[WBEL-users] RE: Whitebox-users digest, Vol 1 #246 - 10 msgs

Victor Moran victor@proximitygroup.com
Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:36:22 -0400


Hello,

I just tried subscribing as diadian to the new forum at 
www.whiteboxforum.com.  The registration process failed after I hit 
'submit' with an error saying "error sending email, debug mode".  Thanks 
for setting it up.

Victor.

David Overholser wrote:

>We have a new forum for WhiteBox users setup at www.whiteboxforum.com  Feel
>free to sign up and start posting, if anyone is interested in being an admin
>or moderator just let me know...it can be customized to suit everyones
>needs.  We just felt that since more and more people are starting to use
>WhiteBox that a forum would be an added asset since you can do searches and
>see other users questions and answers more readily.  Thanks.
>
>David Overholser
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: whitebox-users-request@beau.org
>[mailto:whitebox-users-request@beau.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:00 PM
>To: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: Whitebox-users digest, Vol 1 #246 - 10 msgs
>
>
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>Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: Any luck with JNI FCE-6460 Fiber channel cards (Kirby Bohling)
>   2. Web Log Files - HUGE (Ladar Levison)
>   3. Re: Any luck with JNI FCE-6460 Fiber channel cards (Ty R. McMichael)
>   4. Re: Web Log Files - HUGE (Thomas Swan)
>   5. Re: mail import .pst (Ed)
>   6. Re: Web Log Files - HUGE (Thomas Swan)
>   7. Re: redhat-config-network (Johnny Hughes)
>   8. error output when running yum update (Daniel Bahena)
>   9. Re: Any luck with JNI FCE-6460 Fiber channel cards (Dave Theodore)
>  10. Opteron (Christian Nygaard)
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:24:55 -0500
>From: Kirby Bohling <kbohling@birddog.com>
>To: Dave Theodore <dtheodore@akimbo.com>
>Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Any luck with JNI FCE-6460 Fiber channel cards
>
>On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 09:51:03AM -0700, Dave Theodore wrote:
>  
>
>>I am hoping to use JNI FCE-6460 fiber channel cards with WBEL.  The
>>    
>>
>"stock"
>  
>
>>kernel does not have a driver for this card and an lspci is unable to
>>recognize the card.  Has anyone gotten this card to work with WBEL?
>>    
>>
>
>Dave,
>
>	Not sure what all you've tried, but I've got a number of cards
>at home that only work with the kernel-unsupported RPM's installed.
>That has a lot of obscure modules in it.  I know that's the one I
>have to install to get the bttv.o modules for my WinTV card.
>
>	Good luck,
>		Kirby
>
>  
>
>>Dave
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:24:04 -0500
>From: "Ladar Levison" <Ladar.Levison@imaginesolutions.com>
>To: <whitebox-users@beau.org>
>Cc: <maillists@crescentdigital.com>
>Subject: [WBEL-users] Web Log Files - HUGE
>
>Jeff --
>
>By default, logrotate should rotate the logs every week, and keep up to
>four weeks worth. Perhaps you accidently stopped the cron the job from
>running.
>
>Make sure this log-rotate script is still set to run daily. Also note
>that you can have logrotate compress your log files, which might be a
>good idea in your case (if you don't mind the overhead).
>
>My cron job and logrotate.conf file :
>
>[ladar@staci cron.daily]$ cat logrotate
>#!/bin/sh
>
>/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
>EXITVALUE=$?
>if [ $EXITVALUE != 0 ]; then
>    /usr/bin/logger -t logrotate "ALERT exited abnormally with
>[$EXITVALUE]"
>fi
>exit 0
>[ladar@staci cron.daily]$ cat /etc/logrotate.conf
># see "man logrotate" for details
># rotate log files weekly
>weekly
>
># keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
>rotate 4
>
># create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
>create
>
># uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
>#compress
>
># RPM packages drop log rotation information into this directory
>include /etc/logrotate.d
>
># no packages own wtmp -- we'll rotate them here
>/var/log/wtmp {
>    monthly
>    create 0664 root utmp
>    rotate 1
>}
>
># system-specific logs may be also be configured here.
