply reporting that such a file exists in /usr/lib. 2. eth0: PF_PACKET(/sbin/dhclient) Also from reading this seems to be a necessary behavior for the dhclient if it is running. thanks, Greg King LMIT From jamesk@ifm-services.com Tue Jul 27 19:01:52 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:01:52 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars In-Reply-To: <410680C0.7000907@ew3d.com> References: <41065805.6000706@ew3d.com> <41067C7B.3070200@ifm-services.com> <410680C0.7000907@ew3d.com> Message-ID: <41069890.1040204@ifm-services.com> > We back up in the name of progress..... Well, if Microsoft would use UTF-8 since it can't seem to use HTML character encoding... but that would be an intelligent thing to do. :-) Actually, looking at it, it seems to work OK if the HTML has in the tag. This, of course, explicitly tells the browser what character set to use. I can leave the browser set for UTF-8, but the explicit "charset" value allows the browser to switch appropriately without user intervention. Looks like the old problem of the browser guessing wrong. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From denis@just-servers.co.uk Tue Jul 27 22:27:39 2004 From: denis@just-servers.co.uk (Denis Croombs) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:27:39 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Promise IDE hardware raid 1 built onto an Intel Zeon Server motherboard Message-ID: <019601c47420$8be08860$1001a8c0@Laptop> I have a couple of Intel Zeon motherboards with Promise IDE raid system built in, I want to use the Hardware Raid 1(mirroring on 2 drives), I have setup the raid and built the mirror, but Whitebox just sees the 2 drives and not the single mirror, any clues as to how to make this work with Whitebox ? Thanks Denis -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Marvin the E-Mail scanner From owensby@access4less.net Tue Jul 27 23:37:07 2004 From: owensby@access4less.net (Dean Owensby) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:37:07 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Whitebox-users digest, Vol 1 #336 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <20040727170000.30903.78035.Mailman@library.beau.org> References: <20040727170000.30903.78035.Mailman@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <4106D913.3070403@access4less.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040104050509050809070308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:20:16 -0400 >From: John Hinton >To: Whitebox Users >Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars > >James Knowles wrote: > > > >>>Various websites ... have ? marks on the pages. >>> >>> >> >>Ooohhh... I never noticed this. Yes, I see ? instead of � (©). >> >>I have the default character set configured for UTF-8. However, if I >>manually change to ISO-8859-1 [on mozilla use View | Character >>Encoding | Western (ISO-8859-1)], *then* I see the copyright symbol. >>(I'm looking at the bottom of http://www.thearma.org/ for the >>copyright symbol.) >> >>I've not tried to hunt down any page that uses middot. >> >>I don't know that it's a m$ conspiracy as much as arrogantly presuming >>that "everybody" will see it fine since "everybody" is using IE on >>Win32... combined with the fact that m$ hasn't given a rip about >>standards except when they're lagging behind everybody else >>("embrace"). When they catch up then they'll "extend" the standards in >>a way (such as you see), that will "not break anything" [if you're not >>running IE on Win32]. >> >> >> >What's happening, is because RHEL/WBEL can't figure out what the char >is, it is delivering an unreadable replacement char, which does not work >for anyone running MSIE on a Win machine. And Mozilla is doing the same >thing on Win32. The problem is the delivery to the browser. > >I'll try the char set changes. Odd that even though RedHat ask for >language and such on the way in, they decided to default to this set. >Man... I hate messing with char sets! Will have to do this on a test box >first to see what breaks. This has driven me nuts!! Why why why??? We >back up in the name of progress..... > >Thanks, >John Hinton > >--__--__-- > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Whitebox-users mailing list >Whitebox-users@beau.org >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > >End of Whitebox-users Digest > > > I tried arma.org on Mandrake 10 KDE, using Netscape 7.1. Odd, that Mandrake as a RH rpm clone, and Netscape as a closet version of Mozilla, displays the chars in default. Same results in SuSE 9.1 Pro. Maybe do a "diff" on them, to find the magic missile? luck - O. dfowensby@netscape.net norfolk, va -- --------------040104050509050809070308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:20:16 -0400
From: John Hinton <webmaster@ew3d.com>
To: Whitebox Users <whitebox-users@beau.org>
Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars

James Knowles wrote:

Various websites ... have ? marks on the pages.


Ooohhh... I never noticed this. Yes, I see ? instead of © (&copy;).

I have the default character set configured for UTF-8. However, if I 
manually change to ISO-8859-1 [on mozilla use View | Character 
Encoding | Western (ISO-8859-1)], *then* I see the copyright symbol. 
(I'm looking at the bottom of http://www.thearma.org/ for the 
copyright symbol.)

I've not tried to hunt down any page that uses middot.

I don't know that it's a m$ conspiracy as much as arrogantly presuming 
that "everybody" will see it fine since "everybody" is using IE on 
Win32... combined with the fact that m$ hasn't given a rip about 
standards except when they're lagging behind everybody else 
("embrace"). When they catch up then they'll "extend" the standards in 
a way (such as you see), that will "not break anything" [if you're not 
running IE on Win32].

What's happening, is because RHEL/WBEL can't figure out what the char 
is, it is delivering an unreadable replacement char, which does not work 
for anyone running MSIE on a Win machine. And Mozilla is doing the same 
thing on Win32. The problem is the delivery to the browser.

I'll try the char set changes. Odd that even though RedHat ask for 
language and such on the way in, they decided to default to this set. 
Man... I hate messing with char sets! Will have to do this on a test box 
first to see what breaks. This has driven me nuts!! Why why why??? We 
back up in the name of progress.....

Thanks,
John Hinton

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I tried arma.org on Mandrake 10 KDE, using Netscape 7.1. Odd, that Mandrake as a RH rpm clone, and Netscape as a closet version of Mozilla, displays the chars in default. Same results in SuSE 9.1 Pro.
Maybe do a "diff" on them, to find the magic missile?

luck - O.

dfowensby@netscape.net
norfolk, va

--------------040104050509050809070308-- From jmorris@beau.org Wed Jul 28 03:30:47 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:30:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Character Set Changes - Missing Chars In-Reply-To: <41065805.6000706@ew3d.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, John Hinton wrote: > Yes, the use of middot and copywrite are not w3c compliant to my > knowledge, but the appearance of problems in the man pages leads me to > believe some char set is not being brought in. As a for instance, take a > look at the man for rsync. Under EXAMPLES, look at the get: command The W3C caved and sanctioned alternate character sets, all you have to do is add a header stating you are using a Windows character set and you are now legal. So now all browsers must fully support the various Windows codepages in addition to the iso-8859-* sets and of course we can't leave out the joy that is UTF-8. And as for RHEL/WBEL's manpages, UTF-8 is now the order of the day and any terminal emulation that can't handle it is going to see odd things. Gnome term's can deal with it correctly but the console isn't quite there yet. If you want to be freaked out, startup vi (ok, vim) on the comps.xml file and watch the wierd beauty of almost every symbolset man currently writes with on the screen at once.... in -VI-. Assuming of course you installed all of the fonts. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Wed Jul 28 11:00:29 2004 From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:00:29 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS - final word In-Reply-To: <1090927040.18046.12.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <000001c47489$b7182150$1974a8c0@NKLAPTOP> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C47492.18DC8950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Johnny (and the rest), =20 A summary of the required changes is as follows: =20 1) Windows 2000 server: DNS server admin tool - under server properties, select Security tab and use Advanced button add 'EVERYONE' with read = access to the DNS server service. =20 This gives every system on the network permission to use the DNS server = - I suspect it would be possible to create a user on the Win2K server that = Samba could authenticate against in order to not 'open up' things as much but = I haven't tried this. =20 2) resolv.conf on the Linux server has the following lines in it = referring to the Win2K domain and the DNS server's IP address: =20 search adminsvr.headoffice nameserver 192.168.101.170 =20 No doubt this is/was a no-brainer for many, but I'm still getting up to speed with Linux-->Windows world issues. =20 Nigel -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org = [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes Sent: 27 July 2004 12:17 To: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS - final word On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 18:35, Nigel Kendrick wrote:=20 Having revisted my slow Web server problem today (suspected DNS issue), = I have now confirmed that the initial problem was caused by the Linux = server not being given the correct permissions to use the in-house Win2K-based = DNS services ...=20 =20 ... but now that I have found some documents on the Internet relating to Linux-->Win2K-based DNS services and implemented the = suggestions I now have a very fast Web server that delivers pages in 'no time at = all'!! Nigel, Can you post links to the info you found. It might help others on the = list. Thanks,=20 Johnny Hughes HYPERLINK "http://www.hughesjr.com"HughesJR.com =09 =20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.727 / Virus Database: 482 - Release Date: 26/07/2004 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C47492.18DC8950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Hi=20 Johnny (and the rest),

A=20 summary of the required changes is as follows:

1)=20 Windows 2000 server: DNS server admin tool - under server properties, = select=20 Security tab and use Advanced button add 'EVERYONE' with read = access to the=20 DNS server service.

This=20 gives every system on the network permission to use the DNS server - I = suspect=20 it would be possible to create a user on the Win2K server that = Samba could=20 authenticate against in order to not 'open up' things as much but I = haven't=20 tried this.

2) resolv.conf on the Linux server has the = following=20 lines in it referring to the Win2K domain and the DNS server's IP=20 address:

search=20 adminsvr.headoffice

nameserver=20 192.168.101.170

No doubt this is/was a no-brainer for many, = but I'm=20 still getting up to speed with Linux-->Windows world=20 issues.

Nigel

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To:=20 whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Slow DNS - = final=20 word

On Mon, 2004-07-26 at = 18:35,=20 Nigel Kendrick wrote:=20

Having =
revisted my slow Web server problem today (suspected DNS issue), I
have now confirmed that the initial problem was caused by the Linux =
server
not being given the correct permissions to use the in-house Win2K-based =
DNS
services ... =

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... but now =
that I have found some documents on the Internet
relating to Linux-->Win2K-based DNS services and implemented the =
suggestions
I now have a very fast Web server that delivers pages in 'no time at =
all'!!

Nigel,

Can=20 you post links to the info you found. It might help others on = the=20 list.

Thanks,

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C47492.18DC8950-- From whitebox@greatlakedata.com Wed Jul 28 14:29:18 2004 From: whitebox@greatlakedata.com (gregwm) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:29:18 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? Message-ID: <1091021357.4728.61452.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> hi, i'm wavering. i intended to install whitebox. but i really would like to be able to do installs remotely. we downloaded and burned knoppix3.4 just to get remote access, with the intention of merely using it to install whitebox. but anaconda doesn't seem to be able to do a hd install via vnc. am i wrong? or is there another way or another installer? so now i'm wondering if i should actually jump ship and install debian. i've heard there are multiple installers, and i'd think it likely one might do what i want. the impression i've gotten is, while redhat became everyman's distro, debian remains more a geeks distro, you can do more but you have to know more and work harder. so i guess i'm worried about entering unfamiliar territory. yeah i'm comfy with rpm and yum, but more to the point, documentation, and hardware, more often seem to be aimed at redhat than other distros. sincere apologies if i start a distro flamewar, that's not what i want, but i would appreciate some good pointers to making a good decision here. tia, greg -- gregory whitley mott it coordinator nonviolentpeaceforce.org From steve.anderson@bipsolutions.com Wed Jul 28 14:51:05 2004 From: steve.anderson@bipsolutions.com (Steve Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:51:05 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? In-Reply-To: <1091021357.4728.61452.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> Message-ID: If your boxes can handle PXE, then whitebox is great for remote installs. It's a little finicky to set up, but one you have, you can script the install so you can have a box set up within half an hour, and that's not time you have to do anything in. Switch on, select the install option, walk away. As for vnc, well, it supports it during installation. Drop in the boot disk (or use PXE) and add vnc to the boot line. http://elibrary.fultus.com/technical/index.jsp?topic=/com.fultus.redhat.elin ux3/manuals/rhel-ig-x8664-multi-en-3/ap-bootopts.html If you've already got an X server, you can forward to that too. Look at the bottom of the page. Steve Anderson -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of gregwm Sent: 28 July 2004 14:29 To: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? hi, i'm wavering. i intended to install whitebox. but i really would like to be able to do installs remotely. we downloaded and burned knoppix3.4 just to get remote access, with the intention of merely using it to install whitebox. but anaconda doesn't seem to be able to do a hd install via vnc. am i wrong? or is there another way or another installer? so now i'm wondering if i should actually jump ship and install debian. i've heard there are multiple installers, and i'd think it likely one might do what i want. the impression i've gotten is, while redhat became everyman's distro, debian remains more a geeks distro, you can do more but you have to know more and work harder. so i guess i'm worried about entering unfamiliar territory. yeah i'm comfy with rpm and yum, but more to the point, documentation, and hardware, more often seem to be aimed at redhat than other distros. sincere apologies if i start a distro flamewar, that's not what i want, but i would appreciate some good pointers to making a good decision here. tia, greg -- gregory whitley mott it coordinator nonviolentpeaceforce.org _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users **************************************************************************** This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, recorded and retained by BiP Solutions Ltd. E-mail monitoring/ blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at any time.You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents. **************************************************************************** From gonzalomrios@yahoo.com.ar Wed Jul 28 15:09:59 2004 From: gonzalomrios@yahoo.com.ar (Gonzalo M. Rios) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:09:59 -0300 Subject: [WBEL-users] whitebox + mod_jk2 in rpm Message-ID: <4107B3B7.3040806@yahoo.com.ar> Hello, somebody knows where I can obtain the connector of apache for tomcat, mod_jk2 in rpm for whitebox? Thanks. From pavel.krebs@varicad.com Wed Jul 28 15:33:27 2004 From: pavel.krebs@varicad.com (Pavel Krebs) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:33:27 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? In-Reply-To: <1091021357.4728.61452.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> References: <1091021357.4728.61452.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> Message-ID: <4107B937.5080004@varicad.com> Remote install is possible. Look at: http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-January/000279.html Pavel gregwm napsal(a): >hi, > >i'm wavering. i intended to install whitebox. but i really would like >to be able to do installs remotely. > >we downloaded and burned knoppix3.4 just to get remote access, with the >intention of merely using it to install whitebox. but anaconda doesn't >seem to be able to do a hd install via vnc. am i wrong? or is there >another way or another installer? > >so now i'm wondering if i should actually jump ship and install debian. >i've heard there are multiple installers, and i'd think it likely one >might do what i want. the impression i've gotten is, while redhat >became everyman's distro, debian remains more a geeks distro, you can do >more but you have to know more and work harder. > >so i guess i'm worried about entering unfamiliar territory. yeah i'm comfy >with rpm and yum, but more to the point, documentation, and hardware, >more often seem to be aimed at redhat than other distros. > >sincere apologies if i start a distro flamewar, that's not what i >want, but i would appreciate some good pointers to making a good decision >here. > >tia, >greg > > From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Wed Jul 28 15:45:34 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] whitebox + mod_jk2 in rpm In-Reply-To: <4107B3B7.3040806@yahoo.com.ar> References: <4107B3B7.3040806@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <2848.12.29.16.103.1091025934.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Gonzalo M. Rios said: > Hello, somebody knows where I can obtain the connector of apache for > tomcat, mod_jk2 in rpm for whitebox? Thanks. http://jpackage.org/ -- William Hooper From whitebox@greatlakedata.com Wed Jul 28 16:10:49 2004 From: whitebox@greatlakedata.com (gregwm) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:10:49 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1091027446.4723.61775.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 08:51, Steve Anderson wrote: > If your boxes can handle PXE, then whitebox is great for remote installs. > > It's a little finicky to set up, but one you have, you can script the > install so you can have a box set up within half an hour, and that's not > time you have to do anything in. Switch on, select the install option, walk > away. i'd appreciate further pointers here. i don't want kickstart. i just want vnc control, with no need for intervention at a machine far away. iiuc that means i need to do a hard disk install via vnc. i don't see that anaconda can do that. if i'm wrong, or if another installer can do this, i'd love to know. -g -- gregory whitley mott it coordinator nonviolentpeaceforce.org From steve.anderson@bipsolutions.com Wed Jul 28 16:26:24 2004 From: steve.anderson@bipsolutions.com (Steve Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:26:24 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? In-Reply-To: <1091027446.4723.61775.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> Message-ID: A few questions: Does the server have a keyboard and monitor attached? Does it have a CD drive? Do you have a dhcp server? I'll assume yes to all three for now. Then all you should need to do is: Boot the server with disk 1 When it prompts you for what you want to do type : linux vnc Find out what ip address it's been assigned by the dhcp server. Vnc to that. ( you might need to also add vncpassword=password on the linux line. I'm not sure) Steve Anderson -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of gregwm Sent: 28 July 2004 16:11 To: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 08:51, Steve Anderson wrote: > If your boxes can handle PXE, then whitebox is great for remote installs. > > It's a little finicky to set up, but one you have, you can script the > install so you can have a box set up within half an hour, and that's > not time you have to do anything in. Switch on, select the install > option, walk away. i'd appreciate further pointers here. i don't want kickstart. i just want vnc control, with no need for intervention at a machine far away. iiuc that means i need to do a hard disk install via vnc. i don't see that anaconda can do that. if i'm wrong, or if another installer can do this, i'd love to know. -g -- gregory whitley mott it coordinator nonviolentpeaceforce.org _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users **************************************************************************** This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, recorded and retained by BiP Solutions Ltd. E-mail monitoring/ blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at any time.You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents. **************************************************************************** From jafar00@wanadoo.fr Wed Jul 28 16:48:36 2004 From: jafar00@wanadoo.fr (jafar) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:48:36 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] html email in whitebox list Message-ID: <1091029716.9320.5.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> What email app are people using here? I don't know about the rest, but I have my whitebox list messages delivered as a digetst and get a lot of the following..

