From nozy@mozysswamp.org Mon Nov 1 02:13:17 2004
From: nozy@mozysswamp.org (Michael Falzon)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:13:17 +1100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Update Kernal on WB
In-Reply-To: <4181F35B.5090502@uni-konstanz.de>
References: <1098939920.6220.35.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
<1042.192.168.0.3.1098951719.squirrel@192.168.0.3>
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FAQ of WB ? can see it ?
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 17:38, Kay Diederichs wrote:
> Michael Falzon wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >
> >>/What are the symptoms exactly?
> >>/
> >>
> > OK with 2.4.26 X she boots X11 load logon and X dies with this
> > this is for the x logs
> >
> > GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 135 (): error 'No such
> > process' during 'pthread_getschedparam (pthread_self(), &policy, &sched)'
> > aborting...
> >
>
> the problem is that your self-compiled 2.4.26 kernel has no TLS support (the
> vanilla 2.4 series simply does not have it), whereas the RedHat kernels have it.
>
> Remedy: remove or rename the directory /lib/tls - this will make X (and other
> stuff) work nicely. Also, keep in mind that whenever you update glibc you need
> to take care of /lib/tls .
>
> In case you have a Nvidia card and use the NVIDIA driver, you must install it
> with --force-tls=classic
>
> Basically, the problem is a FAQ on this list.
>
> Kay
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
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FAQ of WB ? can see it ?
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 17:38, Kay Diederichs wrote:
Michael Falzon wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>>/What are the symptoms exactly?
>>/
>>
> OK with 2.4.26 X she boots X11 load logon and X dies with this
> this is for the x logs
>
> GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 135 (): error 'No such
> process' during 'pthread_getschedparam (pthread_self(), &policy, &sched)'
> aborting...
>
the problem is that your self-compiled 2.4.26 kernel has no TLS support (the
vanilla 2.4 series simply does not have it), whereas the RedHat kernels have it.
Remedy: remove or rename the directory /lib/tls - this will make X (and other
stuff) work nicely. Also, keep in mind that whenever you update glibc you need
to take care of /lib/tls .
In case you have a Nvidia card and use the NVIDIA driver, you must install it
with --force-tls=classic
Basically, the problem is a FAQ on this list.
Kay
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
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From liverbird89@hotmail.com Mon Nov 1 03:16:12 2004
From: liverbird89@hotmail.com (Graham Waring)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:16:12 +1000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Boot Error after recompile
Message-ID:
G'day Ray,
Someone may have already pointed this out and my oppologies for repeating
this, but looking at your grub.conf, for your new kernel you have put a "-"
and not "=" in your "hdg=ide-scsi" parameter. Upon boot, if you can arrow
down and boot successfully to the original kernel which has the
"hdg=ide=scsi" parameter then it would be my first suggestion to change the
"-" to a "=". Hope it helps.
Cheers
Graham
>From: Ray
>To: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Boot Error after recompile
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:23:38 -0700
>
>
>
>Ok I redid a recompile and now when I reboot
>I get: "File not found /bzImage2.4.21 ro root=LABEL=/ hdg=ide=scsi"
> > I double and tripled checked my /boot directory and my syntax
>and I don't understand why I'm getting this error.
>my grub.conf file:
>
># grub.conf generated by anaconda
>#
># Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this
>file
># NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that
># all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
># root (hd1,0)
># kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdf2
># initrd /initrd-version.img
>#boot=/dev/hde
>default=0
>timeout=10
>splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>title White Box Enterprise Linux (2.4.21-15.EL)
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-15.EL ro root=LABEL=/ hdg=ide-scsi
> initrd /initrd-2.4.21-15.EL.img
>
>
>
>title White Box 3
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel /bzImage2.4.21 ro root=LABEL=/ hdg=ide=scsi
> initrd /thirdinitrd-image
>
>title DOS
> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> chainloader +1
>
>I'm following the directions in the 'Red Hat Linux Bible' (Fedora and
>Enterprise edition) on page 970
>and page 65(Grub).
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
>_______________________________________________
>Whitebox-users mailing list
>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
From =?ISO-8859-1?Q?pedro_ca=F1adilla?= Mon Nov 1 09:55:14 2004
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?pedro_ca=F1adilla?= (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?pedro_ca=F1adilla?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:55:14 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenOffice RPM dependencies problem
In-Reply-To: <200410311520.39960.javanree@vanree.net>
References: <200410311520.39960.javanree@vanree.net>
Message-ID: <1f440f1a041101015560b12b80@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
Updating with yum also needs the package openoffice.org-style-gnome.
It has a very tiny size.
Regards,
P.C.
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:20:39 +0100, Jan-Albert van Ree
wrote:
> I just installed openoffice. However it seems some dependencies are
> incorrect :
>
> # sudo rpm -i openoffice.org-1.1.0-16.14.EL.i386.rpm
> openoffice.org-libs-1.1.0-16.14.EL.i386.rpm
> openoffice.org-i18n-1.1.0-16.14.EL.i386.rpm
>
> warning: openoffice.org-1.1.0-16.14.EL.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY,
> key ID 73307de6
> error: Failed dependencies:
> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/getstyle-gnome is needed by
> openoffice.org-1.1.0-16.14.EL
> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/msgbox-gnome is needed by
> openoffice.org-1.1.0-16.14.EL
> Suggested resolutions:
> openoffice.org-1.1.0-16.7.EL.i386.rpm
>
> or is this because of the new
> openoffice.org-style-gnome-1.1.0-16.9.EL.i386.rpm package (which I assumed
> wasn't needed in my situation since I use KDE) ?
> --
> Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/
> VanReeDotNet IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net
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From javanree@mail.vanree.net Mon Nov 1 12:27:23 2004
From: javanree@mail.vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 13:27:23 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] WB host behind linksys router can't see out (or in)
In-Reply-To:
References: <3861c6770410301941328c4af7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20041101122723.GA10805@mail.vanree.net>
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 08:14:13PM -0700, jim stockford wrote:
>
> I don't think jumping up and down is required--I find
> hiccuping works. I'm afraid not to turn around, though
> and haven't tried omitting that step.
>
> Somewhere in the rats nest of the GUI I saw DNS fields
> empty, so I entered
> 192.168.1.1
> 64.
>
>
> golly, now I can see out and make google work.
>
> QUESTION: either the 192.168.1.1 is wrong or the others,
> I guess one day I might stumble on the GUI again and could
> wipe out 192.168.1.1 or the other two and see for myself,
> but I'll know sooner if someone tells me.
All DNS servers are listed in /etc/resolv.conf , just edit it using vi or some other editor and forget about any GUI ;)
--
Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/
VanRee IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net
From javanree@mail.vanree.net Mon Nov 1 12:41:55 2004
From: javanree@mail.vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 13:41:55 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenOffice RPM dependencies problem
In-Reply-To: <1f440f1a041101015560b12b80@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200410311520.39960.javanree@vanree.net> <1f440f1a041101015560b12b80@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20041101124155.GA11070@mail.vanree.net>
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 10:55:14AM +0100, pedro cańadilla wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Updating with yum also needs the package openoffice.org-style-gnome.
> It has a very tiny size.
Then something is broken wrt the dependencies, as it never asked for that particulair RPM... I'll have a look in the SRPM SPEC file tonight....
--
Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/
VanRee IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net
From jkunkel@laurcat.com Mon Nov 1 15:36:58 2004
From: jkunkel@laurcat.com (Jim Kunkel)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:36:58 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] startup control
Message-ID: <032501c4c028$a033a320$6301a8c0@lc>
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In RedHat distros that I have used, processes that start at boot time =
are enabled/disabled by a utility, "ntsysv"
What is the corresponding utility in WBEL?
TIA,
jk
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In RedHat distros that I have used, =
processes that=20
start at boot time are enabled/disabled by a utility, =
"ntsysv"
What is the corresponding utility in=20
WBEL?
TIA,
jk
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From jim@well.com Mon Nov 1 16:26:00 2004
From: jim@well.com (jim stockford)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:26:00 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] WB host behind linksys router can't see out (or in)
In-Reply-To: <20041101122723.GA10805@mail.vanree.net>
Message-ID:
THANK YOU!
On Monday, Nov 1, 2004, at 04:27 US/Pacific, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 08:14:13PM -0700, jim stockford wrote:
>>
>> I don't think jumping up and down is required--I find
>> hiccuping works. I'm afraid not to turn around, though
>> and haven't tried omitting that step.
>>
>> Somewhere in the rats nest of the GUI I saw DNS fields
>> empty, so I entered
>> 192.168.1.1
>> 64.
>>
>>
>> golly, now I can see out and make google work.
>>
>> QUESTION: either the 192.168.1.1 is wrong or the others,
>> I guess one day I might stumble on the GUI again and could
>> wipe out 192.168.1.1 or the other two and see for myself,
>> but I'll know sooner if someone tells me.
>
> All DNS servers are listed in /etc/resolv.conf , just edit it using vi
> or some other editor and forget about any GUI ;)
> --
> Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/
> VanRee IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Mon Nov 1 16:26:08 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:26:08 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] startup control
In-Reply-To: <032501c4c028$a033a320$6301a8c0@lc>
References: <032501c4c028$a033a320$6301a8c0@lc>
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I've always used chkconfig myself. I've use RedHat for years and never
heard of ntsysv. but you live and learn.
Jim Kunkel wrote:
> In RedHat distros that I have used, processes that start at boot time
> are enabled/disabled by a utility, "ntsysv"
>
> What is the corresponding utility in WBEL?
>
> TIA,
> jk
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From grahamp@wsieurope.com Mon Nov 1 16:49:17 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:49:17 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] startup control
In-Reply-To: <418667E2.8070501@zope.com>
References: <032501c4c028$a033a320$6301a8c0@lc> <418663A0.5050807@wsieurope.com> <418667E2.8070501@zope.com>
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So now I've learned.
So the answer is -
use
redhat-config-services
which have been the prefered tools since RH9
locate redhat-config
and see the plethora of other useful tools.
Hope this helps.
Thanks Tres for the history lesson :)
Graham
Tres Seaver wrote:
> Graham Purcocks wrote:
>
>> I've always used chkconfig myself. I've use RedHat for years and never
>> heard of ntsysv. but you live and learn.
>
>
> 'ntsysv' was a console GUI application, similar to the X-based
> 'redhat-config-services' GUI.
>
>> Jim Kunkel wrote:
>>
>>> In RedHat distros that I have used, processes that start at boot time
>>> are enabled/disabled by a utility, "ntsysv"
>>>
>>> What is the corresponding utility in WBEL?
>
>
> # uname -a
> Linux xyz.example.com 2.4.21-15.0.4.EL #1 Wed Aug 4 13:47:17 EDT 2004
> i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
> [root@xyz root]# rpm -qi ntsysv
> Name : ntsysv Relocations: (not relocatable)
> Version : 1.3.11 Vendor: whiteboxlinux.org
> Release : 0.3 Build Date: Tue 14 Sep 2004
> 02:33:39 PM EDT
> Install Date: Mon 20 Sep 2004 06:06:40 AM EDT Build Host:
> bob.whiteboxlinux.org
> Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM:
> chkconfig-1.3.11-0.3.src.rpm
> Size : 19737 License: GPL
> Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 16 Sep 2004 08:15:06 PM EDT, Key ID
> ae52a76d73307de6Summary : A tool to set the stop/start of system
> services in a runlevel.
> Description :
> Ntsysv provides a simple interface for setting which system services
> are started or stopped in various runlevels (instead of directly
> manipulating the numerous symbolic links in /etc/rc.d). Unless you
> specify a runlevel or runlevels on the command line (see the man
> page), ntsysv configures the current runlevel (5 if you're using X).
>
>
> Try 'yum install ntsysv'.
>
> Tres.
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From WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info Mon Nov 1 17:11:59 2004
From: WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 12:11:59 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To: <418563B1.6050804@knology.net>
References: <009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask> <418563B1.6050804@knology.net>
Message-ID: <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
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Daniel J. Summers wrote:
===
> Maybe so - but at this point, it's too late. The addresses are out
> there, cached and shared. I don't think that a change to this list
> would in any way curb the amount of spam that its subscribers receive.
===
True, not any of the current subscribers with their current e-mail
addresses. But new subscribers and those who can change their
subscription e-mail addresses would benefit.
Just five hours ago I received another spam to the address I use
soley for the WBEL mailing lists. I've already changed my address once
from "WBEL-User..." and am thinking of changing it again to
"WBEL-User03..."
- --
Bernie Hoefer
PGP e-mail is welcome. Get my 1024 bit signature key from:
.
"The more I know, the more I realize how much I do not understand."
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From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Mon Nov 1 23:12:18 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:12:18 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] startup control
In-Reply-To: <4186690D.3080901@wsieurope.com>
References: <032501c4c028$a033a320$6301a8c0@lc>
<418663A0.5050807@wsieurope.com> <418667E2.8070501@zope.com>
<4186690D.3080901@wsieurope.com>
Message-ID: <1099350738.21813.4.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 16:49 +0000, Graham Purcocks wrote:
> So now I've learned.
>
> So the answer is -
>
> use
>
> redhat-config-services
>
I continue to use chkconfig ... i mean, how hard is:
chkconfig --list mysql
or
chkconfig --level 2345 mysql on
chkconfig --level 016 mysql off
{most of my servers don't have GUI installed...heck, most don't even
have a monitor or keyboard :), and chkconfig works well enough that I
don't need to install a GUI, monitor, keyboard and mouse and use
redhat-config-services}
> which have been the prefered tools since RH9
>
> locate redhat-config
>
> and see the plethora of other useful tools.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks Tres for the history lesson :)
>
> Graham
>
> Tres Seaver wrote:
> > Graham Purcocks wrote:
> >
> >> I've always used chkconfig myself. I've use RedHat for years and never
> >> heard of ntsysv. but you live and learn.
> >
> >
> > 'ntsysv' was a console GUI application, similar to the X-based
> > 'redhat-config-services' GUI.
> >
> >> Jim Kunkel wrote:
> >>
> >>> In RedHat distros that I have used, processes that start at boot time
> >>> are enabled/disabled by a utility, "ntsysv"
> >>>
> >>> What is the corresponding utility in WBEL?
> >
> >
> > # uname -a
> > Linux xyz.example.com 2.4.21-15.0.4.EL #1 Wed Aug 4 13:47:17 EDT 2004
> > i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
> > [root@xyz root]# rpm -qi ntsysv
> > Name : ntsysv Relocations: (not relocatable)
> > Version : 1.3.11 Vendor: whiteboxlinux.org
> > Release : 0.3 Build Date: Tue 14 Sep 2004
> > 02:33:39 PM EDT
> > Install Date: Mon 20 Sep 2004 06:06:40 AM EDT Build Host:
> > bob.whiteboxlinux.org
> > Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM:
> > chkconfig-1.3.11-0.3.src.rpm
> > Size : 19737 License: GPL
> > Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 16 Sep 2004 08:15:06 PM EDT, Key ID
> > ae52a76d73307de6Summary : A tool to set the stop/start of system
> > services in a runlevel.
> > Description :
> > Ntsysv provides a simple interface for setting which system services
> > are started or stopped in various runlevels (instead of directly
> > manipulating the numerous symbolic links in /etc/rc.d). Unless you
> > specify a runlevel or runlevels on the command line (see the man
> > page), ntsysv configures the current runlevel (5 if you're using X).
> >
> >
> > Try 'yum install ntsysv'.
> >
> > Tres.
-----------------------
Johnny Hughes
From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Mon Nov 1 23:16:49 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:16:49 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To: <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
References:
<009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask> <418563B1.6050804@knology.net>
<41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
Message-ID: <1099351009.21808.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 12:11 -0500, Bernie Hoefer wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Daniel J. Summers wrote:
> ===
> > Maybe so - but at this point, it's too late. The addresses are out
> > there, cached and shared. I don't think that a change to this list
> > would in any way curb the amount of spam that its subscribers receive.
> ===
> True, not any of the current subscribers with their current e-mail
> addresses. But new subscribers and those who can change their
> subscription e-mail addresses would benefit.
> Just five hours ago I received another spam to the address I use
> soley for the WBEL mailing lists. I've already changed my address once
> from "WBEL-User..." and am thinking of changing it again to
> "WBEL-User03..."
>
> - --
> Bernie Hoefer
I hate to be a stick in the mud, but as soon as one of the list members
get a virus (and several of them have), the spam guys get all our e-mail
addresses anyway. I have SpamAssassin running on my mail server, which
deletes all but 1 or 2 spam e-mails per month.
-----------------------
Johnny Hughes
From doobeh@thefort.org Mon Nov 1 23:17:20 2004
From: doobeh@thefort.org (Anthony Plunkett)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:17:20 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To: <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
References: <009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask> <418563B1.6050804@knology.net> <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
Message-ID: <4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
Bernie Hoefer wrote:
> True, not any of the current subscribers with their current e-mail
>addresses. But new subscribers and those who can change their
>subscription e-mail addresses would benefit.
> Just five hours ago I received another spam to the address I use
>soley for the WBEL mailing lists. I've already changed my address once
>from "WBEL-User..." and am thinking of changing it again to
>"WBEL-User03..."
>
>
>
How about setting a simple filter on your beau.org emails? If your inbound account is solely used for beau purposes, set a simple filter like "If subject doesnt contain [WBEL-users]" bin, or if CC: to From: != beau then bin too. I realise it would be better if the email's weren't parseable from the pages and something should be done for the future members of the list, but really dealing with spam is pretty trivial thesedays.
Anthony Plunkett.
"If we can't play God, who will?"
From dave@58ghz.net Mon Nov 1 23:24:24 2004
From: dave@58ghz.net (Dave J. Hala Jr.)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:24:24 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To: <4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
References:
<009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask> <418563B1.6050804@knology.net>
<41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info> <4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
Message-ID: <1099351463.24111.187.camel@dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
Changing the way the list is managed is *not* going to have any
significant impact on the amount spam you receive. Maybe we should drop
this subject...
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 17:17, Anthony Plunkett wrote:
> Bernie Hoefer wrote:
>
> > True, not any of the current subscribers with their current e-mail
> >addresses. But new subscribers and those who can change their
> >subscription e-mail addresses would benefit.
> > Just five hours ago I received another spam to the address I use
> >soley for the WBEL mailing lists. I've already changed my address once
> >from "WBEL-User..." and am thinking of changing it again to
> >"WBEL-User03..."
> >
> >
> >
> How about setting a simple filter on your beau.org emails? If your inbound account is solely used for beau purposes, set a simple filter like "If subject doesnt contain [WBEL-users]" bin, or if CC: to From: != beau then bin too. I realise it would be better if the email's weren't parseable from the pages and something should be done for the future members of the list, but really dealing with spam is pretty trivial thesedays.
>
> Anthony Plunkett.
>
>
> "If we can't play God, who will?"
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
--
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Dave J. Hala Jr.
641.485.1606
From emorrison@ncen.org Tue Nov 2 00:25:11 2004
From: emorrison@ncen.org (Ed Morrison)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:25:11 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Still killing me softly with mon
In-Reply-To: <1095196883.8837.69.camel@whited.northcentralcounties.org>
Message-ID: <004e01c4c072$6c7d9230$54c077cc@northcentralcounties.org>
Hi Everyone,
Sorry it's taken so long to reply to those of you that have helped me with
my mon problems, life interfered with my ability to deal with this for
awhile. Anyway, I have attached a guide (I use the term loosely) to show
how to install mon. I have no doubts that those of you who helped me do not
need this. I'm tired of being a consumer of everyone else's thought power
and hard work and post this as a way of contributing to the list. I hope
this helps someone out there that might be interested in running mon to
watch their network. That said, I no longer use the web interface for this
and I have not included any web configuration for it.
Ed
If there is any interest I will do the same for MRTG.....
I performed a minimal install of WBEL as described by Johnny Hughes Jr. with
the exception of adding the gcc compiler tools at installation. Johnny's
Guide can be found at: http://www.hughesjr.com/content/view/27/30/Guides
Once the installation and upgrade are complete:
cd /usr/local/src/
wget http://linux.voyager.hr/fping/fping-2.2b1-1.i386.rpm
rpm -Uvh fping-2.2b1-1.i386.rpm
cp /usr/sbin/fping /usr/bin
perl -MCPAN -e 'install Time::HiRes'
cd /root/.cpan/builds/Time-HiRes* (the current version of Time-HiRes)
unset LANG ; perl Makefile.PL
make
make install
perl -MCPAN -e 'install Time::Period'
perl -MCPAN -e 'install Convert::BER'
perl -MCPAN -e 'install Mon::SNMP'
cd /usr/lib/
wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/admin/mon/mon-0.99.2.tar.gz
tar -zvxf mon-0.99.2.tar.gz
rm mon-*.tar.gz
mv mon-* mon
cd mon
mkdir /usr/lib/mon/log.d
mkdir /etc/mon
cp etc/example.cf /etc/mon/mon.cf
vi /etc/mon/mon.cf
Modify the mon configuration for your network environment and add all the
hosts you are going to monitor to your hosts file.
For autostart of mon on boot up:
vi /etc/rc.local
/usr/lib/mon/mon
To manually start mon
/usr/lib/mon/mon
From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Nov 2 02:17:47 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:17:47 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Advanced LAMP configuration(s)
Message-ID: <1099361867.21808.38.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 08:37 -0500, Dave Nuttall wrote:
> I’ve been experimenting with WBEL 3.0 for 10+ days and have no
> philosophical differences with the basic premise of a highly
> reliable/stable production quality distro.
>
>
>
> However, it seems like some serious advances in the LAMP model will be
> still further down the road while we wait for RHEL to catch up. In
> my view, I can support going quite slowly with regard to the kernel,
> but see no reason why moving to MySQL 4.x and a PHP version > 4.3.2
> couldn’t be mashed on top of WBEL without causing serious harm. But
> DOING it is quite another matter, at least in my recent experiments.
>
>
>
> My experiments have been base-lined using HughesJR.com’s “minimal
> install” suggestions plus “yum update” with whatever comes with the
> most vanilla installation.
>
>
>
> That leaves numerous missing “devel” packages, but that’s life and
> I’ve been able to ferret those that are missing by starting with a
> fresh-from-Fedora-development SRPM for httpd-2.0.52.
>
>
>
> I can reach a point where I can build, install and run Apache 2.0.52
> on the “minimal install PLUS”. Its not hard, but quite time
> consuming!
>
>
>
> My next success was taking the SRPM for MySQL 4.0.20 from mysql.com
> and compiling it. Again, No problem, although some packages for perl,
> etc. have to be added before it builds correctly/completely.
>
>
>
> But the last step(s) have nearly driven to drink. Those steps are
> building PHP 4.3.9, again using a SRPM from Fedora development.
>
>
>
> If you actually try to do this on your systems, by now you’ll already
> know that there are mandatory updates to packages such as “pcre” and
> “apr” that are required. Also, you have to move from “file-3*” to
> “file-4*”, etc, etc, etc.
>
>
>
> All this leads me to think that “somewhere” there must be some kind of
> document/knowledge collection that “maps” the hierarchical nature of
> all these many interdependent RHEL/Fedora/WBEL, etc. packages.
>
>
>
> If you have a recipe to solve this “dilemma” I’ve created for myself
> and/or know where to find the package relationship map, I would be
> eternally grateful if you’d share that with me, either privately or
> publically.
>
>
>
> TIA.
>
> Dave Nuttall
>
> San Antonio, TX
I have been working on this issue, and I have completed the following
components for those who want try some newer stuff:
httpd-2.0.52-3
php-5.0.2-1.EL
MySQL-4.1.7-0
Details on how to compile them yourself and how to install are on my forum:
http://www.hughesjr.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,65/page,viewtopic/t,8/#27
I don't necessarily intend to maintain these programs by doing security
updates, although the complete build process including all dependencies
required to build each SRPM is included in the forum.
-----------------------
Johnny Hughes
From offline.2800382@bloglines.com Tue Nov 2 02:49:43 2004
From: offline.2800382@bloglines.com (offline.2800382@bloglines.com)
Date: 2 Nov 2004 02:49:43 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Evolution 2.0
Message-ID: <1099363783.916067219.28725.sendItem@bloglines.com>
Is there a yum repository anywhere that is A) faster than the current molasses-in-januray
defaults, and B) has evolution-2.0.2 in it somewhere?
From WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info Tue Nov 2 04:42:24 2004
From: WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:42:24 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To: <4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
References: <009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask> <418563B1.6050804@knology.net> <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info> <4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
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Anthony Plunkett wrote:
===
> How about setting a simple filter on your beau.org emails? If your
===
Thanks for the suggestion. That is essentially what I'm doing now.
Again, the spam problem isn't so bad I'm wailing and grinding my
teeth. I just saw Thomas Knoop's posting on Friday, October 29, 2004
09:08:37 +0200 requesting the e-mail archives have the e-mail addresses
munged, and thought I'd post a "me too" message.
- --
Bernie Hoefer
PGP e-mail is welcome. Get my 1024 bit signature key from:
.
"The more I know, the more I realize how much I do not understand."
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From WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info Tue Nov 2 04:51:01 2004
From: WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:51:01 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To: <1099351463.24111.187.camel@dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
References: <009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask> <418563B1.6050804@knology.net> <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info> <4186C400.2040101@thefort.org> <1099351463.24111.187.camel@dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
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Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
===
> Changing the way the list is managed is *not* going to have any
> significant impact on the amount spam you receive. Maybe we should drop
> this subject...
===
Well, it was only a suggestion; one that a few of the subscribers
seem to share. I am thankful for the time, energy and resources the
Beauregard Parish Library & John Morris has put into WBEL. He can run
the list however he sees fit.
Consider the subject dropped.
- --
Bernie Hoefer
PGP e-mail is welcome. Get my 1024 bit signature key from:
.
"The more I know, the more I realize how much I do not understand."
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From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Nov 2 05:00:59 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:00:59 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Evolution 2.0
In-Reply-To: <1099363783.916067219.28725.sendItem@bloglines.com>
References: <1099363783.916067219.28725.sendItem@bloglines.com>
Message-ID: <1099371659.21808.46.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 02:49 +0000, offline.2800382@bloglines.com wrote:
> Is there a yum repository anywhere that is A) faster than the current molasses-in-januray
> defaults, and B) has evolution-2.0.2 in it somewhere?
I don't have a yum repository .. and I don't have evolution 2.0.2
compiled (yet).
I am looking at evolution 2.0.2 right now ... and it requires upgrades
to several GNOME components (to at least version 2.4) as well as mozilla
1.7.3 to compile.
I will work on compiling evolution 2.0.2-3 and see how it goes ... but I
think a full upgrade to GNOME 2.4 may be required. That would be a very
significant change for WBEL that is probably not practical.
-----------------------
Johnny Hughes
From psychoelmo Tue Nov 2 07:09:59 2004
From: psychoelmo (psychoelmo)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 01:09:59 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To: <41871235.3060507@TheMoreIKnow.info>
References:
<009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask>
<418563B1.6050804@knology.net> <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
<4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
<1099351463.24111.187.camel@dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
<41871235.3060507@TheMoreIKnow.info>
Message-ID:
with the giga-wars in the free email business, i'd suggest picking up
a gmail account for mailing lists, and only them (there's plenty of
sites offering invites w/o a catch). a gig of storage, message
threading, and easy searches, can't really beat it for list mail. the
ads? hardly notice them. most threads are longer than the first
screen, and the ads (text only) are only "above the fold".
i find it a great place to stash high-volume lists like debian's.
their spam filters aren't bad, they miss some though. they'll improve
over time, i suppose. most of the spam is actually sent to a list, not
to my address itself. i also like that i can look and google through
old list mails at home or at work. a heck of a lot easier than digging
through the actual list archive itself, especially if you're looking
for something but dont remember exactly which list it was in. but i
dread the time i have to go back and clean out old mail to make room
for more. they haven't implemented an easy way to delete quantities of
mail yet. (got a few months to go before i run out of space though :)
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Tue Nov 2 10:22:11 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:22:11 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] startup control
In-Reply-To: <1099350738.21813.4.camel@Myth.home.local>
References: <032501c4c028$a033a320$6301a8c0@lc> <418663A0.5050807@wsieurope.com> <418667E2.8070501@zope.com> <4186690D.3080901@wsieurope.com> <1099350738.21813.4.camel@Myth.home.local>
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True but the user asked for a replacement for a GUI version which there
is. I also use chkconfig but some like the confort of tools. Redhat
provide a load of them and all knowledge is useful. Its up the the user
which they want to use.
Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 16:49 +0000, Graham Purcocks wrote:
>
>>So now I've learned.
>>
>>So the answer is -
>>
>>use
>>
>>redhat-config-services
>>
>
> I continue to use chkconfig ... i mean, how hard is:
>
> chkconfig --list mysql
>
> or
>
> chkconfig --level 2345 mysql on
> chkconfig --level 016 mysql off
>
> {most of my servers don't have GUI installed...heck, most don't even
> have a monitor or keyboard :), and chkconfig works well enough that I
> don't need to install a GUI, monitor, keyboard and mouse and use
> redhat-config-services}
>
>
>>which have been the prefered tools since RH9
>>
>>locate redhat-config
>>
>>and see the plethora of other useful tools.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Thanks Tres for the history lesson :)
>>
>>Graham
>>
>>Tres Seaver wrote:
>>
>>>Graham Purcocks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've always used chkconfig myself. I've use RedHat for years and never
>>>>heard of ntsysv. but you live and learn.
>>>
>>>
>>>'ntsysv' was a console GUI application, similar to the X-based
>>>'redhat-config-services' GUI.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim Kunkel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In RedHat distros that I have used, processes that start at boot time
>>>>>are enabled/disabled by a utility, "ntsysv"
>>>>>
>>>>>What is the corresponding utility in WBEL?
>>>
>>>
>>># uname -a
>>>Linux xyz.example.com 2.4.21-15.0.4.EL #1 Wed Aug 4 13:47:17 EDT 2004
>>>i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
>>>[root@xyz root]# rpm -qi ntsysv
>>>Name : ntsysv Relocations: (not relocatable)
>>>Version : 1.3.11 Vendor: whiteboxlinux.org
>>>Release : 0.3 Build Date: Tue 14 Sep 2004
>>>02:33:39 PM EDT
>>>Install Date: Mon 20 Sep 2004 06:06:40 AM EDT Build Host:
>>>bob.whiteboxlinux.org
>>>Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM:
>>>chkconfig-1.3.11-0.3.src.rpm
>>>Size : 19737 License: GPL
>>>Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 16 Sep 2004 08:15:06 PM EDT, Key ID
>>>ae52a76d73307de6Summary : A tool to set the stop/start of system
>>>services in a runlevel.
>>>Description :
>>>Ntsysv provides a simple interface for setting which system services
>>>are started or stopped in various runlevels (instead of directly
>>>manipulating the numerous symbolic links in /etc/rc.d). Unless you
>>>specify a runlevel or runlevels on the command line (see the man
>>>page), ntsysv configures the current runlevel (5 if you're using X).
>>>
>>>
>>>Try 'yum install ntsysv'.
>>>
>>>Tres.
>
> -----------------------
> Johnny Hughes
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Tue Nov 2 12:26:27 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 06:26:27 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Evolution 2.0
In-Reply-To: <1099371659.21808.46.camel@Myth.home.local>
References: <1099363783.916067219.28725.sendItem@bloglines.com>
<1099371659.21808.46.camel@Myth.home.local>
Message-ID: <1099398387.21813.52.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 23:00 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 02:49 +0000, offline.2800382@bloglines.com wrote:
> > Is there a yum repository anywhere that is A) faster than the current molasses-in-januray
> > defaults, and B) has evolution-2.0.2 in it somewhere?
>
> I don't have a yum repository .. and I don't have evolution 2.0.2
> compiled (yet).
>
> I am looking at evolution 2.0.2 right now ... and it requires upgrades
> to several GNOME components (to at least version 2.4) as well as mozilla
> 1.7.3 to compile.
>
> I will work on compiling evolution 2.0.2-3 and see how it goes ... but I
> think a full upgrade to GNOME 2.4 may be required. That would be a very
> significant change for WBEL that is probably not practical.
Having played with this further, there are several GNOME components that
need to be at least 2.4 level, a couple others that need to be GNOME 2.6
level and a couple others that need to be GNOME 2.8 level.
Installing GNOME 2.8 on WBEL 3 is not practical ... you would have to
basically upgrade it to Fedora Core 3 ... so you might as well install
Fedora Core 3.
I'll continue to play with it and see if I can get a hodge-podge of only
the GNOME components required to install Evolution-2.0.2 to build and
run together, but I don't think it will work. I've been wrong before
though :)
Johnny Hughes
From rgm@htt-consult.com Tue Nov 2 13:12:36 2004
From: rgm@htt-consult.com (Robert Moskowitz)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:12:36 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] What your choice of Linux distribution says about you
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041102081159.0545e4a0@localhost>
So who wants to contribute the WB user description?
http://www.newsforge.com/articles/04/10/30/1322227.shtml?tid=149
From jean.lee@free.fr Tue Nov 2 13:36:19 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:36:19 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Where to start with an SSH server ?
Message-ID: <41878D53.4090905@free.fr>
Hello,
I want to implement a corporate ftp server using ssh.
Is OpenSSH a good choice ?
Do I have to use sshd or sshd_ftpserver ?