>
>
>Let me know if you have any more problems.
>
>L~
>
>From: "Jeff Maze" <maillists@crescentdigital.com>
>To: "'Users Group'" <whitebox-users@beau.org>
>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:55:15 -0400
>Subject: [WBEL-users] Web Log Files - HUGE
>
>Hello,
>	I was wondering if there was some documentation on possibly
>using LogRotate to cut back on the sizes of my webserver log file..
>Some of them are huge (probably the largest is a gig or two, maybe
>more)..
>
>	I would like to delete everything before Jan 2001 and will
>LogRotate allow me to do this?  I point in the right direction would
>greatly be appreciated..  Thanks..
>
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 3
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Any luck with JNI FCE-6460 Fiber channel cards
>From: "Ty R. McMichael" <ty_mcmichael@po.cfec.state.ak.us>
>To: Kirby Bohling <kbohling@birddog.com>
>Cc: Dave Theodore <dtheodore@akimbo.com>, whitebox-users@beau.org
>Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:27:46 -0800
>
>I would also start with installing the appropriate unsupported kernel.
>Although it did not solve my D-Link DGE-5000SX driver issue, it solved
>others such as NCPFS.  The weird thing is, that prior to their sale to
>AMCC, JNI frequently mentioned Linux driver support.  Here is an
>semi-old link from fibrechannel.org that discusses their unix
>driversuite and specifically the linux portion.  It does contain a
>number to call, but who knows.  The URL's have obviously changed as
>well.  Good luck.
>
>http://www.fibrechannel.org/press/jni000424a.html
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 09:24, Kirby Bohling wrote:
>  
>
>>On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 09:51:03AM -0700, Dave Theodore wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>I am hoping to use JNI FCE-6460 fiber channel cards with WBEL.  The
>>>      
>>>
>"stock"
>  
>
>>>kernel does not have a driver for this card and an lspci is unable to
>>>recognize the card.  Has anyone gotten this card to work with WBEL?
>>>      
>>>
>>Dave,
>>
>>	Not sure what all you've tried, but I've got a number of cards
>>at home that only work with the kernel-unsupported RPM's installed.
>>That has a lot of obscure modules in it.  I know that's the one I
>>have to install to get the bttv.o modules for my WinTV card.
>>
>>	Good luck,
>>		Kirby
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>>    
>>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:47:26 -0500
>From: Thomas Swan <tswan@idigx.com>
>To: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Web Log Files - HUGE
>
>Ladar Levison wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Jeff --
>>
>>By default, logrotate should rotate the logs every week, and keep up to
>>four weeks worth. Perhaps you accidently stopped the cron the job from
>>running.
>>
>>Make sure this log-rotate script is still set to run daily. Also note
>>that you can have logrotate compress your log files, which might be a
>>good idea in your case (if you don't mind the overhead).
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>Another really useful option is "delaycompress"
>
>The current log and the most recently rotated copy are uncompressed for
>searching, etc.  Older rotations are fully compressed.
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:20:49 -0700
>From: Ed <ekg@tricity.wsu.edu>
>Reply-To: ekg@tricity.wsu.edu
>To: marcusv <marcusv@siemagblanes.co.za>
>CC: Whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] mail import .pst
>
>marcusv wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi there List.
>>
>>Would the following be possible.
>>
>>I have a .pst 340MB  file from M$ Outlook.
>>This file has some error and M$ Outlook says to repair it with
>>SCANPST.EXE.
>>
>>When the scan is complete i try to import again but it still gives me
>>the same error.
>>Is it possible to use Linux [REDHAT WhiteBox] to import this .pst file
>>and then to export it back to a .pst file as the user "wants" to use M$
>>Outlook.
>>    
>>
>
>Maybe -- give it a try!  Maybe you should ask an outlook users's list if
>they've seen this problem before?