2) resolv.conf on the Linux server has the = following=20 lines in it referring to the Win2K domain and the DNS server's IP=20 address:

search=20 adminsvr.headoffice

And so on..... Would it be rude to ask that people post what are essentially text messages in plain text on this list? It's just that there is a lot of it, and it makes it very difficult to read and I might miss the opportunity to answer someone's question and contribute a little to the list by sharing knowledge. Don't take this as a flame or anything. It's just an observation and a little suggestion. :) -- Jafar Calley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ !tv D+ G e* h---- x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Registered Linux User #359623 http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org From nick-tech@terraworld.net Wed Jul 28 18:22:46 2004 From: nick-tech@terraworld.net (Nick Bright) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:22:46 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Red Hat GFS In-Reply-To: <1089118294.19333.150.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <40E02A38.80602@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <40E9C74F.7050407@tricity.wsu.edu> <40E9DB74.9070604@raimokoski.com> <1089072657.5974.2.camel@Myth.home.local> <1089118294.19333.150.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <1091035366.3258.12.camel@neptune.terranet.net> Hi, I downloaded and installed your GFS packages on my WBEL system w/ 2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp kernel. I installed the following packages: GFS-6.0.0-1.2.i686.rpm GFS-devel-6.0.0-1.2.i686.rpm GFS-modules-6.0.0-1.2.i686.rpm rh-gfs-en-6.0-4.noarch.rpm perl-Net-Telnet-3.03-2.noarch.rpm I used the i686 versions since I am on P4 Xeon arch. I was able to successfully create a GFS filesystem on my SAN (via qlogicfc module) but when I try to mount with this command: mount -t gfs /dev/sdc /mnt/san I recieve an error: mount: fs type gfs not supported by kernel Is there something else I need to do/install? Or did I do something wrong? I did reboot after installing the RPM's in case there was some kind of init daemon that had to start (there is a "gfs" script in /etc/init.d). Also, would having installed the GFS-devel RPM cause a problem? I wouldn't think so. I installed it in case there was some kind of dependancy somewhere to satisfy. Thanks in advance for any advice or help. -- - Nick Bright Terraworld, Inc http://home.terraworld.net | 888-332-1616 On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 07:51, Johnny Hughes wrote: > I have completed building this for WBEL. You can download files here: > > GFS Downloads > > See the RedHat Documentation on GFS for how to install. > > The RPM files I have provided will only install on the > 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL kernel. > > The src.rpm file will build on either the WBEL (or RHEL) 2.4.21-15.EL, > 2.4.21-15.0.2.EL, or 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL (or any other clone where the > kernel name is exactly the same). It will _not_ build on TaoLinux or > CentOS because the Kernel names have been modified. I will make > TaoLinux and CentOS source RPMs later today. > > If you are downloading rpms for install ... you need a GFS and > GFS-modules for your kernel type (normal, smp, hugemem) and your arch > (i386, i686, athlon). > > Johnny Hughes > HughesJR.com > > On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 19:10, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 17:51, Raimo Koski wrote: > > > Ed wrote: > > > > Erik Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> I saw in slashdot yesterday that Red Hat is releasing GFS > > > >> (http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/) to the masses. I was about > > > >> to roll out 3 WBEL File servers here, but in light of this, I'm > > > >> wondering of the chances that this would work with Whitebox - has > > > >> anyone tried, or is anyone planning on trying? > > > > > > > > > > > > White box uses the RHEL kernel. It is unlikely that RH will backport > > > > GFS to their stable 3.0. If you want to compile your own kernel, it > > > > might work but the WBEL kernel is heavily patched and some of the > > > > patches are needed by userland (there would be more work involved than > > > > just patching a "vanilla" 2.4 or 2.6 kernel). So maybe FC2 would be a > > > > better option if you want to play with GFS. > > > > > > RHGFS binaries ($2200) require RHEL 3.0 and 2.4.21-15.EL kernel. Red Hat > > > doesn't support GFS on Fedora. Lineox has built GFS binaries for > > > 2.4.21-15.0.2.EL and 2.4.21-15.0.3.EL kernels. > > > > For anyone interested in building / trying GFS, you can get the > > SRPMS from here: > > > > ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/3/en/RHGFS/i386/SRPMS/ > > > > I am looking at it right now, and trying to build the SRPMS ... I'll > > post how it goes later. (I'm sure it's also on the redhat mirrors) From whitebox@greatlakedata.com Wed Jul 28 19:27:17 2004 From: whitebox@greatlakedata.com (gregwm) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:27:17 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1091039232.4723.62358.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 10:26, Steve Anderson wrote: > Does the server have a keyboard and monitor attached? when necessary i can ask someone to attach then > Does it have a CD drive? yes, and knoppix3.4 is inserted and runing. i don't want to have to ask anybody to insert any other CDs. -g From nick-tech@terraworld.net Wed Jul 28 19:53:40 2004 From: nick-tech@terraworld.net (Nick Bright) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:53:40 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Red Hat GFS In-Reply-To: <4107EB2D.6020506@globaltecsa.com> References: <40E02A38.80602@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <40E9C74F.7050407@tricity.wsu.edu> <40E9DB74.9070604@raimokoski.com> <1089072657.5974.2.camel@Myth.home.local> <1089118294.19333.150.camel@Myth.home.local> <1091035366.3258.12.camel@neptune.terranet.net> <4107EB2D.6020506@globaltecsa.com> Message-ID: <1091040820.3258.19.camel@neptune.terranet.net> On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 13:06, Raul pitti wrote: > Nick Bright wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I downloaded and installed your GFS packages on my WBEL system w/ > > 2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp kernel. I installed the following packages: > > > > GFS-6.0.0-1.2.i686.rpm > > GFS-devel-6.0.0-1.2.i686.rpm > > GFS-modules-6.0.0-1.2.i686.rpm > > rh-gfs-en-6.0-4.noarch.rpm > > perl-Net-Telnet-3.03-2.noarch.rpm > > > > I used the i686 versions since I am on P4 Xeon arch. > > > > I was able to successfully create a GFS filesystem on my SAN (via > > qlogicfc module) but when I try to mount with this command: > > > > mount -t gfs /dev/sdc /mnt/san > > > > I recieve an error: > > > > mount: fs type gfs not supported by kernel > > > > Is there something else I need to do/install? Or did I do something > > wrong? I did reboot after installing the RPM's in case there was some > > kind of init daemon that had to start (there is a "gfs" script in > > /etc/init.d). Also, would having installed the GFS-devel RPM cause a > > problem? I wouldn't think so. I installed it in case there was some kind > > of dependancy somewhere to satisfy. > > > > Thanks in advance for any advice or help. > > > have you try to run > modprobe > for the filesystem module needed for gfs? > I do not know the name of the module, maybe a search on what was > installed by GFS-modules-6.0.0.0-1.2.i686.rpm may provide you with the > module name. > > REgards! > RP On your suggestion, I modprobed "gfs" and it installed a module, but I'm receiving this error (which I've been getting for awhile, since right after I sent the mail above): mount -t gfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt/san -o hostdata=mycluster:mygfs mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, or too many mounted file systems I created the GFS filesystem as such: gfs_mkfs -t mycluster:mygfs -j 2 /dev/sdc1 As directed by the example in the man page for gfs_mkfs. -- - Nick Bright Terraworld, Inc http://home.terraworld.net | 888-332-1616 From Greg.King@lmit.com Wed Jul 28 21:17:47 2004 From: Greg.King@lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:17:47 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RPM Update errors Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BE0DC@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I am manually updating packages and get the following results (see below). I dont think it is WBEL related but google searching turned up nothing. The only thing I do know is that this is related to an rpm install of mondo and mindi. Anyone help? Thanks, Greg rpm -Uvh krb5-libs-1.2.7-24.i386.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:krb5-libs ########################################### [100%] /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-newt-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link [gking@lmit-dns1-hou ~gking]# rpm -Uvh libpng-1.2.2-24.i386.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:libpng ########################################### [100%] /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-newt-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link From roger@ehtsc.co.cu Wed Jul 28 21:29:28 2004 From: roger@ehtsc.co.cu (Roger D. Vargas) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:29:28 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] kernel 2.6 and ext3 improvements Message-ID: <1091046568.8303.1.camel@prospero.ehtsc.co.cu> I installed Fedora Core 2 with kernel 2.6. I copied all my home folders to a new ext3 partition. I read that kernel 2.6 implements some changes to ext3. The question is, if i install Whitebox now, kernel 2.4 will be able to read the partition? -- Roger Durañona Vargas Linux user #180787 A cada momento nos rodea lo desconocido. Es alli donde uno tiene que buscar el conocimiento. Paul Muad'Dib Atreides. Children of Dune From kbohling@birddog.com Wed Jul 28 21:38:33 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:38:33 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RPM Update errors In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BE0DC@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BE0DC@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: <20040728203829.GE6586@hawk.birddog.com> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 03:17:47PM -0500, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > I am manually updating packages and get the following results (see below). I > dont think it is WBEL related but google searching turned up nothing. The > only thing I do know is that this is related to an rpm install of mondo and > mindi. This is a non-issue in my experience. I see this error all the time when I run ldconfig (I see this weekly during our custom software installation). Go find all the binaries, if you run ldd /path/to/binary, search for the library "libmondo-2.0x_cvs". If there is a full path next to it, your fine. Essentially, if I understand it correctly, ldconfig wants to create softlinks for the libraries so that you can have lots and lots of versions of the same library installed. The softlink always points to the most current version of the library. By default you link against the softlink. Thus when you upgrade your library and the softlink gets updated, all of the software that use the library also gets the fixes. If you go look in /usr/lib, and /lib, you'll see what I'm talking about. Your libraries are linking against the softlink, not the real file. That way, your software will always use the newest version of the library possible. This is all tied in with library versioning, binary compability, "sonames", and the dynamic linker. In my experience, it all works. You can only really get into trouble if you have to link against a specific version of a library. I wouldn't worry about that in this case. If you need to do that, you'll have to know more then I do right off hand. I'd blow it off. The guy who packaged your software didn't account for this. GNU's cgicc has the same issues the way I install it. Kirby > > Anyone help? > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > > rpm -Uvh krb5-libs-1.2.7-24.i386.rpm > Preparing... ########################################### > [100%] > 1:krb5-libs ########################################### > [100%] > /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link > > /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-newt-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link > > [gking@lmit-dns1-hou ~gking]# rpm -Uvh libpng-1.2.2-24.i386.rpm > Preparing... ########################################### > [100%] > 1:libpng ########################################### > [100%] > /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link > > /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libmondo-newt-2.0x_cvs is not a symbolic link > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From mtbiker@advantexmail.net Wed Jul 28 21:41:34 2004 From: mtbiker@advantexmail.net (mtbiker@advantexmail.net) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:41:34 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Linux Newbie- Looking for good newbie Linux Sites Message-ID: <200407282041.i6SKfYQR006835@advmail.lsn.net> Hello, I'm new to the wonderful world of linux and an looking for some good, starting from scratch type linux web sites. I've found a few out there, but would like to see if theres some more out there you ol' pro's may recommend? I would be really interested in going thru some tutorials if you know of any. Also, in your opinion whats the most important subject I should start learning, or where should I start so to speak? Thanks in advance! Mark From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Wed Jul 28 22:32:08 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:32:08 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] remote install? switch to debian? In-Reply-To: <1091027446.4723.61775.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> References: <1091027446.4723.61775.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> Message-ID: <41081B58.6000107@dynacomp.net> I've never done anything like this, but I know there is hard drive installation method for RHEL http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/x8664-multi-install-guide/s1-steps-hd-install.html http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/x8664-multi-install-guide/s1-begininstall-hd.html I don't think the hard drive installation supports VNC though, you might have to write kickstart script to do the install for you. gregwm wrote: >On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 08:51, Steve Anderson wrote: > > >>If your boxes can handle PXE, then whitebox is great for remote installs. >> >>It's a little finicky to set up, but one you have, you can script the >>install so you can have a box set up within half an hour, and that's not >>time you have to do anything in. Switch on, select the install option, walk >>away. >> >> > >i'd appreciate further pointers here. i don't want kickstart. i just >want vnc control, with no need for intervention at a machine far away. >iiuc that means i need to do a hard disk install via vnc. i don't see >that anaconda can do that. if i'm wrong, or if another installer can do >this, i'd love to know. > >-g > > From jvalido@juancvalido.com Thu Jul 29 02:20:50 2004 From: jvalido@juancvalido.com (Juan C. Valido) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:20:50 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 Message-ID: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> Does anyone know where I can get xmms with mp3 support for white box.TIA From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Jul 29 03:33:06 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:33:06 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> References: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> Message-ID: <1091068386.13247.21.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-pmLAw6P26vhhduKMMjB4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 20:20, Juan C. Valido wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get xmms with mp3 support for white box.TIA > http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el3/en/i386/RPMS.dag/ --=-pmLAw6P26vhhduKMMjB4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 20:20, Juan C. Valido wrote:

Does anyone know where I can get xmms with mp3 support for white box.TIA

http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el3/en/i386/RPMS.dag/

--=-pmLAw6P26vhhduKMMjB4-- From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 29 03:40:51 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:40:51 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> References: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> Message-ID: <200407282140.51731.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Go to the XMMS homepage at: http://www.xmms.org Rafael. On Wednesday 28 July 2004 20:20, Juan C. Valido wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get xmms with mp3 support for white box.TIA > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 29 03:55:18 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:55:18 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Linux Newbie- Looking for good newbie Linux Sites In-Reply-To: <200407282041.i6SKfYQR006835@advmail.lsn.net> References: <200407282041.i6SKfYQR006835@advmail.lsn.net> Message-ID: <200407282155.18943.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> To get started I would suggest you follow these steps: i) Download and burn the latest Whitebox CD images. ii) Install WBEL according to the install guide that you can find here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/x8664-multi-install-guide The Red Hat installation instructions apply to WBEL. iii) The rest of the Red Hat Guides which you can find here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise also apply to WBEL. Browse the tables of contents and briefly scan each chapter to get an idea of their contents so that you know where to find further information. iv) For further information about Linux in general check: http://www.tldp.org You wil find tons of information there both for novice and expert users. Hope this helps. Rafael. On Wednesday 28 July 2004 15:41, mtbiker@advantexmail.net wrote: > Hello, > I'm new to the wonderful world of linux and an looking for some good, > starting from scratch type linux web sites. I've found a few out there, > but would like to see if theres some more out there you ol' pro's may > recommend? I would be really interested in going thru some tutorials if > you know of any. > > Also, in your opinion whats the most important subject I should start > learning, or where should I start so to speak? > > Thanks in advance! > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 29 04:00:15 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:00:15 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Linux Newbie- Looking for good newbie Linux Sites In-Reply-To: <200407282155.18943.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> References: <200407282041.i6SKfYQR006835@advmail.lsn.net> <200407282155.18943.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Message-ID: <200407282200.15313.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Oops! You have to add a trailing / to the Red Hat URIs otherwise you wil get a 404 error ( at least I am getting a 404 error because of the $#"@* missing / ). On Wednesday 28 July 2004 21:55, Rafael Baquero S. wrote: > To get started I would suggest you follow these steps: > > i) Download and burn the latest Whitebox CD images. > ii) Install WBEL according to the install guide that you can find here: > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/x8664-multi-ins >tall-guide > > The Red Hat installation instructions apply to WBEL. > > iii) The rest of the Red Hat Guides which you can find here: > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise > > also apply to WBEL. Browse the tables of contents and briefly scan each > chapter to get an idea of their contents so that you know where to find > further information. > > iv) For further information about Linux in general check: > > http://www.tldp.org > > You wil find tons of information there both for novice and expert users. > > Hope this helps. > > Rafael. > > On Wednesday 28 July 2004 15:41, mtbiker@advantexmail.net wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm new to the wonderful world of linux and an looking for some good, > > starting from scratch type linux web sites. I've found a few out there, > > but would like to see if theres some more out there you ol' pro's may > > recommend? I would be really interested in going thru some tutorials if > > you know of any. > > > > Also, in your opinion whats the most important subject I should start > > learning, or where should I start so to speak? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From erichancock@yahoo.com Thu Jul 29 04:01:51 2004 From: erichancock@yahoo.com (Eric Hancock) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] iptables port 50 and 51 Message-ID: <20040729030151.16284.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, I just installed whitebox a few days ago, and I'd like to get it running as a nat/router for my network. Here's my question, when looking at /etc/sysconfig/iptables it lists: -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT Why are these ports open by default and what will I lose if I killed those rules? Eric ===== -------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Hancock ========alt. emails======== hancock@freenet.tlh.fl.us fefe@syrup-pirates.com kg4cjv@comcast.net erichancock@yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com From michael@fishnet.us Thu Jul 29 04:16:44 2004 From: michael@fishnet.us (Michael Brennen) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:16:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] iptables port 50 and 51 In-Reply-To: <20040729030151.16284.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040729030151.16284.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Those are rules for protocols 50 and 51. VPN appliances are the only time I have ever seen those protocols used. If you won't be implementing a VPN I suspect you should be able to remove those without harm. -- Michael On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Eric Hancock wrote: > -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT > -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT > Why are these ports open by default and what will I > lose if I killed those rules? From alantrulock@yahoo.com Thu Jul 29 04:42:35 2004 From: alantrulock@yahoo.com (Alan Trulock) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Linux Newbie- Looking for good newbie Linux Sites In-Reply-To: <200407282041.i6SKfYQR006835@advmail.lsn.net> Message-ID: <20040729034235.88190.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs/ --Alan --- mtbiker@advantexmail.net wrote: > Hello, > I'm new to the wonderful world of linux and an > looking for some good, starting from scratch type > linux web sites. I've found a few out there, but > would like to see if theres some more out there you > ol' pro's may recommend? I would be really > interested in going thru some tutorials if you know > of any. > > Also, in your opinion whats the most important > subject I should start learning, or where should I > start so to speak? > > Thanks in advance! > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 29 06:18:20 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:18:20 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> References: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> Message-ID: <4108889C.1080508@ifm-services.com> >xmms with mp3 support > > http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads.html I use the RH9 RPMs. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From gamito@netual.pt Thu Jul 29 08:15:17 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (Mario Gamito) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:15:17 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> References: <1091064050.4227.1.camel@wbel.juancvalido.com> Message-ID: <1091085311.13546.1.camel@zooropa> Hi, Don't install (or uninstall) the xmms that comes with WBHL. Retrieve the source from www.xmms.org and then: # ./configure && make && make install Regards, M�rio Gamito On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 02:20, Juan C. Valido wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get xmms with mp3 support for white box.TIA > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Jul 29 08:29:29 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 02:29:29 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] iptables port 50 and 51 In-Reply-To: References: <20040729030151.16284.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1091086169.13249.38.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-N7ke0U0+YcPSVG2gsOdc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 22:16, Michael Brennen wrote: > Those are rules for protocols 50 and 51. VPN appliances are the > only time I have ever seen those protocols used. If you won't be > implementing a VPN I suspect you should be able to remove those > without harm. > I also only know of these being required for VPN.... I did some research on the web and it looks like port 50 is for ESP encryption / authentication ( http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/esp.htm ) ... port 51 is for AH ( http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/ah.htm ). Both are integral to IPSec. I don't know why they are open in the default rules...and don't have them open on my firewall script. > > > -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT > > -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT > > Why are these ports open by default and what will I > > lose if I killed those rules? Take a look here for a very good firewall script: RC.FIREWALL-2.4.X-STRONGER Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-N7ke0U0+YcPSVG2gsOdc Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 22:16, Michael Brennen wrote:

Those are rules for protocols 50 and 51.  VPN appliances are the
only time I have ever seen those protocols used.  If you won't be
implementing a VPN I suspect you should be able to remove those
without harm.

I also only know of these being required for VPN....

I did some research on the web and it looks like port 50 is for ESP encryption / authentication ( http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/esp.htm ) ... port 51 is for AH ( http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/ah.htm ). Both are integral to IPSec. I don't know why they are open in the default rules...and don't have them open on my firewall script.


> -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT
> -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT
> Why are these ports open by default and what will I
> lose if I killed those rules?

Take a look here for a very good firewall script:

RC.FIREWALL-2.4.X-STRONGER




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-N7ke0U0+YcPSVG2gsOdc-- From kgmorse@mpcu.com Thu Jul 29 08:29:39 2004 From: kgmorse@mpcu.com (Keith Morse) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: html email in whitebox list In-Reply-To: <1091029716.9320.5.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, jafar wrote: > What email app are people using here? Pine, which probably makes me an immoral, moronic, and quite possibly illegitimate in the eyes of a Debian purist/fanatic. Been using it so long that the brain no longer need to think about keystrokes, they just happen. > I don't know about the rest, but I have my whitebox list messages > delivered as a digetst and get a lot of the following.. > >

class=3D193204109-28072004> face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>2) resolv.conf on the Linux server has the > = > following=20 > lines in it referring to the Win2K domain and the DNS server's IP=20 > address:

> And so on..... > Would it be rude to ask that people post what are essentially text > messages in plain text on this list? Not in my book. Email should be plain text and 7 bit ASCII at that. I've noticed on most Linux based lists that the majority of list members do use "text only" mail readers. Notable exceptions are people making their first forays in the Linux and are using (shudder) Outlook or Outlook Express or unfortunate persons that have no alternative but to use Web based email readers. > It's just that there is a lot of it, and it makes it very difficult to > read and I might miss the opportunity to answer someone's question and > contribute a little to the list by sharing knowledge. > Don't take this as a flame or anything. It's just an observation and a > little suggestion. :) I concur with your opinion. It is rather refreshing not to see a proliferation of rabid foaming-at-the-mouth comments about HTML based email. As whitebox Linux becomes more popular, and by extension, more people sign up on this list, this too will probably change. Oh, and by the way. To the boys and girls at beau.org I'd like to send my kudos for the bang-up work that is what Whitebox Enterprise Linux. Hell of a job, guys and gals, hell of a job. As the Engineering Officer on the submarine I used to be stationed on used to say, "Bravo Zulu". From jafar00@wanadoo.fr Thu Jul 29 08:54:28 2004 From: jafar00@wanadoo.fr (jafar) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:54:28 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] re:iptables port 50 and 51 Message-ID: <1091087667.24262.16.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> I've found http://isc.sans.org/ to be an excellent page for looking up what certain ports are and if there are any potential exploits on them. Use the little box on the left hand side, type the port number and press the details button. Once you find out which service is attached to which port, you can then Google for more detailed info as you require it :) Port 50 is Remote Mail Checking Protocol Killing this may stop you checking if you have new mail on your provider's POP server. Port 51 is IMP Logical Address Maintenance I don't really know what that does sorry. I hope someone else can enlighten us ;) -- Jafar Calley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ !tv D+ G e* h---- x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Registered Linux User #359623 http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org From gamito@netual.pt Thu Jul 29 11:43:22 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (Mario Gamito) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:43:22 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] Characters in Samba Message-ID: <1091097794.15913.0.camel@zooropa> Hi, I have this Samba server. I'm from Portugal, so my users give names to their files containig characters like �, � , �, etc. >From the Windows point of view, everything is ok, but in the Linux filesystem, those characters became a real mess. The problem is that i need to record CDs directly on the server, and i have a good deal of file and directory names all messed up. I've already tried using "unix charset = CP860" (860 is the portuguese codepage) in smb.conf, but no good. I've read the documentation, but got to no conclusion. In short, i'd like to when a user saves a file, let's say "ol�.txt" in a Samba share, the file in the Linux filesystem is also called "ol�.txt" and not "ol_?.txt" or something messy alike. A last info: [root@dori home]# echo $LANG en_US.ISO-8859-1 [root@dori home]# Any help would be appreciated. Warm Regards, M�rio Gamito From erichancock@yahoo.com Thu Jul 29 12:07:14 2004 From: erichancock@yahoo.com (Eric Hancock) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] re:iptables port 50 and 51 In-Reply-To: <1091087667.24262.16.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> Message-ID: <20040729110714.85830.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> I did not know that pop mail required an open port on the client machine. I have these blocked on my current setup, so I don't think it will hurt to continue to block them. Eric --- jafar wrote: > I've found http://isc.sans.org/ to be an excellent > page for looking up > what certain ports are and if there are any > potential exploits on them. > Use the little box on the left hand side, type the > port number and press > the details button. Once you find out which service > is attached to which > port, you can then Google for more detailed info as > you require it :) > > Port 50 is Remote Mail Checking Protocol > Killing this may stop you checking if you have new > mail on your > provider's POP server. > > Port 51 is IMP Logical Address Maintenance > I don't really know what that does sorry. > I hope someone else can enlighten us ;) > > -- > Jafar Calley > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ > !tv D+ G e* h---- x? > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > Registered Linux User #359623 > http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > ===== -------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Hancock ========alt. emails======== hancock@freenet.tlh.fl.us fefe@syrup-pirates.com kg4cjv@comcast.net erichancock@yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Jul 29 12:29:39 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:29:39 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] re:iptables port 50 and 51 In-Reply-To: <20040729110714.85830.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040729110714.85830.qmail@web52603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1091100578.13250.40.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-3YPPbNaJ0r6m5HbQU/g5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 06:07, Eric Hancock wrote: > I did not know that pop mail required an open port on > the client machine. I have these blocked on my current > setup, so I don't think it will hurt to continue to > block them. > > Eric > > Pop3 doesn't require port 50 open... > --- jafar wrote: > > > I've found http://isc.sans.org/ to be an excellent > > page for looking up > > what certain ports are and if there are any > > potential exploits on them. > > Use the little box on the left hand side, type the > > port number and press > > the details button. Once you find out which service > > is attached to which > > port, you can then Google for more detailed info as > > you require it :) > > > > Port 50 is Remote Mail Checking Protocol > > Killing this may stop you checking if you have new > > mail on your > > provider's POP server. > > > > Port 51 is IMP Logical Address Maintenance > > I don't really know what that does sorry. > > I hope someone else can enlighten us ;) > > > > -- > > Jafar Calley > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ > > !tv D+ G e* h---- x? > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > Registered Linux User #359623 > > http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > ===== > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric Hancock > > ========alt. emails======== > hancock@freenet.tlh.fl.us fefe@syrup-pirates.com > kg4cjv@comcast.net erichancock@yahoo.com > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-3YPPbNaJ0r6m5HbQU/g5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 06:07, Eric Hancock wrote:

I did not know that pop mail required an open port on
the client machine. I have these blocked on my current
setup, so I don't think it will hurt to continue to
block them.

Eric

Pop3 doesn't require port 50 open...