Where can I find a good documentation and tutorial for it ? I'm new and
I would like to understand how it works and not only how to use it.
More genrally, I am quite new to the network, file sharing over internet
and security problems and I would like to understand the differences
between FTP, SSH, TLS secured FTP, Kerberos, S/Keys, VPN, (Why not FTP
over VPN if it exists) and all the others that I don't know.... Is
there any existing documentation which explains the general usage of
these protocols and makes a comparison of usage, security and the
application (and why not make a comparison of avalaible binaries for each)?
Yes I know : I ask a lot :) but I'm a bit lost with all these abreviations.
Thanks for any help,
Jean Lee
From Benjamin J. Weiss"
Message-ID:
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to implement a corporate ftp server using ssh.
> Is OpenSSH a good choice ?
> Do I have to use sshd or sshd_ftpserver ?
> Where can I find a good documentation and tutorial for it ? I'm new and
> I would like to understand how it works and not only how to use it.
>
> More genrally, I am quite new to the network, file sharing over internet
> and security problems and I would like to understand the differences
> between FTP, SSH, TLS secured FTP, Kerberos, S/Keys, VPN, (Why not FTP
> over VPN if it exists) and all the others that I don't know.... Is
> there any existing documentation which explains the general usage of
> these protocols and makes a comparison of usage, security and the
> application (and why not make a comparison of avalaible binaries for each)?
> Yes I know : I ask a lot :) but I'm a bit lost with all these abreviations.
>
> Thanks for any help,
Jean,
The ssh (Secure SHell) daemon that comes with Redhat and Whitebox linux
also handles sftp (Secure File Transfer Protocol) and scp (Secure CoPy)
protocol. sftp is a good way to securely move or copy files back and
forth across a network.
The major problem with ftp is that the user name and password are sent "in
the clear", meaning non-encrypted. This means that anybody running a
sniffer on the network can get your user name and password, as well as
whatever files you're transmitting or receiving.
sftp encrypts the user name, password, and the file data, so you should be
safe. And the beauty of it is, you won't have to install any new software
on your linux box, as it comes installed by default!
You *do* need to make two changes to the configuration file, to make sure
that your ssh daemon is secure. You'll need to open /etc/ssh/sshd_config
and find the line that looks like:
# Protocol 2,1
and change it to look like
Protocol 2
This is because ssh protocol 1 has serious flaws and is insecure.
The other line that you should change is:
# PermitRootLogin yes
and change it to look like
PermitRootLogin no
This will keep out folks trying to hack your root login over the internet.
Once you've made these two changes and saved them, restart your ssh daemon
with the command:
service sshd restart
And you should be set.
WinSCP is a very good Windows sftp/scp client that I use all the time to
access my linux server. It's great for copying files, and can be found
at:
http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/
About the best ssh client (basically a secure telnet replacement) is
called PuTTY, and can be found at:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
These are my favorite ways of accessing my server securely.
Hope this helps!
Ben
From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Tue Nov 2 16:42:11 2004
From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:42:11 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] What your choice of Linux distribution says about you
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041102081159.0545e4a0@localhost>
Message-ID: <003e01c4c0fa$e6d544f0$1465a8c0@rustington.vets>
Newer converts to WBEL are mainly former Red Hat 9 users who felt like
they'd been dumped on prom night and for whom Red's cousin, Fedora,
seemed like too much of a wild child to take to the party.
L3K
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From reblair@operamail.com Tue Nov 2 16:35:18 2004
From: reblair@operamail.com (Robert E. Blair )
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:35:18 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Update Kernal on WB
Message-ID: <20041102163524.0F9C92B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com>
For the 2.6 kernels you need to address issues related to modules. Modules make a major change from 2.4 to 2.6 (even the extension changers from .o to .ko). If you want to be able to boot either you need to take several steps:
1) you need to upgrade your modutils (FC2 modutils is a plugin replacement for the WB3 one and will work with both old and new - 2.4 or 2.6 - kernels. If you follow this route
you will find that the 2.4 kernels use a legacy /etc/modules.conf and the 2.6 use /etc/modprobe.conf.
2) Some of the primary modules change names (keyboard, etc. as well as usb controllers). This means you need to hack the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit to deal with these changes on a per kernel basis.
3) For 2.6 the /proc file system is partly replaced by the /sys file system so again some per kernel customization is required.
If this doesn't scare you off then I have included my /etc/rc.sysinit /etc/fstab and /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt as examples (remember to make the /sys mountpoint i.e. mkdir /sys).
============= /etc/rc.sysinit ========================
#!/bin/bash
#
# /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit - run once at boot time
#
# Taken in part from Miquel van Smoorenburg's bcheckrc.
#
# Rerun ourselves through initlog
if [ -z "$IN_INITLOG" -a -x /sbin/initlog ]; then
exec /sbin/initlog $INITLOG_ARGS -r /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
fi
# If we're using devfs, start devfsd now - we need the old device names
[ -e /dev/.devfsd -a -x /sbin/devfsd ] && /sbin/devfsd /dev
HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/network ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/network
fi
if [ -z "$HOSTNAME" -o "$HOSTNAME" = "(none)" ]; then
HOSTNAME=localhost
fi
# Mount /proc (done here so volume labels can work with fsck)
mount -n -t proc /proc /proc
# for 2.6 mount /sys
kver=`uname -r|awk '{print substr($1, 0, 3)}'`
if [ $kver = "2.6" ] ; then
mount -n -t sysfs /sys /sys
fi
. /etc/init.d/functions
HOSTTYPE=`uname -m`
if [ "$HOSTTYPE" != "s390" -a "$HOSTTYPE" != "s390x" ]; then
last=0
for i in `LC_ALL=C grep '^[0-9].*respawn:/sbin/mingetty' /etc/inittab | sed 's/^.* tty\([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1/g'`; do
> /dev/tty$i
last=$i
done
if [ $last -gt 0 ]; then
> /dev/tty$((last+1))
> /dev/tty$((last+2))
fi
fi
if [ "$CONSOLETYPE" = "vt" -a -x /sbin/setsysfont ]; then
echo -n "Setting default font ($SYSFONT): "
/sbin/setsysfont
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
success
else
failure
fi
echo ; echo
fi
# Print a text banner.
echo -en $"\t\tWelcome to "
if LC_ALL=C grep -q "Red Hat" /etc/redhat-release ; then
[ "$BOOTUP" = "color" ] && echo -en "\\033[0;31m"
echo -en "Red Hat"
[ "$BOOTUP" = "color" ] && echo -en "\\033[0;39m"
PRODUCT=`sed "s/Red Hat \(.*\) release.*/\1/" /etc/redhat-release`
echo " $PRODUCT"
else
PRODUCT=`sed "s/ release.*//g" /etc/redhat-release`
echo "$PRODUCT"
fi
if [ "$PROMPT" != "no" ]; then
echo -en $"\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup."
echo
fi
# Fix console loglevel
if [ -n "$LOGLEVEL" ]; then
/bin/dmesg -n $LOGLEVEL
fi
# Start the graphical boot, if necessary; /usr may not be mounted yet, so we
# may have to do this again after mounting
RHGB_STARTED=0
mount -n /dev/pts
# Unmount the initrd, if necessary
if LC_ALL=C fgrep -q /initrd /proc/mounts && ! LC_ALL=C fgrep -q /initrd/loopfs /proc/mounts ; then
if [ -e /initrd/dev/.devfsd ]; then
umount /initrd/dev
fi
umount /initrd
/sbin/blockdev --flushbufs /dev/ram0 >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
if fgrep rhgb /proc/cmdline > /dev/null 2>&1 && [ "$BOOTUP" = "color" -a "$GRAPHICAL" = "yes" -a -x /usr/bin/rhgb ]; then
/usr/bin/rhgb
RHGB_STARTED=1
fi
# Configure kernel parameters
update_boot_stage RCkernelparam
action $"Configuring kernel parameters: " sysctl -e -p /etc/sysctl.conf
# Set the system clock.
update_boot_stage RCclock
ARC=0
SRM=0
UTC=0
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/clock ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/clock
# convert old style clock config to new values
if [ "${CLOCKMODE}" = "GMT" ]; then
UTC=true
elif [ "${CLOCKMODE}" = "ARC" ]; then
ARC=true
fi
fi
CLOCKDEF=""
CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS --hctosys"
case "$UTC" in
yes|true) CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS --utc"
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (utc)" ;;
no|false) CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS --localtime"
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (localtime)" ;;
esac
case "$ARC" in
yes|true) CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS --arc"
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (arc)" ;;
esac
case "$SRM" in
yes|true) CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS --srm"
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (srm)" ;;
esac
/sbin/hwclock $CLOCKFLAGS
action $"Setting clock $CLOCKDEF: `date`" date
if [ "$CONSOLETYPE" = "vt" -a -x /bin/loadkeys ]; then
KEYTABLE=
KEYMAP=
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/console/default.kmap ]; then
KEYMAP=/etc/sysconfig/console/default.kmap
else
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/keyboard ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/keyboard
fi
if [ -n "$KEYTABLE" -a -d "/lib/kbd/keymaps" ]; then
KEYMAP="$KEYTABLE.map"
fi
fi
if [ -n "$KEYMAP" ]; then
# Since this takes in/output from stdin/out, we can't use initlog
if [ -n "$KEYTABLE" ]; then
echo -n $"Loading default keymap ($KEYTABLE): "
else
echo -n $"Loading default keymap: "
fi
loadkeys $KEYMAP < /dev/tty0 > /dev/tty0 2>/dev/null && \
success $"Loading default keymap" || failure $"Loading default keymap"
echo
fi
fi
# Set the hostname.
update_boot_stage RChostname
action $"Setting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: " hostname ${HOSTNAME}
# Only read this once.
cmdline=$(cat /proc/cmdline)
# Initialize USB controller and HID devices
update_boot_stage RCusb
usb=0
aliases=`/sbin/modprobe -c | awk '/^alias usb-controller/ { print $3 }'|sort -u`
if ! strstr "$cmdline" nousb ; then
if [ $kver = "2.4" ];then
if ! LC_ALL=C grep -q "usb" /proc/devices 2>/dev/null ; then
if [ -n "$aliases" -a "$aliases" != "off" ]; then
modprobe usbcore
fi
for alias in $aliases ; do
[ "$alias" = "off" ] && continue
action $"Initializing USB controller ($alias): " modprobe $alias
done
[ $? -eq 0 -a -n "$aliases" ] && usb=1
fi
if [ $usb = 1 -a ! -f /proc/bus/usb/devices ]; then
action $"Mounting USB filesystem: " mount -t usbdevfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb
fi
else
if LC_ALL=C grep -q "usb" /proc/devices 2>/dev/null ; then
# fedora core 2 reports usb in the device list but still needs
# the modules loaded
usb=1
for alias in $aliases ; do
[ "$alias" = "off" ] && continue
action $"Initializing USB controller ($alias): " modprobe $alias
done
[ $? -ne 0 -o -z "$aliases" ] && usb=0
fi
if [ $usb = 1 -a ! -f /sys/bus/usb/devices ]; then
action $"Mounting USB filesystem: " mount -t usbdevfs usbdevfs /sys/bus/usb
fi
fi
needusbstorage=
if [ $usb = "1" ]; then
if [ $kver = "2.4" ]; then
needusbstorage=`LC_ALL=C grep -e "^I.*Cls=08" /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null`
LC_ALL=C grep 'hid' /proc/bus/usb/drivers || action $"Initializing USB HID interface: " modprobe hid 2> /dev/null
action $"Initializing USB keyboard: " modprobe keybdev 2> /dev/null
action $"Initializing USB mouse: " modprobe mousedev 2> /dev/null
else
needusbstorage=`LC_ALL=C grep -e "^I.*Cls=08" /sys/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null`
fi
fi
fi
if [ -f /fastboot ] || strstr "$cmdline" fastboot ; then
fastboot=yes
fi
if [ -f /fsckoptions ]; then
fsckoptions=`cat /fsckoptions`
fi
if [ -f /forcefsck ] || strstr "$cmdline" forcefsck ; then
fsckoptions="-f $fsckoptions"
elif [ -f /.autofsck ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
chvt 1
fi
echo $"Your system appears to have shut down uncleanly"
AUTOFSCK_TIMEOUT=5
[ -f /etc/sysconfig/autofsck ] && . /etc/sysconfig/autofsck
if [ "$AUTOFSCK_DEF_CHECK" = "yes" ]; then
AUTOFSCK_OPT=-f
fi
if [ "$PROMPT" != "no" ]; then
if [ "$AUTOFSCK_DEF_CHECK" = "yes" ]; then
if /sbin/getkey -c $AUTOFSCK_TIMEOUT -m $"Press N within %d seconds to not force file system integrity check..." n ; then
AUTOFSCK_OPT=
fi
else
if /sbin/getkey -c $AUTOFSCK_TIMEOUT -m $"Press Y within %d seconds to force file system integrity check..." y ; then
AUTOFSCK_OPT=-f
fi
fi
echo
else
# PROMPT not allowed
if [ "$AUTOFSCK_DEF_CHECK" = "yes" ]; then
echo $"Forcing file system integrity check due to default setting"
else
echo $"Not forcing file system integrity check due to default setting"
fi
fi
fsckoptions="$AUTOFSCK_OPT $fsckoptions"
fi
if [ "$BOOTUP" = "color" ]; then
fsckoptions="-C $fsckoptions"
else
fsckoptions="-V $fsckoptions"
fi
_RUN_QUOTACHECK=0
ROOTFSTYPE=`awk '/ \/ / && ($3 !~ /rootfs/) { print $3 }' /proc/mounts`
if [ -z "$fastboot" -a "X$ROOTFSTYPE" != "Xnfs" ]; then
STRING=$"Checking root filesystem"
echo $STRING
initlog -c "fsck -T -a / $fsckoptions"
rc=$?
if [ "$rc" = "0" ]; then
success "$STRING"
echo
elif [ "$rc" = "1" ]; then
passed "$STRING"
echo
fi
# A return of 2 or higher means there were serious problems.
if [ $rc -gt 1 ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
chvt 1
fi
failure "$STRING"
echo
echo
echo $"*** An error occurred during the file system check."
echo $"*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot"
echo $"*** when you leave the shell."
str=$"(Repair filesystem)"
PS1="$str \# # "; export PS1
sulogin
echo $"Unmounting file systems"
umount -a
mount -n -o remount,ro /
echo $"Automatic reboot in progress."
reboot -f
elif [ "$rc" = "1" ]; then
_RUN_QUOTACHECK=1
fi
fi
# Possibly update quotas if fsck was run on /.
LC_ALL=C grep -E '[[:space:]]+/[[:space:]]+' /etc/fstab | \
awk '{ print $4 }' | \
LC_ALL=C grep -q quota
_ROOT_HAS_QUOTA=$?
if [ X"$_RUN_QUOTACHECK" = X1 -a \
"$_ROOT_HAS_QUOTA" = "0" -a \
-x /sbin/quotacheck ]; then
if [ -x /sbin/convertquota ]; then
if [ -f /quota.user ]; then
action $"Converting old user quota files: " \
/sbin/convertquota -u / && rm -f /quota.user
fi
if [ -f /quota.group ]; then
action $"Converting old group quota files: " \
/sbin/convertquota -g / && rm -f /quota.group
fi
fi
action $"Checking root filesystem quotas: " /sbin/quotacheck -nug /
fi
if [ -x /sbin/isapnp -a -f /etc/isapnp.conf -a ! -f /proc/isapnp ]; then
# check for arguments passed from kernel
if ! strstr "$cmdline" nopnp ; then
PNP=yes
fi
if [ -n "$PNP" ]; then
action $"Setting up ISA PNP devices: " /sbin/isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf
else
action $"Skipping ISA PNP configuration at users request: " /bin/true
fi
fi
# Remount the root filesystem read-write.
update_boot_stage RCmountfs
state=`awk '/ \/ / && ($3 !~ /rootfs/) { print $4 }' /proc/mounts`
[ "$state" != "rw" ] && \
action $"Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode: " mount -n -o remount,rw /
# LVM initialization
if [ -f /etc/lvmtab ]; then
[ -e /proc/lvm ] || modprobe lvm-mod > /dev/null 2>&1
if [ -e /proc/lvm -a -x /sbin/vgchange ]; then
action $"Setting up Logical Volume Management:" /sbin/vgscan && /sbin/vgchange -a y
fi
fi
# Start up swapping.
update_boot_stage RCswap
action $"Activating swap partitions: " swapon -a -e
# Clear mtab
> /etc/mtab
# Remove stale backups
rm -f /etc/mtab~ /etc/mtab~~
# Enter root, /proc and (potentially) /proc/bus/usb and devfs into mtab.
mount -f /
mount -f /proc
# for 2.6 mount /sys
if [ $kver = "2.6" ] ; then
mount -f /sys
[ -f /sys/bus/usb/devices ] && mount -f -t usbdevfs usbdevfs /sys/bus/usb
else
[ -f /proc/bus/usb/devices ] && mount -f -t usbdevfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb
fi
mount -f /dev/pts
[ -e /dev/.devfsd ] && mount -f -t devfs devfs /dev
# The root filesystem is now read-write, so we can now log
# via syslog() directly..
if [ -n "$IN_INITLOG" ]; then
IN_INITLOG=
fi
if ! strstr "$cmdline" nomodules && [ -f /proc/modules ] ; then
USEMODULES=y
fi
unamer=`uname -r`
# Our modutils don't support it anymore, so we might as well remove
# the preferred link.
rm -f /lib/modules/preferred /lib/modules/default
if [ -x /sbin/depmod -a -n "$USEMODULES" ]; then
# If they aren't using a recent sane kernel, make a link for them
if ! strstr $unamer - ; then
ktag="`cat /proc/version`"
mtag=`LC_ALL=C grep -l "$ktag" /lib/modules/*/.rhkmvtag 2> /dev/null`
if [ -n "$mtag" ]; then
mver=`echo $mtag | sed -e 's,/lib/modules/,,' -e 's,/.rhkmvtag,,' -e 's,[ ].*$,,'`
fi
if [ -n "$mver" ]; then
ln -sf /lib/modules/$mver /lib/modules/default
fi
fi
if [ -L /lib/modules/default ]; then
INITLOG_ARGS= action $"Finding module dependencies: " depmod -A default
else
INITLOG_ARGS= action $"Finding module dependencies: " depmod -A
fi
fi
# tweak isapnp settings if needed.
if [ -n "$PNP" -a -f /proc/isapnp -a -x /sbin/sndconfig ]; then
/sbin/sndconfig --mungepnp >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
# Load sound modules if and only if they need persistent DMA buffers
if LC_ALL=C grep -q "options sound dmabuf=1" /etc/modules.conf 2>/dev/null ; then
alias=`/sbin/modprobe -c | awk '/^alias sound / { print $3 }'`
if [ -n "$alias" -a "$alias" != "off" ]; then
action $"Loading sound module ($alias): " modprobe sound
fi
alias=`/sbin/modprobe -c | awk '/^alias sound-slot-0 / { print $3 }'`
if [ -n "$alias" -a "$alias" != "off" ]; then
action $"Loading sound module ($alias): " modprobe sound-slot-0
fi
fi
if [ -f /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe ]; then
if [ -n "$USEMODULES" ]; then
sysctl -w kernel.modprobe="/sbin/modprobe" >/dev/null 2>&1
sysctl -w kernel.hotplug="/sbin/hotplug" >/dev/null 2>&1
else
# We used to set this to NULL, but that causes 'failed to exec' messages"
sysctl -w kernel.modprobe="/bin/true" >/dev/null 2>&1
sysctl -w kernel.hotplug="/bin/true" >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
fi
# Load modules (for backward compatibility with VARs)
if [ -f /etc/rc.modules ]; then
/etc/rc.modules
fi
update_boot_stage RCraid
if [ -f /etc/raidtab ]; then
# Add raid devices
[ -f /proc/mdstat ] || modprobe md >/dev/null 2>&1
if [ -f /proc/mdstat ]; then
echo -n $"Starting up RAID devices: "
rc=0
for i in `awk '{if ($1=="raiddev") print $2}' /etc/raidtab`
do
RAIDDEV=`basename $i`
RAIDSTAT=`LC_ALL=C grep "^$RAIDDEV : active" /proc/mdstat`
if [ -z "$RAIDSTAT" ]; then
# First scan the /etc/fstab for the "noauto"-flag
# for this device. If found, skip the initialization
# for it to avoid dropping to a shell on errors.
# If not, try raidstart...if that fails then
# fall back to raidadd, raidrun. If that
# also fails, then we drop to a shell
RESULT=1
INFSTAB=`LC_ALL=C grep -c "^$i" /etc/fstab`
if [ $INFSTAB -eq 0 ] ; then
RESULT=0
RAIDDEV="$RAIDDEV(skipped)"
fi
NOAUTO=`LC_ALL=C grep "^$i" /etc/fstab | LC_ALL=C grep -c "noauto"`
if [ $NOAUTO -gt 0 ]; then
RESULT=0
RAIDDEV="$RAIDDEV(skipped)"
fi
if [ $RESULT -gt 0 -a -x /sbin/raidstart ]; then
/sbin/raidstart $i
RESULT=$?
fi
if [ $RESULT -gt 0 -a -x /sbin/raid0run ]; then
/sbin/raid0run $i
RESULT=$?
fi
if [ $RESULT -gt 0 -a -x /sbin/raidadd -a -x /sbin/raidrun ]; then
/sbin/raidadd $i
/sbin/raidrun $i
RESULT=$?
fi
if [ $RESULT -gt 0 ]; then
rc=1
fi
echo -n "$RAIDDEV "
else
echo -n "$RAIDDEV "
fi
done
echo
# A non-zero return means there were problems.
if [ $rc -gt 0 ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
chvt 1
fi
echo
echo
echo $"*** An error occurred during the RAID startup"
echo $"*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot"
echo $"*** when you leave the shell."
str=$"(RAID Repair)"
PS1="$str \# # "; export PS1
sulogin
echo $"Unmounting file systems"
umount -a
mount -n -o remount,ro /
echo $"Automatic reboot in progress."
reboot -f
fi
# LVM initialization, take 2 (it could be on top of RAID)
if [ -e /proc/lvm -a -x /sbin/vgchange -a -f /etc/lvmtab ]; then
action $"Setting up Logical Volume Management:" /sbin/vgscan && /sbin/vgchange -a y
fi
fi
fi
if [ -x /sbin/devlabel ]; then
/sbin/devlabel restart
fi
_RUN_QUOTACHECK=0
# Check filesystems
if [ -z "$fastboot" ]; then
STRING=$"Checking filesystems"
echo $STRING
initlog -c "fsck -T -R -A -a $fsckoptions"
rc=$?
if [ "$rc" = "0" ]; then
success "$STRING"
echo
elif [ "$rc" = "1" ]; then
passed "$STRING"
echo
fi
# A return of 2 or higher means there were serious problems.
if [ $rc -gt 1 ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
chvt 1
fi
failure "$STRING"
echo
echo
echo $"*** An error occurred during the file system check."
echo $"*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot"
echo $"*** when you leave the shell."
str=$"(Repair filesystem)"
PS1="$str \# # "; export PS1
sulogin
echo $"Unmounting file systems"
umount -a
mount -n -o remount,ro /
echo $"Automatic reboot in progress."
reboot -f
elif [ "$rc" = "1" -a -x /sbin/quotacheck ]; then
_RUN_QUOTACHECK=1
fi
fi
# Mount all other filesystems (except for NFS and /proc, which is already
# mounted). Contrary to standard usage,
# filesystems are NOT unmounted in single user mode.
action $"Mounting local filesystems: " mount -a -t nonfs,smbfs,ncpfs,gfs -O no_netdev
# Start the graphical boot, if necessary and not done yet.
if fgrep rhgb /proc/cmdline > /dev/null 2>&1 && [ "$RHGB_STARTED" -eq 0 -a "$BOOTUP" = "color" -a "$GRAPHICAL" = "yes" -a -x /usr/bin/rhgb ]; then
/usr/bin/rhgb
RHGB_STARTED=1
fi
# check remaining quotas other than root
if [ X"$_RUN_QUOTACHECK" = X1 -a -x /sbin/quotacheck ]; then
if [ -x /sbin/convertquota ]; then
# try to convert old quotas
for mountpt in `awk '$4 ~ /quota/{print $2}' /etc/mtab` ; do
if [ -f "$mountpt/quota.user" ]; then
action $"Converting old user quota files: " \
/sbin/convertquota -u $mountpt && \
rm -f $mountpt/quota.user
fi
if [ -f "$mountpt/quota.group" ]; then
action $"Converting old group quota files: " \
/sbin/convertquota -g $mountpt && \
rm -f $mountpt/quota.group
fi
done
fi
action $"Checking local filesystem quotas: " /sbin/quotacheck -aRnug
fi
if [ -x /sbin/quotaon ]; then
action $"Enabling local filesystem quotas: " /sbin/quotaon -aug
fi
# Configure machine if necessary.
if [ -f /.unconfigured ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
chvt 1
fi
if [ -x /usr/sbin/kbdconfig ]; then
/usr/sbin/kbdconfig
fi
if [ -x /usr/bin/passwd ]; then
/usr/bin/passwd root
fi
if [ -x /usr/sbin/netconfig ]; then
/usr/sbin/netconfig
fi
if [ -x /usr/sbin/timeconfig ]; then
/usr/sbin/timeconfig
fi
if [ -x /usr/sbin/authconfig ]; then
/usr/sbin/authconfig --nostart
fi
if [ -x /usr/sbin/ntsysv ]; then
/usr/sbin/ntsysv --level 35
fi
# Reread in network configuration data.
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/network ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/network
# Reset the hostname.
action $"Resetting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: " hostname ${HOSTNAME}
fi
rm -f /.unconfigured
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
chvt 8
fi
fi
# Clean out /.
rm -f /fastboot /fsckoptions /forcefsck /.autofsck /halt /poweroff
# Do we need (w|u)tmpx files? We don't set them up, but the sysadmin might...
_NEED_XFILES=
[ -f /var/run/utmpx -o -f /var/log/wtmpx ] && _NEED_XFILES=1
# Clean up /var. I'd use find, but /usr may not be mounted.
for afile in /var/lock/* /var/run/* ; do
if [ -d "$afile" ]; then
case "$afile" in
*/news|*/mon) ;;
*/sudo|*/vmware) rm -f $afile/*/* ;;
*) rm -f $afile/* ;;
esac
else
rm -f $afile
fi
done
rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
# Reset pam_console permissions
[ -x /sbin/pam_console_apply ] && /sbin/pam_console_apply -r
{
# Clean up utmp/wtmp
> /var/run/utmp
touch /var/log/wtmp
chgrp utmp /var/run/utmp /var/log/wtmp
chmod 0664 /var/run/utmp /var/log/wtmp
if [ -n "$_NEED_XFILES" ]; then
> /var/run/utmpx
touch /var/log/wtmpx
chgrp utmp /var/run/utmpx /var/log/wtmpx
chmod 0664 /var/run/utmpx /var/log/wtmpx
fi
# Delete X locks
rm -f /tmp/.X*-lock
# Delete VNC & X locks
rm -rf /tmp/.X*-unix
# Delete ICE locks
rm -rf /tmp/.ICE-unix
# Make ICE directory
mkdir -m 1777 -p /tmp/.ICE-unix >/dev/null 2>&1
chown root:root /tmp/.ICE-unix
# Delete Postgres sockets
rm -f /tmp/.s.PGSQL.*
# Now turn on swap in case we swap to files.
swapon -a
action $"Enabling swap space: " /bin/true
# Initialize the serial ports.
if [ -f /etc/rc.serial ]; then
. /etc/rc.serial
fi
# If a SCSI tape has been detected, load the st module unconditionally
# since many SCSI tapes don't deal well with st being loaded and unloaded
if [ -f /proc/scsi/scsi -a -n "$USEMODULES" ]; then
if LC_ALL=C grep -q 'Type: Sequential-Access' /proc/scsi/scsi 2>/dev/null ; then
if LC_ALL=C grep -qv ' 9 st' /proc/devices ; then
modprobe st >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
fi
fi
# Load usb storage here, to match most other things
if [ -n "$needusbstorage" ]; then
modprobe usb-storage >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
# Ooh, firewire too.
if ! strstr "$cmdline" nofirewire ; then
aliases=`/sbin/modprobe -c | awk '/^alias ieee1394-controller/ { print $3 }'`
if [ -n "$aliases" -a "$aliases" != "off" ]; then
for alias in $aliases ; do
[ "$alias" = "off" ] && continue
action $"Initializing firewire controller ($alias): " modprobe $alias
done
if [ $kver = "2.4" ] ; then
LC_ALL=C grep -q "SBP2" /proc/bus/ieee1394/devices 2>/dev/null && \
modprobe sbp2 >/dev/null 2>&1
else
LC_ALL=C grep -q "SBP2" /sys/bus/ieee1394/devices 2>/dev/null && \
modprobe sbp2 >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
fi
fi
# If they asked for ide-scsi, load it
if strstr "$cmdline" ide-scsi ; then
modprobe ide-cd >/dev/null 2>&1
modprobe ide-scsi >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
# Turn on harddisk optimization
# There is only one file /etc/sysconfig/harddisks for all disks
# after installing the hdparm-RPM. If you need different hdparm parameters
# for each of your disks, copy /etc/sysconfig/harddisks to
# /etc/sysconfig/harddiskhda (hdb, hdc...) and modify it.
# Each disk which has no special parameters will use the defaults.
# Each non-disk which has no special parameters will be ignored.
#
disk[0]=s;
disk[1]=hda; disk[2]=hdb; disk[3]=hdc; disk[4]=hdd;
disk[5]=hde; disk[6]=hdf; disk[7]=hdg; disk[8]=hdh;
disk[9]=hdi; disk[10]=hdj; disk[11]=hdk; disk[12]=hdl;
disk[13]=hdm; disk[14]=hdn; disk[15]=hdo; disk[16]=hdp;
disk[17]=hdq; disk[18]=hdr; disk[19]=hds; disk[20]=hdt;
if [ -x /sbin/hdparm ]; then
for device in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20; do
unset MULTIPLE_IO USE_DMA EIDE_32BIT LOOKAHEAD EXTRA_PARAMS
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/harddisk${disk[$device]} ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/harddisk${disk[$device]}
HDFLAGS[$device]=
if [ -n "$MULTIPLE_IO" ]; then
HDFLAGS[$device]="-q -m$MULTIPLE_IO"
fi
if [ -n "$USE_DMA" ]; then
HDFLAGS[$device]="${HDFLAGS[$device]} -q -d$USE_DMA"
fi
if [ -n "$EIDE_32BIT" ]; then
HDFLAGS[$device]="${HDFLAGS[$device]} -q -c$EIDE_32BIT"
fi
if [ -n "$LOOKAHEAD" ]; then
HDFLAGS[$device]="${HDFLAGS[$device]} -q -A$LOOKAHEAD"
fi
if [ -n "$EXTRA_PARAMS" ]; then
HDFLAGS[$device]="${HDFLAGS[$device]} $EXTRA_PARAMS"
fi
else
HDFLAGS[$device]="${HDFLAGS[0]}"
fi
if [ -e "/proc/ide/${disk[$device]}/media" ]; then
hdmedia=`cat /proc/ide/${disk[$device]}/media`
if [ "$hdmedia" = "disk" -o -f "/etc/sysconfig/harddisk${disk[$device]}" ]; then
if [ -n "${HDFLAGS[$device]}" ]; then
action $"Setting hard drive parameters for ${disk[$device]}: " /sbin/hdparm ${HDFLAGS[$device]} /dev/${disk[$device]}
fi
fi
fi
done
fi
# Boot time profiles. Yes, this should be somewhere else.
if [ -x /usr/sbin/redhat-config-network-cmd ]; then
if strstr "$cmdline" netprofile= ; then
for arg in $cmdline ; do
if [ "${arg##netprofile=}" != "${arg}" ]; then
/usr/sbin/redhat-config-network-cmd --profile ${arg##netprofile=}
fi
done
fi
fi
# Generate a header that defines the boot kernel.
/sbin/mkkerneldoth
# Adjust symlinks as necessary in /boot to keep system services from
# spewing messages about mismatched System maps and so on.
if [ -L /boot/System.map -a -r /boot/System.map-$unamer -a \
! /boot/System.map -ef /boot/System.map-$unamer ]; then
ln -s -f System.map-$unamer /boot/System.map
fi
if [ ! -e /boot/System.map -a -r /boot/System.map-$unamer ]; then
ln -s -f System.map-$unamer /boot/System.map
fi
# The special Red Hat kernel library symlink must point to the right library
# We need to deal with cases where there is no library, and we need to
# deal with any version numbers that show up.
shopt -s nullglob
for library in /lib/kernel/$unamer/libredhat-kernel.so* ; do
ln -f $library /lib/
ldconfig -n /lib/
done
shopt -u nullglob
# Now that we have all of our basic modules loaded and the kernel going,
# let's dump the syslog ring somewhere so we can find it later
dmesg -s 131072 > /var/log/dmesg
# Also keep kernel symbols around in case we need them for debugging
i=5
while [ $i -ge 0 ]; do
if [ -f /var/log/ksyms.$i ]; then
chmod 0600 /var/log/ksyms.$i
mv /var/log/ksyms.$i /var/log/ksyms.$(($i+1))
fi
i=$(($i-1))
done
{ date
uname -a
cat /proc/cpuinfo
[ -r /proc/modules ] && cat /proc/modules
[ -r /proc/ksyms ] && cat /proc/ksyms
} > /var/log/ksyms.0
chmod 600 /var/log/ksyms.0
# create the crash indicator flag to warn on crashes, offer fsck with timeout
touch /.autofsck
kill -TERM `/sbin/pidof getkey` >/dev/null 2>&1
} &
if strstr "$cmdline" confirm ; then
touch /var/run/confirm
fi
if [ "$PROMPT" != "no" ]; then
/sbin/getkey i && touch /var/run/confirm
fi
wait
if [ -x /sbin/redhat-support-check -a -f /var/lib/supportinfo ]; then
/sbin/redhat-support-check || {
echo $"Normal startup will continue in 10 seconds."