>
>Details would also be helpful, for example, what error message?  What
>program are you trying to import it with?  What version of outlook?
>What version of the program you're importing it with?
>
>   Ed
>
>  
>
>>So i would like to use linux as a repair tool.
>>
>>Regards
>>Marcus
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>>    
>>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 17:28:12 -0500
>From: Thomas Swan <tswan@idigx.com>
>To: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Web Log Files - HUGE
>
>Thomas Swan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Ladar Levison wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Jeff --
>>>
>>>By default, logrotate should rotate the logs every week, and keep up to
>>>four weeks worth. Perhaps you accidently stopped the cron the job from
>>>running.
>>>
>>>Make sure this log-rotate script is still set to run daily. Also note
>>>that you can have logrotate compress your log files, which might be a
>>>good idea in your case (if you don't mind the overhead).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Another really useful option is "delaycompress"
>>
>>The current log and the most recently rotated copy are uncompressed for
>>searching, etc.  Older rotations are fully compressed.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>If your log files are growing unwieldy you can increase the frequency of
>rotation from weekly to daily.   If you do this, then set the number of
>rotations to keep to a larger number so you keep the same number of days
>like 28 or 35.
>
>I have a server where the web traffic logs are over 2GB for a week and
>the traffic analyzer was throwing fits.   The solution was to analyze,
>rotate and compress the log files daily.   This dramatically reduced log
>file space by keeping the average daily disk usage fairly constant:
>i.e. instead of using 2-5GB of disk space, the average usage is around
>750MB.
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 7
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] redhat-config-network
>From: Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists@hughesjr.com>
>Reply-To: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com
>To: Whitebox-Users <whitebox-users@beau.org>
>Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 17:55:46 -0500
>
>
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>
>On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 11:28, Nick Lunt wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Folks,
>>
>>I recently installed WBEL after hearing about it on the RHCT course I
>>recently did.
>>
>>My RHCT tutor said that redhat-config-network uses profiles, so if I then
>>    
>>
>go
>  
>
>>and edit the network files by hand I would have to then also edit the
>>network files for the profile that redhat-config-created.
>>
>>I can see on my machine that their is a profiles directory so I have no
>>reason to disbelieve what my tutor told me, however if I was to use
>>redhat-config-network do I really have to then edit the profile files if I
>>manually edit the network files ?
>>
>>Just to clarify, I won't be using redhat-config-network anyway, but I'd
>>    
>>
>like
>  
>
>>this issue clearing up before I go for the RHCE.
>>
>>The RHCE study book I have doesn't mention the profiles stuff - not yet
>>anyway.
>>
>>Many thanks
>>Nick.
>>    
>>
>
>
>NO ... you do not need to edit the profiles as well if you edit the
>/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts files by hand.  I edited the ifcfg-eth0
>file there and it changed all the files (in
>/etc/sysconfig/networking/devices and /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles
>... it seems the files are hard links to the original.  It might be a
>good idea to _check_ the scripts in /etc/sysconfig/netowrking/devices
>and /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles though).
>
>-Johnny Hughes
>
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>On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 11:28, Nick Lunt wrote:
><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
><PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>Hi Folks,
>
>I recently installed WBEL after hearing about it on the RHCT course I
>recently did.
>
>My RHCT tutor said that redhat-config-network uses profiles, so if I then go
>and edit the network files by hand I would have to then also edit the
>network files for the profile that redhat-config-created.
>
>I can see on my machine that their is a profiles directory so I have no
>reason to disbelieve what my tutor told me, however if I was to use
>redhat-config-network do I really have to then edit the profile files if I
>manually edit the network files ?
>
>Just to clarify, I won't be using redhat-config-network anyway, but I'd like
>this issue clearing up before I go for the RHCE.
>
>The RHCE study book I have doesn't mention the profiles stuff - not yet
>anyway.