--- jafar <jafar00@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> I've found http://isc.sans.org/ to be an excellent
> page for looking up
> what certain ports are and if there are any
> potential exploits on them.
> Use the little box on the left hand side, type the
> port number and press
> the details button. Once you find out which service
> is attached to which
> port, you can then Google for more detailed info as
> you require it :)
> 
> Port 50 is Remote Mail Checking Protocol
> Killing this may stop you checking if you have new
> mail on your
> provider's POP server.
> 
> Port 51 is IMP Logical Address Maintenance
> I don't really know what that does sorry.
> I hope someone else can enlighten us ;)
> 
> -- 
> Jafar Calley
> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+
> !tv D+ G e* h---- x?
> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
> Registered Linux User #359623
> http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
> 

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               Eric Hancock

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--=-3YPPbNaJ0r6m5HbQU/g5-- From whitebox@greatlakedata.com Thu Jul 29 15:46:19 2004 From: whitebox@greatlakedata.com (gregwm) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:46:19 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] skip anaconda? what would i be missing? Message-ID: <1091112376.8108.66179.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> hi, what happens if i skip anaconda and try to build a system without it? i've got knoppix3.4 running from CD, from there i can partition and just pull everything in with yum. but will it run when i'm done? i'll bet there's a list of tweaks done by anaconda. i'll bet the distro relies on those tweaks. is there anywhere a neat list of whatever anaconda does to the filesystem other than install the RPMs? tia, greg -- gregory whitley mott it coordinator nonviolentpeaceforce.org From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 15:52:11 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:52:11 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Odd window drag behaviour In-Reply-To: References: <1089751595.27086.63.camel@hermitage.ingrian.com> Message-ID: John Morris wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Alex Tkachenko wrote: > > >>It has a patch for RHEL version of metacity package - I have it >>locally applied until it gets its way into the official update. > > > Ok, this one bugs me enough I'm wondering if it justifies pushing up a > patched version of metacity instead of waiting for RedHat to get around to > it in U3. I know I'll be adding this patch to my own copies, but should > it go into the mainline? It would mark a departure from tracking RH > exactly and that worries me. > Let me belatedly say I think that's a bad idea. Keep it compatible. I'm running a hotfix kernel on my machines to get around a hard hang using mmap and threads, but I'd hate to see it distributed. The fix will be in the next RH push, if you are seeing this upgrade asap. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 15:57:55 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:57:55 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Squid Online monitoring In-Reply-To: References: <001701c45f78$1b6a92e0$a60f800a@it> Message-ID: Jes�s Garc�a Gonz�lez wrote: > Hello again, > > You see, I'm using both webalizer and sarg. They work great. But they do not > show an immediate (online) status of what is going on "NOW". Suppose, I look > at the MRTG and the internet channel is fully being used, I'd like to know > if the means exist to determine who is drowning my channel and what her/his > purpose is (downloading important stuff or just porno clips) The alternative is to use one of the QOL methods to limit the bandwidth, or lower priority of some things. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 16:01:33 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:01:33 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Monitor users In-Reply-To: <1953762672.20040701094102@911networks.com> References: <1953762672.20040701094102@911networks.com> Message-ID: whitebox@911networks.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have a WBox acting as firewall. I'd like to track the outgoing > traffic [web and others] with the IP address source [192.168.x.x] > and the destination IP/port. Why not just use iptables to generate a log entry when the socket is opened (SYN) and closed (FIN/RST)? Or every packet if you really want to have that level of info? > > I have have been using tcpdump for this, but I can't get it > working from the a cron job. > > 1 0 * * * /usr/sbin/tcpdump -a -p -i eth0 tcp and dst port 80 > /log/port80_`date '+%F-%A'`.tcpdump > 57 23 * * * /bin/ps auxw | grep nscd | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill > 58 23 * * * /bin/cp /log/port80_`date '+%F-%A'`.tcpdump /log/backup/ > 59 23 * * * /bin/tar -czf /log/backup/p80_`date '+%F-%A'`.tar /log/backup/port80_`date '+%F-%A'`.tcpdump > > > Any suggestion would be appreciated > -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From jafar00@wanadoo.fr Thu Jul 29 16:34:41 2004 From: jafar00@wanadoo.fr (jafar) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:34:41 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Port 50 Message-ID: <1091115279.32442.36.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> Thanks to all those who put me right. It takes a while to learn about all those ports ;) -- Jafar Calley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- d+ s-:+ a C++++ L++ E--- W++ N++ w-- PE- t* 5++ R+ !tv D+ G e* h---- x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Registered Linux User #359623 http://fatcatftp.homelinux.org From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 16:39:57 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:39:57 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] iowaits In-Reply-To: <40E870C1.6070402@ew3d.com> References: <40E870C1.6070402@ew3d.com> Message-ID: John Hinton wrote: > I'm still running the 2,4,21-4 kernel on one of my boxes. It has a > pretty good load on it. It is dual processor and I notice the iowait is > running pretty high. I'm wondering if the stock kernel upgrade has > helped regarding this issue? No, 2.6 will sometimes help a little. The issue is that you now can see the waitio instead of having it folded into idle as earlier 2.4 kernels did. So you don't really have more, you just see it better. If your disk i/o and net i/o are reasonable, and you're not swapping you butt off, the culprit is moving data in and out of o/s buffers, moving to high i/o, etc. If you control the application you can look at what's needed to use O_DIRECT on file i/o, on my app it brought the high load values down from 25-35% to 8-9%, and I hope to try using sendfile() to get rid of some more. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 16:59:55 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:59:55 -0400 Subject: FW: [WBEL-users] Hello, and possible LAN/NIC issue? In-Reply-To: <000501c46464$258f44f0$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> References: <000501c46464$258f44f0$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> Message-ID: Nigel Kendrick wrote: > Remember me with eGroupware / slow Web page serving!? > > One of my suspicions, backed up by a few posts, is a DNS issue and I > think this is now even more likely - I've opened the site to the outside > world and from home via broadband everything appears very fast - as > expected no less! > > It occurs to me that in-house name resolution is performed by a > pain-in-the-a** Windows 2000 box running ISA server which needs to be > there to keep the suppliers of a bespoke app happy (ie: if we remove ISA > server from the equation we lose support on the app running on the > server even though the supplier's reasons for justifying the ISA server > running in the first place are a bit lame - I think it was just part of > the default install for the server and they're too lazy to turn it off!). > > I've actually had so much hassle with the ISA server that I've moved the > Linux system and my desktop PC to the 'North' of the ISA server firewall > as we still have a firewall in the broadband router, and it's a NAT > router anyway. I also couldn't see the point of having all incoming > traffic for the Linux box passing through the Win2K server too. > > Anyway, I digress... > > My question of the moment is regarding the ISA server's DNS service - > any tips on making it more friendly to clients - I seem to recall that > there can be issues if the client requesting a lookup is not actually a > Windows desktop system authenticated to the server and/or its domain. > > I'll have a read up via Google but any short cuts to a solution would be > appreciated. So why can't you run another bind on WBEL and use that, and just leave the old one running and used only where requiored by support issues? -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 29 16:59:11 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:59:11 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: html email in whitebox list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41091ECF.5050103@ifm-services.com> >>What email app are people using here? >> >> >Pine, > I used to use elm until (1) it was no longer included in the default install and (2) spam really started to heat up. Using Mozilla 1.7, which does what I need it to do. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 17:05:07 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:05:07 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.8p1 wants older openssl In-Reply-To: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> References: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> Message-ID: Christian Reeves wrote: > Anyone have any luck installing OpenSSH_3.8p1? I have it running on many > RedHat 8.0 servers but this is the first WBEL box I've tried to upgrade it > on. The way WBEL works is that Redhat backports the security fix to RHEL so you don't have to upgrade to a new version, the fix is in the new point release to the old version. If you want to do your own updates you probably should use FC1 or FC2. OT: why go to FC2? Is there some big advantage I'm missing? I have FC1 and FC2 running, other than FC1 being more stable, I see no big reason to change. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From Greg.King@lmit.com Thu Jul 29 17:21:35 2004 From: Greg.King@lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:21:35 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: html email in whitebox list Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BE0DF@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> > Not in my book. Email should be plain text and 7 bit ASCII > at that. I've > noticed on most Linux based lists that the majority of list > members do use > "text only" mail readers. Notable exceptions are people making their > first forays in the Linux and are using (shudder) Outlook or Outlook > Express or unfortunate persons that have no alternative but > to use Web > based email readers. Thanks for the heads up. As much as I like linux/freebsd, at work I am stuck with a standard windows load for most stuff, I have a linux workstation as well but I am not allowed to connect it to the exchange infrastructure. Recently the workstation loads got updated and I didn't think to go into outlook and set it back to text only. Your comment made me go back and check that setting. -Greg From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 17:35:16 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:35:16 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Rate Limiting In-Reply-To: <1089387159.2298.12.camel@zooropa.netual.pt> References: <40EEB798.4090007@nerdshack.com><40EEB798.4090007@nerdshack.com> <1089387159.2298.12.camel@zooropa.netual.pt> Message-ID: Mario Gamito wrote: > Hi, > > Exactly the same problem here too. > A mail server with about a month, and just 1 hour ago the server reached > the point of not responding at all. Even on the console. > I have to cold reboot it. > The statistics shows nothing special at that time. > > What do you have ? > I have qmail/vpopmail/spamassassin/qmail-scanner > > Warm Regards, > M�rio Gamito > > On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 16:19, Shackmaster wrote: > >>Looking for suggestions here... >> >>I have a mail server setup, that has been running on WBEL rock steady >>for about a month now. The problem is that as use has grown, it has >>begun to periodically spike and fill the T1 pipe that it sits on. We >>plan to move the server onto an OC3 Sept 1st, but would like to rate >>limit the traffic in the meantime. >> >>Does anyone have a suggestion? Ideally I would like to rate limit SMTP >>(ports 25 & 3535) seperately from POP (110 & 995). If the system is locking up, I think you have another problem. Even a modest box should be able to handle all you can push into it on a T1 (or 100 Mbit, for that matter) without locking. Sendmail will drop into "queue only" mode based on load average. If you have diddled the config to up the limits on load, behaviour, or number of connections, or gone to a non-default mail setup, then the assumption is that you know what you're doing. We run about 2M messages/day/blade, about 5Mbit average or so over a day. Blades are little 2xXeon 1.4G. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 29 17:39:49 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:39:49 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format Message-ID: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Hi Everyone, Seems as though I am on a role here. I was trying to setup WBEL on a workstation that already had Win XP and Fedora Core 1 on it. I was actually trying to replace the FC1 installation. When I got to the Disk Partitioning screen during setup, I told it to delete and format any linux partitions. It appeared to start ok then acted a little weird. Unfortunately I have been fighting with this long enough that I can't give exact details as to what happened. Now it will not format or initialize the drive. At boot up (with WBEL or FC1 setup disks), when it tries to read hda it states that there are I/O errors in sectors 0, 2, 6 and 8. Now when I get to the partitioning screen I get these errors: 1. The partition table on hda was unreadable and asks me if I want to initialize the drive and loose all data on the drive. I tell it yes and then I'll get this error 2. Input/Output error on /dev/hda retry , ignore, cancel. The same error occurs if I tell it to retry or if I tell it to ignore, this error will come up 3. An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to create a file system I have tried to boot to a knoppix cd, it will not boot into knoppix and will give me this error 1. ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk Read failed I also tried to use Partition Magic 5. It will not boot into the working screen and will give me a partition error message Also used Partition Magic 4. I can get to the working screen and create partitions but this will not change the previous error messages when trying to setup WBEL or FC1 I used fdisk to delete all partitions and create new ones but still the same results and this includes fdisk /mbr. Help! .......please!!! :-) Ed From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 17:37:39 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:37:39 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Re:Whitebox-users digest, Vol 1 #305 - 14 msgs In-Reply-To: <20040710203357.350119CC08D@mail.nerdshack.com> References: <20040710203357.350119CC08D@mail.nerdshack.com> Message-ID: Shackmaster wrote: > William -- > > Unfortunately these limits only work on the number of simultaneous > connections, not on the bandwidth used. > > Unfortunately when Y! (or similar) gets it in their head that they want to > pipeline their e-mail to our server, they fill our pipe, and render it > useless to everyone else. > > What I need is a way to limit every TCP connect to only 10k a second, or > something to that affect. > > Failing that, an overall bandwidth cap at the OS level would work. > > Failing that, we will buy a switch/router that supports rate limiting. > > I thought maybe someone on this list would know of a WBEL solution which > allows granular bandwidth control. There are dozens of QOS packages, each with multiple options. You don't limit the incoming rate directly, you limit the outgoing ack rate, drop window size, etc. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 29 17:43:26 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:43:26 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] RE: Corrupted WBEL Format Message-ID: <000b01c4758b$2b61a520$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> One important piece of information I forgot...Winblows will install and run normally..... Ed -----Original Message----- From: Ed Morrison [mailto:emorrison@ncen.org] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:40 AM To: 'whitebox-users@beau.org' Subject: Corrupted WBEL Format Hi Everyone, Seems as though I am on a role here. I was trying to setup WBEL on a workstation that already had Win XP and Fedora Core 1 on it. I was actually trying to replace the FC1 installation. When I got to the Disk Partitioning screen during setup, I told it to delete and format any linux partitions. It appeared to start ok then acted a little weird. Unfortunately I have been fighting with this long enough that I can't give exact details as to what happened. Now it will not format or initialize the drive. At boot up (with WBEL or FC1 setup disks), when it tries to read hda it states that there are I/O errors in sectors 0, 2, 6 and 8. Now when I get to the partitioning screen I get these errors: 1. The partition table on hda was unreadable and asks me if I want to initialize the drive and loose all data on the drive. I tell it yes and then I'll get this error 2. Input/Output error on /dev/hda retry , ignore, cancel. The same error occurs if I tell it to retry or if I tell it to ignore, this error will come up 3. An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to create a file system I have tried to boot to a knoppix cd, it will not boot into knoppix and will give me this error 1. ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk Read failed I also tried to use Partition Magic 5. It will not boot into the working screen and will give me a partition error message Also used Partition Magic 4. I can get to the working screen and create partitions but this will not change the previous error messages when trying to setup WBEL or FC1 I used fdisk to delete all partitions and create new ones but still the same results and this includes fdisk /mbr. Help! .......please!!! :-) Ed From jaire@preciant.com Thu Jul 29 18:01:28 2004 From: jaire@preciant.com (Jeremy Bowers) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:01:28 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <41092D68.4060804@preciant.com> If it's an IDE drive you can grab GWscan from here: http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/search.asp?param=gwscan&st=kw You have extract in from Windows, but once you boot from it, it'll give an option to write zeros to your drive. Writing zeros should clean up any messy partitions ( and anything else on the drive) and will also let you know if your hard drive is on the verge of dying, (which it may be, according to the symptoms. It's also able to fix some hard drive errors. --Jeremy Ed Morrison wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Seems as though I am on a role here. I was trying to setup WBEL on a >workstation that already had Win XP and Fedora Core 1 on it. I was >actually trying to replace the FC1 installation. When I got to the Disk >Partitioning screen during setup, I told it to delete and format any >linux partitions. It appeared to start ok then acted a little weird. >Unfortunately I have been fighting with this long enough that I can't >give exact details as to what happened. Now it will not format or >initialize the drive. At boot up (with WBEL or FC1 setup disks), when it >tries to read hda it states that there are I/O errors in sectors 0, 2, 6 >and 8. Now when I get to the partitioning screen I get these errors: > >1. The partition table on hda was unreadable and asks me if I want to >initialize the drive and loose all data on the drive. I tell it yes and >then I'll get this error > >2. Input/Output error on /dev/hda retry , ignore, cancel. The same >error occurs if I tell it to retry or if I tell it to ignore, this error >will come up > >3. An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to >create a file system > >I have tried to boot to a knoppix cd, it will not boot into knoppix and >will give me this error > >1. ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk Read failed > >I also tried to use Partition Magic 5. It will not boot into the >working screen and will give me a partition error message > >Also used Partition Magic 4. I can get to the working screen and create >partitions but this will not change the previous error messages when >trying to setup WBEL or FC1 > >I used fdisk to delete all partitions and create new ones but still the >same results and this includes fdisk /mbr. > > >Help! .......please!!! :-) > >Ed > >_______________________________________________ >Whitebox-users mailing list >Whitebox-users@beau.org >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 29 18:20:05 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:20:05 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.8p1 wants older openssl In-Reply-To: References: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <410931C5.8010306@ifm-services.com> > OT: why go to FC2? Other than more blood on the floor? :-) The one thing I did like about FC2 was the performance of the 2.6 kernel. It was *so* refreshing to have great overall responsiveness even when hammering the filesystem. I miss that. Yes, many of the 2.6 features were backported to the RHEL 2.4 kernel, but performance isn't near what I was seeing with 2.6 under heavy disk load conditions (my usual mode of working), even with the "sysctl -w vm.inactive_clean_percent=100" improvement. Still, compared to a stock 2.4 kernel the RHEL 2.4 kernel is a big improvement. I don't want to underplay that. However, instability and lack of firewire support killed FC2's usefullness in my book. Then we found WBEL, and maintenance has been much reduced. (Thanks!) -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 29 18:43:40 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:43:40 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RE: Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <000b01c4758b$2b61a520$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000b01c4758b$2b61a520$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <200407291243.40854.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> I think your hdd could be damaged. But the funny thing is that winblows installs and runs normally. A question here. When you mention that winblows installs correctly, is this a fresh install?, i.e. do you create a partition, format, and install or do you use the computer manufacturers restore utility? If you have used a restore program and if you have a XP cd or win 2000 cd available maybe you could try a fresh winblows install. By fresh I mean manually delete any existing partitions, manually create partitions for winblows, format, etc. If you get similar error messages then it is probably a failure in the workstation's hdd. Hope this helps. Rafael. On Thursday 29 July 2004 11:43, Ed Morrison wrote: > One important piece of information I forgot...Winblows will install and > run normally..... > > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Morrison [mailto:emorrison@ncen.org] > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:40 AM > To: 'whitebox-users@beau.org' > Subject: Corrupted WBEL Format > > Hi Everyone, > > Seems as though I am on a role here. I was trying to setup WBEL on a > workstation that already had Win XP and Fedora Core 1 on it. I was > actually trying to replace the FC1 installation. When I got to the Disk > Partitioning screen during setup, I told it to delete and format any > linux partitions. It appeared to start ok then acted a little weird. > Unfortunately I have been fighting with this long enough that I can't > give exact details as to what happened. Now it will not format or > initialize the drive. At boot up (with WBEL or FC1 setup disks), when it > tries to read hda it states that there are I/O errors in sectors 0, 2, 6 > and 8. Now when I get to the partitioning screen I get these errors: > > 1. The partition table on hda was unreadable and asks me if I want to > initialize the drive and loose all data on the drive. I tell it yes and > then I'll get this error > > 2. Input/Output error on /dev/hda retry , ignore, cancel. The same > error occurs if I tell it to retry or if I tell it to ignore, this error > will come up > > 3. An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to > create a file system > > I have tried to boot to a knoppix cd, it will not boot into knoppix and > will give me this error > > 1. ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk Read failed > > I also tried to use Partition Magic 5. It will not boot into the > working screen and will give me a partition error message > > Also used Partition Magic 4. I can get to the working screen and create > partitions but this will not change the previous error messages when > trying to setup WBEL or FC1 > > I used fdisk to delete all partitions and create new ones but still the > same results and this includes fdisk /mbr. > > > Help! .......please!!! :-) > > Ed > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Thu Jul 29 18:54:24 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.8p1 wants older openssl In-Reply-To: <410931C5.8010306@ifm-services.com> References: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> <410931C5.8010306@ifm-services.com> Message-ID: <4618.12.29.16.103.1091123664.squirrel@12.29.16.103> James Knowles said: Further OT: > However, instability and lack of firewire support killed FC2's > usefullness in my book. Firewire was turned on in the first Errata kernel for FC2. -- William Hooper From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 19:03:16 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:03:16 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] PHP and Apache 2.0 In-Reply-To: <1089752938.25051.21.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> References: <40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net><40F3FD07.4070201@dynacomp.net> <1089752938.25051.21.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> Message-ID: Edward Rudd wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:17, Andy wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>When surfing through PHP docs I came across a page describing problems >>PHP is having with Apache 2.0. In summary, Apache 2.0 is threaded, PHP >>is not thread safe. The page further elaborates on the compile-time >>parameters that I'm not really familiar with. The page in question is >>found here http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.apache2.php >> > > This is FUD.. There are some issues with PHP not working nicely if you > Apache 2 is build with threading, but the default mode on linux for > apache 2 is preforking which is the same as Apache 1.3. It's not at all FUD, it's an operational limitation which requires using the old lower performance preforking mode. Obviously RH agreed that the problem is real, or they wouldn't have defaulted to the old mode of operation. PHP is not the only offender, of course, which is why the threaded model is best saved for static content only unless you are a guru. > > >>Can someone please confirm that this is indeed how httpd is compiled in >>the stock WBEL rpm? I know that in Debian there are multiple httpd >>packages to choose from, but WBEL has just one. >> > > WBEL's httpd is compiled in "prefork" mode which. (--with-mpm=prefork) > you can also download the WBEL httpd src.rpm file and look at the spec > file contained as to the compile options. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 29 19:12:06 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:12:06 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] RE: Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <200407291243.40854.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Message-ID: <000801c47597$921cf7e0$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Rafael, Yes, the winblows install was a fresh install where I had it create a partition and install in it. I can manually delete/remove partitions, add partitions, format them and install to them with winblows but not Linux. It's very curious. I am working with Jeremy's suggestion now. Ed -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Baquero S. Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:44 AM To: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] RE: Corrupted WBEL Format I think your hdd could be damaged. But the funny thing is that winblows installs and runs normally. A question here. When you mention that winblows installs correctly, is this a fresh install?, i.e. do you create a partition, format, and install or do you use the computer manufacturers restore utility? If you have used a restore program and if you have a XP cd or win 2000 cd available maybe you could try a fresh winblows install. By fresh I mean manually delete any existing partitions, manually create partitions for winblows, format, etc. If you get similar error messages then it is probably a failure in the workstation's hdd. Hope this helps. Rafael. On Thursday 29 July 2004 11:43, Ed Morrison wrote: > One important piece of information I forgot...Winblows will install and > run normally..... > > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Morrison [mailto:emorrison@ncen.org] > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:40 AM > To: 'whitebox-users@beau.org' > Subject: Corrupted WBEL Format > > Hi Everyone, > > Seems as though I am on a role here. I was trying to setup WBEL on a > workstation that already had Win XP and Fedora Core 1 on it. I was > actually trying to replace the FC1 installation. When I got to the Disk > Partitioning screen during setup, I told it to delete and format any > linux partitions. It appeared to start ok then acted a little weird. > Unfortunately I have been fighting with this long enough that I can't > give exact details as to what happened. Now it will not format or > initialize the drive. At boot up (with WBEL or FC1 setup disks), when it > tries to read hda it states that there are I/O errors in sectors 0, 2, 6 > and 8. Now when I get to the partitioning screen I get these errors: > > 1. The partition table on hda was unreadable and asks me if I want to > initialize the drive and loose all data on the drive. I tell it yes and > then I'll get this error > > 2. Input/Output error on /dev/hda retry , ignore, cancel. The same > error occurs if I tell it to retry or if I tell it to ignore, this error > will come up > > 3. An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to > create a file system > > I have tried to boot to a knoppix cd, it will not boot into knoppix and > will give me this error > > 1. ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk Read failed > > I also tried to use Partition Magic 5. It will not boot into the > working screen and will give me a partition error message > > Also used Partition Magic 4. I can get to the working screen and create > partitions but this will not change the previous error messages when > trying to setup WBEL or FC1 > > I used fdisk to delete all partitions and create new ones but still the > same results and this includes fdisk /mbr. > > > Help! .......please!!! :-) > > Ed > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 29 19:09:00 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:09:00 -0500 Subject: FW: [WBEL-users] Hello, and possible LAN/NIC issue? In-Reply-To: References: <000501c46464$258f44f0$5c02a8c0@NKLAPTOP> Message-ID: <200407291309.00132.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> On Thursday 29 July 2004 10:59, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Nigel Kendrick wrote: > > Remember me with eGroupware / slow Web page serving!? > > > > One of my suspicions, backed up by a few posts, is a DNS issue and I > > think this is now even more likely - I've opened the site to the outside > > world and from home via broadband everything appears very fast - as > > expected no less! > > > > It occurs to me that in-house name resolution is performed by a > > pain-in-the-a** Windows 2000 box running ISA server which needs to be > > there to keep the suppliers of a bespoke app happy (ie: if we remove ISA > > server from the equation we lose support on the app running on the > > server even though the supplier's reasons for justifying the ISA server > > running in the first place are a bit lame - I think it was just part of > > the default install for the server and they're too lazy to turn it off!). > > > > I've actually had so much hassle with the ISA server that I've moved the > > Linux system and my desktop PC to the 'North' of the ISA server firewall > > as we still have a firewall in the broadband router, and it's a NAT > > router anyway. I also couldn't see the point of having all incoming > > traffic for the Linux box passing through the Win2K server too. > > > > Anyway, I digress... > > > > My question of the moment is regarding the ISA server's DNS service - > > any tips on making it more friendly to clients - I seem to recall that > > there can be issues if the client requesting a lookup is not actually a > > Windows desktop system authenticated to the server and/or its domain. > > > > I'll have a read up via Google but any short cuts to a solution would be > > appreciated. > > So why can't you run another bind on WBEL and use that, and just leave > the old one running and used only where requiored by support issues? I have only used bind so I am unsure if the following suggestion will work, but I think it should. You can keep the DNS service in the winblows box as a slave DNS server and set up bind in a Linux box as a master DNS server or viceversa. This way you can configure the rest of your network to use the Linux box for name resolution and still maintain the winblows DNS for your windows app. If you configure both systems in a master-slave scheme you wil also maintain a sigle administration point. Hope this helps. Rafael. From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 29 19:11:45 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:11:45 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] html email in whitebox list In-Reply-To: <1091029716.9320.5.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> References: <1091029716.9320.5.camel@fatcat.delicats.net> Message-ID: <200407291311.45278.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> On Wednesday 28 July 2004 10:48, jafar wrote: > What email app are people using here? > I don't know about the rest, but I have my whitebox list messages > delivered as a digetst and get a lot of the following.. > >