sleep 10
}
fi
# Let rhgb know that we're leaving rc.sysinit
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
/usr/bin/rhgb-client --sysinit
fi
================ end /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit ===========
================ begin /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt =========
#!/bin/bash
#
# halt This file is executed by init when it goes into runlevel
# 0 (halt) or runlevel 6 (reboot). It kills all processes,
# unmounts file systems and then either halts or reboots.
#
# Author: Miquel van Smoorenburg,
# Modified for RHS Linux by Damien Neil
#
NOLOCALE=1
. /etc/init.d/functions
runcmd() {
echo -n "$1 "
shift
if [ "$BOOTUP" = "color" ]; then
$* && echo_success || echo_failure
else
$*
fi
echo
}
halt_get_remaining() {
if ( uname -r |grep ^2.6.>/dev/null ) ; then
awk '$2 ~ /^\/$|^\/proc|^\/sys|^\/dev/{next}
$3 == "tmpfs" || $3 == "proc" {print $2 ; next}
/(^#|loopfs|autofs|devfs|^none|^\/dev\/ram|^\/dev\/root)/ {next}
{print $2}' /proc/mounts
else
awk '$2 ~ /^\/$|^\/proc|^\/dev/{next}
$3 == "tmpfs" || $3 == "proc" {print $2 ; next}
/(^#|loopfs|autofs|devfs|^none|^\/dev\/ram|^\/dev\/root)/ {next}
{print $2}' /proc/mounts
fi
}
# See how we were called.
case "$0" in
*halt)
message=$"Halting system..."
command="/sbin/halt"
;;
*reboot)
message=$"Please stand by while rebooting the system..."
command="/sbin/reboot"
;;
*)
echo $"$0: call me as 'halt' or 'reboot' please!"
exit 1
;;
esac
case "$1" in
*start)
;;
*)
echo $"Usage: $0 {start}"
exit 1
;;
esac
# Kill all processes.
[ "${BASH+bash}" = bash ] && enable kill
runcmd $"Sending all processes the TERM signal..." /sbin/killall5 -15
sleep 5
runcmd $"Sending all processes the KILL signal..." /sbin/killall5 -9
# Write to wtmp file before unmounting /var
/sbin/halt -w
# Save mixer settings, here for lack of a better place.
grep -q "\(sparcaudio\|sound\)" /proc/devices
if [ $? = 0 -a -x /bin/aumix-minimal ]; then
runcmd $"Saving mixer settings" /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S
fi
# Sync the system clock.
ARC=0
SRM=0
UTC=0
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/clock ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/clock
# convert old style clock config to new values
if [ "${CLOCKMODE}" = "GMT" ]; then
UTC=true
elif [ "${CLOCKMODE}" = "ARC" ]; then
ARC=true
fi
fi
CLOCKDEF=""
CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS --systohc"
case "$UTC" in
yes|true)
CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS -u";
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (utc)";
;;
no|false)
CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS --localtime";
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (localtime)";
;;
esac
case "$ARC" in
yes|true)
CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS -A";
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (arc)";
;;
esac
case "$SRM" in
yes|true)
CLOCKFLAGS="$CLOCKFLAGS -S";
CLOCKDEF="$CLOCKDEF (srm)";
;;
esac
runcmd $"Syncing hardware clock to system time" /sbin/hwclock $CLOCKFLAGS
# Turn off swap, then unmount file systems.
SWAPS=`awk '! /^Filename/ { print $1 }' /proc/swaps`
[ -n "$SWAPS" ] && runcmd $"Turning off swap: " swapoff $SWAPS
[ -x /sbin/quotaoff ] && runcmd $"Turning off quotas: " /sbin/quotaoff -aug
# Unmount file systems, killing processes if we have to.
# Unmount loopback stuff first
remaining=`awk '!/^#/ && $1 ~ /^\/dev\/loop/ && $2 != "/" {print $2}' /proc/mounts`
devremaining=`awk '!/^#/ && $1 ~ /^\/dev\/loop/ && $2 != "/" {print $1}' /proc/mounts`
[ -n "$remaining" ] && {
sig=
retry=3
while [ -n "$remaining" -a "$retry" -gt 0 ]
do
if [ "$retry" -lt 3 ]; then
runcmd $"Unmounting loopback filesystems (retry):" umount $remaining
else
runcmd $"Unmounting loopback filesystems: " umount $remaining
fi
for dev in $devremaining ; do
losetup $dev > /dev/null 2>&1 && \
runcmd $"Detaching loopback device $dev: " losetup -d $dev
done
remaining=`awk '!/^#/ && $1 ~ /^\/dev\/loop/ && $2 != "/" {print $2}' /proc/mounts`
devremaining=`awk '!/^#/ && $1 ~ /^\/dev\/loop/ && $2 != "/" {print $1}' /proc/mounts`
[ -z "$remaining" ] && break
/sbin/fuser -k -m $sig $remaining >/dev/null
sleep 5
retry=$(($retry -1))
sig=-9
done
}
sig=
retry=3
remaining=`halt_get_remaining | sort -r`
while [ -n "$remaining" -a "$retry" -gt 0 ]
do
if [ "$retry" -lt 3 ]; then
LANG=C runcmd $"Unmounting file systems (retry): " umount -f $remaining
else
LANG=C runcmd $"Unmounting file systems: " umount -f $remaining
fi
sleep 2
remaining=`halt_get_remaining | sort -r`
[ -z "$remaining" ] && break
/sbin/fuser -k -m $sig $remaining >/dev/null
sleep 5
retry=$(($retry-1))
sig=-9
done
[ -f /proc/bus/usb/devices ] && umount /proc/bus/usb
[ -f /sys/bus/usb/devices ] && umount /sys/bus/usb
# remove the crash indicator flag
rm -f /.autofsck
# Try all file systems other than root and RAM disks, one last time.
mount | awk '!/( \/ |^\/dev\/root|^\/dev\/ram| \/proc )/ { print $3 }' | \
while read line; do
umount -f $line
done
# Remount read only anything that's left mounted.
# echo $"Remounting remaining filesystems readonly"
mount | awk '{ print $3 }' | while read line; do
mount -n -o ro,remount $line
done
# Now halt or reboot.
echo $"$message"
if [ -f /fastboot ]; then
echo $"On the next boot fsck will be skipped."
elif [ -f /forcefsck ]; then
echo $"On the next boot fsck will be forced."
fi
if [ "$command" = /sbin/halt -a -r /etc/ups/upsmon.conf -a -f /etc/killpower -a -f /etc/sysconfig/ups ] ; then
. /etc/sysconfig/ups
[ "$SERVER" = "yes" -a "$MODEL" != "NONE" -a -n "$MODEL" -a -n "$DEVICE" ] && $MODEL $OPTIONS_HALT -k $DEVICE
fi
if [ -x /sbin/halt.local ]; then
/sbin/halt.local
fi
HALTARGS="-i -d"
[ -f /poweroff -o ! -f /halt ] && HALTARGS="$HALTARGS -p"
exec $command $HALTARGS
================== end /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt ============
================= line to add to /etc/fstab
none /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
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From Mickael Maddison Tue Nov 2 16:45:19 2004
From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:45:19 -0800
Subject: Re[2]: [WBEL-users] Where to start with an SSH server ?
In-Reply-To:
References: <41878D53.4090905@free.fr>
Message-ID: <11310642694.20041102084519@kamloopsbc.com>
Hello!
Some companies are promoting SSH servers that offer per-user directory controls for SFTP, something along the lines of what we do now with FTP.
Does anyone know if/how we can achieve that result?
Mike
Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 6:48:34 AM, you wrote:
BJW> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Jean Lee wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to implement a corporate ftp server using ssh.
>> Is OpenSSH a good choice ?
>> Do I have to use sshd or sshd_ftpserver ?
>> Where can I find a good documentation and tutorial for it ? I'm new and
>> I would like to understand how it works and not only how to use it.
>>
>> More genrally, I am quite new to the network, file sharing over internet
>> and security problems and I would like to understand the differences
>> between FTP, SSH, TLS secured FTP, Kerberos, S/Keys, VPN, (Why not FTP
>> over VPN if it exists) and all the others that I don't know.... Is
>> there any existing documentation which explains the general usage of
>> these protocols and makes a comparison of usage, security and the
>> application (and why not make a comparison of avalaible binaries for each)?
>> Yes I know : I ask a lot :) but I'm a bit lost with all these abreviations.
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
BJW> Jean,
BJW> The ssh (Secure SHell) daemon that comes with Redhat and Whitebox linux
BJW> also handles sftp (Secure File Transfer Protocol) and scp (Secure CoPy)
BJW> protocol. sftp is a good way to securely move or copy files back and
BJW> forth across a network.
BJW> The major problem with ftp is that the user name and password are sent "in
BJW> the clear", meaning non-encrypted. This means that anybody running a
BJW> sniffer on the network can get your user name and password, as well as
BJW> whatever files you're transmitting or receiving.
BJW> sftp encrypts the user name, password, and the file data, so you should be
BJW> safe. And the beauty of it is, you won't have to install any new software
BJW> on your linux box, as it comes installed by default!
BJW> You *do* need to make two changes to the configuration file, to make sure
BJW> that your ssh daemon is secure. You'll need to open /etc/ssh/sshd_config
BJW> and find the line that looks like:
BJW> # Protocol 2,1
BJW> and change it to look like
BJW> Protocol 2
BJW> This is because ssh protocol 1 has serious flaws and is insecure.
BJW> The other line that you should change is:
BJW> # PermitRootLogin yes
BJW> and change it to look like
BJW> PermitRootLogin no
BJW> This will keep out folks trying to hack your root login over the internet.
BJW> Once you've made these two changes and saved them, restart your ssh daemon
BJW> with the command:
BJW> service sshd restart
BJW> And you should be set.
BJW> WinSCP is a very good Windows sftp/scp client that I use all the time to
BJW> access my linux server. It's great for copying files, and can be found
BJW> at:
BJW> http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/
BJW> About the best ssh client (basically a secure telnet replacement) is
BJW> called PuTTY, and can be found at:
BJW> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
BJW> These are my favorite ways of accessing my server securely.
BJW> Hope this helps!
BJW> Ben
BJW> _______________________________________________
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BJW> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From dean.plant@roke.co.uk Tue Nov 2 17:10:44 2004
From: dean.plant@roke.co.uk (Plant, Dean)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:10:44 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Hwdata rpm fails gpg check
Message-ID: <3F2E01E1D7B04F4EBEC92D3FA324D8802731F1@rsys004a.roke.co.uk>
Hello list,
Can someone please just put my mind to rest about the package
hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm which seems to be failing md5/gpg checks from
some mirrors.
I have downloaded this particular rpm from the belnet,esat & ncsu mirrors
with differing results. All the files are the same size but the esat and
belnet fails gpg and md5 checks.
md5sum hw*
4af1814b46df2bf2cbcb116b5b92e702 hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-belnet
4af1814b46df2bf2cbcb116b5b92e702 hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-esat
adeed27d5bbdf6d77c9b6028bbbfa105 hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-ncsu
rpm -K hw*
hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-belnet: (SHA1) DSA sha1 MD5 GPG NOT OK
hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-esat: (SHA1) DSA sha1 MD5 GPG NOT OK
hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-ncsu: (SHA1) DSA sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING
KEYS: GPG#73307de6)
ls -l hw*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 256998 Nov 2 16:57
hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-belnet
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 256998 Nov 2 17:01
hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-esat
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 256998 Nov 2 16:49
hwdata-0.101.8-1.noarch.rpm-ncsu
Is this something I should be worried about?
Thanks in advance.
Dean Plant
From jkunkel@laurcat.com Tue Nov 2 22:20:46 2004
From: jkunkel@laurcat.com (Jim Kunkel)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:20:46 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] What your choice of Linux distribution says about you
Message-ID: <018801c4c12a$336068c0$6301a8c0@lc>
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would much rather have a server that won't need attention than an =
attention-getting desktop. So far, judging by the mailing list, the =
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From kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com Tue Nov 2 22:51:33 2004
From: kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com (Jason Balicki)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:51:33 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] What your choice of Linux distribution says about you
In-Reply-To: <018801c4c12a$336068c0$6301a8c0@lc>
Message-ID: <008801c4c12e$80241040$0501a8c0@darkside>
I have one WBEL server running in a production environment,
with a second coming on line this weekend.
I had a little trouble with the newest box, I'm migrating
existing services to it and I had trouble with our Intranet
application (running on PHP-Nuke). Everything else was fine,
but for some reason I had to completely remove httpd, mysql
and php and reinstall them, then PHP-Nuke magically worked.
It occurred to me after the fact that WBELs wobble, but they
don't fall down.
--J(K)
From lists@ehome.net Tue Nov 2 22:54:19 2004
From: lists@ehome.net (eLists)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:54:19 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] how to restart an aborted yum update?
Message-ID:
Hello,
I am a fairly new Whitebox user. I do have 2 servers deployed with it.
However, the third one has a problem. I also use Webmin, and when using
the yum update tool, partway through the update process it failed. Why,
I am not positive, but I believe it was due to an interruption of my
connection.
The box boots, but there are a few errors. The machine is now in a data
center with limited hand-on access.
Repeated attempts to run the yum update again (via webmin) give errors.
Is there a way I can manually force an update (command line is fine).
Thank you for any help / suggestions.
Dale
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Tue Nov 2 23:15:18 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:15:18 -0800
Subject: Cheshire PHP problem - was Re: [WBEL-users] What your choice of Linux
distribution says about you
In-Reply-To: <008801c4c12e$80241040$0501a8c0@darkside>
References: <008801c4c12e$80241040$0501a8c0@darkside>
Message-ID: <41881506.6080003@platypus.bc.ca>
Jason,
That sounds like an odd problem for sure. Have you a procedure or
method of duplicating the state this box was in before you reinstalled
all that? I'm wondering if a %post was setting something based on the
existence of something else - a no no - that wandered away afterward.
Dare I hope that everything was installed from RPMs?
I'm thinking that I may be able to replicate this setup, with your help
becuase I have never used PHPNuke, and find out the cause of this. The
goal, of course, would be to remove what seems to be a problem based on
the order in which things were installed.
The order in which things install shouldn't ever be a factor, and your
situation leaves me perplexed for sure.
NB: In the days when all my servers were similar, I used virtual RPMs
to devise profiles that were then installed by a single Apt invocation.
The same can perhaps be done with Yum, and can make your task of
bringing new servers online that much easier. You may want to look into
it all.
- bish
Jason Balicki wrote:
> I have one WBEL server running in a production environment,
> with a second coming on line this weekend.
>
> I had a little trouble with the newest box, I'm migrating
> existing services to it and I had trouble with our Intranet
> application (running on PHP-Nuke). Everything else was fine,
> but for some reason I had to completely remove httpd, mysql
> and php and reinstall them, then PHP-Nuke magically worked.
>
> It occurred to me after the fact that WBELs wobble, but they
> don't fall down.
>
> --J(K)
>
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From subsolar@subsolar.org Wed Nov 3 01:08:28 2004
From: subsolar@subsolar.org (Paul)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:08:28 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] What your choice of Linux distribution says about
you
In-Reply-To: <003e01c4c0fa$e6d544f0$1465a8c0@rustington.vets>
References: <003e01c4c0fa$e6d544f0$1465a8c0@rustington.vets>
Message-ID: <1099444107.2566.1.camel@azure>
On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 10:42, Nigel Kendrick wrote:
> Newer converts to WBEL are mainly former Red Hat 9 users who felt like
> they'd been dumped on prom night and for whom Red's cousin, Fedora,
> seemed like too much of a wild child to take to the party.
Hmmmm hit the nail on the head so to say for me.
Paul
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From simone72@email.it Wed Nov 3 11:55:26 2004
From: simone72@email.it (Simone)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:55:26 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] CRM for WBEL
Message-ID: <4188C72E.7090205@email.it>
Hi all,
as usual I'm here asking your opinion and advice. Anyone has a positive
experience with CRM on Whitebox?
Which CRM would you suggest for a small (5 to 20) company?
Thanks for sharing, have a nice day
Simone
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From rgm@htt-consult.com Wed Nov 3 13:49:25 2004
From: rgm@htt-consult.com (Robert Moskowitz)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:49:25 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Need some dependencies help
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041103084656.05fd8018@localhost>
I have been struggling with Idealx's ICM package. THe first dependency I
have to address is perl-CGI. Here is what the Idealx people have told
me. Question is, has anyone installed this, and where did they get
it? Was it a place with yum, or just rpm?
================================================
You need to download and install the RPM files :
rpm -i perl-CGI-* perl-libwww-perl-*
RPM may stop saying some other dependencies are needed. You need to install
them also.
If you want to avoid RPM dependency hell, you can try YUM or APT-RPM :
these are additionnal packages and systems that you need to install but it
will greatly help if you want to install other third-party software
packages on your system. Try googling for apt redhat and you should find a
lot of sites and public repositories.
=======================================
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Wed Nov 3 14:28:35 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:28:35 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Need some dependencies help
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Well, perl-libwww-perl is OK, I have that, but CGI I think is now part
of perl 5.8.1 so you get that anyway. I assume you installed perl
itself. So you should be OK, what exactly is it complaining about?
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I have been struggling with Idealx's ICM package. THe first dependency
> I have to address is perl-CGI. Here is what the Idealx people have told
> me. Question is, has anyone installed this, and where did they get it?
> Was it a place with yum, or just rpm?
>
> ================================================
>
> You need to download and install the RPM files :
>
> rpm -i perl-CGI-* perl-libwww-perl-*
>
> RPM may stop saying some other dependencies are needed. You need to
> install them also.
> If you want to avoid RPM dependency hell, you can try YUM or APT-RPM :
> these are additionnal packages and systems that you need to install but
> it will greatly help if you want to install other third-party software
> packages on your system. Try googling for apt redhat and you should find
> a lot of sites and public repositories.
>
> =======================================
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Wed Nov 3 14:44:19 2004
From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:44:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Need some dependencies help
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041103084656.05fd8018@localhost>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041103084656.05fd8018@localhost>
Message-ID: <2720.12.29.16.103.1099493059.squirrel@whooper.org>
Robert Moskowitz said:
> I have been struggling with Idealx's ICM package. THe first dependency I
> have to address is perl-CGI. Here is what the Idealx people have told
> me. Question is, has anyone installed this, and where did they get it?
> Was it a place with yum, or just rpm?
>
>
> ================================================
>
>
> You need to download and install the RPM files :
>
>
> rpm -i perl-CGI-* perl-libwww-perl-*
Both of those RPMs are part of the base Whitebox:
[whooper@snowball whooper]$ sudo yum list perl-CGI perl-libwww-perl
Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)
Server: White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 - i386 - Base
Server: White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 - i386 - Dag Repo
Server: White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 - i386 - Released Updates
Finding updated packages
Downloading needed headers
Looking in Available Packages:
Name Arch Version Repo
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
perl-CGI i386 2:2.81-88.7 updates-released
Looking in Installed Packages:
Name Arch Version Repo
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
perl-libwww-perl noarch 5.65-6 db
--
William Hooper
From kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com Wed Nov 3 15:06:37 2004
From: kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com (Jason Balicki)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:06:37 -0600
Subject: Cheshire PHP problem - was Re: [WBEL-users] What your choice of Linux distribution says about you
In-Reply-To: <41881506.6080003@platypus.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <003e01c4c1b6$b76bcb00$0501a8c0@darkside>
bishop wrote:
> That sounds like an odd problem for sure. Have you a procedure or
> method of duplicating the state this box was in before you reinstalled
> all that? I'm wondering if a %post was setting something based on the
> existence of something else - a no no - that wandered away afterward.
I wasn't really asking for help on this one, I just wanted an
excuse to use the "WBELs wobble" line, but if it helps the cause,
I'm game. :)
I don't have a method re replicating the state, other than
starting over. The install date for this server is this
coming weekend, so I don't want to do that just for the sake
of curiosity. If I had another machine with the same hardware
config I'd do it and report results. But I don't, unfortunately.
> Dare I hope that everything was installed from RPMs?
This was a fresh install of WBEL and setting up PHP-Nuke
was the first thing I tried. However, PHP-Nuke was not
installed via RPM. PHP-Nuke doesn't add any libraries or
anything like that, though. You just drop the files somewhere
in your docroot, set up your database and go. If you want
I can give you my install.log and install.log.syslog. I'm
also willing to share a tarball of that docroot directory and
a dump of the database (with the passwords changed or zeroed,
of course.) Everything except PHP-Nuke was RPM. The database
dump is VERY small (784k uncompressed). This app is used as a
start page for my orginazation, with links to internal and
external services, plus announcements on a very rare basis.
It doesn't change much so it's very small.
> I'm thinking that I may be able to replicate this setup, with your
> help becuase I have never used PHPNuke, and find out the cause of
> this. The goal, of course, would be to remove what seems to be a
> problem based on the order in which things were installed.
> The order in which things install shouldn't ever be a factor, and your
> situation leaves me perplexed for sure.
This is a brand new box, a 2U chasis with an intel S875WP1-E
server board in it, with 1GB RAM and a 2.8Ghz hyper-threading
enabled 800Mhz FSB P4 chip, using a 160GB SATA HD & only using
the 1Gb NIC (there are two NICs, one 10/100Mb that's enabled
in the bios but the drivers aren't loaded and a 1Gb that's
running.) There is no other hardware in the system, the
video is integrated on the board. This box is to be our main
Samba-based PDC, file and print server.
In a nutshell, here's what I did:
1) Installed WBEL on a new box.
2) Ran "yum update"
2.5) made sure that php, mysql and php-mysql was installed
3) did a mysql dump of the old server*
4) copied /var/www/html/fm (docroot of php-nuke) on old server to new
5) restored database on new server
6) attempted to connect, got failure ("blank page").
7) messed around a lot**
8) yum remove php-mysql mysql-server mysql httpd php
9) yum install php-mysql httpd mysql-server
10) connected***
* old server was a RH 7.3 box. PHP-Nuke is version 6.5
** history available on request (will take a while, I'd
want to edit and annotate it), but mostly consisted of
trying to find where the failure was occuring. It occured
at the line:
$db = new sql_db($dbhost, $dbuname, $dbpass, $dbname, false);
in db/db.php, leading me to believe that php-mysql wasn't
working right (even though it was installed.) There were
no error messages anywhere, just a silent failure. I
kept adding 'echo "I'm here "' lines until I found
where they stopped.
*** this is a condensed account & this process started
on a Friday and ended early afternoon the following
Monday. I tested this migration on other machines
that I have and all of them worked. Except, of course,
for the one that the app had to live on. I tried installing
fresh copies of PHP-Nuke and CPG-Nuke (a GPL fork) and
both hit the same failure.
> NB: In the days when all my servers were similar, I used virtual RPMs
> to devise profiles that were then installed by a single Apt
> invocation. The same can perhaps be done with Yum, and can make
> your task of bringing new servers online that much easier. You may
> want to look into it all.
That would be great, except: 1) No two of my servers are the same and
2) even if I could replicate the base install, no two of my servers
come on line close to the same time (this case is a fluke and is not
likely to happen again) so if I bothered to create profiles, they'd
need to be updated by the time I'm ready to scratch-install a new
box -- I would be doubling work for myself. I'm not a hosting
company with thousands of boxes, I'm a small mortgage company with
less than 10 servers (but growing, slowly.)
Thanks for your interest,
--J(K)
From rgm@htt-consult.com Wed Nov 3 17:23:22 2004
From: rgm@htt-consult.com (Robert Moskowitz)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:23:22 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Need some dependencies help
In-Reply-To: <4188EB13.8020103@wsieurope.com>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041103084656.05fd8018@localhost>
<4188EB13.8020103@wsieurope.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041103122152.05df7c30@localhost>
At 09:28 AM 11/3/2004, Graham Purcocks wrote:
>Well, perl-libwww-perl is OK, I have that, but CGI I think is now part of
>perl 5.8.1 so you get that anyway. I assume you installed perl itself. So
>you should be OK, what exactly is it complaining about?
Well I believe I installed perl. I know how important it is to sooo many
tasks (and I actually wrote some perl and tcl stuff 10 years ago). Here is
my conversatoin with idealx:
>>>cd /opt/IDEALX/imc
>>>./bin/imc-server -d -c ./etc/imc.xml -l ./imc.log
>>
>>
>>I have to figure out how to get the response of this to you as it looks
>>like if failed big time. Something like:
>>
>>can't locate CGI.pm in @INC ( .... ) at lib/IMC/WebApp/Server.pm line 6
>
>Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>I have been struggling with Idealx's ICM package. THe first dependency I
>>have to address is perl-CGI. Here is what the Idealx people have told
>>me. Question is, has anyone installed this, and where did they get it?
>>Was it a place with yum, or just rpm?
>>================================================
>>You need to download and install the RPM files :
>>rpm -i perl-CGI-* perl-libwww-perl-*
>>RPM may stop saying some other dependencies are needed. You need to
>>install them also.
>>If you want to avoid RPM dependency hell, you can try YUM or APT-RPM :
>>these are additionnal packages and systems that you need to install but
>>it will greatly help if you want to install other third-party software
>>packages on your system. Try googling for apt redhat and you should find
>>a lot of sites and public repositories.
>>=======================================
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
>
From rdieter@math.unl.edu Wed Nov 3 17:36:20 2004
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:36:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Need some dependencies help
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041103122152.05df7c30@localhost>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041103084656.05fd8018@localhost> <4188EB13.8020103@wsieurope.com>
<6.1.2.0.2.20041103122152.05df7c30@localhost>
Message-ID:
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> At 09:28 AM 11/3/2004, Graham Purcocks wrote:
>> Well, perl-libwww-perl is OK, I have that, but CGI I think is now part of
>> perl 5.8.1 so you get that anyway. I assume you installed perl itself. So
>> you should be OK, what exactly is it complaining about?
>
> Well I believe I installed perl. I know how important it is to sooo many
> tasks (and I actually wrote some perl and tcl stuff 10 years ago). Here is
> my conversatoin with idealx:
>
>>>> cd /opt/IDEALX/imc
>>>> ./bin/imc-server -d -c ./etc/imc.xml -l ./imc.log
>>>
>>>
>>> I have to figure out how to get the response of this to you as it looks
>>> like if failed big time. Something like:
>>>
>>> can't locate CGI.pm in @INC ( .... ) at lib/IMC/WebApp/Server.pm line 6
FYI, perl-CGI *is* packaged separately,
yum install perl-CGI
should get it for you.
-- Rex
From Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com Wed Nov 3 18:15:12 2004
From: Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com (Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:15:12 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Upgrade from RH 7.3
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Has anyone attempted to upgrade from RedHat 7.3 to WBEL? I'm looking
around on Google, and I'm not finding much. I normally just wipe and
reload, but I need to do this quickly. Suggestions?
=========================
Scott Mace
Security Administrator
Travelcenters of America
440-808-4318
mace.scott@tatravelcenters.com
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Has anyone attempted to upgrade from
RedHat 7.3 to WBEL? I'm looking around on Google, and I'm not finding
much. I normally just wipe and reload, but I need to do this quickly.
Suggestions?
=========================
Scott Mace
Security Administrator
Travelcenters of America
440-808-4318
mace.scott@tatravelcenters.com
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From travisb@freedoc.com Wed Nov 3 18:31:40 2004
From: travisb@freedoc.com (Travis Butcher)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:31:40 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Upgrade from RH 7.3
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <200411031031.40329.travisb@freedoc.com>
Redhat has migration documents on their site that recommends to wipe and
reload when migrating from 7.3 to RHEL. So I didn't even try to upgrade I
just went for a fresh install. That may save you more time and less headaches
in the long run.
On Wednesday 03 November 2004 10:15 am, Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com wrote:
> Has anyone attempted to upgrade from RedHat 7.3 to WBEL? I'm looking
> around on Google, and I'm not finding much. I normally just wipe and
> reload, but I need to do this quickly. Suggestions?
>
> =========================
> Scott Mace
> Security Administrator
> Travelcenters of America
> 440-808-4318
> mace.scott@tatravelcenters.com
> =========================
From Mickael Maddison Wed Nov 3 20:32:09 2004
From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:32:09 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Change RHEL to WBEL
Message-ID: <163478869.20041103123209@kamloopsbc.com>
Hello whitebox-users,
Ok. I think this has been asked and answered, but I need a quick and dirty.
I've got a box that has RHWSE that's currently running as a live web box. I need to convert it to WBEL as we're not renewing the support contract with RH for this box. What I'd like to do is just install YUM and use WBEL RPMs to maintain the machine, thus essentially converting it to WBEL. Since WBEL is RHES, I suspect this can work, but I'm not sure of any issues that might come up. Suggestions?
--
Best regards,
Mickael mailto:mike@kamloopsbc.com
From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Wed Nov 3 21:25:04 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:25:04 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Change RHEL to WBEL
In-Reply-To: <163478869.20041103123209@kamloopsbc.com>
References: <163478869.20041103123209@kamloopsbc.com>
Message-ID: <1099517104.12244.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 12:32 -0800, Mickael Maddison wrote:
> Hello whitebox-users,
>
> Ok. I think this has been asked and answered, but I need a quick and
> dirty.
> I've got a box that has RHWSE that's currently running as a live web
> box. I need to convert it to WBEL as we're not renewing the support
> contract with RH for this box. What I'd like to do is just install
> YUM and use WBEL RPMs to maintain the machine, thus essentially
> converting it to WBEL. Since WBEL is RHES, I suspect this can work,
> but I'm not sure of any issues that might come up. Suggestions?
I would think that you could un-install redhat-release (rpm -e
redhat-release), then install the latest whitebox-release and yum for
WBEL ... adjust your /etc/yum.conf (here is mine):
http://www.hughesjr.com/wbel/yum.conf.txt
Then do:
yum upgrade
If you are running up2date, up2date-gnome and rhn-applet ... un-install
them and replace with the ones for WBEL. I use yum vice up2date, so I
don't have a good /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources ...
I think then you would be good to go.
-----------------------
Johnny Hughes
From Mickael Maddison Wed Nov 3 22:09:47 2004
From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:09:47 -0800
Subject: Re[2]: [WBEL-users] Change RHEL to WBEL
In-Reply-To: <1099517104.12244.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
References: <163478869.20041103123209@kamloopsbc.com>
<1099517104.12244.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
Message-ID: <253319240.20041103140947@kamloopsbc.com>
Hello Johnny,
Thanks... that sounds workable. i'm going to give it a shot on a test machine then go for a live one if it works out well.
Mike
From Mickael Maddison Wed Nov 3 22:49:51 2004
From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:49:51 -0800
Subject: Re[2]: [WBEL-users] Change RHEL to WBEL
In-Reply-To: <1099517104.12244.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
References: <163478869.20041103123209@kamloopsbc.com>
<1099517104.12244.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
Message-ID: <608673556.20041103144951@kamloopsbc.com>
Hello Johnny,
I've done as you suggested, I'm just waiting for the upgrades to complete and see if all is well on the test machine. A question came to mind...
I "Was" using up2date, but if I understand correctly, YUM can handle all I should need for updates, so when I remove up2date there should be no need to install a WBEL version of up2date or rhn-applet, right?
--
Best regards,
Mickael
mailto:mike@kamloopsbc.com
Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 1:25:04 PM, you wrote:
JH> On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 12:32 -0800, Mickael Maddison wrote:
>> Hello whitebox-users,
>>
>> Ok. I think this has been asked and answered, but I need a quick and
>> dirty.
>> I've got a box that has RHWSE that's currently running as a live web
>> box. I need to convert it to WBEL as we're not renewing the support
>> contract with RH for this box. What I'd like to do is just install
>> YUM and use WBEL RPMs to maintain the machine, thus essentially
>> converting it to WBEL. Since WBEL is RHES, I suspect this can work,
>> but I'm not sure of any issues that might come up. Suggestions?
JH> I would think that you could un-install redhat-release (rpm -e
JH> redhat-release), then install the latest whitebox-release and yum for
JH> WBEL ... adjust your /etc/yum.conf (here is mine):
JH> http://www.hughesjr.com/wbel/yum.conf.txt
JH> Then do:
JH> yum upgrade
JH> If you are running up2date, up2date-gnome and rhn-applet ... un-install
JH> them and replace with the ones for WBEL. I use yum vice up2date, so I
JH> don't have a good /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources ...
JH> I think then you would be good to go.