>
>Many thanks
>Nick.</I></FONT></PRE>
></BLOCKQUOTE>
><BR>
>NO ... you do not need to edit the profiles as well if you edit the
><B>/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts</B> files by hand.&nbsp; I edited the
>ifcfg-eth0 file there and it changed all the files (in
><B>/etc/sysconfig/networking/devices</B> and
><B>/etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles</B> ... it seems the files are hard
>links to the original.&nbsp; It might be a good idea to <B>_check_</B> the
>scripts in <B>/etc/sysconfig/netowrking/devices</B> and
><B>/etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles</B> though).<BR>
><BR>
>-Johnny Hughes
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>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 8
>From: Daniel Bahena <daniel@informatux.dyndns.org>
>To: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Organization: Informatux.net
>Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:45:18 -0500
>Subject: [WBEL-users] error output when running yum update
>
>Hi!
>
>I have the following in my /etc/yum.conf
>
>[root@yoda packages]# more /etc/yum.conf
>[main]
>cachedir=/var/cache/yum
>debuglevel=2
>logfile=/var/log/yum.log
>pkgpolicy=newest
>distroverpkg=whitebox-release
>tolerant=1
>exactarch=1
>
>[base]
>name=White Box Enterprise Linux $releasever - $basearch - Base
>baseurl=ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/whitebox/3.0/en/os/i386/
>
>[updates-released]
>name=White Box Enterprise Linux $releasever - $basearch - Released
>Updates
>baseurl=ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/whitebox/3.0/en/updates/
>
>[dag]
>name=Dag RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3
>baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el3/en/$basearch/dag
>[root@yoda packages]#
>
>When I run yum update it tells me that it's going to do the following:
>[root@yoda packages]# yum update
> Recogiendo·la·información·del·archivo(s)·de·cabecera·del·servidor(es)
>Servidor:·White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 - i386 - Base
>Servidor:·Dag RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3
>Servidor:·White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 - i386 - Released Updates
>Encontrando·paquetes·actualizados
>Descargando·las·cabeceras·necesarias
>Resolviendo·dependencias
>Dependencias·resueltas
>Haré·lo·siguiente:
>[actualizar:·rpm-devel 4.2.2-0.14.WB1.i386]
>[actualizar:·rpm 4.2.2-0.14.WB1.i386]
>[actualizar:·elfutils-libelf 0.94-1.i386]
>[actualizar:·gdb 6.0post-0.20040223.20.i386]
>[actualizar:·lha 1.14i-10.2.i386]
>[actualizar:·elfutils-devel 0.94-1.i386]
>[actualizar:·nfs-utils 1.0.6-21EL.i386]
>[actualizar:·elfutils-libelf-devel 0.94-1.i386]
>[actualizar:·elfutils 0.94-1.i386]
>[actualizar:·rpm-build 4.2.2-0.14.WB1.i386]
>[actualizar:·libpng 2:1.2.2-21.i386]
>[actualizar:·sendmail-cf 8.12.11-3.3.i386]
>[actualizar:·utempter 0.5.5-1.3EL.0.i386]
>[actualizar:·gnome-panel 2.2.2.1-7.i386]
>[actualizar:·sendmail 8.12.11-3.3.i386]
>[actualizar:·rpm-python 4.2.2-0.14.WB1.i386]
>Is this ok [y/N]:
>
>and if I tell it Y, I get this error:
> (this is only a part of it, because it flods my screen)
>error: error(-30982) getting "Sigmd5" records from Basenames index
>rpmdb: fatal region error detected; run recovery
>error: db4 error(-30982) from db->get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
>database recovery
>error: error(-30982) getting "Triggername" records from Basenames index
>rpmdb: fatal region error detected; run recovery
>error: db4 error(-30982) from db->get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
>database recovery
>error: error(-30982) getting "__db.001" records from Basenames index
>rpmdb: fatal region error detected; run recovery
>error: db4 error(-30982) from db->get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
>database recovery
>error: error(-30982) getting "__db.002" records from Basenames index
>rpmdb: fatal region error detected; run recovery
>error: db4 error(-30982) from db->get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
>database recovery
>error: error(-30982) getting "__db.003" records from Basenames index
>rpmdb: fatal region error detected; run recovery
>error: db4 error(-30982) from db->get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
>database recovery
>error: error(-30982) getting "__db.004" records from Basenames index
>rpmdb: fatal region error detected; run recovery
>error: db4 error(-30982) from db->get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
>database recovery
>error: error(-30982) getting "__db.005" records from Basenames index
>rpmdb: fatal region error detected; run recovery
>error: db4 error(-30982) from db->get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
>database recovery
>error: error(-30982) getting "__db.006" records from Basenames index
>
>Any help?