class=3D193204109-28072004>

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> > And so on..... > Would it be rude to ask that people post what are essentially text > messages in plain text on this list? > It's just that there is a lot of it, and it makes it very difficult to > read and I might miss the opportunity to answer someone's question and > contribute a little to the list by sharing knowledge. > Don't take this as a flame or anything. It's just an observation and a > little suggestion. :) Innocent. KMail 1.5.3 :) Rafael. From javanree@vanree.net Thu Jul 29 19:31:10 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:31:10 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.8p1 wants older openssl In-Reply-To: References: <200407072335.i67NZvqZ011899@library.beau.org> Message-ID: <200407292031.10507.javanree@vanree.net> On Thursday 29 July 2004 18:05, Bill Davidsen wrote: > OT: why go to FC2? Is there some big advantage I'm missing? I have FC1 > and FC2 running, other than FC1 being more stable, I see no big reason > to change. FC2 has wider support for wireless networking, I was pretty much forced to move my laptop from WBEL to Fedora unless I wanted to recompile my kernel each time fixes were released (Prism54 chipset) -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Jul 29 19:30:31 2004 From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:30:31 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RE: Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <000801c47597$921cf7e0$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000801c47597$921cf7e0$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <200407291330.31441.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> Good luck, Ed. If you can fix this please post your solution. I am curious as to what the problem might be. Rafael. On Thursday 29 July 2004 13:12, Ed Morrison wrote: > Rafael, > > Yes, the winblows install was a fresh install where I had it create a > partition and install in it. I can manually delete/remove partitions, > add partitions, format them and install to them with winblows but not > Linux. It's very curious. I am working with Jeremy's suggestion now. > > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Baquero S. > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:44 AM > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] RE: Corrupted WBEL Format > > I think your hdd could be damaged. But the funny thing is that winblows > installs and runs normally. > > A question here. When you mention that winblows installs correctly, is > this a > fresh install?, i.e. do you create a partition, format, and install or > do you > use the computer manufacturers restore utility? If you have used a > restore > program and if you have a XP cd or win 2000 cd available maybe you could > try > a fresh winblows install. By fresh I mean manually delete any existing > partitions, manually create partitions for winblows, format, etc. If you > get > similar error messages then it is probably a failure in the > workstation's > hdd. > > Hope this helps. > > Rafael. > > On Thursday 29 July 2004 11:43, Ed Morrison wrote: > > One important piece of information I forgot...Winblows will install > > and > > > run normally..... > > > > Ed > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed Morrison [mailto:emorrison@ncen.org] > > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:40 AM > > To: 'whitebox-users@beau.org' > > Subject: Corrupted WBEL Format > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Seems as though I am on a role here. I was trying to setup WBEL on a > > workstation that already had Win XP and Fedora Core 1 on it. I was > > actually trying to replace the FC1 installation. When I got to the > > Disk > > > Partitioning screen during setup, I told it to delete and format any > > linux partitions. It appeared to start ok then acted a little weird. > > Unfortunately I have been fighting with this long enough that I can't > > give exact details as to what happened. Now it will not format or > > initialize the drive. At boot up (with WBEL or FC1 setup disks), when > > it > > > tries to read hda it states that there are I/O errors in sectors 0, 2, > > 6 > > > and 8. Now when I get to the partitioning screen I get these errors: > > > > 1. The partition table on hda was unreadable and asks me if I want to > > initialize the drive and loose all data on the drive. I tell it yes > > and > > > then I'll get this error > > > > 2. Input/Output error on /dev/hda retry , ignore, cancel. The same > > error occurs if I tell it to retry or if I tell it to ignore, this > > error > > > will come up > > > > 3. An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to > > create a file system > > > > I have tried to boot to a knoppix cd, it will not boot into knoppix > > and > > > will give me this error > > > > 1. ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk Read failed > > > > I also tried to use Partition Magic 5. It will not boot into the > > working screen and will give me a partition error message > > > > Also used Partition Magic 4. I can get to the working screen and > > create > > > partitions but this will not change the previous error messages when > > trying to setup WBEL or FC1 > > > > I used fdisk to delete all partitions and create new ones but still > > the > > > same results and this includes fdisk /mbr. > > > > > > Help! .......please!!! :-) > > > > Ed > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 19:41:22 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:41:22 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables Not Working In-Reply-To: <000d01c46a9c$62276d50$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000d01c46a9c$62276d50$49c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: Ed Morrison wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm having a problem with my iptables not working. Below is my iptables > file. If someone could show me what it is I am doing wrong I would > surely appreciate it. This is running on WBEL 3.0 and it is my mail > server. I have spammers sending directly to it and need to drop those > packets.... I highly suggest putting your rules in a script so you can run them and see what they are really doing one rule at a time, but that's just for ease of debugging, as in "bash -xv firewall.cfg" is often very useful. Other comments on general style, the ESTABLISHED rule should be the very first thing in the INPUT chain, because it is the most often matched. On a busy system this will make a visible difference in system time. It's faster and easier to understand if you set up a table to validate your tcp --syn packets, and just jump to that with a single rule if it's a SYN packet. It's safer to set policy on INPUT to DROP, then allow only what you really must have. Putting your icmp packets in a table makes this easy to understand as well. Finally, it looks as if you may have chains rather than tables loaded, that may or may not be as issue, I assume the tables module gets demand loaded eventually. I think you have some syntax error, without COMMIT it does nothing, which explains your other problem. Hope this helps. > > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP > -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP > -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > COMMIT > > > If I run: service iptables start I receive this error: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed > [FAILED] > > It doesn't like the COMMIT line. > > If I remove the COMMIT. I see this when start iptables: > > # service iptables start > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] > > > > And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that the tables loaded > none of the rules show up: > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K bytes) > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From MSQUIRES@iga.state.in.us Thu Jul 29 19:45:01 2004 From: MSQUIRES@iga.state.in.us (Michael Squires) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:45:01 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] RE: Corrupted WBEL Format Message-ID: <3CA89FB90E28114F8F854DFDA923B28701BE5C54@igamsmail.iga.local> I just had a similar problem with a Supermicro P4DCE+/dual 1.8GHz Xeon dual-booting MS Win XP and FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT. I rebuilt the kernel to support 3-D on either an ATI Radeon or MGA card, but after swapping the video board for the Matrox G450 dual-head card the system became unstable, the secondary disk became unreliable, and the system would crash during FreeBSD boot. MS Windows XP continued to operate OK. I eventually replaced the Matrox card with the original ATI Radeon and recompiled the kernel without support for the Matrox card, and the system stabilized. At one point the 40GB secondary was unavailable under Windows and couldn't be partitioned under FreeBSD, but deleting the partition and recreating it under Windows eventually caused it to reappear. The problem in FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT (the bleeding edge) is apparently due to contention between the ACPI layer and the DRM layer. The system arrived with RedHat AS 3 installed (which is very similar to WhiteBox, of course) and the secondary drive was already munged. I can't prove that the drive was ever any good, but so far (2 days) haven't had problems with it. This is probably a good reason for going with on-board ATI Rage video, rather than an AGP card, for servers. (The SM P4DCE+ seems to be a nice board, although it lacks modern features like Gigabit Ethernet or SATA support. So far I've recompiled the kernel and the OS itself, X.org, and KDE3, all without a problem.) Mike Squires From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 19:57:02 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:57:02 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> References: <40F7D9FF.3010809@eurorisksystems.com> Message-ID: Alex Georgiev wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to move the company file server from gentoo to WBEL or > other RHEL recompiled distro. > > The mother board is an old intel 820 desktop board with 512MB ram, > Pentium III 500MHz. This server provides the following services for 15 > windows/linux clients: > > oracle, samba, nfs, cvs, mail (smtp, pop3), dhcp, dns, http > > the average load is very, very low. > Except upgrading to WBEL I want to do 2 additional things: > > 1. Setup a network CD burning software under UML > We are using a separate machine for cd burning with webCDcreator, > I would like to move the cd burning to the file server, but > as some times cd burning makes the kernel panic, I think that I should > setup > User Mode Linux on the file server and provide this service under UML, > expecting > that a kernel panic in the UML, will not affect the underlying WBEL file > server. I intent to put a CD writer device and a CDROM device on > separate channels of the onboard IDE controller. Two comments on that, (1) I have never header of anyone doing that, and (2) I wouldn't bet that hardware issues wouldn't take down the real kernel anyway. The issues I've seen are caused by things like starting a burn with no CD, data overrun, mounting CD for read while burning. To some extent that can be cured by better practices. Do let us know if UML cures the problem, I'm looking at UML for a server farm, so I can move to a real machine as load grows. In general it's not an issue, if you have bad media, scrap it! I'm up around 100 burns without an issue, and uptime in the three digits since an unplanned reboot. > > > 2. Setup a software Raid 0 (mirror) with two 200GB disks using an > additional PCI IDE controller, The one I can found here is: > > EIO AP-1680 Ultra ATA/133 IDE RAID Controller Card > > http://www.ivmm.com/eio/products_ap1680.html with chip > set http://siimage.cubik.com/products/sii0680.asp > > This one is a cheap RAID controller, but I intend to use it as a pure > IDE controller, connect the two disks on separate channels, > and set up a software mirror, on wich to install WBEL, user data and > Oracle. RAID-1, and I suggest using Promise, which is also cheap and should work. Overhead should be low, even with a small system I see virtually no CPU used unless it's doing rebuild or similar. Put the drives on separate cables (you knew that). > > I shall buy a new 450 Watt power unit for the box. > > I have not used either EIO AP-1680 controller, UML or software raid so far, > and I will highly appreciate any comments and suggestions. Avoid the temptation to just roll in a new XXX instead of using the WBEL version. If you want to play cutting edge go FCn and enjoy, otherwise use the packages from the distribution. The strong point is stability rather than cutting edge. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From davidsen@tmr.com Thu Jul 29 20:00:02 2004 From: davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:00:02 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: <40F81900.6020300@nerdshack.com> References: <20040716170000.18876.79752.Mailman@library.beau.org><20040716170000.18876.79752.Mailman@library.beau.org> <40F81900.6020300@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: Shackmaster wrote: > I'd be curious to hear about anyone's experience with software RAID on a > heavily load NAS server? I have been considering the deployment of a 6TB > system, with dual opterons, runing a software based RAID 6. (WBEL of > course.) > > Can anyone speak problems with this setup? Alternatives? Did RH really put RAID-6 in? My only argument with any software RAID is that it depends on the BIOS being able to load some things before the kernel runs, and if a drive fails that may not happen. My only justification for using cruddy systemboard RAID in mirror mode just to boot, nothing more. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me From pantz@lqt.ca Thu Jul 29 20:04:58 2004 From: pantz@lqt.ca (Paul Pianta) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:04:58 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <41094A5A.2040909@lqt.ca> Ed Morrison wrote: >Help! .......please!!! :-) > >Ed > > Hey Ed If it's not already too late you could maybe try a groovy little tool that saved me once called gpart. I got stung by the kernel-2.6 bug that screws with the disk geometry and my partition table got wiped out (well i wiped it with a dd of zeroes to mbr - not a good move :\). gpart guesses where your old partition lines were and re-writes them. gpart only makes an educated guess but when you are at the end of the rope ... p.s. - gpart's guess was spot on for me! pantz -- Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes ... That way when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes! From jamesk@ifm-services.com Thu Jul 29 20:30:42 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:30:42 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: References: <20040716170000.18876.79752.Mailman@library.beau.org><20040716170000.18876.79752.Mailman@library.beau.org> <40F81900.6020300@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <41095062.3030805@ifm-services.com> If you're going to pay for 6TB of disk space, why not spring for a hardware RAID controller? If you're going IDE or SATA, 3ware has some great controllers. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From emorrison@ncen.org Thu Jul 29 20:48:47 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:48:47 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <41092D68.4060804@preciant.com> Message-ID: <001f01c475a5$13d8de90$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Jeremy, Thanks for your input and the tool. This appears to have done the trick. I had it check for errors....it crapped out and said there were too many to list....this is a 160GB drive. I then had it write zeros to the drive and now all *appears* to be good. I'll be keeping a close eye on the drive to make sure though ;-) Anyway, I was able to boot with my FC1 disk without errors. I have partitioned the drive and I'm installing winblows now (necessary for work)and will put WBEL and FC1 on it as soon as that is finished. This is a nice little tool and I'll keep it in my war chest. Thanks again it is much appreciated. Ed -----Original Message----- From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Bowers Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:01 AM To: whitebox-users@beau.org Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format If it's an IDE drive you can grab GWscan from here: http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/search.asp?param=gwscan&st=kw You have extract in from Windows, but once you boot from it, it'll give an option to write zeros to your drive. Writing zeros should clean up any messy partitions ( and anything else on the drive) and will also let you know if your hard drive is on the verge of dying, (which it may be, according to the symptoms. It's also able to fix some hard drive errors. --Jeremy Ed Morrison wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Seems as though I am on a role here. I was trying to setup WBEL on a >workstation that already had Win XP and Fedora Core 1 on it. I was >actually trying to replace the FC1 installation. When I got to the Disk >Partitioning screen during setup, I told it to delete and format any >linux partitions. It appeared to start ok then acted a little weird. >Unfortunately I have been fighting with this long enough that I can't >give exact details as to what happened. Now it will not format or >initialize the drive. At boot up (with WBEL or FC1 setup disks), when it >tries to read hda it states that there are I/O errors in sectors 0, 2, 6 >and 8. Now when I get to the partitioning screen I get these errors: > >1. The partition table on hda was unreadable and asks me if I want to >initialize the drive and loose all data on the drive. I tell it yes and >then I'll get this error > >2. Input/Output error on /dev/hda retry , ignore, cancel. The same >error occurs if I tell it to retry or if I tell it to ignore, this error >will come up > >3. An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to >create a file system > >I have tried to boot to a knoppix cd, it will not boot into knoppix and >will give me this error > >1. ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk Read failed > >I also tried to use Partition Magic 5. It will not boot into the >working screen and will give me a partition error message > >Also used Partition Magic 4. I can get to the working screen and create >partitions but this will not change the previous error messages when >trying to setup WBEL or FC1 > >I used fdisk to delete all partitions and create new ones but still the >same results and this includes fdisk /mbr. > > >Help! .......please!!! :-) > >Ed > >_______________________________________________ >Whitebox-users mailing list >Whitebox-users@beau.org >http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > _______________________________________________ Whitebox-users mailing list Whitebox-users@beau.org http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From kbohling@birddog.com Thu Jul 29 20:46:05 2004 From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby Bohling) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:46:05 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Software raid and User Mode Linux CD burning on WBEL In-Reply-To: References: <40F81900.6020300@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <20040729194603.GQ6586@hawk.birddog.com> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 03:00:02PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Shackmaster wrote: > >I'd be curious to hear about anyone's experience with software RAID on a > >heavily load NAS server? I have been considering the deployment of a 6TB > >system, with dual opterons, runing a software based RAID 6. (WBEL of > >course.) > > > >Can anyone speak problems with this setup? Alternatives? > > Did RH really put RAID-6 in? My only argument with any software RAID is > that it depends on the BIOS being able to load some things before the > kernel runs, and if a drive fails that may not happen. My only > justification for using cruddy systemboard RAID in mirror mode just to > boot, nothing more. Huh? Grub groks mirrors if you tell it to. I've got my boot disk on a mirror. If it crashes, can be sorta painful that I have to go fiddle with the BIOS to ignore the first drive. Kirby > > -- > -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) > "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the > last possible moment - but no longer" -me > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > From eddie@omegaware.com Thu Jul 29 21:06:31 2004 From: eddie@omegaware.com (Edward Rudd) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:06:31 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] skip anaconda? what would i be missing? In-Reply-To: <1091112376.8108.66179.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> References: <1091112376.8108.66179.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> Message-ID: <1091131591.30804.16.camel@urkle.vernon.hills> On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 09:46, gregwm wrote: > i'll bet there's a list of tweaks done by anaconda. i'll bet the distro > relies on those tweaks. is there anywhere a neat list of whatever > anaconda does to the filesystem other than install the RPMs? > anaconda partitions and formats the harddrive.. copies over the initial disk image (files necessary to run rpm), then installs the selected packages. and installs grub (grub-install), and pre-configures the machine (networking setup, hostname setup, language etc..) So you can do by w/o using the installer and just install the rpms. you just have to make sure grub gets installed on the MBR, and then run the configuration utils to setup the system (ie. redhat-config-network). anaconda doesn't do any "tweaking" just assigning the configuration settings you chose during the installation. > tia, > greg -- Edward Rudd Website http://www.outoforder.cc/ From jmorris@beau.org Fri Jul 30 00:37:13 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:37:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091085311.13546.1.camel@zooropa> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Mario Gamito wrote: > Don't install (or uninstall) the xmms that comes with WBHL. > Retrieve the source from www.xmms.org and then: Not recommended. If using a package managed OS you should avoid conflicts with the packaging system. Instead look in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources, enable DAG's archive and just do "up2date xmms". It even has neat things like the crossfade, flac, etc plugins. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From jmorris@beau.org Fri Jul 30 01:50:26 2004 From: jmorris@beau.org (John Morris) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:50:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] skip anaconda? what would i be missing? In-Reply-To: <1091112376.8108.66179.camel@ruby.rub.belfastdata.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, gregwm wrote: > what happens if i skip anaconda and try to build a system without it? I currently build from a chroot environment built by basically just installing all of the RPMS. The only things it doesn't do is install a boot loader or configure X. It would be a good experiment to run my script, dump the resulting filesystem to a partition, chroot in and make it bootable and then find out if it runs. If you want to try, grab it at http://whiteboxlinux.org/whitebox-buildutils.tar.gz -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From mtbiker@advantexmail.net Fri Jul 30 01:51:42 2004 From: mtbiker@advantexmail.net (Mark Brown) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:51:42 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Linux Newbie- Looking for good newbie Linux Sites In-Reply-To: <200407282041.i6SKfYQR006835@advmail.lsn.net> References: <200407282041.i6SKfYQR006835@advmail.lsn.net> Message-ID: <41099B9E.4080001@advantexmail.net> Just wanted to thank you all for your help and recommendations! From emorrison@ncen.org Fri Jul 30 03:05:58 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:05:58 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Iptables Not Working Message-ID: <000101c475d9$c14d05e0$0202a8c0@northcentralcounties.org> > I highly suggest putting your rules in a script so you can run them and > see what they are really doing one rule at a time, but that's just for > ease of debugging, as in "bash -xv firewall.cfg" is often very useful. Since this post and with help from the list I have put my rules in a script and it is functioning well for me. Thanks for the tip, I ran it and it is informative. > Other comments on general style, the ESTABLISHED rule should be the very > first thing in the INPUT chain, because it is the most often matched. On > a busy system this will make a visible difference in system time. I no longer run the ESTABLISHED rule due to changes to my iptables. A copy of my script is posted below. > It's faster and easier to understand if you set up a table to validate > your tcp --syn packets, and just jump to that with a single rule if it's > a SYN packet. Not sure I understand this, would you mind expanding on it? > It's safer to set policy on INPUT to DROP, then allow only > what you really must have. I think this (below) is what you are referring to here but if the rule before my accept rules is to drop all traffic, wouldn't that mean the following rules would not apply? I thought iptables walked through the rules in order applying them in order. Would it not be better to have the iptables -A INPUT -j DROP after the specific accept rules? # Allow other traffic iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 143 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT # iptables -A INPUT -s lo -j ACCEPT In addition I was told to add a loopback acceptance...what is the danger in NOT having this? How would I add it if necessary: iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -j ACCEPT ? > Putting your icmp packets in a table makes > this easy to understand as well. Again, I'm not sure if I understand this or how I would implement it. > Finally, it looks as if you may have chains rather than tables loaded, > that may or may not be as issue, I assume the tables module gets demand > loaded eventually. > > I think you have some syntax error, without COMMIT it does nothing, > which explains your other problem. Hope this helps. This has been fixed. New iptables: #!/bin/bash # Make sure iptables module is loaded insmod ip_tables # Flush any existing rules iptables -F INPUT # Block x.x.x.x/x.x.x.x iptables -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 12.205.157.201 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.95 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 219.103.193.130 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 130.120.81.14 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 207.3.145.251 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 131.234.66.101 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 12.109.164.254 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 12.109.164.25 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 219.120.54.178 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 219.120.54.1 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.221 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 69.145.104.154 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 208.19.107.78 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 210.92.210.1/24 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 62.3.209.74 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 66.160.82.166 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -s 202.141.1.28 -j DROP # Allow other traffic # iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 143 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT # iptables -A INPUT -s lo -j ACCEPT #Drop all other traffic # iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP > > Thanks for your input and assistance. Ed > > *filter > > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -s 24.20.253.108 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -s 69.145.105.154 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -s 4.11.196.79 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -s 80.202.20.7 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -s 137.164.158.14 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -s 201.129.85.142 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -s 24.19.7.146 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -s 66.44.140.103 -j DROP > > -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 106 -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p udp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT > > -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited > > COMMIT > > > > > > If I run: service iptables start I receive this error: > > > > # service iptables start > > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > > Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 23 failed > > [FAILED] > > > > It doesn't like the COMMIT line. > > > > If I remove the COMMIT. I see this when start iptables: > > > > # service iptables start > > Flushing firewall rules: [ OK ] > > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ] > > Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ] > > Applying iptables firewall rules: [ OK ] > > > > > > > > And yet when I run: iptables -L -v to verify that the tables loaded > > none of the rules show up: > > > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1753 packets, 296K bytes) > > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) > > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1820 packets, 293K bytes) > > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Whitebox-users mailing list > > Whitebox-users@beau.org > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users > > > > > -- > -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) > "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the > last possible moment - but no longer" -me > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From emorrison@ncen.org Fri Jul 30 03:08:48 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:08:48 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <41094A5A.2040909@lqt.ca> Message-ID: <000201c475da$2c7b3990$0202a8c0@northcentralcounties.org> Pantz, Thanks for the heads up. I was beyond the point for using this but I will put it in my war chest....thanks! Ed > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Pianta [mailto:pantz@lqt.ca] > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:05 PM > To: Ed Morrison > Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format > > Ed Morrison wrote: > > >Help! .......please!!! :-) > > > >Ed > > > > > Hey Ed > > If it's not already too late you could maybe try a groovy little tool > that saved me once called gpart. I got stung by the kernel-2.6 bug that > screws with the disk geometry and my partition table got wiped out (well > i wiped it with a dd of zeroes to mbr - not a good move :\). gpart > guesses where your old partition lines were and re-writes them. gpart > only makes an educated guess but when you are at the end of the rope ... > > p.s. - gpart's guess was spot on for me! > > pantz > > -- > Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes ... > That way when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their > shoes! From adrians@turnkey.web.za Fri Jul 30 07:43:12 2004 From: adrians@turnkey.web.za (Adrian Snyman) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:43:12 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> References: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <200407300843.12439.adrians@turnkey.web.za> On a side note as well .. Look at downloading the Ultimate boot CD http://www.ultimatebootcd.com Has a few nifty utilities .. -- Regards, Adrian Snyman Tel: (083)647-5299 /* Beat Me, Whip Me, Make me use Windows !! */ From gamito@netual.pt Fri Jul 30 07:46:18 2004 From: gamito@netual.pt (Mario Gamito) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:46:18 +0100 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> Dear John, On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 00:37, John Morris wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Mario Gamito wrote: > > > Don't install (or uninstall) the xmms that comes with WBHL. > > Retrieve the source from www.xmms.org and then: > > Not recommended. If using a package managed OS you should avoid conflicts > with the packaging system. Instead look in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources, > enable DAG's archive and just do "up2date xmms". It even has neat things > like the crossfade, flac, etc plugins. I couldn't agree with you more, of course. That was just a (lousy) way to make things work. I didn't understood the "enable DAG's archive" Can you (or someone else) explain it to me ? Warm Regards, M�rio Gamito From javanree@vanree.net Fri Jul 30 08:19:21 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:19:21 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> References: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> Message-ID: <200407300919.21160.javanree@vanree.net> On Friday 30 July 2004 08:46, Mario Gamito wrote: > Dear John, > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 00:37, John Morris wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Mario Gamito wrote: > > > Don't install (or uninstall) the xmms that comes with WBHL. > > > Retrieve the source from www.xmms.org and then: > > > > Not recommended. If using a package managed OS you should avoid > > conflicts with the packaging system. Instead look in > > /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources, enable DAG's archive and just do "up2date > > xmms". It even has neat things like the crossfade, flac, etc plugins. > > I couldn't agree with you more, of course. That was just a (lousy) way > to make things work. The best way would be to use the SPEC file from the WBEL package and fetch a clean source, edit the SPEC file and rebuild XMMS with MP3 support. I agree with John, doing .tar.gz installs over an RPM-based system is giving up the clean workings of the RPM system and making such a system a bitch to maintain, specially when trying to upgrade the distro (learned that the hard way) So these days I make my own (WBEL) RPM's for everything, ALSA, KDE, ntfs support etc etc, all done in neat RPM's so I can easily remove them or upgrade them. -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From randykel@swbell.net Fri Jul 30 09:39:05 2004 From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:39:05 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> References: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> Message-ID: <410A0929.7050600@swbell.net> Mario Gamito wrote: >>Not recommended. If using a package managed OS you should avoid conflicts >>with the packaging system. Instead look in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources, >>enable DAG's archive and just do "up2date xmms". It even has neat things >>like the crossfade, flac, etc plugins. >> >> >I couldn't agree with you more, of course. That was just a (lousy) way >to make things work. > >I didn't understood the "enable DAG's archive" >Can you (or someone else) explain it to me ? > > > Edit your /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file and add: yum dag-el3 http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el3/en/i386/dag/ to the end of the file. Next, import Dag's GPG Key: rpm --import http://apt.sw.be/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.dag.txt Then do a 'up2date xmms-mp3' to get the xmms-mp3 package, or up2date xmms* to get all the extras. From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Fri Jul 30 10:03:13 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:03:13 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> References: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> Message-ID: <1091178193.16137.14.camel@Myth.home.local> On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 01:46, Mario Gamito wrote: > I didn't understood the "enable DAG's archive" > Can you (or someone else) explain it to me ? Dag Wieers has a very large apt/yum repository for 3rd party packages. Here is his website: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/ John Morris has included the address to Dag's yum repository in the /etc/yum.conf file ... all that is needed is to add this line to your yum.conf file: ### Dag RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 rpm http://apt.sw.be redhat/el3/en/i386 dag And you can then install all the files from Dag's site that have been built for RHEL on WBEL with yum. Here is a link for Dag's FAQ: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/FAQ.php Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Fri Jul 30 10:08:32 2004 From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:08:32 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] xmms-mp3 In-Reply-To: <1091178193.16137.14.camel@Myth.home.local> References: <1091169972.3228.1.camel@zooropa> <1091178193.16137.14.camel@Myth.home.local> Message-ID: <1091178512.16137.19.camel@Myth.home.local> --=-Zj3hGh5Y917li+9jBGC4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 04:03, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 01:46, Mario Gamito wrote: > > > > I didn't understood the "enable DAG's archive" > > Can you (or someone else) explain it to me ? > > Dag Wieers has a very large apt/yum repository for 3rd party packages. > Here is his website: > > http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/ > > John Morris has included the address to Dag's yum repository in the > /etc/yum.conf file ... all that is needed is to add this line to your > yum.conf file: I posted the wrong info before ... I posted the info for how to set this up for APT and not yum ... sorry about that. Here is the real yum info: [dag] name=Dag RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise Linux baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el3/en/$basearch/dag Johnny Hughes HughesJR.com --=-Zj3hGh5Y917li+9jBGC4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 04:03, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 01:46, Mario Gamito wrote:

> I didn't understood the "enable DAG's archive"
> Can you (or someone else) explain it to me ?

Dag Wieers has a very large apt/yum repository for 3rd party packages. 
Here is his website:

http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/

John Morris has included the address to Dag's yum repository in the
/etc/yum.conf file ... all that is needed is to add this line to your
yum.conf file:

I posted the wrong info before ... I posted the info for how to set this up for APT and not yum ... sorry about that. Here is the real yum info:

[dag]
name=Dag RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise Linux baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el3/en/$basearch/dag




Johnny Hughes

HughesJR.com

--=-Zj3hGh5Y917li+9jBGC4-- From industrial_soup@dynacomp.net Fri Jul 30 12:47:26 2004 From: industrial_soup@dynacomp.net (Andy) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:47:26 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Corrupted WBEL Format In-Reply-To: <200407300843.12439.adrians@turnkey.web.za> References: <000a01c4758a$aea40d20$56c077cc@northcentralcounties.org> <200407300843.12439.adrians@turnkey.web.za> Message-ID: <410A354E.4010502@dynacomp.net> I can't miss an opportunity to link to my favorite tool :-) http://www.sysresccd.org/ linux boot cd with a zillion of useful utilities. Adrian Snyman wrote: >On a side note as well .. > >Look at downloading the Ultimate boot CD > >http://www.ultimatebootcd.com > >Has a few nifty utilities .. > > > From scott@mu.com.au Fri Jul 30 13:36:42 2004 From: scott@mu.com.au (Scott McClintock) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:36:42 +1000 Subject: [WBEL-users] IBM x306 + aarich driver for SATA RAID Message-ID: <410A40DA.3070003@mu.com.au> Hi All, I have an IBM x306 that I am trying to get linux loaded on... any Linux really ... just one that works .... Though WBEL would be the preference. Anyway, I have a RAID 1 array configured in the Adaptec BIOS but I cannot get Linux to recognise it. If I installed with linux dd noprobe, and use the IBM supplied aarich driver, it simply says that no suitable devices were found for the driver. The driver pick list in both Fedora core 2 and WBEL 3 lists the Adaptec SATA RAID aarich driver but also does not recognise the array. The Adaptec diagnostics say that the array is fine and the IBM diagnostic CD happily tests the array ok. I actually have to install about 10 of these boxes in the next couple of months so am pretty keen to find a solution. Any ideas anyone? I'd be happy to publish a procedure if we can get this sorted. Thanks Scott. PS. Apologies to the moderator for giving him extra work after I subscribed to the list with the wrong email address... Doh! -- ======================================================================== Scott McClintock Email: scott@mu.com.au Managing Director Phone: 07 3253 1222 MU Systems Pty Ltd Web: http://www.mu.com.au Brisbane, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unix/Linux Support LAN/WAN Support Internet Applications Development ======================================================================== From michael@fishnet.us Fri Jul 30 17:02:56 2004 From: michael@fishnet.us (Michael Brennen) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:02:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] IBM x306 + aarich driver for SATA RAID (fwd) Message-ID: I had to play some fairly serious games to load a IT8212 raid driver on WBEL. It started by compiling a versionless module on a Fedora C1 box, then copying the module to a vendor supplied RH9 driver diskette (the only one supported at the time). It was not detected correctly of course, but at the stage where the installation process indicated that no installation media was found I could flip to alt-f2 to the shell prompt, then manually load the module from the floppy. It was not a pretty process, but I was able to make it work. FWIW... -- Michael On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Scott McClintock wrote: > I have an IBM x306 that I am trying to get linux loaded on... any > Linux really ... just one that works .... Though WBEL would be the > preference. > > Anyway, I have a RAID 1 array configured in the Adaptec BIOS but I > cannot get Linux to recognise it. If I installed with linux dd > noprobe, and use the IBM supplied aarich driver, it simply says that > no suitable devices were found for the driver. The driver pick list > in both Fedora core 2 and WBEL 3 lists the Adaptec SATA RAID aarich > driver but also does not recognise the array. From scott@mu.com.au Sat Jul 31 00:14:07 2004 From: scott@mu.com.au (Scott McClintock) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:14:07 +1000 Subject: [WBEL-users] IBM x306 + aarich driver for SATA RAID In-Reply-To: References: <410A40DA.3070003@mu.com.au> Message-ID: <410AD63F.2040404@mu.com.au> Hmmm.... sounds a bit scary... Ok, a Whitebox newby question... can you generally assume that driver disks for RHEL 3 will work with WHEL 3 or are there some gotchas? regards Scott Michael Brennen wrote: > I had to play some fairly serious games to load a IT8212 raid driver > on WBEL. It started by compiling a versionless module on a Fedora C1 > box, then copying the module to a vendor supplied RH9 driver diskette > (the only one supported at the time). It was not detected correctly > of course, but at the stage where the installation process indicated > that no installation media was found I could flip to alt-f2 to the > shell prompt, then manually load the module from the floppy. It was > not a pretty process, but I was able to make it work. FWIW... > > -- Michael > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Scott McClintock wrote: > > >>I have an IBM x306 that I am trying to get linux loaded on... any >>Linux really ... just one that works .... Though WBEL would be the >>preference. >> >>Anyway, I have a RAID 1 array configured in the Adaptec BIOS but I >>cannot get Linux to recognise it. If I installed with linux dd >>noprobe, and use the IBM supplied aarich driver, it simply says that >>no suitable devices were found for the driver. The driver pick list >>in both Fedora core 2 and WBEL 3 lists the Adaptec SATA RAID aarich >>driver but also does not recognise the array. -- ======================================================================== Scott McClintock Email: scott@mu.com.au Managing Director Phone: 07 3253 1222 MU Systems Pty Ltd Web: http://www.mu.com.au Brisbane, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unix/Linux Support LAN/WAN Support Internet Applications Development ======================================================================== From jamesk@ifm-services.com Sat Jul 31 02:25:41 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:25:41 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] IBM x306 + aarich driver for SATA RAID In-Reply-To: <410AD63F.2040404@mu.com.au> References: <410A40DA.3070003@mu.com.au> <410AD63F.2040404@mu.com.au> Message-ID: <410AF515.1060107@ifm-services.com> > can you generally assume that driver disks for RHEL 3 will work As a general rule, yes. -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From danieljs@knology.net Sat Jul 31 03:46:34 2004 From: danieljs@knology.net (Daniel J. Summers) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:46:34 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] html email in whitebox list Message-ID: <410B080A.1070609@knology.net> jafar wrote: > <>What email app are people using here? Probably a little bit of everything... Personally, Mozilla Thunderbird. > <>I don't know about the rest, but I have my whitebox list messages > delivered as a digetst and get a lot of the following.. > >