JH> -----------------------
JH> Johnny Hughes
JH>
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From jason@coalescentsystems.ca Wed Nov 3 22:56:29 2004
From: jason@coalescentsystems.ca (Jason Becker)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:56:29 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
Message-ID: <4189621D.60500@coalescentsystems.ca>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:55:26 +0100
From: Simone
-begin-
Hi all,
as usual I'm here asking your opinion and advice. Anyone has a positive
experience with CRM on Whitebox?
Which CRM would you suggest for a small (5 to 20) company?
Thanks for sharing, have a nice day
Simone
-end-
SugarCRM has been making news. Haven't used it, but it's Open Source.
Regards,
--
Jason Becker
Director & CEO
Coalescent Systems Inc.
403.244.8089
www.coalescentsystems.ca
From sudev@mantraonline.com Thu Nov 4 02:40:54 2004
From: sudev@mantraonline.com (Sudev Barar)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:10:54 +0530
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
In-Reply-To: <4189621D.60500@coalescentsystems.ca>
References: <4189621D.60500@coalescentsystems.ca>
Message-ID: <1099536053.27607.14.camel@server.ltsp>
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 04:26, Jason Becker wrote:
> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:55:26 +0100
> From: Simone
[SNIP]
> Which CRM would you suggest for a small (5 to 20) company?
Second the Sugar CRM am using it and within a month sales people are
realising its worth.
Looking now to customise it a bit.
--
Sudev Barar
Learning Linux
From denis@just-servers.co.uk Thu Nov 4 07:21:29 2004
From: denis@just-servers.co.uk (Denis Croombs)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:21:29 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
In-Reply-To: <1099536053.27607.14.camel@server.ltsp>
Message-ID: <200411040834.iA48YeF14052@rack1.just-hosting.biz>
>> Which CRM would you suggest for a small (5 to 20) company?
>
>Second the Sugar CRM am using it and within a month sales people are
realising its worth.
>Looking now to customise it a bit.
>--
>Sudev Barar
>Learning Linux
I am intrested in Sugar, but cannot find out where to download it any clues
?
Thanks
Denis
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From cb@bo-mc.de Thu Nov 4 07:40:54 2004
From: cb@bo-mc.de (Carsten Boehlke)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:40:54 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Change RHEL to WBEL
In-Reply-To: <608673556.20041103144951@kamloopsbc.com>
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Mickael Maddison wrote:
>Hello Johnny,
>
>I've done as you suggested, I'm just waiting for the upgrades to complete and see if all is well on the test machine. A question came to mind...
>I "Was" using up2date, but if I understand correctly, YUM can handle all I should need for updates, so when I remove up2date there should be no need to install a WBEL version of up2date or rhn-applet, right?
>
>
Yep, that's right. Yum and up2date are two different mechanisms. You
only need one off them.
Best regards,
Carsten.
From fredo.sartori@spdfraktion.de Thu Nov 4 08:05:51 2004
From: fredo.sartori@spdfraktion.de (Fredo Sartori)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 09:05:51 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] /dev/random hangs
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Hi all,
I'm running wbel with kernel 2.4.21-4.ELsmp. A few days ago I noticed an
apache hanging during startup. strace showed that apache tried to read
from /dev/random without getting any data. A "cat /dev/random" did not
produce any output either, even if I waited for some minutes. "cat
/proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail" returned 0, constantly. Rebooting
the box solved the problem only temporarily.
Any hints are welcome ...
Fredo
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From plugnplay@grandpacific.ph Thu Nov 4 08:22:41 2004
From: plugnplay@grandpacific.ph (Plug n Play)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:22:41 +0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] postfix + ldap howto
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on postfix + ldap?
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Thank you very much,
Marc
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From Simone72 Thu Nov 4 08:32:12 2004
From: Simone72 (Simone72)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:32:12 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
Message-ID:
This should be the right location:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sugarcrm/SugarCRM-Full-2.0c.zip
links taken from this page:
http://www.sugarcrm.com/home/Download_Sugar_Sales/107/
have a nice day
--------- Original Message --------
Da: denis@just-servers.co.uk
To: 'Sudev Barar' , 'WBEL'
Oggetto: RE: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
Data: 04/11/04 08:25
>
>
>
> >> Which CRM would you suggest for a small (5 to 20) company?
> >
> >Second the Sugar CRM am using it and within a month sales people are
> realising its worth.
> >Looking now to customise it a bit.
> >--
> >Sudev Barar
> >Learning Linux
> I am intrested in Sugar, but cannot find out where to download it any
clues
> ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denis
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From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Nov 4 13:53:31 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 07:53:31 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Change RHEL to WBEL
In-Reply-To: <4189DD06.3050407@bo-mc.de>
References: <163478869.20041103123209@kamloopsbc.com>
<1099517104.12244.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
<608673556.20041103144951@kamloopsbc.com> <4189DD06.3050407@bo-mc.de>
Message-ID: <1099576411.12244.16.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 08:40 +0100, Carsten Boehlke wrote:
> Mickael Maddison wrote:
>
> >Hello Johnny,
> >
> >I've done as you suggested, I'm just waiting for the upgrades to complete and see if all is well on the test machine. A question came to mind...
> >I "Was" using up2date, but if I understand correctly, YUM can handle all I should need for updates, so when I remove up2date there should be no need to install a WBEL version of up2date or rhn-applet, right?
> >
> >
> Yep, that's right. Yum and up2date are two different mechanisms. You
> only need one off them.
You only need to use yum ... but if you like the applet to show you when
there are updates, then you would need to install updated versions of
up2date, up2date-gnome, and rhn-applet.
I don't use them anymore, but I did when I first shifted to WBEL. I
like yum better than up2date ... but you can choose to use either of
them, or both together, to do your updates.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carsten.
>
-----------------------
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From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Thu Nov 4 15:35:48 2004
From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:35:48 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000801c4c283$f855bf90$1465a8c0@rustington.vets>
Might be worth looking at XRMS too (search for it on sourceforge) - its
interface is not as pretty as Sugar's but we found its reporting was
much better.
NK
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To: denis@just-servers.co.uk; 'Sudev Barar'; 'WBEL'
Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
This should be the right location:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sugarcrm/SugarCRM-Full-2.0c.zip
links taken from this page:
http://www.sugarcrm.com/home/Download_Sugar_Sales/107/
have a nice day
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To: 'Sudev Barar' , 'WBEL'
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Data: 04/11/04 08:25
>
>
>
> >> Which CRM would you suggest for a small (5 to 20) company?
> > >Second the Sugar CRM am using it and within a month sales
> people are realising its worth.
> >Looking now to customise it a bit.
> >--
> >Sudev Barar
> >Learning Linux
> I am intrested in Sugar, but cannot find out where to download it any
clues
> ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Denis
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From kgarner@kgarner.com Thu Nov 4 15:36:29 2004
From: kgarner@kgarner.com (Keith T. Garner)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:36:29 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] postfix + ldap howto
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On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 04:22:41, Plug n Play said:
> Need some expert guidance from all of you ... =P
>
>
> I've been looking for docs regarding postfix + ldap setup but
> unfortunately the docs at postfix.org is old and not updated.
>
>
> Can you share some of your sites regarding config and setup
> on postfix + ldap?
This is probably more than you need, but check out the HOWTO at
http://jamm.sf.net/
It works perfectly on EL3, so I imagine it should be fine on WB.
Haven't tried it on WB yet.
Keith
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From Greg.King@lmit.com Thu Nov 4 16:01:38 2004
From: Greg.King@lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU))
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:01:38 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Fyi on dell precision 670
Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E7BDEEF3@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com>
Just something I had to deal with in case someone searching the list needs
the info.
I had a Dell 670 sent to me as the techs couldn't get it to take a load.
Looking at it, the problem was that RH Update3 and Update 5 did not contain
the necessary SCSI drivers, therefore the disks are never found. I figure
the same will occur with WBEL as well.
You will need to make a driver disk from Dells support downloads for the 670
( aic79xx-2.0.8-3.tar.gz )
I also found that their dual-head NIC drivers listed for download are
incorrect. They list only the 64 bit versions. It turns out you can get the
one for the video card shipped with that box by getting this driver:
nvidia-6105-1-i386.tar.gz
And lastly, the NIC wont work since Intel has not made the driver available
for the gig e1000 adapter (the default one will not work): "Intel is not
supplying patches against the kernel source to allow for static linking of
the driver."
So you will need to download that one as well
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=39&strT
ypes=DRV&ProductID=1098&OSFullName=Linux*&submit=Go%21
Greg King
From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Thu Nov 4 16:28:18 2004
From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:28:18 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: CRM for WBEL
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c283$f855bf90$1465a8c0@rustington.vets>
Message-ID: <000901c4c28b$4af6afa0$1465a8c0@rustington.vets>
Hmm,
I note that Sugar has V2.0 out now - still looks not so hot on
reporting, but it seems to address the other major gripe we had about a
calendar feature - I'll have to re-visit Sugar methinks!
Nigel Kendrick
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From nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk Thu Nov 4 16:49:08 2004
From: nigel.kendrick@petdoctors.co.uk (Nigel Kendrick)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:49:08 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Fyi on dell precision 670
In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E7BDEEF3@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c4c28e$34a4d9e0$1465a8c0@rustington.vets>
I had a similar Intel e1000 LAN chip issue with a couple of Acer G310
servers and the Acer support site had the necessary download.
I bought one G310 with a SCSI disk subsystem and one with SATA - both
work fine with WBEL - nice kit for the price - the only caution is that
you need a metal strip to mount drives and you need to wrestle them from
Acer or their spares suppliers - they keep sending me PCI expansion bus
blanking plates for the back of the server and like most techs I have
dozens of these in every drawer and desk tidy already!
Nigel Kendrick
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From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
[mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of King, John (Greg)
(LMIT-HOU)
Sent: 04 November 2004 16:02
To: whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: [WBEL-users] Fyi on dell precision 670
Just something I had to deal with in case someone searching the list
needs the info.
I had a Dell 670 sent to me as the techs couldn't get it to take a load.
Looking at it, the problem was that RH Update3 and Update 5 did not
contain the necessary SCSI drivers, therefore the disks are never found.
I figure the same will occur with WBEL as well.
You will need to make a driver disk from Dells support downloads for the
670 ( aic79xx-2.0.8-3.tar.gz )
I also found that their dual-head NIC drivers listed for download are
incorrect. They list only the 64 bit versions. It turns out you can get
the one for the video card shipped with that box by getting this driver:
nvidia-6105-1-i386.tar.gz
And lastly, the NIC wont work since Intel has not made the driver
available for the gig e1000 adapter (the default one will not work):
"Intel is not supplying patches against the kernel source to allow for
static linking of
the driver."
So you will need to download that one as well
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=39&
strT
ypes=DRV&ProductID=1098&OSFullName=Linux*&submit=Go%21
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From dave@58ghz.net Thu Nov 4 17:14:19 2004
From: dave@58ghz.net (Dave J. Hala Jr.)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:14:19 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Fyi on dell precision 670
In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E7BDEEF3@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com>
References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E7BDEEF3@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com>
Message-ID: <1099588459.24111.527.camel@dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
I have a couple of boxes running RHEL WS, and they auto detect and
install the PCI Intel 1000mb cards, without issue. I'm assuming the
WBEL would do that same.
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 10:01, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote:
> Just something I had to deal with in case someone searching the list needs
> the info.
>
> I had a Dell 670 sent to me as the techs couldn't get it to take a load.
> Looking at it, the problem was that RH Update3 and Update 5 did not contain
> the necessary SCSI drivers, therefore the disks are never found. I figure
> the same will occur with WBEL as well.
>
> You will need to make a driver disk from Dells support downloads for the 670
> ( aic79xx-2.0.8-3.tar.gz )
>
> I also found that their dual-head NIC drivers listed for download are
> incorrect. They list only the 64 bit versions. It turns out you can get the
> one for the video card shipped with that box by getting this driver:
> nvidia-6105-1-i386.tar.gz
>
> And lastly, the NIC wont work since Intel has not made the driver available
> for the gig e1000 adapter (the default one will not work): "Intel is not
> supplying patches against the kernel source to allow for static linking of
> the driver."
>
> So you will need to download that one as well
>
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=39&strT
> ypes=DRV&ProductID=1098&OSFullName=Linux*&submit=Go%21
>
>
> Greg King
>
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From alfred@110.net Thu Nov 4 17:35:11 2004
From: alfred@110.net (Alfred von Campe)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:35:11 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
Message-ID:
This is not strictly a WBEL question, but I accidentally deleted my
WBEL ISO images. I do have the 3 CDs, and would like to recreate the
ISO images from the CDs so I don't have to re-download them. What's
the best/easiest way to do this? If I use mkisofs, will it do the
right thing and make CD1 bootable, and if so, what options to mkisofs
should I use?
Thanks in advance for any information,
Alfred
From charlie@phys.utb.edu Thu Nov 4 16:43:09 2004
From: charlie@phys.utb.edu (Charlie Torres)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 10:43:09 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Installing GNUmeric via RPM to WBEL
Message-ID: <1099586589.9731.25.camel@zero.phys.utb.edu>
Hello,
I'm writing to ask about where one can get packages that don't exist in
the yum repositories listed in http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/faq.html
Basically I'd like to know where I can go and yum up the required
packages. I didn't want to chase the dependencies to install gnumeric.
If anyone know a clean simple solution please let me know.
Thanks,
From Mickael Maddison Thu Nov 4 19:09:00 2004
From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:09:00 -0800
Subject: Re[2]: [WBEL-users] Change RHEL to WBEL
In-Reply-To: <4189DD06.3050407@bo-mc.de>
References: <163478869.20041103123209@kamloopsbc.com>
<1099517104.12244.8.camel@Myth.home.local>
<608673556.20041103144951@kamloopsbc.com> <4189DD06.3050407@bo-mc.de>
Message-ID: <195792500.20041104110900@kamloopsbc.com>
Hello Carsten,
Thanks that's what I expected. I've went ahead and followed Johnny's suggestions and so far it seems to have worked flawlessly. The 'live' machine is up and running, and upgraded to the latest packages.
--
Best regards,
Mickael
mailto:mike@kamloopsbc.com
Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 11:40:54 PM, you wrote:
CB> Mickael Maddison wrote:
>>Hello Johnny,
>>
>>I've done as you suggested, I'm just waiting for the upgrades to
>>complete and see if all is well on the test machine. A question
>>came to mind...
>>I "Was" using up2date, but if I understand correctly, YUM can
>>handle all I should need for updates, so when I remove up2date there
>>should be no need to install a WBEL version of up2date or
>>rhn-applet, right?
>>
>>
CB> Yep, that's right. Yum and up2date are two different mechanisms. You
CB> only need one off them.
CB> Best regards,
CB> Carsten.
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From Greg.King@lmit.com Thu Nov 4 19:38:45 2004
From: Greg.King@lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU))
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:38:45 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Fyi on dell precision 670
Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E7BDEEFB@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com>
Well RHEL WS cds here did not on this system. Manually selecting it and
trying to enable it failed as well. I ended up calling Dell support asking
what the deal with this model was and I was directed to obtain the necessary
driver for that card from Intel. Downloaded that driver, installed and it
worked fine.
-Greg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave J. Hala Jr. [mailto:dave@58ghz.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:14 AM
> To: King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)
> Cc: WBL Liist
> Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Fyi on dell precision 670
>
> I have a couple of boxes running RHEL WS, and they auto
> detect and install the PCI Intel 1000mb cards, without issue.
> I'm assuming the WBEL would do that same.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 10:01, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote:
> > Just something I had to deal with in case someone searching
> the list
> > needs the info.
> >
> > I had a Dell 670 sent to me as the techs couldn't get it to
> take a load.
> > Looking at it, the problem was that RH Update3 and Update 5 did not
> > contain the necessary SCSI drivers, therefore the disks are never
> > found. I figure the same will occur with WBEL as well.
> >
> > You will need to make a driver disk from Dells support
> downloads for
> > the 670 ( aic79xx-2.0.8-3.tar.gz )
> >
> > I also found that their dual-head NIC drivers listed for
> download are
> > incorrect. They list only the 64 bit versions. It turns out you can
> > get the one for the video card shipped with that box by
> getting this driver:
> > nvidia-6105-1-i386.tar.gz
> >
> > And lastly, the NIC wont work since Intel has not made the driver
> > available for the gig e1000 adapter (the default one will
> not work):
> > "Intel is not supplying patches against the kernel source
> to allow for
> > static linking of the driver."
> >
> > So you will need to download that one as well
> >
> >
> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=3
> > 9&strT
> > ypes=DRV&ProductID=1098&OSFullName=Linux*&submit=Go%21
> >
> >
> > Greg King
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com Thu Nov 4 21:03:49 2004
From: kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com (Jason Balicki)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:03:49 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <008401c4c2b1$c8339480$0501a8c0@darkside>
Alfred von Campe <> wrote:
> This is not strictly a WBEL question, but I accidentally deleted my
> WBEL ISO images. I do have the 3 CDs, and would like to recreate the
> ISO images from the CDs so I don't have to re-download them. What's
> the best/easiest way to do this? If I use mkisofs, will it do the
> right thing and make CD1 bootable, and if so, what options to mkisofs
> should I use?
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/image.iso
--J(K)
From chris.audley@beacon-cs.com Thu Nov 4 21:06:41 2004
From: chris.audley@beacon-cs.com (Chris Audley)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:06:41 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
Message-ID:
You can use dd to make a copy of your ISO images off of the CD's.
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
When you are done, verify the md5sum against the checksums posted on the
whitebox site to make sure you got a good copy.
Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
[mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Alfred von Campe
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:35 PM
To: whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
This is not strictly a WBEL question, but I accidentally deleted my WBEL
ISO images. I do have the 3 CDs, and would like to recreate the ISO
images from the CDs so I don't have to re-download them. What's the
best/easiest way to do this? If I use mkisofs, will it do the right
thing and make CD1 bootable, and if so, what options to mkisofs should I
use?
Thanks in advance for any information,
Alfred
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From mnk_kulkarni@yahoo.com Thu Nov 4 23:57:38 2004
From: mnk_kulkarni@yahoo.com (nikhil kulkarni)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:57:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] kickstart file with WBEL respin1
Message-ID: <20041104235738.22061.qmail@web41605.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
I'm facing an unique problem with using a kickstart
file with wbel respin 1. I added a couple of new rpms,
modified the comps.xml file and re-generated the
hdlist.
Everything works fine with no errors, but when I run
the install the packages do not get installed at all.
I tried this for 3-4 different packages with the same
result.
The same works on rhel3. I was wondering if anyone
came across a similar problem?
Thanks,
Nikhil
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From plugnplay@grandpacific.ph Fri Nov 5 09:04:35 2004
From: plugnplay@grandpacific.ph (Plug n Play)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:04:35 +0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] postfix + ldap howto
In-Reply-To: <20041104153629.GK20525@copper.kgarner.com>
Message-ID: <20041105092016.55B13441D7@mailsvr2.eastern-tele.com>
Thanks for your reply Keith.
As a follow-up to my previous question regarding ldap.
I have my ldap server 192.168.0.50 running with no problem and 192.168.0.51
as mail server authenticating to 192.168.0.50.
But problems occur as shown in my /var/log/maillog.
Nov 6 00:55:14 lactum postfix/master[30647]: reload configuration
Nov 6 00:55:14 lactum postfix/master[30647]: nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP
server...
Nov 6 00:55:14 lactum postfix/master[30647]: nss_ldap: reconnected to LDAP
server after 1 attempt(s)
Nov 6 00:55:19 lactum postfix/trivial-rewrite[30682]: warning:
dict_ldap_lookup: Search error 32: No such object
Nov 6 00:55:19 lactum postfix/trivial-rewrite[30682]: fatal:
ldap:acceptdomains(0,100): table lookup problem
Nov 6 00:55:20 lactum postfix/smtpd[30651]: warning: premature end-of-input
on private/rewrite socket while reading input attribute name
Nov 6 00:55:20 lactum postfix/smtpd[30651]: warning: problem talking to
service rewrite: Success
Nov 6 00:55:20 lactum postfix/master[30647]: warning: process
/usr/libexec/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 30682 exit status 1
Nov 6 00:55:20 lactum postfix/master[30647]: warning:
/usr/libexec/postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling
What other configuration should I check or consider here?
I'm lost since I don't have a clear documentation on configuring postfix +
ldap.
Thank you and more power,
Marc
-----Original Message-----
From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org]
On Behalf Of Keith T. Garner
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:36 PM
To: whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] postfix + ldap howto
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 04:22:41, Plug n Play said:
> Need some expert guidance from all of you ... =P
>
>
> I've been looking for docs regarding postfix + ldap setup but
> unfortunately the docs at postfix.org is old and not updated.
>
>
> Can you share some of your sites regarding config and setup
> on postfix + ldap?
This is probably more than you need, but check out the HOWTO at
http://jamm.sf.net/
It works perfectly on EL3, so I imagine it should be fine on WB.
Haven't tried it on WB yet.
Keith
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From jjma100@yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 5 12:50:42 2004
From: jjma100@yahoo.co.uk (Jon)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:50:42 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Adaptec Raid 2005s with WBEL
In-Reply-To: <20041104210700.25277.2956.Mailman@library.beau.org>
Message-ID:
Hi
Anyone experience of getting software installed on White box to
monitor
an adaptec 2005s card - adaptec software lists only redhat 7.3?
Any other generic software that can mnonitor state of raid array
would also be
welcome.
regards
Jon
From Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com Fri Nov 5 13:46:52 2004
From: Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com (Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 07:46:52 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Adaptec Raid 2005s with WBEL
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I use is "dptapps-static-3.1.24-1.i386.rpm" from Adaptec. It has worked
fine and the same package also works for 2015S.
I recall having a difficult time finding the rpm, so if you have trouble
getting it, contact me off the list and I'll send it to you.
$ rpm -ql --info dptapps-static
Name : dptapps-static Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 3.24 Vendor: Adaptec, Inc.
Release : 1 Build Date: Wed 06 Mar 2002
12:00:21 PM EST
Install date: Mon 16 Feb 2004 06:53:26 AM EST Build Host:
linuxtest.otc.adaptec.com
Group : Applications/System Source RPM:
dptapps-static-3.24-1.src.rpm
Size : 8611132 License: Commercial
Signature : (none)
Packager : Adaptec, Inc.
URL : http://www.adaptec.com/
Summary : Adaptec Raid Management Software
Description :
This package contains software to administer Adaptec RAID controllers
/etc/rc.d/init.d/dpt
/root/.gnome-desktop/Storage Manager.desktop
/root/Desktop/Storage Manager.kdelnk
/root/Desktop2/Storage Manager
/root/KDesktop/Storage Manager
/usr/dpt/dptcom
/usr/dpt/dptcom.chk
/usr/dpt/dptelog
/usr/dpt/dptelog.ini
/usr/dpt/dpteng
/usr/dpt/dptmgr
/usr/dpt/dptmgr.hlp
/usr/dpt/dptmgr.ini
/usr/dpt/dptmgr.rsc
/usr/dpt/dptscom
/usr/dpt/dptsig
/usr/dpt/dptutil
/usr/dpt/libXm.so
/usr/dpt/libXm.so.2
/usr/dpt/libXm.so.2.1
/usr/dpt/raidutil
/usr/local/man/man8/dptutil.8
/usr/local/man/man8/raidutil.8
/usr/share/icons/a.xpm
"Jon"
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Subject
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Hi
Anyone experience of getting software installed on White box to
monitor
an adaptec 2005s card - adaptec software lists only redhat 7.3?
Any other generic software that can mnonitor state of raid array
would also be
welcome.
regards
Jon
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I use is "dptapps-static-3.1.24-1.i386.rpm"
from Adaptec. It has worked fine and the same package also works
for 2015S.
I recall having a difficult time finding
the rpm, so if you have trouble getting it, contact me off the list and
I'll send it to you.
$ rpm -ql --info dptapps-static
Name : dptapps-static
Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 3.24
Vendor: Adaptec, Inc.
Release : 1
Build Date: Wed 06 Mar 2002 12:00:21 PM EST
Install date: Mon 16 Feb 2004 06:53:26
AM EST Build Host: linuxtest.otc.adaptec.com
Group : Applications/System
Source RPM: dptapps-static-3.24-1.src.rpm
Size : 8611132
License: Commercial
Signature : (none)
Packager : Adaptec, Inc.
URL : http://www.adaptec.com/
Summary : Adaptec Raid
Management Software
Description :
This package contains software to administer
Adaptec RAID controllers
/etc/rc.d/init.d/dpt
/root/.gnome-desktop/Storage Manager.desktop
/root/Desktop/Storage Manager.kdelnk
/root/Desktop2/Storage Manager
/root/KDesktop/Storage Manager
/usr/dpt/dptcom
/usr/dpt/dptcom.chk
/usr/dpt/dptelog
/usr/dpt/dptelog.ini
/usr/dpt/dpteng
/usr/dpt/dptmgr
/usr/dpt/dptmgr.hlp
/usr/dpt/dptmgr.ini
/usr/dpt/dptmgr.rsc
/usr/dpt/dptscom
/usr/dpt/dptsig
/usr/dpt/dptutil
/usr/dpt/libXm.so
/usr/dpt/libXm.so.2
/usr/dpt/libXm.so.2.1
/usr/dpt/raidutil
/usr/local/man/man8/dptutil.8
/usr/local/man/man8/raidutil.8
/usr/share/icons/a.xpm
"Jon" <jjma100@yahoo.co.uk> Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
11/05/2004 06:50 AM
To
<whitebox-users@beau.org>
cc
Subject
[WBEL-users] Adaptec Raid
2005s with WBEL
Hi
Anyone experience of getting software installed on White box to
monitor
an adaptec 2005s card - adaptec software lists only redhat 7.3?
Any other generic software that can mnonitor state of raid array
would also be
welcome.
regards
Jon
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From alfred@110.net Fri Nov 5 14:09:28 2004
From: alfred@110.net (Alfred von Campe)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:09:28 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <4E439A1F-2F34-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
> You can use dd to make a copy of your ISO images off of the CD's.
>
> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
>
> When you are done, verify the md5sum against the checksums posted on
> the
> whitebox site to make sure you got a good copy.
I used the dd command to create new ISO images (and I also found the
ISO images sitting on a co-worker's computer). But their size was
slightly larger than the original ISOs, so of course the MD5 sums
didn't match:
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 657719296 4 Nov 17:39
liberation-respin1-binary-i386-1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 662110208 4 Nov 17:58
liberation-respin1-binary-i386-2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 498499584 4 Nov 18:11
liberation-respin1-binary-i386-3.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 658026496 4 Nov 14:31 wbel3-1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 662417408 4 Nov 14:33 wbel3-2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 498806784 4 Nov 14:35 wbel3-3.iso
However, I copied all these ISO images to my Mac, mounted the images,
and then did a "diff -r", and there was no difference found on any of
the three disks. Can anyone explain how this is possible?
Alfred
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Fri Nov 5 14:50:49 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:50:49 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
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blocking factor I suspect.
Alfred von Campe wrote:
>> You can use dd to make a copy of your ISO images off of the CD's.
>>
>> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
>>
>> When you are done, verify the md5sum against the checksums posted on the
>> whitebox site to make sure you got a good copy.
>
>
> I used the dd command to create new ISO images (and I also found the ISO
> images sitting on a co-worker's computer). But their size was slightly
> larger than the original ISOs, so of course the MD5 sums didn't match:
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 657719296 4 Nov 17:39
> liberation-respin1-binary-i386-1.iso
> -rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 662110208 4 Nov 17:58
> liberation-respin1-binary-i386-2.iso
> -rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 498499584 4 Nov 18:11
> liberation-respin1-binary-i386-3.iso
> -rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 658026496 4 Nov 14:31 wbel3-1.iso
> -rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 662417408 4 Nov 14:33 wbel3-2.iso
> -rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 498806784 4 Nov 14:35 wbel3-3.iso
>
> However, I copied all these ISO images to my Mac, mounted the images,
> and then did a "diff -r", and there was no difference found on any of
> the three disks. Can anyone explain how this is possible?
>
> Alfred
>
>
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From chris.audley@beacon-cs.com Fri Nov 5 17:18:26 2004
From: chris.audley@beacon-cs.com (Chris Audley)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:18:26 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
Message-ID:
Sounds like a block size issue, try using a specific blocksize. Doing a
little quick math, it looks like the LCD on the ISO images is 32K, so
try
Dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso bs=32768
See if that gives you any better results. The only reason this matters
is to get the MD5 checksums to match. The little extra padding that
gets added to the end of the image because of the large blocksize does
not negatively impact the integrity of the generated CD.
Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Alfred von Campe [mailto:alfred@110.net]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Chris Audley
Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
> You can use dd to make a copy of your ISO images off of the CD's.
>
> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
>
> When you are done, verify the md5sum against the checksums posted on
> the whitebox site to make sure you got a good copy.
I used the dd command to create new ISO images (and I also found the ISO
images sitting on a co-worker's computer). But their size was slightly
larger than the original ISOs, so of course the MD5 sums didn't match:
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 657719296 4 Nov 17:39
liberation-respin1-binary-i386-1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 662110208 4 Nov 17:58
liberation-respin1-binary-i386-2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 498499584 4 Nov 18:11
liberation-respin1-binary-i386-3.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 658026496 4 Nov 14:31 wbel3-1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 662417408 4 Nov 14:33 wbel3-2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 alfred staff 498806784 4 Nov 14:35 wbel3-3.iso
However, I copied all these ISO images to my Mac, mounted the images,
and then did a "diff -r", and there was no difference found on any of
the three disks. Can anyone explain how this is possible?
Alfred
From seth@integratedsolutions.org Fri Nov 5 18:12:11 2004
From: seth@integratedsolutions.org (Seth Bardash)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:12:11 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Kde-admin missing and found for WB 3.0
Message-ID: <200411051812.iA5ICHc27427@integratedsolutions.org>
TWIMC in charge of WB+kde implementation:
I was looking at our whitebox server and wanted to set up a cron
job.
Had used kcron in the past and was impressed with its ease of use.
Alas, kcron was missing from the disti. Its supposed to be in
kde-admin.
No kde-admin in disti. Was wondering why this is?
It was standard on most the kde installs I've seen so went looking
for it on the web.
Found the appropriate version in rpm form at:
ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/9/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS
kdeadmin-3.1-3.i386.rpm
Ran rpm -ivh kdeadmin-3.1-3.i386.rpm
Installed fine. Works great.
FYI for those that like a graphic interface to some of the admin
functions.
Seth Bardash
Integrated Solutions and Systems
1510 North Gate Road
Colorado Springs, CO 80921
http://www.integratedsolutions.org
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Fax: 719-495-5870
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From hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com Fri Nov 5 18:29:35 2004
From: hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:29:35 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Kde-admin missing and found for WB 3.0
In-Reply-To: <200411051812.iA5ICHc27427@integratedsolutions.org>
References: <200411051812.iA5ICHc27427@integratedsolutions.org>
Message-ID: <418BC68F.1060906@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
if a package is not in whitebox it is because redhat did not
include it in ther RHEL 3 version.
Seth Bardash wrote:
> TWIMC in charge of WB+kde implementation:
>
> I was looking at our whitebox server and wanted to set up a cron
> job.
>
> Had used kcron in the past and was impressed with its ease of use.
>
> Alas, kcron was missing from the disti. Its supposed to be in
> kde-admin.
>
> No kde-admin in disti. Was wondering why this is?
>
> It was standard on most the kde installs I've seen so went looking
> for it on the web.
>
> Found the appropriate version in rpm form at:
>
> ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/9/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS
>
> kdeadmin-3.1-3.i386.rpm
>
> Ran rpm -ivh kdeadmin-3.1-3.i386.rpm
>
> Installed fine. Works great.
>
> FYI for those that like a graphic interface to some of the admin
> functions.
>
> Seth Bardash
>
> Integrated Solutions and Systems
> 1510 North Gate Road
> Colorado Springs, CO 80921
>
> http://www.integratedsolutions.org
>
> Phone: 719-495-5866
> Fax: 719-495-5870
>
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> Windows, Linux, Solaris and VxWorks.
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From alfred@110.net Fri Nov 5 20:00:47 2004
From: alfred@110.net (Alfred von Campe)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:00:47 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <628EABF5-2F65-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
> Sounds like a block size issue, try using a specific blocksize. Doing
> a
> little quick math, it looks like the LCD on the ISO images is 32K, so
> try
>
> Dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso bs=32768
Alas, that didn't do the trick. The ISO image created by the above dd
command is identical to the one without the bs=32768. I also tried
using bs=16384 and bs=65536, but they both produce the same results as
dd=32768 or omitting bs entirely.
One thing to note that the size difference for all three ISO images
(between the originals and those created from the CDs with the dd
command) is 307200, which is 300*1024 (or 75*4096). Can anyone find
any relevance in this information?
At this point, I have resolved my original problem. I'm now just
trying to satisfy my curiosity.
Thanks,
Alfred
From weeboy@conorwynne.com Fri Nov 5 20:11:57 2004
From: weeboy@conorwynne.com (Conor Wynne)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:11:57 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To: <628EABF5-2F65-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
References:
<628EABF5-2F65-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
Message-ID: <1099685517.15844.1383.camel@snowwhite.conorwynne.com>
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On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 20:00, Alfred von Campe wrote:
> > Sounds like a block size issue, try using a specific blocksize. Doing=20
> > a
> > little quick math, it looks like the LCD on the ISO images is 32K, so
> > try
> >
> > Dd if=3D/dev/cdrom of=3Dimage.iso bs=3D32768
>=20
> Alas, that didn't do the trick. The ISO image created by the above dd=20
> command is identical to the one without the bs=3D32768. I also tried=20
> using bs=3D16384 and bs=3D65536, but they both produce the same results a=
s=20
> dd=3D32768 or omitting bs entirely.