>
>Best wishes
>--
>Daniel Bahena <daniel@informatux.dyndns.org>
>Informatux.net
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 9
>From: "Dave Theodore" <dtheodore@akimbo.com>
>To: <whitebox-users@beau.org>
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Any luck with JNI FCE-6460 Fiber channel cards
>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:30:29 -0700
>
>Thanks for the replies.  I called AMCC/JNI "support" this morning and they
>said that they initially planned to offer closed source linux drivers then
>make them open-source.  The printed docs included with the card and
>marketing stuff I found on the web say that this card is supported on linux.
>Somewhere along the line, they decided (or AMCC decided) not to pursue linux
>drivers, though and they will not be releasing a closed source driver.  I
>tried rolling a custom kernel with everything that even remotely seemed like
>it might contain support for the card and it is still not recognized.  Part
>of the reason that I chose WBEL as the distro for this project is because of
>the theoretical added reliability of a stable disto like RHEL, so I was
>trying to get away from rolling my own kernel or using devices that are not
>supported by the stock kernel.  I will likely exchange the cards for Qlogic
>2340's.
>
>Thanks again,
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ty R. McMichael" <ty_mcmichael@po.cfec.state.ak.us>
>To: "Kirby Bohling" <kbohling@birddog.com>
>Cc: "Dave Theodore" <dtheodore@akimbo.com>; <whitebox-users@beau.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 11:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Any luck with JNI FCE-6460 Fiber channel cards
>
>
>  
>
>>I would also start with installing the appropriate unsupported kernel.
>>Although it did not solve my D-Link DGE-5000SX driver issue, it solved
>>others such as NCPFS.  The weird thing is, that prior to their sale to
>>AMCC, JNI frequently mentioned Linux driver support.  Here is an
>>semi-old link from fibrechannel.org that discusses their unix
>>driversuite and specifically the linux portion.  It does contain a
>>number to call, but who knows.  The URL's have obviously changed as
>>well.  Good luck.
>>
>>http://www.fibrechannel.org/press/jni000424a.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 09:24, Kirby Bohling wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 09:51:03AM -0700, Dave Theodore wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I am hoping to use JNI FCE-6460 fiber channel cards with WBEL.  The
>>>>        
>>>>
>"stock"
>  
>
>>>>kernel does not have a driver for this card and an lspci is unable to
>>>>recognize the card.  Has anyone gotten this card to work with WBEL?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Dave,
>>>
>>>Not sure what all you've tried, but I've got a number of cards
>>>at home that only work with the kernel-unsupported RPM's installed.
>>>That has a lot of obscure modules in it.  I know that's the one I
>>>have to install to get the bttv.o modules for my WinTV card.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>Kirby
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>>>      
>>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 16:18:53 +0200 (CEST)
>From: Christian Nygaard <chris-public@math.uu.se>
>To: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: [WBEL-users] Opteron
>
>
>What is required to run WhiteBox Linux on AMD Opteron systems is it needed
>to run the full AMD64 port, or is it enough just to run the standard i386
>dist with an opteron enabled kernel? Thinking of using something in the line
>of 4GB of memory in the Opteron machines.
>
>Lastly I would like to thank John for bringing us a great distro!
>
>//Christian
>
>
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