class=3D193204109-28072004>

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> > And so on..... The digest doesn't strip out the tags -or- make them readable? Sounds like an opportunity for some open-source innovation! :) > <>Would it be rude to ask that people post what are essentially text > messages in plain text on this list? > It's just that there is a lot of it, and it makes it very difficult to > read and I might miss the opportunity to answer someone's question and > contribute a little to the list by sharing knowledge. > Don't take this as a flame or anything. It's just an observation and a > little suggestion. :) I doubt you'll offend anyone with your request. You make not get compliance either. ;) For me, it takes some remembering to go up and switch that "HTML" setting to "Plain Text" when I'm dealing with a mailing list. It's easy in newsgroups, because I tell it to use plain text for everything there. I like using HTML mail, personally. (Besides, my sig block probably looks like crap in plain text...) I know there are people who are rabidly opposed to it, and I find it really ironic that they're usually really smart folks. Heck, if you're smart enough to get Linux going... :) -- *Daniel J. Summers* E-mail - danieljs@knology.net *Web Sites:* Personal - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel Sunday School - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/sundayschool My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html From danieljs@knology.net Sat Jul 31 03:48:44 2004 From: danieljs@knology.net (Daniel J. Summers) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:48:44 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Library Management Software Message-ID: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> Okay, since I got a resounding 0 responses on my Athena question a few weeks ago... I know of at least one library that uses WBEL. :) Do any of you know what software package they (or any other library) would use under Linux? I'm working on setting something up for a school. Thanks.... -- *Daniel J. Summers* E-mail - danieljs@knology.net *Web Sites:* Personal - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel Sunday School - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/sundayschool My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html From tristan@linux.witenko.com Sat Jul 31 04:49:28 2004 From: tristan@linux.witenko.com (Tristan Rhodes) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:49:28 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Library Management Software In-Reply-To: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> References: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> Message-ID: <410B16C8.9000004@witenko.com> I used to work for a library network, so I looked into this before. The two biggest open source library projects that I have found are listed below. I have not tried either of them, though. Let me know how they work if you decide to test them. Good luck! Koha - Open Source Library System http://koha.org/ Emilda - Open Source Library Management http://www.realnode.fi/index.php?location=eng/projects/emilda Tristan Rhodes Daniel J. Summers wrote: > Okay, since I got a resounding 0 responses on my Athena question a few weeks ago... > > I know of at least one library that uses WBEL. :) Do any of you know what software package they (or any other library) would use under Linux? I'm working on setting something up for a school. Thanks.... > From hsc-linux@nc.rr.com Sat Jul 31 05:10:32 2004 From: hsc-linux@nc.rr.com (Hugh Crissman) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:10:32 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and Squirrelmail Message-ID: <20040731041032.GA17077@nc.rr.com> Ok, I dying here. I am trying to get squirrelmail setup. I thought it would be easy. I got apache running. I can get to the squirrelmail login. Then I get IMAP errors (connection failed error 111). Ok, now I am trying to figure out IMAP. Enter the pain. All the docs that come with imap say it is easy "plug and play" out of the box. Well, not my box. I can't figure how to change the config to point to my home directory which is where my mailbox is. The setup doc says, "change routine sysinbox()". What is sysinbox? I don't know. If someone know any good docs or can point me in the right direction that would be very useful. I don't even know where to start -- -------------------------- Sincerely, Hugh Crissman From asparks@quris.com Sat Jul 31 05:23:40 2004 From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:23:40 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Library Management Software In-Reply-To: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> References: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> Message-ID: <410B1ECC.8090405@quris.com> Daniel J. Summers wrote: > Okay, since I got a resounding 0 responses on my Athena question a few > weeks ago... > > I know of at least one library that uses WBEL. :) Do any of you know > what software package they (or any other library) would use under > Linux? I'm working on setting something up for a school. Thanks.... > I didn't see the original message, and I'm not a librarian, so I'm just speaking off the cuff... I remembered seeing this article in Linux Journal a good time ago about Koha. Don't know much about it, but maybe it's worth a look if you haven't discounted it already. http://linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6350 -- Alan Sparks, Sr. UNIX Administrator asparks@quris.com Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058 From tkb9@adelphia.net Sat Jul 31 05:29:01 2004 From: tkb9@adelphia.net (Toby Bluhm) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:29:01 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] Promise IDE hardware raid 1 built onto an Intel Zeon Server motherboard In-Reply-To: <019601c47420$8be08860$1001a8c0@Laptop> References: <019601c47420$8be08860$1001a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: <410B200D.7060406@adelphia.net> Denis Croombs wrote: >I have a couple of Intel Zeon motherboards with Promise IDE raid system >built in, I want to use the Hardware Raid 1(mirroring on 2 drives), I have >setup the raid and built the mirror, but Whitebox just sees the 2 drives and >not the single mirror, any clues as to how to make this work with Whitebox ? > >Thanks > >Denis > > > > You can try whatever linux drivers Promise has for your particular model. They are closed source, not kept up, have limited support and so on. Use software raid instead - works great. -- Toby Bluhm From jamesk@ifm-services.com Sat Jul 31 07:15:52 2004 From: jamesk@ifm-services.com (James Knowles) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:15:52 -0600 Subject: [WBEL-users] Library Management Software In-Reply-To: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> References: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> Message-ID: <410B3918.7040306@ifm-services.com> IANAL[ibrarian] but this might help http://www.oss4lib.org/ -- One-Day Introductory Course to Medieval Longsword 31 July 2004 http://www.thearma.org/events/utah_ntp10.htm From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Sat Jul 31 14:22:11 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and Squirrelmail In-Reply-To: <20040731041032.GA17077@nc.rr.com> References: <20040731041032.GA17077@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <34392.192.168.0.254.1091280131.squirrel@192.168.0.254> Hugh Crissman said: > Ok, now I > am trying to figure out IMAP. Enter the pain. All the docs that come with > imap say it is easy "plug and play" out of the box. Well, not my box. I > can't figure how to change the config to point to my home directory which > is where my mailbox is. The setup doc says, "change routine sysinbox()". > What is sysinbox? I don't know. If someone know any > good docs or can point me in the right direction that would be very useful. > I don't even know where to start Are you using the supplied IMAP server (imap-2002d-8.i386.rpm) or another one? Using Uw-imap (above) is as easy as: 1) Set up a system user 2) install imap ( rpm -ivh imap-2002d-8.i386.rpm) 3) enable imap (chkconfig imap on) -- William Hooper From hsc-linux@nc.rr.com Sat Jul 31 15:45:04 2004 From: hsc-linux@nc.rr.com (Hugh Crissman) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:45:04 -0400 Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and Squirrelmail In-Reply-To: <34392.192.168.0.254.1091280131.squirrel@192.168.0.254> References: <20040731041032.GA17077@nc.rr.com> <34392.192.168.0.254.1091280131.squirrel@192.168.0.254> Message-ID: <20040731144504.GA17423@nc.rr.com> On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 09:22:11AM -0400, William Hooper wrote: > > Hugh Crissman said: > > Ok, now I > > am trying to figure out IMAP. Enter the pain. All the docs that come with > > imap say it is easy "plug and play" out of the box. Well, not my box. I > > can't figure how to change the config to point to my home directory which > > is where my mailbox is. The setup doc says, "change routine sysinbox()". > > What is sysinbox? I don't know. If someone know any > > good docs or can point me in the right direction that would be very useful. > > I don't even know where to start > > Are you using the supplied IMAP server (imap-2002d-8.i386.rpm) or another one? > > Using Uw-imap (above) is as easy as: > > 1) Set up a system user > 2) install imap ( rpm -ivh imap-2002d-8.i386.rpm) > 3) enable imap (chkconfig imap on) > > -- > William Hooper > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users I am using the supplied UW-IMAP. But, I use maildir format not mbox. Is that a problem. Also, I suspect that where I spool mail to could be an issue. All my mail is collected via fetchmail, then filtered through procmail and ultimately deliverd to ~/Mail/"maildir formated dir". I am open to revamping this process if anyone has any comments. Ultimately, I want to run an IMAP server w/ squirrelmail for my internal network and possibly a couple of family members, ie. external. Thanks for the feedback. -- -------------------------- Sincerely, Hugh Crissman From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Sat Jul 31 16:44:04 2004 From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and Squirrelmail In-Reply-To: <20040731144504.GA17423@nc.rr.com> References: <20040731041032.GA17077@nc.rr.com> <34392.192.168.0.254.1091280131.squirrel@192.168.0.254> <20040731144504.GA17423@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <34771.192.168.0.254.1091288644.squirrel@192.168.0.254> Hugh Crissman said: > I am using the supplied UW-IMAP. But, I use maildir format not mbox. Is > that a problem. Have you read the FAQ? http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/index.html#1.31 "There is no support for qmail or the maildir format in our distribution, nor are there any plans to add such support." -- William Hooper From javanree@vanree.net Sat Jul 31 17:13:53 2004 From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:13:53 +0200 Subject: [WBEL-users] html email in whitebox list In-Reply-To: <410B080A.1070609@knology.net> References: <410B080A.1070609@knology.net> Message-ID: <200407311813.53301.javanree@vanree.net> On Saturday 31 July 2004 04:46, Daniel J. Summers wrote: > I doubt you'll offend anyone with your request. You make not get > compliance either. ;) For me, it takes some remembering to go up and > switch that "HTML" setting to "Plain Text" when I'm dealing with a > mailing list. It's easy in newsgroups, because I tell it to use plain > text for everything there. > I like using HTML mail, personally. (Besides, my sig block probably > looks like crap in plain text...) I know there are people who are > rabidly opposed to it, and I find it really ironic that they're usually > really smart folks. Heck, if you're smart enough to get Linux going... :) Nothing to do with "smart" but some people (like me) sometimes are "stuck" using the console or just prefer a console-based mail app such as elm, mutt or pine. Not sure about pine, but elm and mutt are terrible at handling HTML so it simply makes our life more difficult. For me it's gotten to a point where I'm seriously considering having procmail delete all email that's in HTML. Anybody here any experience with that? -- Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/ VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net GnuPG key | http://www.vanree.net/~javanree/publickey.asc From emorrison@ncen.org Sat Jul 31 17:42:18 2004 From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:42:18 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and Squirrelmail In-Reply-To: <20040731041032.GA17077@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <001701c4771d$5c4a0bd0$0202a8c0@northcentralcounties.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] > On Behalf Of Hugh Crissman > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:11 PM > To: whitebox-users@beau.org > Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and Squirrelmail > > Ok, I dying here. I am trying to get squirrelmail setup. I thought it > would be easy. I got apache running. I can get to the squirrelmail > login. Then I get IMAP errors (connection failed error 111). Ok, now I > am trying to figure out IMAP. I had problems installing squirrelmail also. Only I was trying to use bincimap. I changed to courrierimap and my problems were solved. Instruction for courierimap installation can be found at www.qmailrocks.org. I actually use a portion (courierimap/squirrelmail) of the qmailrocks setup and combined it with www.lazyinstaller.net (without the bincimap) setup for my mail server that I house a multi-organizational email service on. Sounds like overkill for what you want but you might want to check them out anyway. Ed Enter the pain. All the docs that come > with imap say it is easy "plug and play" out of the box. Well, not my > box. I can't figure how to change the config to point to my home > directory which is where my mailbox is. The setup doc says, "change > routine sysinbox()". What is sysinbox? I don't know. If someone know any > good docs or can point me in the right direction that would be very > useful. I don't even know where to start > > -- > -------------------------- > Sincerely, > > Hugh Crissman > > _______________________________________________ > Whitebox-users mailing list > Whitebox-users@beau.org > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users From portal@toasterz.com Sat Jul 31 20:01:11 2004 From: portal@toasterz.com (Kelley G) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:01:11 -0700 Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenGroupware and Linux World Expo San Fran 2004 In-Reply-To: <001701c4771d$5c4a0bd0$0202a8c0@northcentralcounties.org> References: <001701c4771d$5c4a0bd0$0202a8c0@northcentralcounties.org> Message-ID: <410BEC77.9040506@toasterz.com> hello all: my company toasterz is representing OpenGroupware.org at linux world expo in San Fran next week, august 2-5. here's my situation, i've been trying without success to get OpenGroupware running on wbel. i want to standardize all my toasterz offerings on wbel, and would like to be able to have wbel running on my demo server at lwe. however, i have an error in my wbel test install that i don't have time to track down. i think it's ntpl related, however the standard workaround ld_assume_kernel=2.4.19 doesn't work. if anyone wants to help wbel make a good apppearance at our ogo booth (#169), maybe you could follow the install instructions at http://exchangekiller.com and solve this thing for me. deadline: morning august 2rd. i'll be on the road for two days, but i will be checking my email. if you want to talk email me off the list with your phone number and i'll call you. specific issue: the install of all packages goes well, the apache module, ngobjweb, compiles without incident (download and edit the install script to match the 2.0.46 apache version, run ./add_remove_ogo.pl install) then follow the rest of the instructions for postgresql setup. you have to add the postgres user manually. add 'ld_assume_kernel-2.4.19' to /op/opengroupware.org/.bash_profile apache is unable to contact the ngobjweb module at runtime. internal server error is the response. /var/log/httpd/error.log shows repeated attempts to contact module. this software works on may distros without incident, including rhel3. anyway, please help solve this if you can and i'll give as much publicity for wbel as i can this coming week. thanks for your efforts on wbel -- i think you've done a great job! kelley graham open source advocate http://toasterz.com http://exchangekiller.com From danieljs@knology.net Sat Jul 31 22:37:05 2004 From: danieljs@knology.net (Daniel J. Summers) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:37:05 -0500 Subject: [WBEL-users] Library Management Software In-Reply-To: <410B1ECC.8090405@quris.com> References: <410B088C.6000303@knology.net> <410B1ECC.8090405@quris.com> Message-ID: <410C1101.4090103@knology.net> Alan Sparks wrote: > Daniel J. Summers wrote: > >> Okay, since I got a resounding 0 responses on my Athena question a >> few weeks ago... >> >> I know of at least one library that uses WBEL. :) Do any of you >> know what software package they (or any other library) would use >> under Linux? I'm working on setting something up for a school. >> Thanks.... >> > I didn't see the original message, and I'm not a librarian, so I'm > just speaking off the cuff... I remembered seeing this article in > Linux Journal a good time ago about Koha. Don't know much about it, > but maybe it's worth a look if you haven't discounted it already. > > http://linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6350 You're the second person to recommend that package - I'll definitely take a look at it. You're also not the first to say that you didn't see the original message, so I'll ask it again. :) Has anyone had any luck running the Athena library management system under WBEL? (It's a Windows program, so it would probably use wine or something like that...) -- *Daniel J. Summers* E-mail - danieljs@knology.net *Web Sites:* Personal - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel Sunday School - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/sundayschool My Linux Adventure - http://www.knology.net/~mopsmom/daniel/linux.html