>=20
> One thing to note that the size difference for all three ISO images=20
> (between the originals and those created from the CDs with the dd=20
> command) is 307200, which is 300*1024 (or 75*4096). Can anyone find=20
> any relevance in this information?
I think there is a problem with your CD. do an md5 sum to check. Or use
the test CD option pre-install time.
>=20
> At this point, I have resolved my original problem. I'm now just=20
> trying to satisfy my curiosity.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Alfred
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From alfred@110.net Fri Nov 5 20:22:12 2004
From: alfred@110.net (Alfred von Campe)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:22:12 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To: <1099685517.15844.1383.camel@snowwhite.conorwynne.com>
References: <628EABF5-2F65-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net> <1099685517.15844.1383.camel@snowwhite.conorwynne.com>
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> I think there is a problem with your CD. do an md5 sum to check. Or use
> the test CD option pre-install time.
I've done many installs with these CDs. And the fact that all three
CDs differ in size from the original ISO images by the same amount
can't be a coincidence. Also, the ISO images created with dd from the
CDs which were created from the original ISO images contain the same
exact information (I mounted the ISO images and did a diff -r). So I
don't think there is a problem with my CDs. The dd command somehow
creates ISO images that are 302,700 bytes larger than the original ISO
images, but they contain the exact same information.
Alfred
From chris.audley@beacon-cs.com Fri Nov 5 20:32:07 2004
From: chris.audley@beacon-cs.com (Chris Audley)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:32:07 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
Message-ID:
I noticed an option in DiskJuggler today called 'add post-gap'. When I
googled for more information I found this interesting little
paragraph...
Added an "Add post-gap to 3rd party .ISO images" to the "Advanced"
properties tab: if a post-gap (75 empty blocks) is not added at the end
of an .ISO image, the last file in the image may not be red correctly.
See http://www.padus.com/products/discjuggler/standard/history_830.php
So the extra bytes were probably added to the image on the disk during
the burning process. Now any attempt to retrieve the image from the
disk will include the extra blocks.
You can use head to retrieve the correct number of bytes from the file
and see if that gets you your original image (head -c 657719296
wbel3-1.iso > out.iso).
-----Original Message-----
From: Alfred von Campe [mailto:alfred@110.net]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:01 PM
To: Chris Audley
Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
> Sounds like a block size issue, try using a specific blocksize. Doing
> a little quick math, it looks like the LCD on the ISO images is 32K,
> so try
>
> Dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso bs=32768
Alas, that didn't do the trick. The ISO image created by the above dd
command is identical to the one without the bs=32768. I also tried
using bs=16384 and bs=65536, but they both produce the same results as
dd=32768 or omitting bs entirely.
One thing to note that the size difference for all three ISO images
(between the originals and those created from the CDs with the dd
command) is 307200, which is 300*1024 (or 75*4096). Can anyone find any
relevance in this information?
At this point, I have resolved my original problem. I'm now just trying
to satisfy my curiosity.
Thanks,
Alfred
From C Lance Moxley Fri Nov 5 20:36:42 2004
From: C Lance Moxley (C Lance Moxley)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:36:42 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
> Sounds like a block size issue, try using a specific blocksize. Doing a
> little quick math, it looks like the LCD on the ISO images is 32K, so
Use "isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom" on the cd. You'll likely see that the
logical block size is 2048. Doing a dd with bs=2048 should rip the
.iso properly. It has worked for me many times.
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From mnk_kulkarni@yahoo.com Fri Nov 5 20:54:41 2004
From: mnk_kulkarni@yahoo.com (nikhil kulkarni)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:54:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] genhdlist not generating new hdlist file.
Message-ID: <20041105205441.42565.qmail@web41628.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
I just installed wbel respin1, added a couple of new
packages in the RPMS directory, modified the comps.xml
file and ran genhdlist again to generate a new hdlist.
But the size of the file remains the same, when I run
the install the additional packages I specified are
not installed.
I duplicated the exact steps for rhel3 and they work
fine. Can someone else run the same steps and post
their observations.
Thanks,
Nik
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From alfred@110.net Fri Nov 5 21:06:44 2004
From: alfred@110.net (Alfred von Campe)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:06:44 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <98E7C190-2F6E-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
> Use "isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom" on the cd. You'll likely see that the
> logical block size is 2048. Doing a dd with bs=2048 should rip the
> .iso properly. It has worked for me many times.
No, that created an ISO image of the same size as the others. I think
Chris Audley hit the nail on the head in his response:
> Added an "Add post-gap to 3rd party .ISO images" to the "Advanced"
> properties tab: if a post-gap (75 empty blocks) is not added at the end
> of an .ISO image, the last file in the image may not be red correctly.
>
> See http://www.padus.com/products/discjuggler/standard/history_830.php
>
> So the extra bytes were probably added to the image on the disk during
> the burning process. Now any attempt to retrieve the image from the
> disk will include the extra blocks.
Geez, there is that number 75 again. Can't be a coincidence!
> You can use head to retrieve the correct number of bytes from the file
> and see if that gets you your original image (head -c 657719296
> wbel3-1.iso > out.iso).
DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner. Truncating the ISO image to
the same size as the original ISO image did the trick -- even the MD5
sums match up. Case closed!
Thanks everyone for all their help,
Alfred
From WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info Fri Nov 5 14:51:34 2004
From: WBEL-User02@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:51:34 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To: <4E439A1F-2F34-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
References: <4E439A1F-2F34-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
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Alfred von Campe wrote:
===
> images sitting on a co-worker's computer). But their size was slightly
> larger than the original ISOs, so of course the MD5 sums didn't match:
===
> and then did a "diff -r", and there was no difference found on any of
> the three disks. Can anyone explain how this is possible?
===
I've run into this, as well. The CD-R has the data on it, plus
some padding. When you md5sum the ISO file, you're hashing just its
data. When you md5sum the CD-R, you're hashing the data and the
padding. See these websites for info:
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From weage98@yahoo.com Sat Nov 6 02:37:41 2004
From: weage98@yahoo.com (Joshua Weage)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 18:37:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Creating ISO images from CDs
In-Reply-To: <98E7C190-2F6E-11D9-9A85-000A957D6954@110.net>
Message-ID: <20041106023741.9167.qmail@web40403.mail.yahoo.com>
Seems like there is already a solution to this problem. However, just
to mention it, there is also a program called readcd that will copy a
cd image to a file. The man page isn't all that useful, but I've used
"readcd -clone" with success. I'm not sure what it does differently
from dd.
Josh
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From jean.lee@free.fr Sat Nov 6 08:54:07 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 09:54:07 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Last Opennssh version and how to create WBEL rpm from last sources.
Message-ID: <418C912F.4050500@free.fr>
Hello,
I see that openssh is the ssh server for WBEL and, in the updates
mirror, the last version for WBEL is openssh 3.6.1. On the Openssh
website, it's the 3.9.1. How can I do to take their last sources (or
anything else) and then create my own rpm for WBEL?
What do I have to do then to give it (place it on an FTP server) to
other WBEL users?
Thanks for any help,
Jean Lee
From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Sat Nov 6 09:32:47 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:32:47 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Last Opennssh version and how to create WBEL rpm
from last sources.
In-Reply-To: <418C912F.4050500@free.fr>
References: <418C912F.4050500@free.fr>
Message-ID: <1099733567.19759.15.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 09:54 +0100, Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I see that openssh is the ssh server for WBEL and, in the updates
> mirror, the last version for WBEL is openssh 3.6.1. On the Openssh
> website, it's the 3.9.1. How can I do to take their last sources (or
> anything else) and then create my own rpm for WBEL?
>
> What do I have to do then to give it (place it on an FTP server) to
> other WBEL users?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Jean Lee
> _______________________________________________
RedHat does something called "back porting", where they roll bug and
security fixes from newer versions back into older versions of installed
software.
Here is the info RedHat has concerning backporting:
https://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_backport.html
Since SSH is also used by Apache and SendMail/Postfix (for TLS), and I'm
sure several other things, upgrading the version could effect other
parts of your system.
Unless you are going to check for updates to SSH everyday, and generate
new install RPMs whenever a security issue is fixed, and ensure
integration with all other RPMS installed on your system (upgrading
those as necessary as well) I would highly recommend that you stay with
the RHEL / WBEL rpms.
I do sometimes produce RPMS and put them on my server, but I would not
recommend them for use on a production server.
Just my $0.02 ...
-----------------------
Johnny Hughes
From jean.lee@free.fr Sat Nov 6 12:33:54 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:33:54 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH as an FTP server
Message-ID: <418CC4B2.5090100@free.fr>
Hello all,
I am using sshd as an FTP server but I have a problem :
I want to give a per user connection. For example when 'client1' is
connected, he can see only it's root directory (/usr/FTP/client1) and
when 'client2' is connected, he can see only the directory
/usr/FTP/client2. Each client can't see (like with an FTP server) any
other directory.
I can give restricted permissions but what I really want is to chroot
'client1' to /usr/FTP/client1 and chroot 'client2' to /usr/FTP/client2.
Is there a way to do it ? I searched in the manual and on the openssh
website and didn't find.
Thanks for any help,
Jean
From randykel@swbell.net Sat Nov 6 14:17:17 2004
From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:17:17 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Last Opennssh version and how to create WBEL rpm
from last sources.
In-Reply-To: <418C912F.4050500@free.fr>
References: <418C912F.4050500@free.fr>
Message-ID: <418CDCED.6020008@swbell.net>
Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I see that openssh is the ssh server for WBEL and, in the updates
> mirror, the last version for WBEL is openssh 3.6.1. On the Openssh
> website, it's the 3.9.1. How can I do to take their last sources (or
> anything else) and then create my own rpm for WBEL?
>
> What do I have to do then to give it (place it on an FTP server) to
> other WBEL users?
>
Checkinstall is good for this
(http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/). You can get the tarball
for a package, untar it, do your ./configure and make, and where you
normally do a 'make install', you type checkinstall. This will build and
install an RPM for you for the package.
If you are looking for the latest security updates, they might already
be in your current ssh version. RedHat will often patch their version
with the latest security fixes, and keep a lower version number than is
current.
Once you create the RPM's you can put them on a website and give your
users a link on where to download them.
From randykel@swbell.net Sat Nov 6 14:40:37 2004
From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:40:37 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH as an FTP server
In-Reply-To: <418CC4B2.5090100@free.fr>
References: <418CC4B2.5090100@free.fr>
Message-ID: <418CE265.9050705@swbell.net>
Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am using sshd as an FTP server but I have a problem :
>
> I want to give a per user connection. For example when 'client1' is
> connected, he can see only it's root directory (/usr/FTP/client1) and
> when 'client2' is connected, he can see only the directory
> /usr/FTP/client2. Each client can't see (like with an FTP server) any
> other directory.
> I can give restricted permissions but what I really want is to chroot
> 'client1' to /usr/FTP/client1 and chroot 'client2' to /usr/FTP/client2.
>
> Is there a way to do it ? I searched in the manual and on the openssh
> website and didn't find.
>
Google is your friend (I searched for 'creating a chroot jail ssh' and
found this):
http://www.netadmintools.com/art294.html
From webmaster@ew3d.com Sat Nov 6 23:47:01 2004
From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:47:01 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Generating a PEM key
Message-ID: <418D6275.60504@ew3d.com>
OK, seems that Apache wants a PEM encoded key? Or at least from what I
read in the ssl.conf file. So, I ran
openssl req -new -key key.pem -out req.pem
but Thawte tells me this is not a PEM encoded request? So, did I miss
something or is Thawte missing something?
Thanks,
John Hinton
From jim@well.com Sun Nov 7 02:52:33 2004
From: jim@well.com (jim stockford)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:52:33 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] newbie: how to get ftpd started
Message-ID: <1317621B-3068-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
on white box
the man page for ftpd doesn't spell out a command or
a configuration file, though it suggests xinetd and services.
Information for xinetd and services doesn't yield, either.
what command to use to start (and stop) ftpd?
in which conf file to put such a command (or corresponding
specifications)?
hopefully,
jim
From dpandori@nycap.rr.com Sun Nov 7 03:27:23 2004
From: dpandori@nycap.rr.com (Don Pandori)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:27:23 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Generating a PEM key
In-Reply-To: <418D6275.60504@ew3d.com>
References: <418D6275.60504@ew3d.com>
Message-ID: <20041107032446.M96299@ltionline.com>
John,
Check this out:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/ssl/ssl_faq.html
There's a step by step process documented for what you're asking.
HTH - Don
---------- Original Message -----------
From: John Hinton
To: Whitebox Users
Sent: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:47:01 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Generating a PEM key
> OK, seems that Apache wants a PEM encoded key? Or at least from what I
> read in the ssl.conf file. So, I ran
>
> openssl req -new -key key.pem -out req.pem
>
> but Thawte tells me this is not a PEM encoded request? So, did I miss
> something or is Thawte missing something?
>
> Thanks,
> John Hinton
> _______________________________________________
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> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
------- End of Original Message -------
From jim@well.com Sun Nov 7 04:14:14 2004
From: jim@well.com (jim stockford)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:14:14 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] vsftpd is ftpd! but how to connect?
Message-ID: <7C311B76-3073-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
ftp has got a different name, starts with 'v' as in vsftpd.
so I can start (and stop) it
# /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
and ps -alx shows it's running, but when I try to connect,
connection times out.
So I'm guessing I don't understand things in
/etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf
I saved the original file as
/etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confORG
and saved my edits as /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confNEW
/etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf is a copy of either *ORG or *NEW,
depending on what state I'm in (depressed or hopeful).
right now, I'm both depressed and
hopefully,
jim
From webmaster@ew3d.com Sun Nov 7 05:15:19 2004
From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 00:15:19 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] vsftpd is ftpd! but how to connect?
In-Reply-To: <7C311B76-3073-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
References: <7C311B76-3073-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
Message-ID: <418DAF67.2090007@ew3d.com>
Try turning off passive mode in your ftp client. If that doesn't work,
take a look in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf and have a nice long read on all
the potential settings you may configure. It is a very flexible program.
Best,
John Hinton
jim stockford wrote:
>
>
> ftp has got a different name, starts with 'v' as in vsftpd.
>
> so I can start (and stop) it
> # /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
>
> and ps -alx shows it's running, but when I try to connect,
> connection times out.
>
> So I'm guessing I don't understand things in
> /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf
>
> I saved the original file as
> /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confORG
> and saved my edits as /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confNEW
>
> /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf is a copy of either *ORG or *NEW,
> depending on what state I'm in (depressed or hopeful).
>
> right now, I'm both depressed and
> hopefully,
> jim
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From rval@acm.org Sun Nov 7 13:27:25 2004
From: rval@acm.org (Raymond Val)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 08:27:25 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] vsftpd is ftpd! but how to connect?
In-Reply-To: <418DAF67.2090007@ew3d.com>
Message-ID: <200411071327.iA7DRfYW027743@library.beau.org>
Jim,
In addition to this, make sure that your firewall is allowing ftp and ftpd
if you are using the firewall on the machine.
Also, check to see if /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow are in use.
Ray Val
-----Original Message-----
From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org]
On Behalf Of John Hinton
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 00:15
To: jim stockford
Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] vsftpd is ftpd! but how to connect?
Try turning off passive mode in your ftp client. If that doesn't work,
take a look in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf and have a nice long read on all
the potential settings you may configure. It is a very flexible program.
Best,
John Hinton
jim stockford wrote:
>
>
> ftp has got a different name, starts with 'v' as in vsftpd.
>
> so I can start (and stop) it
> # /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
>
> and ps -alx shows it's running, but when I try to connect,
> connection times out.
>
> So I'm guessing I don't understand things in
> /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf
>
> I saved the original file as
> /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confORG
> and saved my edits as /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confNEW
>
> /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf is a copy of either *ORG or *NEW,
> depending on what state I'm in (depressed or hopeful).
>
> right now, I'm both depressed and
> hopefully,
> jim
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
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From jscott@cpinternet.com Sun Nov 7 15:51:53 2004
From: jscott@cpinternet.com (JJ)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 09:51:53 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] newbie: how to get ftpd started
In-Reply-To: <1317621B-3068-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
Message-ID: <200411071551.iA7Fp1fp013271@mail.cpinternet.com>
Not sure bout the ftpd, but vsftp....
rpm -qa |grep vsftp
If not, yum install vsftpd
Config File: /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf
Init script: /etc/init.d/vsftpd start | stop | restart
Enable in runlevels: chkconfig vsftpd on
chkconfig --list vsftpd
More Help: man vsftpd.conf
J.J.
-----Original Message-----
-on white box
-the man page for ftpd doesn't spell out a command or a configuration file,
though it suggests xinetd and services.
-Information for xinetd and services doesn't yield, either.
-what command to use to start (and stop) ftpd?
-in which conf file to put such a command (or corresponding specifications)?
-hopefully,
-jim
From Greg Knaddison Sun Nov 7 22:30:26 2004
From: Greg Knaddison (Greg Knaddison)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:30:26 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] vsftpd is ftpd! but how to connect?
In-Reply-To: <200411071327.iA7DRfYW027743@library.beau.org>
References: <418DAF67.2090007@ew3d.com>
<200411071327.iA7DRfYW027743@library.beau.org>
Message-ID: <3861c6770411071430680a3e2e@mail.gmail.com>
When vsftpd starts, by default it checks for the config file in
/etc/vsftpd.conf - not in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf So, the file you
are editing in the vsftpd subdirectory is not actually being used -
unless you have made a special argument in your command line to take
care of that.. I spent a lot of time working on my
/etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf and pounding the keyboard until I read the man
page and saw this:
>From man vsftpd.conf:
"By default, vsftpd looks for this file at the location
/etc/vsftpd.conf. However, you may override this by specifying a
command line argument to vsftpd. "
Then everything was happy ;)
Greg
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 08:27:25 -0500, Raymond Val wrote:
> Jim,
>
> In addition to this, make sure that your firewall is allowing ftp and ftpd
> if you are using the firewall on the machine.
>
> Also, check to see if /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow are in use.
>
> Ray Val
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org]
> On Behalf Of John Hinton
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 00:15
> To: jim stockford
> Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
> Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] vsftpd is ftpd! but how to connect?
>
> Try turning off passive mode in your ftp client. If that doesn't work,
> take a look in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf and have a nice long read on all
> the potential settings you may configure. It is a very flexible program.
>
> Best,
> John Hinton
>
> jim stockford wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > ftp has got a different name, starts with 'v' as in vsftpd.
> >
> > so I can start (and stop) it
> > # /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
> >
> > and ps -alx shows it's running, but when I try to connect,
> > connection times out.
> >
> > So I'm guessing I don't understand things in
> > /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf
> >
> > I saved the original file as
> > /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confORG
> > and saved my edits as /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.confNEW
> >
> > /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf is a copy of either *ORG or *NEW,
> > depending on what state I'm in (depressed or hopeful).
> >
> > right now, I'm both depressed and
> > hopefully,
> > jim
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
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>
From david@uzzell.com.au Sun Nov 7 23:02:33 2004
From: david@uzzell.com.au (David Uzzell Jnr)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:02:33 +1100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Issues on a server started 12 hours ago :(
Message-ID: <418EA989.7000601@uzzell.com.au>
WHitebox 3 respin 1
this is out of /var/log/messages
Nov 8 09:56:19 garth kernel: Device 08:05 not ready.
Nov 8 09:56:19 garth kernel: I/O error: dev 08:05, sector 3674464
If I try to run top
[root@garth root]# top
-bash: /usr/bin/top: Input/output error
The server is a Dual PIII 1.4GHz with 3.5Gb ram running an Adaptec RAID5
I have checked the RAID array to make sure it is not a failure of a
drive but it is online.
Does anyone have any ideas what this might be?
--
David Uzzell
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Sun Nov 7 23:42:55 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 15:42:55 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] vsftpd is ftpd! but how to connect?
In-Reply-To: <418DAF67.2090007@ew3d.com>
References: <7C311B76-3073-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com> <418DAF67.2090007@ew3d.com>
Message-ID: <418EB2FF.3060409@platypus.bc.ca>
John Hinton wrote:
> Try turning off passive mode in your ftp client. If that doesn't work,
> take a look in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf and have a nice long read on all
> the potential settings you may configure. It is a very flexible program.
.. just not as flexible as the decade-older app it's trying to replace!
That, and a series of annoyances with this half-baked but potentially
useful app, is why I tried Pro and one other whose name escapes me
before settling back to Wu.
IMHO, vsftpd was one of the more egregious examples of 'shiny-things
creep' in RH8, shipment of half-baked featureless and documentation-free
packages whose only claim to fame was being so new that their one-man
devel team hadn't had to deal with a real bug yet.
- bish
--
From randykel@swbell.net Mon Nov 8 05:22:14 2004
From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:22:14 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Issues on a server started 12 hours ago :(
In-Reply-To: <418EA989.7000601@uzzell.com.au>
References: <418EA989.7000601@uzzell.com.au>
Message-ID: <418F0286.2000901@swbell.net>
David Uzzell Jnr wrote:
> WHitebox 3 respin 1
>
>
> this is out of /var/log/messages
>
> Nov 8 09:56:19 garth kernel: Device 08:05 not ready.
> Nov 8 09:56:19 garth kernel: I/O error: dev 08:05, sector 3674464
>
Device 08:05 is /dev/sda5 so take a look at that. See if you can umount
the drive and run fsck on it.
From jean.lee@free.fr Mon Nov 8 11:18:48 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:18:48 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH as an FTP server
In-Reply-To: <20041106222203.60490.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041106222203.60490.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <418F5618.5070806@free.fr>
Hello Brett,
Thanks a lot for your answer. It's just what I want.
Just a question : Does jail make sshd more vulnerable ?
Is it a better solution than to patch Openssh with chrootssh (
http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/ )?
Regards,
Jean
Brett Moss wrote:
>--- Jean Lee wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am using sshd as an FTP server but I have a
>>problem :
>>
>>I want to give a per user connection. For example
>>when 'client1' is
>>connected, he can see only it's root directory
>>(/usr/FTP/client1) and
>>when 'client2' is connected, he can see only the
>>directory
>>/usr/FTP/client2. Each client can't see (like with
>>an FTP server) any
>>other directory.
>>I can give restricted permissions but what I really
>>want is to chroot
>>'client1' to /usr/FTP/client1 and chroot 'client2'
>>to /usr/FTP/client2.
>>
>>Is there a way to do it ? I searched in the manual
>>and on the openssh
>>website and didn't find.
>>
>>Thanks for any help,
>>
>>Jean
>>
>>
>
>hello,
>have a look at this project, i'm using it for what you
>are asking for
>
>http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/
>
>hth,
>brett
>
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From weeboy@conorwynne.com Mon Nov 8 12:20:04 2004
From: weeboy@conorwynne.com (Conor Wynne)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:20:04 -0000 (GMT)
Subject: [WBEL-users] SAMBA3 NT4 PDC auth
Message-ID: <16497.213.94.228.211.1099916404.squirrel@213.94.228.211>
Hi all,
I am forgetting something obvious:
I have an NT4 (SBS) PDC for auth, samba-3.0.6-2.3E, and 'wbinfo -u' tell me:
[root@as3 root]# wbinfo -u
NOSSERS+Administrator
NOSSERS+conor
NOSSERS+diego
NOSSERS+Guest
NOSSERS+IUSR_SBSNT4
But when I try and access the server through network neighbourhood, I cannot.
What have I forgotten?
I have the flu, boohoo.
--
Conor Wynne,
Dublin,
Irlande.
From webmaster@ew3d.com Mon Nov 8 13:38:45 2004
From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 08:38:45 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Generating a PEM key
In-Reply-To: <20041107032446.M96299@ltionline.com>
References: <418D6275.60504@ew3d.com> <20041107032446.M96299@ltionline.com>
Message-ID: <418F76E5.2070201@ew3d.com>
Does anyone know if the default server.key generated at install time is
in PEM format? Sorry to be bothering the list, but I'm trying not to run
around in circles here and having to submit new requests and waiting for
a day or two for the new cert..... again.
John Hinton
>
>
>
>>OK, seems that Apache wants a PEM encoded key? Or at least from what I
>>read in the ssl.conf file. So, I ran
>>
>>openssl req -new -key key.pem -out req.pem
>>
>>but Thawte tells me this is not a PEM encoded request? So, did I miss
>>something or is Thawte missing something?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>John Hinton
>>
>>
From rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu Mon Nov 8 16:23:38 2004
From: rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu (Orlando Rubino)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:23:38 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] WhiteBox in the Government
References: <16497.213.94.228.211.1099916404.squirrel@213.94.228.211>
Message-ID: <01ee01c4c5af$4da5b2b0$058610ac@decont>
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.electoral-vote.com
--
___________________________________
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Administración UONet
Email = rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu
Email = orlando_rubino@yahoo.com
Fax = 1(360) 351 - 0681
Phone = 632138
____________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Conor Wynne"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:20 AM
Subject: [WBEL-users] SAMBA3 NT4 PDC auth
> Hi all,
>
> I am forgetting something obvious:
>
> I have an NT4 (SBS) PDC for auth, samba-3.0.6-2.3E, and 'wbinfo -u' tell
me:
>
> [root@as3 root]# wbinfo -u
> NOSSERS+Administrator
> NOSSERS+conor
> NOSSERS+diego
> NOSSERS+Guest
> NOSSERS+IUSR_SBSNT4
>
> But when I try and access the server through network neighbourhood, I
cannot.
>
> What have I forgotten?
> I have the flu, boohoo.
>
> --
> Conor Wynne,
> Dublin,
> Irlande.
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu Mon Nov 8 16:23:35 2004
From: rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu (Orlando Rubino)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:23:35 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] WhiteBox in the Government
References: <16497.213.94.228.211.1099916404.squirrel@213.94.228.211>
Message-ID: <01ed01c4c5af$4bc16250$058610ac@decont>
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.electoral-vote.com
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Email = orlando_rubino@yahoo.com
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Phone = 632138
____________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Conor Wynne"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:20 AM
Subject: [WBEL-users] SAMBA3 NT4 PDC auth
> Hi all,
>
> I am forgetting something obvious:
>
> I have an NT4 (SBS) PDC for auth, samba-3.0.6-2.3E, and 'wbinfo -u' tell
me:
>
> [root@as3 root]# wbinfo -u
> NOSSERS+Administrator
> NOSSERS+conor
> NOSSERS+diego
> NOSSERS+Guest
> NOSSERS+IUSR_SBSNT4
>
> But when I try and access the server through network neighbourhood, I
cannot.
>
> What have I forgotten?
> I have the flu, boohoo.
>
> --
> Conor Wynne,
> Dublin,
> Irlande.
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> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From brettsspot@yahoo.com Mon Nov 8 16:40:52 2004
From: brettsspot@yahoo.com (Brett Moss)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 08:40:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH as an FTP server
In-Reply-To: <418F5618.5070806@free.fr>
Message-ID: <20041108164052.65672.qmail@web50208.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello Brett,
>
> Thanks a lot for your answer. It's just what I want.
> Just a question : Does jail make sshd more
> vulnerable ?
> Is it a better solution than to patch Openssh with
> chrootssh (
> http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/ )?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean
>
hello,
i'm not sure i can answer that question. i suggest
you post it to the two projects mailing lists. i sure
would be interested in the results of that question.
i can say though i have used jail (
http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/ ) for quite
some time with no problems at all.
good luck,
brett
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From jean.lee@free.fr Mon Nov 8 17:28:39 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:28:39 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] newbie: how to get ftpd started
In-Reply-To: <1317621B-3068-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
References: <1317621B-3068-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
Message-ID: <418FACC7.7050206@free.fr>
I think you should better use vsftpd. It is the ftp server which is
included with WBEL.
After install, you can start/stop it with :
chkconfig vsftpd on/off.
You can also activate through the general menu :
Menu-> Systemn settings ->Server settings-> services
For more informations :
man vsftpd
man vsftpd.conf
or google
Hope this helps
Jean
jim stockford wrote:
>
>
> on white box
> the man page for ftpd doesn't spell out a command or
> a configuration file, though it suggests xinetd and services.
> Information for xinetd and services doesn't yield, either.
>
> what command to use to start (and stop) ftpd?
> in which conf file to put such a command (or corresponding
> specifications)?
>
> hopefully,
> jim
>
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>
>
From Maartin Barac Mon Nov 8 18:06:04 2004
From: Maartin Barac (Maartin Barac)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:06:04 +0200
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To:
References:
<009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask>
<418563B1.6050804@knology.net> <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
<4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
<1099351463.24111.187.camel@dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
<41871235.3060507@TheMoreIKnow.info>
Message-ID:
gmail rocks man this conversation feature is just so cool I love it.
I have been a user now only for 23 months not a single spam message as
yet not via a list or directly.
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 01:09:59 -0600, psychoelmo wrote:
> with the giga-wars in the free email business, i'd suggest picking up
> a gmail account for mailing lists, and only them (there's plenty of
> sites offering invites w/o a catch). a gig of storage, message
> threading, and easy searches, can't really beat it for list mail. the
> ads? hardly notice them. most threads are longer than the first
> screen, and the ads (text only) are only "above the fold".
>
> i find it a great place to stash high-volume lists like debian's.
> their spam filters aren't bad, they miss some though. they'll improve
> over time, i suppose. most of the spam is actually sent to a list, not
> to my address itself. i also like that i can look and google through
> old list mails at home or at work. a heck of a lot easier than digging
> through the actual list archive itself, especially if you're looking
> for something but dont remember exactly which list it was in. but i
> dread the time i have to go back and clean out old mail to make room
> for more. they haven't implemented an easy way to delete quantities of
> mail yet. (got a few months to go before i run out of space though :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From jason@coalescentsystems.ca Mon Nov 8 16:26:23 2004
From: jason@coalescentsystems.ca (Jason Becker)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:26:23 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] OT - Re: WhiteBox in the Government
Message-ID: <418F9E2F.6090205@coalescentsystems.ca>
Very interesting, considering that the Votemaster is none other than
Andrew Tanenbaum:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/info/votemaster-faq.html
You'd think an organization he's associated with would be running an OS
with a microkernel. ;-)
Cheers
--
Jason Becker
Director & CEO
Coalescent Systems Inc.
403.244.8089
www.coalescentsystems.ca
From fernandodiaz@titsa.com Mon Nov 8 19:01:01 2004
From: fernandodiaz@titsa.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_J._D=EDaz_Vilela?=)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:01:01 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] mount: error 6 mounting ext3
Message-ID: <001901c4c5c5$4a510770$0a02a8c0@FJDVPC>
Hello All penguins:
I'm trying to upgrade kernel from 2.4 to 2.6.22 and when I reboot it with
new kernel break with kernel panic, displaying the next:
...
Mounting root filesystem
Mount: error 6 mounting ext3
Pivotroot: pivot_root (/sysroot, /sysroot/initrd) failed: 2
Umount /initrd/proc failed: 2
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 204 freed
Kernel Panic: No init found, try passing init= option to kernel
I read same docs but I don't know what I did wrong, can you help me?
I can reboot with old kernel (see 5.- lilo) to do changes.
*1.- I upgrade gcc, make, binutils, util-linux, module-init-tools,
efs2progs, jfsutils, reiserfsprogs, xfsprogs, pcmcia-cs, quota-tools, PPP,
isdn4k-utils, nfs-utils, procps and oprofile to the last version as say in
Documentation/Changes,
*2.- I configure it with ext3 support (it's file systems part of .config)):
#
# File systems
#
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y
# CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL is not set
# CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY is not set
CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
# CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR is not set
CONFIG_JBD=y
# CONFIG_JBD_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_FS_MBCACHE=y
CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set
# CONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO is not set
# CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR is not set
# CONFIG_JFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_XFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS=y
#
# CD-ROM/DVD Filesystems
#
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y
CONFIG_JOLIET=y
# CONFIG_ZISOFS is not set
# CONFIG_UDF_FS is not set
#
# DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems
#
CONFIG_FAT_FS=y
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y
CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437
CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1"
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
#
# Pseudo filesystems
#
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_PROC_KCORE=y
CONFIG_SYSFS=y
CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y
CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y
# CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS_XATTR is not set
CONFIG_TMPFS=y
# CONFIG_HUGETLBFS is not set
# CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE is not set
CONFIG_RAMFS=y
#
# Miscellaneous filesystems
#
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_HFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS is not set
CONFIG_BEFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_BEFS_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_EFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_CRAMFS=m
CONFIG_VXFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
CONFIG_SYSV_FS=m
CONFIG_UFS_FS=m
*3.- My gcc is version 3.2.3-20
*4.- I launch make clean ; make bzImage ; make modules ; make
modules_install ; make install
*5.- I edit lilo like:
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
message=/boot/message
lba32
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1.27Oct2004
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.8.1.27Oct2004.img
read-only
append="root=LABEL=/"
root=/dev/hda2
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-4.EL
label=linux-2.4
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-4.EL.img
read-only
append="root=LABEL=/"
*6.- And it is my /etc/fstab:
LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
None /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
None /proc proc defaults 0 0
None /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda3 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
none /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
Thanks for your time!
Fernando J. Dķaz Vilela
Técnico de Sistemas
Dirección de Informįtica
Transportes Interurbanos de Tenerife S.A.U.
Polķgono Cuevas Blancas, Manzana 4, C/Punta de Anaga, 1
38109 - Santa Cruz de Tenerife - ESPAŃA
Tlf.- 922 479 500 Extensión 152
Fax 922 479 502
e-mail: fernandodiaz@titsa.com
From israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu Mon Nov 8 20:19:24 2004
From: israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu (israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:19:24 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] SATA RAID problem!
Message-ID: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
I am running WB3.0 respin 1, my server is an INTEL D865PERL (ICH5 chipset) with
two HDD 80 GB each, so my instalation recognized 2 SCSI (sda and sdb) drives, I
have read on the net that I have to install first WB in a PATA hdd, download a
recent kernel and change the RAID to the new HDD...
My question:
How can I install WB in this computer using RAID with this hard drives?
What vertion of the kernel support ICH5 SATA RAID?
What can I do?
regards...
Israel Garcia Alvarez
Linux Counter User #196178
Corporacion CIMEX Villa Clara
From israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu Mon Nov 8 20:19:24 2004
From: israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu (israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:19:24 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] SATA RAID problem!
Message-ID: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
I am running WB3.0 respin 1, my server is an INTEL D865PERL (ICH5 chipset) with
two HDD 80 GB each, so my instalation recognized 2 SCSI (sda and sdb) drives, I
have read on the net that I have to install first WB in a PATA hdd, download a
recent kernel and change the RAID to the new HDD...
My question:
How can I install WB in this computer using RAID with this hard drives?
What vertion of the kernel support ICH5 SATA RAID?
What can I do?
regards...
Israel Garcia Alvarez
Linux Counter User #196178
Corporacion CIMEX Villa Clara
From israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu Mon Nov 8 20:19:24 2004
From: israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu (israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:19:24 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] SATA RAID problem!
Message-ID: <0411081099.AA1099945806@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
I am running WB3.0 respin 1, my server is an INTEL D865PERL (ICH5 chipset) with
two HDD 80 GB each, so my instalation recognized 2 SCSI (sda and sdb) drives, I
have read on the net that I have to install first WB in a PATA hdd, download a
recent kernel and change the RAID to the new HDD...
My question:
How can I install WB in this computer using RAID with this hard drives?
What vertion of the kernel support ICH5 SATA RAID?
What can I do?
regards...
Israel Garcia Alvarez
Linux Counter User #196178
Corporacion CIMEX Villa Clara
From israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu Mon Nov 8 20:19:24 2004
From: israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu (israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:19:24 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] SATA RAID problem!
Message-ID: <0411081099.AA1099945806@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
I am running WB3.0 respin 1, my server is an INTEL D865PERL (ICH5 chipset) with
two HDD 80 GB each, so my instalation recognized 2 SCSI (sda and sdb) drives, I
have read on the net that I have to install first WB in a PATA hdd, download a
recent kernel and change the RAID to the new HDD...
My question:
How can I install WB in this computer using RAID with this hard drives?
What vertion of the kernel support ICH5 SATA RAID?
What can I do?
regards...
Israel Garcia Alvarez
Linux Counter User #196178
Corporacion CIMEX Villa Clara
From gri0941@uta.edu Mon Nov 8 19:56:19 2004
From: gri0941@uta.edu (Ganeshram Iyer)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:56:19 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] 60GB HD
In-Reply-To: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
References: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
Message-ID: <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu>
I know this question is not Whitebox specific but I had a question
regarding a 60GB USB HD which I want to mount and format using Whitebox.
What file system do I need to use to ensure that this HD can be read
using both Window as well Linux?
Thanks in advance for your comments/answers/suggestions.
Ganesh
From rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu Mon Nov 8 20:07:36 2004
From: rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu (Orlando Rubino)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:07:36 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] OT - Re: WhiteBox in the Government
References: <418F9E2F.6090205@coalescentsystems.ca>
Message-ID: <002a01c4c5ce$9746f040$058610ac@decont>
Whitebox with microkernel? that good!!!!
--
___________________________________
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Email = rubino@deco.uo.edu.cu
Email = orlando_rubino@yahoo.com
Fax = 1(360) 351 - 0681
Phone = 632138
____________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Becker"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: [WBEL-users] OT - Re: WhiteBox in the Government
> Very interesting, considering that the Votemaster is none other than
> Andrew Tanenbaum:
>
> http://www.electoral-vote.com/info/votemaster-faq.html
>
> You'd think an organization he's associated with would be running an OS
> with a microkernel. ;-)
>
> Cheers
> --
> Jason Becker
> Director & CEO
> Coalescent Systems Inc.
> 403.244.8089
> www.coalescentsystems.ca
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From temp_1@bluewin.ch Mon Nov 8 21:13:05 2004
From: temp_1@bluewin.ch (Eric Andrieux)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:13:05 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Generating a PEM key
In-Reply-To: <20041108180001.22709.86704.Mailman@library.beau.org>
Message-ID:
The default server.key is valid (I hope so) but created with
localhost.localdomain, so unless you don't give any name to your server
you'll have to create another key which match your domain. I personally
followed with fedora how-to with success:
http://sxs.thexdershome.com/internet_serving/apache2.html#MOD_SSL
> Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Generating a PEM key
>
> Does anyone know if the default server.key generated at install time is
> in PEM format? Sorry to be bothering the list, but I'm trying not to run
> around in circles here and having to submit new requests and waiting for
> a day or two for the new cert..... again.
>
> John Hinton
From cameron@gwschool.com Mon Nov 8 21:48:01 2004
From: cameron@gwschool.com (Cameron Showalter)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:48:01 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] 60GB HD
In-Reply-To: <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu>
References: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu> <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu>
Message-ID: <418FE991.4090601@gwschool.com>
So, you want to view files from linux in windows and vice versa?
AFAIK, windows won't read extX, reiserfs, jfs, etc... and you will most
likely run into problem(s) installing linux on a fat32 partition.
why not try mounting /ddrive or some similar name as a fat32 partition
and you'd be able to move files from either linux or win?
From tcooper@starpower.net Mon Nov 8 22:03:35 2004
From: tcooper@starpower.net (Tom Cooper)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:03:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] 60GB HD
In-Reply-To: <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu>
References: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
<418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu>
Message-ID: <4508.216.164.48.102.1099951415.squirrel@216.164.48.102>
Ganeshram Iyer said:
> I know this question is not Whitebox specific but I had a question
> regarding a 60GB USB HD which I want to mount and format using Whitebox.
> What file system do I need to use to ensure that this HD can be read
> using both Window as well Linux?
The limitation is primarily on the Windows side. Linux can natively read
and write many different filesystems.
Depending on your needs, you will probably want to choose Fat32 as the
partition type. Fat32 will allow you to create a filesystem that large,
but (with fairly large allocation units.)
You don't mention whether you're talking about 98, ME, XP Home, or XP Pro.
The XP flavors will read and write NTFS, too, but linux support for read
and write of NTFS partitions is not mainstream yet.
Remember that FAT32 does not support permissions, so the entire volume
will be read/write for all users while Windows is booted. You can exert
some control over read/write for the partition under Linux by modifying
the mount permissions.
Hope this helps.
From javanree@vanree.net Mon Nov 8 22:11:08 2004
From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:11:08 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] 60GB HD
In-Reply-To: <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu>
References: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu> <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu>
Message-ID: <200411082311.08182.javanree@vanree.net>
On Monday 08 November 2004 20:56, Ganeshram Iyer wrote:
> I know this question is not Whitebox specific but I had a question
> regarding a 60GB USB HD which I want to mount and format using Whitebox.
> What file system do I need to use to ensure that this HD can be read
> using both Window as well Linux?
If just reading under Linux is sufficient, and write/read under Windows, you
can use NTFS, and grab the NTFS package and build your own RPM's (or fetch
them somewhere, I've got NTFS RPM's at
http://www.vanree.net/wbel30/personal/ , they need to match your WBEL
kernel!) I mount my Windows XP partition this way. I used FAT32 for my
games/"data" partition (real data never goes beyond my Linux install, thus
on EXT3)
If you want to read+write under Linux you're stuck with FAT32 as far as I
know, and you'll have to split the disk, FAT32 IIRC doesn't go beyond about
32 GB.
--
Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/
VanRee IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net
From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Nov 9 02:00:24 2004
From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:00:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] mount: error 6 mounting ext3
Message-ID: <1203.192.168.0.254.1099965624.squirrel@whooper.org>
Fernando J. Dķaz Vilela said:
> Hello All penguins:
[snip]
> *4.- I launch make clean ; make bzImage ; make modules ; make
> modules_install ; make install
>
> *5.- I edit lilo like:
[snip]
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1.27Oct2004
> label=linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.8.1.27Oct2004.img
> read-only
> append="root=LABEL=/"
> root=/dev/hda2
Did you create the initrd after compiling the kernel?
--
William Hooper
--
William Hooper
From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Nov 9 02:00:38 2004
From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:00:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] OT - Re: WhiteBox in the Government
Message-ID: <1207.192.168.0.254.1099965638.squirrel@whooper.org>
Jason Becker said:
> Very interesting, considering that the Votemaster is none other than
> Andrew Tanenbaum:
>
>
> http://www.electoral-vote.com/info/votemaster-faq.html
>
>
> You'd think an organization he's associated with would be running an OS
> with a microkernel. ;-)
And Andrew Tanenbaum is not "in the Government". Or in the US for that
matter.
--
William Hooper
--
William Hooper
From nozy@mozysswamp.org Tue Nov 9 06:09:10 2004
From: nozy@mozysswamp.org (Michael Falzon)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:09:10 +1100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Update Kernal on WB
In-Reply-To: <4185EBF0.6000807@uni-konstanz.de>
References: <1098939920.6220.35.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
<1042.192.168.0.3.1098951719.squirrel@192.168.0.3>
<1098972571.3817.29.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
<4181F35B.5090502@uni-konstanz.de>
<1099275197.3936.131.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
<4185EBF0.6000807@uni-konstanz.de>
Message-ID: <1099980549.5126.0.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
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Hi Kay
Just put in 2.4.27 and she works will thanks ......
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 18:55, Kay Diederichs wrote:
> Michael Falzon wrote:
> > FAQ of WB ? can see it ?
> >
>
> someone should write it!
>
> But your particular problem is a RHEL one, and not specific for WBEL.
>
> Kay
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
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Hi Kay
Just put in 2.4.27 and she works will thanks ......
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 18:55, Kay Diederichs wrote:
Michael Falzon wrote:
> FAQ of WB ? can see it ?
>
someone should write it!
But your particular problem is a RHEL one, and not specific for WBEL.
Kay
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
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From jean.lee@free.fr Tue Nov 9 08:48:24 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:48:24 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
Message-ID: <41908458.2020606@free.fr>
Hello all,
I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how to
do it.
My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot which
is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with added
chroot functionnality).
Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
rpm -e openssh
and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
openssh...
I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall openssh-server
and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package which
has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there another way
which ensure that nothing will be broken?
Thanks for any help,
Jean
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Tue Nov 9 10:04:18 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:04:18 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <41908458.2020606@free.fr>
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No nothing wrong. You can't uninstall openssh as the packages it
mentions depends on it. So you either force uninstall or remove the
dependant packages as well at the same time. I suspect you want the
first. Use --nodeps.
Try reading 'man rpm' on the section on ERASEING packages. This may give
you more insight.
Hope this helps
Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how to
> do it.
>
> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot which
> is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with added
> chroot functionnality).
>
> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
> rpm -e openssh
> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
> openssh...
>
> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall openssh-server
> and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>
> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package which
> has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there another way
> which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Jean
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From jean.lee@free.fr Tue Nov 9 10:17:20 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:17:20 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <41909622.7030200@wsieurope.com>
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And using nodeps won't create any problem with netdump after
reinstalling Openssh (or do I have to be careful with some shared
libraries)?
Thank you
Graham Purcocks wrote:
> No nothing wrong. You can't uninstall openssh as the packages it
> mentions depends on it. So you either force uninstall or remove the
> dependant packages as well at the same time. I suspect you want the
> first. Use --nodeps.
>
> Try reading 'man rpm' on the section on ERASEING packages. This may
> give you more insight.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Jean Lee wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how
>> to do it.
>>
>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>> added chroot functionnality).
>>
>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>> rpm -e openssh
>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
>> openssh...
>>
>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
>> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
>> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
>> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>>
>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
>> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>>
>> Jean
>> _______________________________________________
>> Whitebox-users mailing list
>> Whitebox-users@beau.org
>> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Tue Nov 9 10:58:18 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:58:18 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <41909930.6080008@free.fr>
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Using --nodeps mearly allows you to remove the package you wish. After
that you are on your own because you are ignoring the fact that other
packages depend on it. I cannot guarantee that reinstalling the new
package will still work.
Didn't I read something similar to this over the weekend. Check the
archives. It was about Redhat back porting important changes, so are you
sure that you really need to upgrade?
Bottom line is, if you move from the standard installation you are on
your own unless someone else on the list has done the same thing.
Not much help, I'm afraid.
Jean Lee wrote:
> And using nodeps won't create any problem with netdump after
> reinstalling Openssh (or do I have to be careful with some shared
> libraries)?
>
> Thank you
>
> Graham Purcocks wrote:
>
>> No nothing wrong. You can't uninstall openssh as the packages it
>> mentions depends on it. So you either force uninstall or remove the
>> dependant packages as well at the same time. I suspect you want the
>> first. Use --nodeps.
>>
>> Try reading 'man rpm' on the section on ERASEING packages. This may
>> give you more insight.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how
>>> to do it.
>>>
>>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>>> added chroot functionnality).
>>>
>>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>>> rpm -e openssh
>>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
>>> openssh...
>>>
>>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
>>> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
>>> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
>>> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>>>
>>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
>>> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>
>>> Jean
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Whitebox-users mailing list
>>> Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>>
>>
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From fernandodiaz@titsa.com Tue Nov 9 11:02:24 2004
From: fernandodiaz@titsa.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_J._D=EDaz_Vilela?=)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:02:24 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] mount: error 6 mounting ext3
In-Reply-To: <1203.192.168.0.254.1099965624.squirrel@whooper.org>
Message-ID: <000b01c4c64b$97d1ea60$0a02a8c0@FJDVPC>
Yes, I did it at *4.- time (make clean, bzImage ...) it was created
automatically, I could look it with ls -l.
Fernando J. Dķaz Vilela
Técnico de Sistemas
Dirección de Informįtica
Transportes Interurbanos de Tenerife S.A.U.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] En
nombre de William Hooper
Enviado el: martes, 09 de noviembre de 2004 2:00
Para: whitebox-users@beau.org
Asunto: Re: [WBEL-users] mount: error 6 mounting ext3
Fernando J. Dķaz Vilela said:
> Hello All penguins:
[snip]
> *4.- I launch make clean ; make bzImage ; make modules ; make
> modules_install ; make install
>
> *5.- I edit lilo like:
[snip]
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1.27Oct2004
> label=linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.8.1.27Oct2004.img
> read-only
> append="root=LABEL=/"
> root=/dev/hda2
Did you create the initrd after compiling the kernel?
--
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From jhp@jhprins.org Tue Nov 9 11:04:17 2004
From: jhp@jhprins.org (Jan Hugo Prins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:04:17 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has
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<41909930.6080008@free.fr>
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> And using nodeps won't create any problem with netdump after
> reinstalling Openssh (or do I have to be careful with some shared
> libraries)?
>
> Thank you
>
The best way to go is to make a new RPM package for the newer version of
OpenSSH and upgrade to this new version. This way you probebly won't have
any conflicts with dependancies and you keep your RPM database consistent.
Jan Hugo Prins
From Jim Wildman Tue Nov 9 11:28:12 2004
From: Jim Wildman (Jim Wildman)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 06:28:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
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<41909930.6080008@free.fr>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Jean Lee wrote:
> And using nodeps won't create any problem with netdump after
> reinstalling Openssh (or do I have to be careful with some shared
> libraries)?
>
On the contrary, it could cause lots of very difficult to diagnose
problems. Either
1) Compile the newer ssh into an rpm and install it
2) Compile the newer ssh using the correct flags to drop everything into
/usr/local and run it from there.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE jim@rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best
state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
Thomas Paine
From matt@xrefer.com Tue Nov 9 11:28:54 2004
From: matt@xrefer.com (Matt Dainty)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:28:54 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has
dependencies?
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References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <41909622.7030200@wsieurope.com>
<41909930.6080008@free.fr> <4190A2CA.50907@wsieurope.com>
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On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 10:58, Graham Purcocks wrote:
>
> Didn't I read something similar to this over the weekend. Check the
> archives. It was about Redhat back porting important changes, so are you
> sure that you really need to upgrade?
Yup, number one popular misconception I'd say. Get the bugfixes without
being sprung with new functionality unexpectedly.
Matt
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Tue Nov 9 11:56:42 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 03:56:42 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <41909622.7030200@wsieurope.com>
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How easily you toss about --nodeps! Oh, the abuse to the RPMdb! That's
the absolute best way to cause yourself all manner of grief. The
number-two way, of course, is to install software by tarball: the RPMdb
'knows' that openssh is version 3.6.1p2, but the software is really
3.9p1. It causes HUGE problems when you're actually building new
software on such a broken system, but even under normal use it causes
the second-most number of calls into the call centre.
Luckily I don't work that call centre; I'd instruct people to
immediately rpm-e their rpm installation, for it's more useless with
each new hand-hacked package some cowboy puts on after that.
(what, you think you'd escape a rant?)
Jean, try using 'yum remove openssh'. It'll remove openssh and
everything which depends on it. At the least, it will tell you which
RPMs you will affect by removing openssh. In this case, the list is short:
> [root@fishy /]# yum remove openssh
> Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)
> Server: White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 - i386 - Base
> Server: White Box Enterprise Linux 3.0 - i386 - Released Updates
> Finding updated packages
> Downloading needed headers
> xpdf-1-2.02-8.i386.hdr 100% |=========================| 9.6 kB 00:00
> Resolving dependencies
> ...Dependencies resolved
> I will do the following:
> [erase: openssh 3.6.1p2-33.30.1.i386]
> I will erase these to satisfy the dependencies:
> [deps: openssh-server 3.6.1p2-33.30.1.i386]
> [deps: openssh-askpass-gnome 3.6.1p2-33.30.1.i386]
> [deps: openssh-askpass 3.6.1p2-33.30.1.i386]
> [deps: desktop-printing 0.1.10-15.1.i386]
> [deps: netdump 0.6.11-3.i386]
> [deps: kdebase 6:3.1.3-5.4.i386]
> [deps: user-account-cvs 1.2-5.i386]
> [deps: openssh-clients 3.6.1p2-33.30.1.i386]
> Is this ok [y/N]:
You may just want to roll an upgrade RPM for openssh and install that
instead. That way, your upgrade won't cause any complaints.
Well, that's not too hard:
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1.src.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-clients-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-server-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm
Mind you, I haven't examined, compared or tested this RPM, but I did
hand-assess the patches and it did roll something valid. Now all I need
is the chroot patch. Here are the ones I found; which are you using?
- homedir /home/./username patch
> http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/download/osshChroot-3.9p1.diff
- chrootuser config option
> http://majikal.dyn.dhs.org/projekts/openssh_chroot_patch/openssh-3.5p1+chroot.patch
Let me know and I'll have something for you to test soon afterward.
- bish
Graham Purcocks wrote:
> No nothing wrong. You can't uninstall openssh as the packages it
> mentions depends on it. So you either force uninstall or remove the
> dependant packages as well at the same time. I suspect you want the
> first. Use --nodeps.
>
> Try reading 'man rpm' on the section on ERASEING packages. This may give
> you more insight.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Jean Lee wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how to
>> do it.
>>
>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>> added chroot functionnality).
>>
>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>> rpm -e openssh
>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
>> openssh...
>>
>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
>> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
>> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
>> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>>
>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there another
>> way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>>
>> Jean
>> _______________________________________________
>> Whitebox-users mailing list
>> Whitebox-users@beau.org
>> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Tue Nov 9 12:05:22 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 04:05:22 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
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Matt Dainty wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 10:58, Graham Purcocks wrote:
>
>>Didn't I read something similar to this over the weekend. Check the
>>archives. It was about Redhat back porting important changes, so are you
>>sure that you really need to upgrade?
>
> Yup, number one popular misconception I'd say. Get the bugfixes without
> being sprung with new functionality unexpectedly.
I personally fear for the wget/configure/make/makezlilo kernel upgraders
who happen to miss out on about 7Mb of added patches and customization.
Ya know? I blame bugtraq and friends for that one, too: Folks get
reading, and decide that they *need* the new Version XYZ or they *can't*
possibly be safe. Meanwhile, RH/Mdk/CL are testing a backported patch,
and people who really never stressed about it all get an upgrade for
doing Nothing.
Herd membership is nice while the herd's still moving.
And since EVERY distro does the backport dance, you think folks'd've
figured it out by now, eh?
- bish
--
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that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not
only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
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From ecroft@OPENRATINGS.com Tue Nov 9 13:09:14 2004
From: ecroft@OPENRATINGS.com (Edward Croft)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:09:14 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Issue with showing Global Address List
Message-ID: <1100005754.30156.4.camel@aine.hq.openratings.com>
I had the connector working with prior versions of Evolution. When I
wanted to look up a name, I could go to contacts and pull up the global
address list. If I clicked on find without entering a name, it would
give me the entire list. After upgrading to 2.0.2, that does not work. I
have to now enter something into the field before I get anything. This
is tedious when you have to send emails to a number of people from the
list. What happened and is there a fix?
--
Edward M. Croft
Sr. Systems Engineer
Open Ratings, Inc.
200 West Street
Waltham, MA 02451-1121
From bfriedman@tycoint.com Tue Nov 9 14:01:37 2004
From: bfriedman@tycoint.com (Brandon Friedman)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:01:37 +0200
Subject: [WBEL-users] HCL for Whitebox
Message-ID: <20041109140137.E054399C00F@mail-server1.ho.internal.adtza.co.za>
Hi All
Newbie to Whitebox, I have a silly question? Is Whitebox's HCL the same as
RHEL 3.0?
I am trying to install on and HP ML110 Server with a Promise FastTrak S150
SX4/SX4000 SATA controller. Whitebox doesn't detect the controller, however
RHEL supports it:
http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=5713
Any advice?
Regards
Brandon Friedman
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From jlewis@lewis.org Tue Nov 9 14:23:14 2004
From: jlewis@lewis.org (Jon Lewis)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:23:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] HCL for Whitebox
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Message-ID:
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Brandon Friedman wrote:
> Newbie to Whitebox, I have a silly question? Is Whitebox's HCL the same as
> RHEL 3.0?
>
> I am trying to install on and HP ML110 Server with a Promise FastTrak S150
> SX4/SX4000 SATA controller. Whitebox doesn't detect the controller, however
> RHEL supports it:
> http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=5713
The latest kernels do support it. The kernel on the install CD does not.
AFAIK, RHEL 3.0 has the same problem.
Easiest solution at the moment is probably to install on a PATA drive,
upgrade kernel, then move system to SATA.
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From adrians@turnkey.web.za Tue Nov 9 14:25:10 2004
From: adrians@turnkey.web.za (Adrian Snyman)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:25:10 +0200
Subject: [WBEL-users] HCL for Whitebox
In-Reply-To: <20041109140137.E054399C00F@mail-server1.ho.internal.adtza.co.za>
References: <20041109140137.E054399C00F@mail-server1.ho.internal.adtza.co.za>
Message-ID: <200411091625.10956.adrians@turnkey.web.za>
On Tuesday 09 November 2004 16:01, Brandon Friedman wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Newbie to Whitebox, I have a silly question? Is Whitebox's HCL the same as
> RHEL 3.0?
>
> I am trying to install on and HP ML110 Server with a Promise FastTrak S150
> SX4/SX4000 SATA controller. Whitebox doesn't detect the controller, however
> RHEL supports it:
> http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=5713
>
Page also says:
NOTE: Requires Update 3.
There is still another respin in the works ...
--
Regards,
Adrian Snyman
Tel: (083)647-5299
/* Beat Me, Whip Me, Make me use Windows !! */
From randykel@swbell.net Tue Nov 9 14:36:50 2004
From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:36:50 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <41908458.2020606@free.fr>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4190D602.90708@swbell.net>
Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how to
> do it.
>
> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
> added chroot functionnality).
As I suggested in a previous thread of yours, get the checkinstall
package and install it. Then you can untar the openssh-3.9p1-chroot
package, do your './configure', then 'make' and then instead of doing
your normal 'make install', run 'checkinstall' which will create and
install an RPM package for you. That way, if you have problems with the
new package, you can remove it with the 'rpm -e' command. When you need
to upgrade the package, it will be a lot easier to let rpm do the
upgrade and keep track of the files.
>
> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
> rpm -e openssh
> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
> openssh...
>
> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>
> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there another
> way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
In your case, I would recommend trying the checkinstall method above
first. If you really want to get rid of the dependencies, you can rpm -e
more than one package at a time:
rpm -e openssh openssh-server openssh-client netdump
yum is also handy for this:
yum remove packagename
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Jean
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
From pete@physchem.ox.ac.uk Tue Nov 9 14:35:54 2004
From: pete@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Pete Biggs)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:35:54 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Issue with showing Global Address List
In-Reply-To: <1100005754.30156.4.camel@aine.hq.openratings.com>
References: <1100005754.30156.4.camel@aine.hq.openratings.com>
Message-ID: <1100010954.1302.39.camel@snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk>
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 08:09 -0500, Edward Croft wrote:
> I had the connector working with prior versions of Evolution. When I
> wanted to look up a name, I could go to contacts and pull up the global
> address list. If I clicked on find without entering a name, it would
> give me the entire list. After upgrading to 2.0.2, that does not work. I
> have to now enter something into the field before I get anything. This
> is tedious when you have to send emails to a number of people from the
> list. What happened and is there a fix?
As Evo2 isn't part of WBEL I doubt there will be many people with the
in-depth knowledge of Evo & Connector you need. I suggest you go over
to the Evo lists and ask there:
http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
You can search the lists through google I think, but I don't think I've
seen this particular issue come up.
P.
--
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01865 275490 (Work) pete1biggs @ gmail.com pete @ biggs.org.uk
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Tue Nov 9 14:50:39 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:50:39 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] HCL for Whitebox
In-Reply-To:
References: <20041109140137.E054399C00F@mail-server1.ho.internal.adtza.co.za>
Message-ID: <4190D93F.5000703@wsieurope.com>
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Has there been any indication of when/if there is going to be a Respin
2. These issues seem to be proliferating weekly as more and more SATA
machines become available.
Jon Lewis wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Brandon Friedman wrote:
>
>
>>Newbie to Whitebox, I have a silly question? Is Whitebox's HCL the same as
>>RHEL 3.0?
>>
>>I am trying to install on and HP ML110 Server with a Promise FastTrak S150
>>SX4/SX4000 SATA controller. Whitebox doesn't detect the controller, however
>>RHEL supports it:
>>http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=5713
>
>
> The latest kernels do support it. The kernel on the install CD does not.
> AFAIK, RHEL 3.0 has the same problem.
>
> Easiest solution at the moment is probably to install on a PATA drive,
> upgrade kernel, then move system to SATA.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From Andy Masiar Tue Nov 9 15:08:23 2004
From: Andy Masiar (Andy Masiar)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:08:23 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Google Alert - "beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users"
In-Reply-To:
References:
<009101c4be7b$6ebc3720$6600a8c0@thomask>
<418563B1.6050804@knology.net> <41866E5F.701@TheMoreIKnow.info>
<4186C400.2040101@thefort.org>
<1099351463.24111.187.camel@dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
<41871235.3060507@TheMoreIKnow.info>
Message-ID:
by the way, I have two invites left if anyone is interested :-)
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:06:04 +0200, Maartin Barac
wrote:
> gmail rocks man this conversation feature is just so cool I love it.
>
> I have been a user now only for 23 months not a single spam message as
> yet not via a list or directly.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 01:09:59 -0600, psychoelmo wrote:
> > with the giga-wars in the free email business, i'd suggest picking up
> > a gmail account for mailing lists, and only them (there's plenty of
> > sites offering invites w/o a catch). a gig of storage, message
> > threading, and easy searches, can't really beat it for list mail. the
> > ads? hardly notice them. most threads are longer than the first
> > screen, and the ads (text only) are only "above the fold".
> >
> > i find it a great place to stash high-volume lists like debian's.
> > their spam filters aren't bad, they miss some though. they'll improve
> > over time, i suppose. most of the spam is actually sent to a list, not
> > to my address itself. i also like that i can look and google through
> > old list mails at home or at work. a heck of a lot easier than digging
> > through the actual list archive itself, especially if you're looking
> > for something but dont remember exactly which list it was in. but i
> > dread the time i have to go back and clean out old mail to make room
> > for more. they haven't implemented an easy way to delete quantities of
> > mail yet. (got a few months to go before i run out of space though :)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From jaldeguer@safnow.net Tue Nov 9 15:30:18 2004
From: jaldeguer@safnow.net (Joe Aldeguer)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:30:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Roaming profiles
Message-ID: <33609.66.105.133.51.1100014218.squirrel@66.105.133.51>
I'm mulling over the idea of replacing my Microsoft Windows
2000 server Active Directory with Samba. I'm tired of dealing
with expensive server, client licenses. I am already using White
Box 3.0 ES for our internal website, proxy server, SMTP, Webmail.
The ease of using roaming profile using MS AD is the only thing
holding me back.
Have you been successful implemeting roaming profiles using Samba
and what are the pit falls? Most of my users use Win2k Pro and XP.
Any thoughts suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!
Regards,
Joe
From whooperhsd2@earthlink.net Tue Nov 9 15:31:16 2004
From: whooperhsd2@earthlink.net (William Hooper)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:31:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] HCL for Whitebox
In-Reply-To: <20041109140137.E054399C00F@mail-server1.ho.internal.adtza.co.za>
References: <20041109140137.E054399C00F@mail-server1.ho.internal.adtza.co.za>
Message-ID: <3050.12.29.16.103.1100014276.squirrel@whooper.org>
Brandon Friedman said:
> Hi All
>
>
> Newbie to Whitebox, I have a silly question? Is Whitebox's HCL the same
> as RHEL 3.0?
>
>
> I am trying to install on and HP ML110 Server with a Promise FastTrak
> S150
> SX4/SX4000 SATA controller. Whitebox doesn't detect the controller,
> however RHEL supports it:
> http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=5713
"NOTE: Requires Update 3."
The current "respin 1" CDs of WBEL are the equivalent of RHEL Update 2.
You might be able to install on another controller, update your kernel,
and then move the install to the Promise controller.
--
William Hooper
From Mickael Maddison Tue Nov 9 15:45:36 2004
From: Mickael Maddison (Mickael Maddison)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 07:45:36 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <41908458.2020606@free.fr>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr>
Message-ID: <1636642367.20041109074536@kamloopsbc.com>
Hello Jean,
You can try rpm -e --nodeps packagename
Not sure if your new ssh will break anything by not being there.
--
Best regards,
Mickael
mailto:mike@kamloopsbc.com
Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 12:48:24 AM, you wrote:
JL> Hello all,
JL> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how to
JL> do it.
JL> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
JL> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot which
JL> is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with added
JL> chroot functionnality).
JL> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
JL> rpm -e openssh
JL> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
JL> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
JL> openssh...
JL> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
JL> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
JL> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall openssh-server
JL> and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
JL> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package which
JL> has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there another way
JL> which ensure that nothing will be broken?
JL> Thanks for any help,
JL> Jean
JL> _______________________________________________
JL> Whitebox-users mailing list
JL> Whitebox-users@beau.org
JL> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From ronaldawebster@yahoo.com Tue Nov 9 16:30:42 2004
From: ronaldawebster@yahoo.com (Ronald Webster)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:30:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] dpt pm3224w scsi controller drivers
Message-ID: <20041109163043.77374.qmail@web60205.mail.yahoo.com>
I am looking for LINUX drivers for a DPT PM3224W SCSI
controller. I have searched the Red Hat site as well
as other LINUX websites for information and have only
found out that DPT was bought out and that the new
owners have ZERO desire to support this controller.
Any advice?
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From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Tue Nov 9 16:40:08 2004
From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:40:08 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <41909930.6080008@free.fr>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <41909622.7030200@wsieurope.com> <41909930.6080008@free.fr>
Message-ID: <200411091040.08635.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx>
On Tuesday 09 November 2004 04:17, Jean Lee wrote:
> And using nodeps won't create any problem with netdump after
> reinstalling Openssh (or do I have to be careful with some shared
> libraries)?
>
Yes. You might run into trouble depending on where the various files are
installed by the rpm package. You basically have two choices here, build a
new rpm based on the existing openssh rpm or install from tarball. Either way
definitely try this out on a test box and remember to test thoroughly the
packages that are marked as dependant on openssh. Also you may want to reboot
your system to verify that everything is O.K.
The best place to start making your own package or installing from tarball is
probably the spec file in the srpm. This has all the info about how the
package is built and installed. Remember to list all the files in the
original package with rpm -qlp so you know where everything is installed. A
good starting place to get the info you need is http://www.rpm.org
Personally I prefer to use rpm packages whenever I can but I think one should
not be rpm-dependent, i.e. if the package you want is not available as an rpm
or is not packaged with the features you want/need then its time to roll up
your sleeves and do some traditional hacking, or at least some traditional
packaging :-).
Regards.
Rafael.
> Thank you
>
> Graham Purcocks wrote:
> > No nothing wrong. You can't uninstall openssh as the packages it
> > mentions depends on it. So you either force uninstall or remove the
> > dependant packages as well at the same time. I suspect you want the
> > first. Use --nodeps.
> >
> > Try reading 'man rpm' on the section on ERASEING packages. This may
> > give you more insight.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Jean Lee wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how
> >> to do it.
> >>
> >> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
> >> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
> >> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
> >> added chroot functionnality).
> >>
> >> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
> >> rpm -e openssh
> >> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
> >> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
> >> openssh...
> >>
> >> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
> >> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
> >> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
> >> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
> >>
> >> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
> >> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
> >> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help,
> >>
> >> Jean
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Whitebox-users mailing list
> >> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> >> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
From jean.lee@free.fr Tue Nov 9 17:41:32 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:41:32 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <4190D602.90708@swbell.net>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <4190D602.90708@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <4191014C.4080801@free.fr>
Thank to all of you for your great help.
This mail is just to give a back and keep a trace,
I have created an rpm of the patched openssh (openssh-3.9p1-chroot) with
the checkinstall binary. I called it openssh-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm and
checkinstall automatically installed it.
I didn't do a 'yum remove openssh-3.6.1p2' because I didn't want to
brake some dependencies.
When I type 'rpm -q openssh', I have a good return : openssh-3.9p1-1
but if I try to erase it 'rpm -e openssh', I have the following return :
error: Failed dependencies :
openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
openssh-askpass-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
openssh-askpass-gnome-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
openssh-client-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
Another thing : If I type 'whereis sshd', the return is :
/usr/sbin/sshd and /usr/local/sbin/sshd .
It doesn't seem to be very good..
I will try now to upgrade these 4 tools with standard openssh-3.9p1 and
see what will come.....
Jean
Randy Kelsoe wrote:
> Jean Lee wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how
>> to do it.
>>
>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>> added chroot functionnality).
>
>
>
> As I suggested in a previous thread of yours, get the checkinstall
> package and install it. Then you can untar the openssh-3.9p1-chroot
> package, do your './configure', then 'make' and then instead of doing
> your normal 'make install', run 'checkinstall' which will create and
> install an RPM package for you. That way, if you have problems with
> the new package, you can remove it with the 'rpm -e' command. When you
> need to upgrade the package, it will be a lot easier to let rpm do the
> upgrade and keep track of the files.
>
>>
>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>> rpm -e openssh
>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
>> openssh...
>>
>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
>> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump is
>> probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
>> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>>
>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
>> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>
>
>
> In your case, I would recommend trying the checkinstall method above
> first. If you really want to get rid of the dependencies, you can rpm
> -e more than one package at a time:
>
> rpm -e openssh openssh-server openssh-client netdump
>
> yum is also handy for this:
>
> yum remove packagename
>
>
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>>
>> Jean
>> _______________________________________________
>> Whitebox-users mailing list
>> Whitebox-users@beau.org
>> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
>
From jean.lee@free.fr Tue Nov 9 18:17:33 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:17:33 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <4191014C.4080801@free.fr>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <4190D602.90708@swbell.net> <4191014C.4080801@free.fr>
Message-ID: <419109BD.3040806@free.fr>
Well, I really made something wrong.
I was on the openssh website and didn't find the tar.gz files for
openssh-client, openssh-server, openssh-askpass and
openssh-askpass-gnome. :) sorry, I'm a newbie.
Bishop, how did you do to produce these files ? Is it something with
this srpms file?
If the rpm files are produced by the srpms one. How can I apply a patch
to the tar.gz file and then create the srpms file from this patched
tar.gz file and then finally obtain my rpm files?
What do I have installed (Installation explained in my previous mail)?
Thank you for your answers because I think that I'm a bit lost.
Jean
Jean Lee wrote:
> Thank to all of you for your great help.
> This mail is just to give a back and keep a trace,
>
> I have created an rpm of the patched openssh
> (openssh-3.9p1-chroot.tar.gz) with the checkinstall binary. I called
> it openssh-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm and checkinstall automatically installed it.
> I didn't do a 'yum remove openssh-3.6.1p2' because I didn't want to
> brake some dependencies.
>
> When I type 'rpm -q openssh', I have a good return : openssh-3.9p1-1
> but if I try to erase it 'rpm -e openssh', I have the following return :
>
> error: Failed dependencies :
> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
> openssh-askpass-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
> openssh-client-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
> openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>
> Another thing : If I type 'whereis sshd', the return is :
> /usr/sbin/sshd and /usr/local/sbin/sshd .
> It doesn't seem to be very good..
>
> I will try now to upgrade these 4 tools with standard openssh-3.9p1
> and see what will come.....
>
> Jean
>
> Randy Kelsoe wrote:
>
>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how
>>> to do it.
>>>
>>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>>> added chroot functionnality).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As I suggested in a previous thread of yours, get the checkinstall
>> package and install it. Then you can untar the openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>> package, do your './configure', then 'make' and then instead of doing
>> your normal 'make install', run 'checkinstall' which will create and
>> install an RPM package for you. That way, if you have problems with
>> the new package, you can remove it with the 'rpm -e' command. When
>> you need to upgrade the package, it will be a lot easier to let rpm
>> do the upgrade and keep track of the files.
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>>> rpm -e openssh
>>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
>>> openssh...
>>>
>>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
>>> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump
>>> is probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
>>> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>>>
>>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
>>> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In your case, I would recommend trying the checkinstall method above
>> first. If you really want to get rid of the dependencies, you can rpm
>> -e more than one package at a time:
>>
>> rpm -e openssh openssh-server openssh-client netdump
>>
>> yum is also handy for this:
>>
>> yum remove packagename
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>
>>> Jean
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>>
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From kovalcik@orion-design.com Tue Nov 9 18:25:39 2004
From: kovalcik@orion-design.com (Tom Kovalcik)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:25:39 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Roaming profiles
In-Reply-To: <20041109174201.32109.48320.Mailman@library.beau.org>
References: <20041109174201.32109.48320.Mailman@library.beau.org>
Message-ID: <41910BA3.3080707@orion-design.com>
>Have you been successful implementing roaming profiles using Samba
>and what are the pit falls? Most of my users use Win2k Pro and XP.
I am using roaming profiles with Win2K machines, Redhat 9 Samba 2.2.7. I am holding off updating to WB and Samba 3 and LDAP until next summer. I found two problems. First, large home directories take a long time to load. The temporary internet files seem to be the biggest culprit. I do not have a good fix for this one. Second, by default Win2K keeps a copy of the profile on the local computer. This is good if the user uses that computer almost exclusively, as the data is available even if the domain server is down or unreachable. In the computer lab however where many different people log into the computers and students are using several different computers, the disks start to fill up with these copied profiles. I found a registry setting that deletes the stored profile on the local computer and that has been working well. I can send it along if you want.
Other problems that I am dealing with include permission issues on some
programs and users knowing the difference between saving files on the
local drive as opposed to the domain server. I am hoping Samba 3 will
help with the permission problems.
I would also recommend a 1GB card for the domain server.
Otherwise, the roaming profiles are working well. I am able to provide
nightly backup since only the server needs to be backed up, and students
can use almost any computer in the building.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions (or solutions).
--
Thomas Kovalcik
Orion Design Technologies
122 Mast Road
Lee, NH 03824
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Tue Nov 9 18:51:31 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:51:31 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <419109BD.3040806@free.fr>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <4190D602.90708@swbell.net> <4191014C.4080801@free.fr> <419109BD.3040806@free.fr>
Message-ID: <419111B3.3000909@platypus.bc.ca>
Hey Jean,
The SRPM (Source RPM) contains the necessary code to build RPMs. It's
really just a cpio of the tar.gz, some diffs and a build script (.spec).
Building the RPMs is done with
rpm -i openssh.src.rpm
rpmbuild -ba openssh.spec
Here's the current patch for the spec file to integrate the chroot diff:
> --- /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec~ 2004-11-09 03:35:49.000000000 -0800
> +++ /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec 2004-11-09 10:15:59.000000000 -0800
> @@ -86,7 +86,7 @@
> %if %{rescue}
> Release: %{rel}rescue
> %else
> -Release: %{rel}
> +Release: %{rel}%{?_with_chroot:chroot}
> %endif
> URL: http://www.openssh.com/portable.html
> Source0: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-%{version}.tar.gz
> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
> Patch4: openssh-3.9p1-skip-initial.patch
> Patch11: http://www.sxw.org.uk/computing/patches/openssh-3.6.1p2-gssapi-20030430.diff
> Patch12: openssh-selinux.patch
> +Patch15: http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/download/osshChroot-3.6.1.diff
> License: BSD
> Group: Applications/Internet
> BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-buildroot
> @@ -150,6 +150,7 @@
> %if ! %{build6x}
> Requires: /etc/pam.d/system-auth
> %endif
> +%{?_with_chroot:Provides: ssh-server-chroot}
>
> %package askpass
> Summary: A passphrase dialog for OpenSSH and X.
> @@ -226,6 +227,10 @@
> %patch12 -p1 -b .selinux
> %endif
>
> +%if %{?_with_chroot:1}%{?!_with_chroot:0}%{?commentish:These constructs suck}
> +%patch15 -p1 -b .chroot
> +%endif
> +
> %build
> CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS"; export CFLAGS
> %if %{rescue}
(yes, I hate line 89 too)
Okay, I'm in my meeting now, so I can't test/examine the RPMs at all,
but if you want to test something, grab these:
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.src.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-clients-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-server-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
> Wrote: /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
They may work. I have them here (but get the right ones!) :
http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/
http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/
I'll examine the RPM later today, as I mentioned.
To examine all the changes I've made to the SRPMS:
install one SRPM
move the dirname away (`mv RPM{,1}`)
install the other SRPM
compare them:
diff -uNr --exclude-from=openssh3.*gz RPM{1,}
I can send these diffs to you if you are interested.
- bish
Jean Lee wrote:
> Well, I really made something wrong.
>
> I was on the openssh website and didn't find the tar.gz files for
> openssh-client, openssh-server, openssh-askpass and
> openssh-askpass-gnome. :) sorry, I'm a newbie.
> Bishop, how did you do to produce these files ? Is it something with
> this srpms file?
> If the rpm files are produced by the srpms one. How can I apply a patch
> to the tar.gz file and then create the srpms file from this patched
> tar.gz file and then finally obtain my rpm files?
>
> What do I have installed (Installation explained in my previous mail)?
>
> Thank you for your answers because I think that I'm a bit lost.
>
> Jean
>
> Jean Lee wrote:
>
>> Thank to all of you for your great help.
>> This mail is just to give a back and keep a trace,
>>
>> I have created an rpm of the patched openssh
>> (openssh-3.9p1-chroot.tar.gz) with the checkinstall binary. I called
>> it openssh-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm and checkinstall automatically installed it.
>> I didn't do a 'yum remove openssh-3.6.1p2' because I didn't want to
>> brake some dependencies.
>>
>> When I type 'rpm -q openssh', I have a good return : openssh-3.9p1-1
>> but if I try to erase it 'rpm -e openssh', I have the following return :
>>
>> error: Failed dependencies :
>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>> openssh-askpass-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>> openssh-client-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>> openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>
>> Another thing : If I type 'whereis sshd', the return is :
>> /usr/sbin/sshd and /usr/local/sbin/sshd .
>> It doesn't seem to be very good..
>>
>> I will try now to upgrade these 4 tools with standard openssh-3.9p1
>> and see what will come.....
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> Randy Kelsoe wrote:
>>
>>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know how
>>>> to do it.
>>>>
>>>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>>>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>>>> added chroot functionnality).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I suggested in a previous thread of yours, get the checkinstall
>>> package and install it. Then you can untar the openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>> package, do your './configure', then 'make' and then instead of doing
>>> your normal 'make install', run 'checkinstall' which will create and
>>> install an RPM package for you. That way, if you have problems with
>>> the new package, you can remove it with the 'rpm -e' command. When
>>> you need to upgrade the package, it will be a lot easier to let rpm
>>> do the upgrade and keep track of the files.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>>>> rpm -e openssh
>>>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>>>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related to
>>>> openssh...
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can firstly
>>>> uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with netdump
>>>> is probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to uninstall
>>>> openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to netdump-server.
>>>>
>>>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>>>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
>>>> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In your case, I would recommend trying the checkinstall method above
>>> first. If you really want to get rid of the dependencies, you can rpm
>>> -e more than one package at a time:
>>>
>>> rpm -e openssh openssh-server openssh-client netdump
>>>
>>> yum is also handy for this:
>>>
>>> yum remove packagename
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>
>>>> Jean
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American public. - Teddy Rooseveldt, 1918
From javanree@vanree.net Tue Nov 9 18:57:57 2004
From: javanree@vanree.net (Jan-Albert van Ree)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:57:57 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Roaming profiles
In-Reply-To: <41910BA3.3080707@orion-design.com>
References: <20041109174201.32109.48320.Mailman@library.beau.org> <41910BA3.3080707@orion-design.com>
Message-ID: <200411091957.57384.javanree@vanree.net>
On Tuesday 09 November 2004 19:25, Tom Kovalcik wrote:
> I am using roaming profiles with Win2K machines, Redhat 9 Samba 2.2.7. I
> am holding off updating to WB and Samba 3 and LDAP until next summer. I
> found two problems. First, large home directories take a long time to
> load. The temporary internet files seem to be the biggest culprit. I do
> not have a good fix for this one. Second, by default Win2K keeps a copy
> of the profile on the local computer. This is good if the user uses that
> computer almost exclusively, as the data is available even if the domain
> server is down or unreachable. In the computer lab however where many
> different people log into the computers and students are using several
> different computers, the disks start to fill up with these copied
> profiles. I found a registry setting that deletes the stored profile on
> the local computer and that has been working well. I can send it along if
> you want.
Could you please post the key here? I would love to know how you solved
this, and I'm sure it would benefit others too (the list is keyword
searcheable ;) )
> Other problems that I am dealing with include permission issues on some
> programs and users knowing the difference between saving files on the
> local drive as opposed to the domain server. I am hoping Samba 3 will
> help with the permission problems.
What sort of permission problems?
--
Jan-Albert van Ree | http://www.vanree.net/brickpiles/
VanRee IT Solutions | http://www.vanree.net
From doug@simflex.com Wed Nov 10 00:05:04 2004
From: doug@simflex.com (Doug Eubanks)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:05:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Install on AMD64, no network connectivity
Message-ID: <49970.198.67.41.149.1100045104.squirrel@198.67.41.149>
I have just installed WHEL3 on an AMD64 3400+, and I am having a dickens of a problem getting the network up and going...
I have tried the built in Realtek 8169, a Realtek 8139 and two 3Com cards....
I can't get the built in NIC to detect, no biggie....all of the PCI network cards I tried have the same effect....the card is dectected without errors, the link light comes on....but I can't ping anything except the local IP of the NIC. I have tried different cables and two different ports on the switch. I am a Network Engineer so I have tried all of the basic troubleshooting. Can someone point me in the right direction, I can't help but feel it has something to do with either the WBEL3 AMD64 build or a related caveat...
Thanks,
Doug Eubanks
admin@dougware.net
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From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Wed Nov 10 00:52:23 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:52:23 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] OpenSSH 3.9p1-1chroot RPM - Ready for Testing - was Re: How to uninstall
an rpm package which has dependencies?
Message-ID: <41916647.5000001@platypus.bc.ca>
Jean,
I think the RPMs I built may work for you. They looked good during a
light assessment, and install without any problems.
Why don't you pick them up and see if they work for you? If you want to
rebuild them yourself, you're welcome to do so:
rpmbuild --rebuild --with chroot \
http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bishop/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras\
/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.src.rpm
Otherwise, grab the binaries if you want:
wget --dir /tmp \
http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bishop/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh\
{,-{askpass{,-gnome},clients,server}}-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
rpm -Fvh /tmp/openssh*3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
Please keep a copy of the SRPM for study and/or further work. Note
that, if one doesn't say '--with chroot' on the command line, the SRPM
will build into standard, openssh RPMs without the chroot code.
- bish
--
From seth@integratedsolutions.org Wed Nov 10 01:03:59 2004
From: seth@integratedsolutions.org (Seth Bardash)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 18:03:59 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Install on AMD64, no network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <49970.198.67.41.149.1100045104.squirrel@198.67.41.149>
Message-ID: <200411100104.iAA144M31225@integratedsolutions.org>
-----Original Message-----
From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
[mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Doug Eubanks
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:05 PM
To: whitebox-users@beau.org
Subject: [WBEL-users] Install on AMD64, no network connectivity
I have just installed WHEL3 on an AMD64 3400+, and I am having a
dickens of a problem getting the network up and going...
I have tried the built in Realtek 8169, a Realtek 8139 and two
3Com cards....
I can't get the built in NIC to detect, no biggie....all of the
PCI network cards I tried have the same effect....the card is
dectected without errors, the link light comes on....but I can't
ping anything except the local IP of the NIC. I have tried
different cables and two different ports on the switch. I am a
Network Engineer so I have tried all of the basic troubleshooting.
Can someone point me in the right direction, I can't help but feel
it has something to do with either the WBEL3 AMD64 build or a
related caveat...
Thanks,
Doug Eubanks
admin@dougware.net
What Motherboard are you using and what is the chipset listed in
its manual?
Seth Bardash
Integrated Solutions and Systems
http://www.integratedsolutions.org
Supplier of AMD, Intel and SPARC Servers and Systems running
Windows, Linux, Solaris and VxWorks.
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From hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com Wed Nov 10 01:23:16 2004
From: hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:23:16 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Business woftware for Linux
Message-ID: <41916D84.2000504@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
I am hoping to find a inventory management program suitable for
something like a bookstore or other 1-5 person smb. The software
would need to be able to accept inputs from wireless handheld
scanning devices for entry into the system. It must also work
with their windows based PoS computer. Any suggestions would be
highly appreciated.
William
--
My "Foundation" verse:
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper;
and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou
shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
-- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape"
From tanel@kivilinn.tartu.ee Wed Nov 10 07:43:08 2004
From: tanel@kivilinn.tartu.ee (Tanel Kindsigo)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:43:08 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Roaming profiles
In-Reply-To: <200411091957.57384.javanree@vanree.net>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 November 2004 19:25, Tom Kovalcik wrote:
>
> > found two problems. First, large home directories take a long time to
> > load. The temporary internet files seem to be the biggest culprit. I do
Many programs, including IE allow defining temporary cache folder. by
default, it's inside profile indeed, but you can set it to c:\temp\
I suggest to find policy editor and policy templates from internet and use
the power of that tool. you can define whole registry for every PC in
your network by that way, including deleting of locally stored profiles
after logout, mounting
server disk shares, restricting several options in windows to prevent
users' damage or evil customizing windows. of cource, you have to learn
from manuals, what is system policy editing and how it works.
samba.org provides quite a good tutorials for that.
roaming profiles work with both Redhat and Whitebox just as good as with
M$ servers.
From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Wed Nov 10 10:46:41 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:46:41 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Roaming profiles
In-Reply-To: <33609.66.105.133.51.1100014218.squirrel@66.105.133.51>
References: <33609.66.105.133.51.1100014218.squirrel@66.105.133.51>
Message-ID: <1100083601.11954.9.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 10:30 -0500, Joe Aldeguer wrote:
> I'm mulling over the idea of replacing my Microsoft Windows
> 2000 server Active Directory with Samba. I'm tired of dealing
> with expensive server, client licenses. I am already using White
> Box 3.0 ES for our internal website, proxy server, SMTP, Webmail.
> The ease of using roaming profile using MS AD is the only thing
> holding me back.
>
> Have you been successful implemeting roaming profiles using Samba
> and what are the pit falls? Most of my users use Win2k Pro and XP.
>
> Any thoughts suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe
My understanding with the current version of samba is that it can not be
a Windows 2000 ADS domain controller ... only as an NT 4 type PDC / BDC.
Anyone know of a way to make a samba machine be a Windows 2000 ADS
domain controller?
Using NT4 roaming profiles is not hard ... and my WhiteBox samba PDC
guide does do it:
http://www.hughesjr.com/content/view/24/2/Site_News
So if a NT4 type domain is OK, then using samba will work.
If someone knows how to use samba as a Win2000 ADS domain controller,
please post links :)
--
Johnny Hughes
From andrewvong@finpress.com Wed Nov 10 11:50:58 2004
From: andrewvong@finpress.com (Andrew Vong)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:50:58 +0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Roaming profiles
In-Reply-To: <1100083601.11954.9.camel@Myth.home.local>
References: <33609.66.105.133.51.1100014218.squirrel@66.105.133.51>
<33609.66.105.133.51.1100014218.squirrel@66.105.133.51>
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Johnny,
Thanks for the link. It's very useful and comprehensive. I'm sure it'll
help a lot of newbies like myself with to get started with it.
Regarding your question on how to use Samba 3 as a Win2000 ADS domain
controller, I'm afraid it's not yet possible. I've bought a number of books
on Samba and here's a quote from one of them.
"Samba's support for more recent domain-like tools, such as Active
Directory (AD), is quite limited. Samba can be a member of an AD domain,
but it can't function as an AD domain controller. Samba's tools for
handling the older NT-style domains are much more complete."
Got it on pg. 261 of "The Definitive Guide to Samba 3" by Roderick W. Smith
Here's the link -->
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590592778/qid=1100087044/sr=8
-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-6458473-5570316?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Another quote from pg. 49 of "The Official Samba-3 HowTo and Reference
Guide" by John H. Terpstra and Jelmer R. Vernooij.
Amazon Link -->
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131453556/ref=pd_sim_b_2/104-
6458473-5570316?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
"Samba-3 is not, and cannot act as, an Active Directory Server. It cannot
truly function as an Active Directory Primary Domain Controller. The
protocols for some of the functionality of Active Directory Domain
Controllers has been partially implemented on an experimental only basis.
Please do not expect Samba-3 to support these protocols. Do not depend on
any such functionality either now or in the future. The Samba Team may
remove these experimental features or may change their behavior. This is
mentioned for the benefit of those who have discovered secret capabilities
in Samba-3 and who have asked when this functionality will be completed.
The answer is maybe or maybe never!
To be sure, Samba-3 is designed to provide most of the functionality that
Microsoft Windows NT4-style Domain Controllers have. Samba-3 does not have
all the capabilities of Windows NT4, but it does have a number of features
that Windows NT4 domain controllers do not have. In short, Samba-3 is not
NT4 and it is not Windows Server 200x, it is not an Active Directory
server. We hope this is plain and simple enough for all to understand."
The link to the text above is here -->
http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-pdc.html#id
2518262
Regards,
Andrew
At 04:46 AM 10/11/2004 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 10:30 -0500, Joe Aldeguer wrote:
> > I'm mulling over the idea of replacing my Microsoft Windows
> > 2000 server Active Directory with Samba. I'm tired of dealing
> > with expensive server, client licenses. I am already using White
> > Box 3.0 ES for our internal website, proxy server, SMTP, Webmail.
> > The ease of using roaming profile using MS AD is the only thing
> > holding me back.
> >
> > Have you been successful implemeting roaming profiles using Samba
> > and what are the pit falls? Most of my users use Win2k Pro and XP.
> >
> > Any thoughts suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joe
>
>My understanding with the current version of samba is that it can not be
>a Windows 2000 ADS domain controller ... only as an NT 4 type PDC / BDC.
>Anyone know of a way to make a samba machine be a Windows 2000 ADS
>domain controller?
>
>Using NT4 roaming profiles is not hard ... and my WhiteBox samba PDC
>guide does do it:
>
> http://www.hughesjr.com/content/view/24/2/Site_News
>
>So if a NT4 type domain is OK, then using samba will work.
>
>If someone knows how to use samba as a Win2000 ADS domain controller,
>please post links :)
>
>--
>Johnny Hughes
>
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Johnny,
Thanks for the link. It's very useful and comprehensive. I'm sure it'll
help a lot of newbies like myself with to get started with it.
Regarding your question on how to use Samba 3 as a Win2000 ADS domain
controller, I'm afraid it's not yet possible. I've bought a number of
books on Samba and here's a quote from one of them.
"Samba's support for more recent domain-like tools, such as
Active Directory (AD), is quite limited. Samba can be a member of an AD
domain, but it can't function as an AD domain controller. Samba's tools
for handling the older NT-style domains are much more
complete."
Got it on pg. 261 of "The Definitive Guide to Samba 3" by
Roderick W. Smith
"Samba-3 is not, and cannot act as, an Active Directory Server.
It cannot truly function as an Active Directory Primary Domain
Controller. The protocols for some of the functionality of Active
Directory Domain Controllers has been partially implemented on an
experimental only basis. Please do not expect Samba-3 to support these
protocols. Do not depend on any such functionality either now or in the
future. The Samba Team may remove these experimental features or may
change their behavior. This is mentioned for the benefit of those who
have discovered secret capabilities in Samba-3 and who have asked when
this functionality will be completed. The answer is maybe or maybe
never!
To be sure, Samba-3 is designed to provide most of the functionality
that Microsoft Windows NT4-style Domain Controllers have. Samba-3 does
not have all the capabilities of Windows NT4, but it does have a number
of features that Windows NT4 domain controllers do not have. In short,
Samba-3 is not NT4 and it is not Windows Server 200x, it is not an Active
Directory server. We hope this is plain and simple enough for all to
understand."
At 04:46 AM 10/11/2004 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 10:30 -0500, Joe
Aldeguer wrote:
> I'm mulling over the idea of replacing my Microsoft Windows
> 2000 server Active Directory with Samba. I'm tired of dealing
> with expensive server, client licenses. I am already using
White
> Box 3.0 ES for our internal website, proxy server, SMTP,
Webmail.
> The ease of using roaming profile using MS AD is the only
thing
> holding me back.
>
> Have you been successful implemeting roaming profiles using
Samba
> and what are the pit falls? Most of my users use Win2k Pro and
XP.
>
> Any thoughts suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe
My understanding with the current version of samba is that it can not
be
a Windows 2000 ADS domain controller ... only as an NT 4 type PDC /
BDC.
Anyone know of a way to make a samba machine be a Windows 2000 ADS
domain controller?
Using NT4 roaming profiles is not hard ... and my WhiteBox samba
PDC
guide does do it:
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From reblair@operamail.com Wed Nov 10 12:00:30 2004
From: reblair@operamail.com (Robert E. Blair )
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:00:30 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Install on AMD64, no network connectivity
Message-ID: <20041110120030.B6777398198@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com>
I can speak with authority that a realtek 8169 does work in at least one amd64 system with a 2.6 kernel. I too had problems with the release kernels mainly (I'm speculating) because you need to disable acpi for them to work at all. I might add that the 8169 gets 100Mbps performance unless you use the newer realtek drivers (v2.2) from their website.
seth wrote:
I have just installed WHEL3 on an AMD64 3400+, and I am having a
dickens of a problem getting the network up and going...
I have tried the built in Realtek 8169, a Realtek 8139 and two
3Com cards....
I can't get the built in NIC to detect, no biggie....all of the
PCI network cards I tried have the same effect....the card is
dectected without errors, the link light comes on....but I can't
ping anything except the local IP of the NIC. I have tried
different cables and two different ports on the switch. I am a
Network Engineer so I have tried all of the basic troubleshooting.
Can someone point me in the right direction, I can't help but feel
it has something to do with either the WBEL3 AMD64 build or a
related caveat...
Thanks,
Doug Eubanks
admin@dougware.net
What Motherboard are you using and what is the chipset listed in
its manual?
Seth Bardash
Integrated Solutions and Systems
http://www.integratedsolutions.org
Supplier of AMD, Intel and SPARC Servers and Systems running
Windows, Linux, Solaris and VxWorks.
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From jean.lee@free.fr Wed Nov 10 14:44:44 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:44:44 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <419111B3.3000909@platypus.bc.ca>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <4190D602.90708@swbell.net> <4191014C.4080801@free.fr> <419109BD.3040806@free.fr> <419111B3.3000909@platypus.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <4192295C.7080506@free.fr>
Hi bishop,
OK I tried your rpms. The installation is OK and I succeed to create a
jail which works for ssh.
I follow the manual which is available here :
http://www.netadmintools.com/art294.html
The problem is that it doesn't work with sftp-server.
During the creation of the chroot environnement, I made a copy of
/usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server to
"path-to-chroot"/./usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server
then :
cd "path-to-chroot"/./usr/libexec/openssh/
ldd sftp-server
The output gives some libraries which I copied into the correct folders.
When I tried : sftp jean@ServeurLinux
I am asked for a password and then I have an error saying me that a
library related to kerberos is not found.
I verified and this library is at the place which is telled by ldd (+the
"path-to-chroot")......
It is related to this kerberos library because I tried to supress
libz.so.1 (which is also needed by sftp-server) and the error message
was then that it didn't find libz.so.1. I suppose so than when this
library is well placed, sftp-server can find it.
Do you have any idea why sftp-server doesn't find this kerberos library ?
Thank you for your support.
Jean
bishop wrote:
>
> Hey Jean,
>
> The SRPM (Source RPM) contains the necessary code to build RPMs. It's
> really just a cpio of the tar.gz, some diffs and a build script (.spec).
>
> Building the RPMs is done with
> rpm -i openssh.src.rpm
> rpmbuild -ba openssh.spec
>
> Here's the current patch for the spec file to integrate the chroot diff:
>
>> --- /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec~ 2004-11-09
>> 03:35:49.000000000 -0800
>> +++ /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec 2004-11-09 10:15:59.000000000
>> -0800
>> @@ -86,7 +86,7 @@
>> %if %{rescue}
>> Release: %{rel}rescue
>> %else
>> -Release: %{rel}
>> +Release: %{rel}%{?_with_chroot:chroot}
>> %endif
>> URL: http://www.openssh.com/portable.html
>> Source0:
>> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-%{version}.tar.gz
>>
>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
>> Patch4: openssh-3.9p1-skip-initial.patch
>> Patch11:
>> http://www.sxw.org.uk/computing/patches/openssh-3.6.1p2-gssapi-20030430.diff
>>
>> Patch12: openssh-selinux.patch
>> +Patch15:
>> http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/download/osshChroot-3.6.1.diff
>> License: BSD
>> Group: Applications/Internet
>> BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-buildroot
>> @@ -150,6 +150,7 @@
>> %if ! %{build6x}
>> Requires: /etc/pam.d/system-auth
>> %endif
>> +%{?_with_chroot:Provides: ssh-server-chroot}
>>
>> %package askpass
>> Summary: A passphrase dialog for OpenSSH and X.
>> @@ -226,6 +227,10 @@
>> %patch12 -p1 -b .selinux
>> %endif
>>
>> +%if %{?_with_chroot:1}%{?!_with_chroot:0}%{?commentish:These
>> constructs suck}
>> +%patch15 -p1 -b .chroot
>> +%endif
>> +
>> %build
>> CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS"; export CFLAGS
>> %if %{rescue}
>
>
> (yes, I hate line 89 too)
>
> Okay, I'm in my meeting now, so I can't test/examine the RPMs at all,
> but if you want to test something, grab these:
>
>> Wrote:
>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.src.rpm
>>
>> Wrote:
>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>
>> Wrote:
>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-clients-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>
>> Wrote:
>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-server-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>
>> Wrote:
>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>
>> Wrote:
>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>
>
>
> They may work. I have them here (but get the right ones!) :
>
> http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/
> http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/
>
> I'll examine the RPM later today, as I mentioned.
>
> To examine all the changes I've made to the SRPMS:
> install one SRPM
> move the dirname away (`mv RPM{,1}`)
> install the other SRPM
> compare them:
> diff -uNr --exclude-from=openssh3.*gz RPM{1,}
>
> I can send these diffs to you if you are interested.
>
> - bish
>
> Jean Lee wrote:
>
>> Well, I really made something wrong.
>>
>> I was on the openssh website and didn't find the tar.gz files for
>> openssh-client, openssh-server, openssh-askpass and
>> openssh-askpass-gnome. :) sorry, I'm a newbie.
>> Bishop, how did you do to produce these files ? Is it something with
>> this srpms file?
>> If the rpm files are produced by the srpms one. How can I apply a
>> patch to the tar.gz file and then create the srpms file from this
>> patched tar.gz file and then finally obtain my rpm files?
>>
>> What do I have installed (Installation explained in my previous mail)?
>>
>> Thank you for your answers because I think that I'm a bit lost.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>
>>> Thank to all of you for your great help.
>>> This mail is just to give a back and keep a trace,
>>>
>>> I have created an rpm of the patched openssh
>>> (openssh-3.9p1-chroot.tar.gz) with the checkinstall binary. I called
>>> it openssh-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm and checkinstall automatically installed
>>> it.
>>> I didn't do a 'yum remove openssh-3.6.1p2' because I didn't want to
>>> brake some dependencies.
>>>
>>> When I type 'rpm -q openssh', I have a good return : openssh-3.9p1-1
>>> but if I try to erase it 'rpm -e openssh', I have the following
>>> return :
>>>
>>> error: Failed dependencies :
>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>> openssh-askpass-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>> openssh-client-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>> openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>
>>> Another thing : If I type 'whereis sshd', the return is :
>>> /usr/sbin/sshd and /usr/local/sbin/sshd .
>>> It doesn't seem to be very good..
>>>
>>> I will try now to upgrade these 4 tools with standard openssh-3.9p1
>>> and see what will come.....
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> Randy Kelsoe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know
>>>>> how to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>>>>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>>>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>>>>> added chroot functionnality).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I suggested in a previous thread of yours, get the checkinstall
>>>> package and install it. Then you can untar the openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>>> package, do your './configure', then 'make' and then instead of
>>>> doing your normal 'make install', run 'checkinstall' which will
>>>> create and install an RPM package for you. That way, if you have
>>>> problems with the new package, you can remove it with the 'rpm -e'
>>>> command. When you need to upgrade the package, it will be a lot
>>>> easier to let rpm do the upgrade and keep track of the files.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>>>>> rpm -e openssh
>>>>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>>>>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related
>>>>> to openssh...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can
>>>>> firstly uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with
>>>>> netdump is probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to
>>>>> uninstall openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to
>>>>> netdump-server.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>>>>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
>>>>> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In your case, I would recommend trying the checkinstall method
>>>> above first. If you really want to get rid of the dependencies, you
>>>> can rpm -e more than one package at a time:
>>>>
>>>> rpm -e openssh openssh-server openssh-client netdump
>>>>
>>>> yum is also handy for this:
>>>>
>>>> yum remove packagename
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean
>>>>
>
>
From jim@well.com Wed Nov 10 15:50:25 2004
From: jim@well.com (jim stockford)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:50:25 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] thanks for vsftpd responses
Message-ID: <3D08A6F4-3330-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
Thanks for vsftpd responses: I've discovered
scp, which uses sshd, requires login, but it's
encrypted, not plaintext. As i don't need
anonymous ftp, scp is a suitable alternative
that does the job.
From jim@well.com Wed Nov 10 15:50:59 2004
From: jim@well.com (jim stockford)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:50:59 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] dvd burner drivers
Message-ID: <510929FC-3330-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
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I'm thinking of getting either
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Lite-On SHOW-1633S 16X DVDRW=A0=A01=A0109=A0=A0
NEC 16X DVD+/-RW DUAL LAYER=A0=A01=A0109=A0=A0
but I'm worried that I won't have a driver that
works them.
Anybody know of Linux DVD drivers?
Also, I've got a stand-along LiteOn DVD burner,
anyone know the right driver for that?
The purpose is not videos but data backup.
I'm just looking for a bigger, better CD
jim
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From k.c.quick@open.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 16:00:47 2004
From: k.c.quick@open.ac.uk (kevin quick)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:00:47 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Serial ATA
Message-ID: <200411101600.47470.k.c.quick@open.ac.uk>
Hi all.
I'm new to this list and before I go and reinvent the wheel I thought I'd ask
here first.
I'm installing WB on a couple of P4's with Adaptec 1205 SATA cards.
Problem.
Drive response is very very slow. I'm guessing that has to do with the libata
library thats in the current kernel tree.
Has anybody had the same problem and found a fix for it or am I gonna have to
replace the kernel with a newer one.
Kevin.
From csieh@fnal.gov Wed Nov 10 16:08:24 2004
From: csieh@fnal.gov (Connie Sieh)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:08:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] dvd burner drivers
In-Reply-To: <510929FC-3330-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
Message-ID:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, jim stockford wrote:
>
>
> I'm thinking of getting either
> Sony DW-D18A 8X DVDRW 1 99
This is really a Lite-on in Sony clothing.
> Lite-On SHOW-1633S 16X DVDRW 1 109
> NEC 16X DVD+/-RW DUAL LAYER 1 109
I would suggest the Pioneer 108.
> but I'm worried that I won't have a driver that
> works them.
> Anybody know of Linux DVD drivers?
The lowlevel drivers for all the above drive are the same and included
with Whitebox now.
>
> Also, I've got a stand-along LiteOn DVD burner,
> anyone know the right driver for that?
>
Stand-along , I assume you mean stand-alone. The dvd burner itself should
be no problem. The question here is what connection method you have.
USB2 or firewire or ?
> The purpose is not videos but data backup.
> I'm just looking for a bigger, better CD
>
> jim
>
-Connie Sieh
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
From grahamp@wsieurope.com Wed Nov 10 16:23:52 2004
From: grahamp@wsieurope.com (Graham Purcocks)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:23:52 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] thanks for vsftpd responses
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There is sftp as well just to confuse things.
jim stockford wrote:
>
> Thanks for vsftpd responses: I've discovered
> scp, which uses sshd, requires login, but it's
> encrypted, not plaintext. As i don't need
> anonymous ftp, scp is a suitable alternative
> that does the job.
>
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From jim@well.com Wed Nov 10 16:33:38 2004
From: jim@well.com (jim stockford)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:33:38 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] dvd burner drivers
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <464B48DE-3336-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
terrific answer!
usb connect, got advice?
On Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, at 08:08 US/Pacific, Connie Sieh wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, jim stockford wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking of getting either
>> Sony DW-D18A 8X DVDRW 1 99
>
> This is really a Lite-on in Sony clothing.
>
>> Lite-On SHOW-1633S 16X DVDRW 1 109
>> NEC 16X DVD+/-RW DUAL LAYER 1 109
>
> I would suggest the Pioneer 108.
>
>> but I'm worried that I won't have a driver that
>> works them.
>> Anybody know of Linux DVD drivers?
>
> The lowlevel drivers for all the above drive are the same and included
> with Whitebox now.
>
>>
>> Also, I've got a stand-along LiteOn DVD burner,
>> anyone know the right driver for that?
>>
>
> Stand-along , I assume you mean stand-alone. The dvd burner itself
> should
> be no problem. The question here is what connection method you have.
> USB2 or firewire or ?
>
>> The purpose is not videos but data backup.
>> I'm just looking for a bigger, better CD
>>
>> jim
>>
> -Connie Sieh
> Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
>
>
>
From jon@foneport.com Wed Nov 10 16:33:51 2004
From: jon@foneport.com (Jon Hill)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:33:51 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] yum updates
Message-ID: <200411101633.51895.jon@foneport.com>
Hi All
I am new this list.
I have White Box running on a development server, I like the ideas behind this
distribution and hope to become an active contributor if I can over time.
I had WB running on an oldish machine with a 2Gig hard drive. I didn't have a
great deal of space left I ran out of hard drive space whilst running a yum
update. I know have a damaged installation and don't know how I would go
about trying to recover packages. I can't even run yum anymore because it has
removed itself during the failed update. It was obvioulsy a little silly of
me to run an auto update on a machine like this one, but is this a flaw in
the whole yum concept? I had a similar problem running up2date on a RHE3
server recently. The update process failed and I ended up with RPMs that I
had to reinstall manually and then repair the package database etc.
Jon
From csieh@fnal.gov Wed Nov 10 16:39:49 2004
From: csieh@fnal.gov (Connie Sieh)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:39:49 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] dvd burner drivers
In-Reply-To: <464B48DE-3336-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com>
Message-ID:
Jim,
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, jim stockford wrote:
>
> terrific answer!
> usb connect, got advice?
It should be at least USB2. Some of the USB2 chipsets that are used in
the chasis are better than others. I have had success with the ALi. It
is used in the BYTECC 5.25 inch chasis. I would stay away from the
Prolific chipset.
If you already have this device a
lsusb
will show the chipset.
-Connie Sieh
>
> On Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, at 08:08 US/Pacific, Connie Sieh wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, jim stockford wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm thinking of getting either
> >> Sony DW-D18A 8X DVDRW 1 99
> >
> > This is really a Lite-on in Sony clothing.
> >
> >> Lite-On SHOW-1633S 16X DVDRW 1 109
> >> NEC 16X DVD+/-RW DUAL LAYER 1 109
> >
> > I would suggest the Pioneer 108.
> >
> >> but I'm worried that I won't have a driver that
> >> works them.
> >> Anybody know of Linux DVD drivers?
> >
> > The lowlevel drivers for all the above drive are the same and included
> > with Whitebox now.
> >
> >>
> >> Also, I've got a stand-along LiteOn DVD burner,
> >> anyone know the right driver for that?
> >>
> >
> > Stand-along , I assume you mean stand-alone. The dvd burner itself
> > should
> > be no problem. The question here is what connection method you have.
> > USB2 or firewire or ?
> >
> >> The purpose is not videos but data backup.
> >> I'm just looking for a bigger, better CD
> >>
> >> jim
> >>
> > -Connie Sieh
> > Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
> >
> >
> >
>
>
From textux@bellsouth.net Wed Nov 10 17:42:30 2004
From: textux@bellsouth.net (Bill Whiting)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:42:30 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] dvd burner drivers
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <41925306.2010105@bellsouth.net>
I think this is somewhat off topic, but since we're talking about DVD
burners. I haven't been able to get my DVD burner to create a file
system that I can read on other systems.
I create the image w/ growisofs. I can read the DVD on the system that
created the DVD, but when I try to read it on my laptop with either
WBEL, or the other OS, it's not recognized.
Does anyone know how I can get specifics on the DVD, i.e. I want to
verify that it's an ISO file system.
//Bill
Connie Sieh wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, jim stockford wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I'm thinking of getting either
>>Sony DW-D18A 8X DVDRW 1 99
>
>
> This is really a Lite-on in Sony clothing.
>
>
>>Lite-On SHOW-1633S 16X DVDRW 1 109
>>NEC 16X DVD+/-RW DUAL LAYER 1 109
>
>
> I would suggest the Pioneer 108.
>
>
>>but I'm worried that I won't have a driver that
>>works them.
>>Anybody know of Linux DVD drivers?
>
>
> The lowlevel drivers for all the above drive are the same and included
> with Whitebox now.
>
>
>>Also, I've got a stand-along LiteOn DVD burner,
>>anyone know the right driver for that?
>>
>
>
> Stand-along , I assume you mean stand-alone. The dvd burner itself should
> be no problem. The question here is what connection method you have.
> USB2 or firewire or ?
>
> > The purpose is not videos but data backup.
>
>>I'm just looking for a bigger, better CD
>>
>>jim
>>
>
> -Connie Sieh
> Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Whitebox-users@beau.org
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From mikes@hartwellcorp.com Wed Nov 10 18:20:35 2004
From: mikes@hartwellcorp.com (Michael St. Laurent)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:20:35 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Trouble getting Intel Pro 100M NIC working
Message-ID: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C576EE@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
Hello,
I'm trying to install WBEL 3.0 respin 1 onto a system with a builtin Intel
Pro 100M NIC but the card is being ignored. Is there some way to get this
working?
--
Michael St. Laurent
Hartwell Corporation
From randykel@swbell.net Wed Nov 10 18:47:34 2004
From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:47:34 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Trouble getting Intel Pro 100M NIC working
In-Reply-To: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C576EE@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
References: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C576EE@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
Message-ID: <41926246.4060307@swbell.net>
Michael St. Laurent wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm trying to install WBEL 3.0 respin 1 onto a system with a builtin Intel
>Pro 100M NIC but the card is being ignored. Is there some way to get this
>working?
>
>
>
What do you see if you do a 'lspci |grep -i ether'?
From seth@integratedsolutions.org Wed Nov 10 20:22:40 2004
From: seth@integratedsolutions.org (Seth Bardash)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:22:40 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Install on AMD64, no network connectivity
In-Reply-To: <20041110120030.B6777398198@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <200411102022.iAAKMkb21489@integratedsolutions.org>
-----Original Message-----
From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
[mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Robert E.
Blair
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:01 AM
To: whitebox-users@beau.org
Cc: seth@integratedsolutions.org
Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] Install on AMD64, no network
connectivity
I can speak with authority that a realtek 8169 does work in at
least one amd64 system with a 2.6 kernel. I too had problems with
the release kernels mainly (I'm speculating) because you need to
disable acpi for them to work at all. I might add that the 8169
gets 100Mbps performance unless you use the newer realtek drivers
(v2.2) from their website.
seth wrote:
I have just installed WHEL3 on an AMD64 3400+, and I am having a
dickens of a problem getting the network up and going...
SNIP...
Doug Eubanks
-----Original Message-----
Update: Clarified and SNIP'ed:
Doug Wrote back that the MB was a MSI K8N Neo, nforce3 250Gb.
I responded that he should check www.nvidia.com for the drivers.
He responded: I have built the driver and installed it without a
problem.....but it is still does not work....the interface is up,
but I can't do anything with it except ping it's local address...
It is using IRQ 22 and I have read some other posts that mention
IRQ problems above 22, and to disable the ACPI on the mainboard,
but this BIOS does not have that feature....
Doug
Next suggestions:
Check the hub you are using. The port is going to try to come up
running Gigabit speeds. You may need to play with the options for
the driver. Are you using a GigE hub? Or 100BT ?
To turn off acpi modify the /boot/grub/grub.conf entry for the
kernel and add: acpi=off
What does the boot message say for the LAN ??
Seth
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From lists@benjamindsmith.com Wed Nov 10 21:13:06 2004
From: lists@benjamindsmith.com (Benjamin Smith)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:13:06 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Conclusions for WB Linux
Message-ID: <200411101313.06100.lists@benjamindsmith.com>
I've been researching WB Linux for most of today. I discovered this just
yesterday, and have been searching for an answer to the dillema posed by Red
Hat: A) Pay too much or B) upgrade everything every year
I'm now running WB Linux in a VMWare session, testing it, and reading thru the
mailing list.
Here's what I've concluded, let me know if I'm wrong:
1) This is the answer I've been looking for! It's just like RH 9, only with
security updates! Hoo ya! I love you all! Thank you Beauregard Parish Public
Library!
2) There's a real problem with mirrors being dull reflections. On my first 3
attempts to update with yum on a freshly installed respin1 install, I got
"nothing to do". So, to use this effectively, I'll be doing an rsync of the
central repo and then running my own yum repository for my 15-ish servers.
(They always seem to be somewhat in flux!) Is there a better way to go?
3) There seems to be a fairly active community around WB Linux. I wonder
when/if it actually forks? (a la Mandrake) Will it eventually get folded
back into RedHat like Fedora?
-Ben
--
"I kept looking around for somebody to solve the problem.
Then I realized I am somebody"
-Anonymous
From asparks@quris.com Wed Nov 10 21:40:36 2004
From: asparks@quris.com (Alan Sparks)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:40:36 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Conclusions for WB Linux
In-Reply-To: <200411101313.06100.lists@benjamindsmith.com>
References: <200411101313.06100.lists@benjamindsmith.com>
Message-ID: <1100122835.10361.44.camel@asparks>
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 14:13, Benjamin Smith wrote:
> 1) This is the answer I've been looking for! It's just like RH 9, only with
> security updates! Hoo ya! I love you all! Thank you Beauregard Parish Public
> Library!
Just for the record, RH9 is updated by the Fedora Legacy project
(http://www.fedoralegacy.org/).
> 2) There's a real problem with mirrors being dull reflections. On my first 3
> attempts to update with yum on a freshly installed respin1 install, I got
> "nothing to do". So, to use this effectively, I'll be doing an rsync of the
> central repo and then running my own yum repository for my 15-ish servers.
> (They always seem to be somewhat in flux!) Is there a better way to go?
Mirrors are overworked. If you have a few or more than a few machines,
you want to set up a local repository.
> 3) There seems to be a fairly active community around WB Linux. I wonder
> when/if it actually forks? (a la Mandrake) Will it eventually get folded
> back into RedHat like Fedora?
WB is produced from RedHat EL sources, but it is /not/ a RedHat product
or effort. It's independent of RedHat, and I can't see anything
"merging back."
From syv@911networks.com Wed Nov 10 21:41:02 2004
From: syv@911networks.com (Syv Ritch)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:41:02 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Conclusions for WB Linux
In-Reply-To: <200411101313.06100.lists@benjamindsmith.com>
Message-ID: <2004111013412.253608@pond>
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:13:06 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote:
> I've been researching WB Linux for most of today. I discovered
> this just yesterday, and have been searching for an answer to
> the dillema posed by Red Hat: A) Pay too much or B) upgrade
> everything every year
>
> I'm now running WB Linux in a VMWare session, testing it, and
> reading thru the mailing list.
>
> Here's what I've concluded, let me know if I'm wrong:
>
> 1) This is the answer I've been looking for! It's just like RH
> 9, only with security updates! Hoo ya! I love you all! Thank
> you Beauregard Parish Public Library!
>
> 2) There's a real problem with mirrors being dull reflections.
> On my first 3 attempts to update with yum on a freshly
> installed respin1 install, I got "nothing to do". So, to use
> this effectively, I'll be doing an rsync of the central repo
> and then running my own yum repository for my 15-ish servers.
> (They always seem to be somewhat in flux!) Is there a better
> way to go?
>
> 3) There seems to be a fairly active community around WB
> Linux. I wonder when/if it actually forks? (a la Mandrake)
> Will it eventually get folded back into RedHat like Fedora?
>
> -Ben
Alternative 2 Free:
Centos: Caosity.org or Tao Linux
Alternative 3 Paying:
Lineox, commercial support, significantly cheaper the RH.
--
Thanks
syv@911networks.com
When the network has to work
From mikes@hartwellcorp.com Wed Nov 10 21:47:34 2004
From: mikes@hartwellcorp.com (Michael St. Laurent)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:47:34 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Trouble getting Intel Pro 100M NIC working
Message-ID: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C576F3@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
> What do you see if you do a 'lspci |grep -i ether'?
03:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp.: unknown device 1064 (rev03)
From nozy@mozysswamp.org Wed Nov 10 21:56:24 2004
From: nozy@mozysswamp.org (Michael Falzon)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:56:24 +1100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Head Less
In-Reply-To: <41916D84.2000504@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
References: <41916D84.2000504@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <1100123784.4319.13.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
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Hi All
just like to know if some does know can wb3 do a headless install ?
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
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Hi All
just like to know if some does know can wb3 do a headless install ?
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
--=-M3AC3baUuHsNYS3G0MRW--
From randykel@swbell.net Wed Nov 10 22:39:07 2004
From: randykel@swbell.net (Randy Kelsoe)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:39:07 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Re: Trouble getting Intel Pro 100M NIC working
In-Reply-To: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C576F3@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
References: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C576F3@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
Message-ID: <4192988B.7090200@swbell.net>
Michael St. Laurent wrote:
>>What do you see if you do a 'lspci |grep -i ether'?
>>
>>
>
>03:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp.: unknown device 1064 (rev03)
>_______________________________________________
>
>
Interesting. My Whitebox machines do not have an Intel Controller, but
my Fedora Core 2 machine does, and here is the excerpt from an 'lspci -v':
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]
(rev 10)
Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 0070
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
Memory at eb026000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
I/O ports at 9000 [size=64]
Memory at eb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Have you tried a 'modprobe e100' to see what happens? You might also try
running kudzu (service kudzu start) to see if it finds anything.
There are some diags with instructions that may help:
http://www.scyld.com/ethercard_diag.html#pci-diags
You may have a bad card/chipset for your NIC. You said that this is a
built in NIC? Is it a PCI card, or is it integrated on your motherboard?
If it is integrated on your mobo, then check your BIOS settings, though
I don't think that will help. You might also try turning the NIC off in
BIOS, rebooting, then re-enabling it in BIOS and reboot again to see if
kudzu detects it.
One more thing to look at is the /proc/interrupts to see if it is
sharing an interrupt with something else. If it is sharing an interrupt
with something like a usb controller, rmmod the usb driver, and try a
'modprobe e100'.
From kbohling@birddog.com Wed Nov 10 23:05:46 2004
From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby C. Bohling)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:05:46 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Head Less
In-Reply-To: <1100123784.4319.13.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
References: <41916D84.2000504@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> <1100123784.4319.13.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
Message-ID: <20041110230544.GE8156@hawk.birddog.com>
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 08:56:24AM +1100, Michael Falzon wrote:
> Hi All
> just like to know if some does know can wb3 do a headless install ?
Yes. I haven't every done it, but I'm only one step away.
You can do it one of 4 ways:
1. Setup a VNC GUI via a boot disk (never done this personally).
2. Setup a Serial port install (never done this personally).
3. Create a WBEL 3.0 install CD that points to a kickstart file by
default.
4. Use netbooting to do the install.
I've done the kickstart file piece, but I still had to type the
kickstart file I wanted it to use on the syslinux boot prompt.
However, if you burn a new image you can change the default. This
one is brain dead simple. But you need one boot CD for each machine
class you install onto (if there are any varitions in the kickstart
image).
I've done the network boot install via a PXE/DHCP/tftp install. I
forget the details, but it wasn't particularly hard. The one tricky
part is you have to build syslinux to do the initial boot, but it
will suck down a Linux kernel over the wire and boot it with the
options you put into the tftp config files. However, this one is
very nice, as you can use the MAC addr to key the configuration to.
I've set this up in the past because I didn't have CD burner handy,
and I didn't have a boot CD with me to do the install from.
Either 3 or 4 are relatively straight forward. 4 requires you have
another machine on the same LAN, and that the machine supports net
booting.
Thanks,
Kirby
>
>
> See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
> A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
>
>
> Michael Falzon (RHCT)
> Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
> http://mozysswamp.org
> Registered LFS User #406
> Registered Linux User #204397
From jamey@beau.org Thu Nov 11 02:55:20 2004
From: jamey@beau.org (Jamey Fletcher)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:55:20 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] W00T! We are l33t Givez us warez!
Message-ID: <4192D498.6070806@beau.org>
Well, at least, we got a review in NewsForge!
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/08/1719212
I can see the Beauregard Library traffic is going to hurt!
From nozy@mozysswamp.org Thu Nov 11 05:04:29 2004
From: nozy@mozysswamp.org (Michael Falzon)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:04:29 +1100
Subject: [WBEL-users] W00T! We are l33t Givez us warez!
In-Reply-To: <4192D498.6070806@beau.org>
References: <4192D498.6070806@beau.org>
Message-ID: <1100149469.5666.23.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org>
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Had a read of this good to see that its been seen
as for the mission-critical i have this run on
My Swamp (mozysswamp.org)
3 gateway (vpns qos squid )
1 http server / update server ( yum-rsync for my server ) so i don't
over load the net with all my boxs updating
1 logbox ( my own thing )
2 DNS server
1 Mial Server
1 File Server
and my notebook
and i have 1 (www.gremlin.net.au) main site and 6 ( just gateways/mail
server Main files server or backup server) sub site using this too
wb3 has not let me down 1 or 2 funny bugs but thats it
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 13:55, Jamey Fletcher wrote:
> Well, at least, we got a review in NewsForge!
>
> http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/08/1719212
>
> I can see the Beauregard Library traffic is going to hurt!
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Had a read of this good to see that its been seen
as for the mission-critical i have this run on
My Swamp (mozysswamp.org)
3 gateway (vpns qos squid )
1 http server / update server ( yum-rsync for my server ) so i don't over load the net with all my boxs updating
1 logbox ( my own thing )
2 DNS server
1 Mial Server
1 File Server
and my notebook
and i have 1 (www.gremlin.net.au) main site and 6 ( just gateways/mail server Main files server or backup server) sub site using this too
wb3 has not let me down 1 or 2 funny bugs but thats it
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 13:55, Jamey Fletcher wrote:
See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
--=-7ODo30siimKnTssierBe--
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Thu Nov 11 05:20:32 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:20:32 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Conclusions for WB Linux
In-Reply-To: <1100122835.10361.44.camel@asparks>
References: <200411101313.06100.lists@benjamindsmith.com> <1100122835.10361.44.camel@asparks>
Message-ID: <4192F6A0.7090000@platypus.bc.ca>
Alan Sparks wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 14:13, Benjamin Smith wrote:
>>3) There seems to be a fairly active community around WB Linux. I wonder
>>when/if it actually forks? (a la Mandrake) Will it eventually get folded
>>back into RedHat like Fedora?
>
> WB is produced from RedHat EL sources, but it is /not/ a RedHat product
> or effort. It's independent of RedHat, and I can't see anything
> "merging back."
It's joined more than you think.
Some bugs cannot be fixed because of the risk of migrating away from the
upstream source and the added work thereof. Therefore, one bug I've
reported upstream and I'm now only lobbying for some RH guys ot actually
see the patch I'm handing them so that it can roll out in RHEL and thus,
WBEL.
In a sense, they'd be buying something back, but we're only missing the
part where the downstream source is modified.
Unfortunately, this does lend itself to the kind of stress that causes
projects to fork, but I think that Mr Morris will not mind overmuch -
controlling the source doesn't seem along his goals - as long as he's
not dragged into support issues involving derived work, and I think that
any such fork would be completely amicable, with code flying across the
callosum in both directions.
- ..
--
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Thu Nov 11 05:36:28 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:36:28 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] yum updates
In-Reply-To: <200411101633.51895.jon@foneport.com>
References: <200411101633.51895.jon@foneport.com>
Message-ID: <4192FA5C.6020500@platypus.bc.ca>
Jon,
Do you think you want to try to repair your current install, or just
start over?
You should be able to (find and) install the yum RPM with just an rpm-i
invocation, and then you should be off and running once again.
Um, you DO have rpm installed still, right? If not, and you have nfs,
we can mount the root (careful now) over NFS to another machine and use
rpm with the --root on that system to reinstall rpm over the one that's
there. Then we unmount it, quickly, do the rpm--rebuilddb and yum install.
Oh, do an rpm --rebuilddb too, just to ensure you've got something
coherent as an RPMdb, just before adding in the yum RPM or, well,
whenever you think a known-clean RPMdb may be useful.
- bish
Jon Hill wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I am new this list.
> I have White Box running on a development server, I like the ideas behind this
> distribution and hope to become an active contributor if I can over time.
>
> I had WB running on an oldish machine with a 2Gig hard drive. I didn't have a
> great deal of space left I ran out of hard drive space whilst running a yum
> update. I know have a damaged installation and don't know how I would go
> about trying to recover packages. I can't even run yum anymore because it has
> removed itself during the failed update. It was obvioulsy a little silly of
> me to run an auto update on a machine like this one, but is this a flaw in
> the whole yum concept? I had a similar problem running up2date on a RHE3
> server recently. The update process failed and I ended up with RPMs that I
> had to reinstall manually and then repair the package database etc.
>
> Jon
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From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Thu Nov 11 05:37:28 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:37:28 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] thanks for vsftpd responses
In-Reply-To: <41924098.7000803@wsieurope.com>
References: <3D08A6F4-3330-11D9-B0CA-000A95EA5592@well.com> <41924098.7000803@wsieurope.com>
Message-ID: <4192FA98.1070700@platypus.bc.ca>
Yes. The trick is to keep ftps and sftp separate as you talk or write
about them.
Graham Purcocks wrote:
> There is sftp as well just to confuse things.
>
> jim stockford wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for vsftpd responses: I've discovered
>> scp, which uses sshd, requires login, but it's
>> encrypted, not plaintext. As i don't need
>> anonymous ftp, scp is a suitable alternative
>> that does the job.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Whitebox-users mailing list
>> Whitebox-users@beau.org
>> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
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From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Nov 11 09:45:35 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 03:45:35 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] W00T! We are l33t Givez us warez!
In-Reply-To: <4192D498.6070806@beau.org>
References: <4192D498.6070806@beau.org>
Message-ID: <1100166335.13103.14.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 20:55 -0600, Jamey Fletcher wrote:
> Well, at least, we got a review in NewsForge!
>
> http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/08/1719212
>
> I can see the Beauregard Library traffic is going to hurt!
That is a pretty good review :)
The mailing list for WBEL is very helpful ... but for those who want
other options for support, there are companies out there that do support
RHEL type clones.
One company that does this is:
http://www.xos.nl
(I don't know about the company personally, but I had a user on my site
who uses their Linux distro {http://www.xoslinux.org/})
-----------------------------------
There are also some companies providing some support for CentOS:
http://www.centos.org/support/commercial
-----------------------------------
Just another option for those looking for support, but not wanting to
pay $2500.00 per machine per year :)
--
Johnny Hughes
From jon@foneport.com Thu Nov 11 10:08:20 2004
From: jon@foneport.com (Jon Hill)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:08:20 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] yum updates
In-Reply-To: <4192FA5C.6020500@platypus.bc.ca>
References: <200411101633.51895.jon@foneport.com> <4192FA5C.6020500@platypus.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <200411111008.20254.jon@foneport.com>
I took the easy way out and used another machine, but I will have a go at
getting this backup and running. I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks for
the advice.
Jon
On Thursday 11 November 2004 05:36, bishop wrote:
> Jon,
>
> Do you think you want to try to repair your current install, or just
> start over?
>
> You should be able to (find and) install the yum RPM with just an rpm-i
> invocation, and then you should be off and running once again.
>
> Um, you DO have rpm installed still, right? If not, and you have nfs,
> we can mount the root (careful now) over NFS to another machine and use
> rpm with the --root on that system to reinstall rpm over the one that's
> there. Then we unmount it, quickly, do the rpm--rebuilddb and yum install.
>
> Oh, do an rpm --rebuilddb too, just to ensure you've got something
> coherent as an RPMdb, just before adding in the yum RPM or, well,
> whenever you think a known-clean RPMdb may be useful.
>
> - bish
>
> Jon Hill wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am new this list.
> > I have White Box running on a development server, I like the ideas behind
> > this distribution and hope to become an active contributor if I can over
> > time.
> >
> > I had WB running on an oldish machine with a 2Gig hard drive. I didn't
> > have a great deal of space left I ran out of hard drive space whilst
> > running a yum update. I know have a damaged installation and don't know
> > how I would go about trying to recover packages. I can't even run yum
> > anymore because it has removed itself during the failed update. It was
> > obvioulsy a little silly of me to run an auto update on a machine like
> > this one, but is this a flaw in the whole yum concept? I had a similar
> > problem running up2date on a RHE3 server recently. The update process
> > failed and I ended up with RPMs that I had to reinstall manually and then
> > repair the package database etc.
> >
> > Jon
> > _______________________________________________
> > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
From denis@just-servers.co.uk Thu Nov 11 10:53:55 2004
From: denis@just-servers.co.uk (Denis Croombs)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:53:55 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
Message-ID: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
I have just taken over admin for approx 20 Linux systems (RH9.0) and need to
check that they have not been rootkit'd (for my own piece of mind) anybody
had experience of good toolkits for finding out of a system has been
compromised ?
That is before I prepare a plan to change them to Whitebox over the coming
weeks/months.
Thanks
Denis
From haynest@mchsi.com Thu Nov 11 11:13:47 2004
From: haynest@mchsi.com (Thomas E. Haynes)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 06:13:47 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <200411111115.iABBFY8I011128@library.beau.org>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
>
> I have just taken over admin for approx 20 Linux systems
> (RH9.0) and need to check that they have not been rootkit'd
Denis...
I have used rkhunter for my own peace 'o mind.
Good luck and I hope you don't find anything.
Regards... Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
From cpedersen@c-note.dk Thu Nov 11 12:05:57 2004
From: cpedersen@c-note.dk (Casper Pedersen)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:05:57 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] Head Less
In-Reply-To: <20041110230544.GE8156@hawk.birddog.com>
References: <41916D84.2000504@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> <1100123784.4319.13.camel@nb.mozysswamp.org> <20041110230544.GE8156@hawk.birddog.com>
Message-ID: <419355A5.2010208@c-note.dk>
Kirby C. Bohling wrote:
>You can do it one of 4 ways:
>
>1. Setup a VNC GUI via a boot disk (never done this personally).
>
>2. Setup a Serial port install (never done this personally).
>
>3. Create a WBEL 3.0 install CD that points to a kickstart file by
>default.
>
>4. Use netbooting to do the install.
>
>
>
Use the following script to create a boot.iso:
mkisofs -V "" -o .iso -b isolinux.bin
-no-emul-boot -boot-load-size
4 -boot-info-table isolinux/
I have a directory structure like:
build.sh (above)
/isolinux
Copy the contents from /isolinux to ./isolinux, and modify
isolinux.cfg - as you will see is that it looks very much like lilo.conf
- you should probably just a an entry (as the first), when then will
contain what ever you want to add as a kernel parameter.
For netinstall copy all the CD's to a directory, and make sure that the
directory is exported with NFS or FTP or HTTP.
This is how I install all my PC's - flipping CD's is way to much work:-)
Regards/Casper
From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Thu Nov 11 13:29:53 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 07:29:53 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
References: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <1100179793.13098.16.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 10:53 +0000, Denis Croombs wrote:
> I have just taken over admin for approx 20 Linux systems (RH9.0) and need to
> check that they have not been rootkit'd (for my own piece of mind) anybody
> had experience of good toolkits for finding out of a system has been
> compromised ?
>
> That is before I prepare a plan to change them to Whitebox over the coming
> weeks/months.
>
> Thanks
>
> Denis
I use chkrootkit ... you can get a RH9 version here:
http://dag.wieers.com/packages/chkrootkit/
--
Johnny Hughes
From Tony@instaview.com Thu Nov 11 14:41:57 2004
From: Tony@instaview.com (Tony)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:41:57 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
Message-ID: <001401c4c7fc$99093520$0a00a8c0@wonderland>
Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for 'enterprise
management' tools?
Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag. What
is needed is
something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
'admins' ) on my own,
what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
preferably GPL or
BSD licensed..
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From Dan.Geist@cox.com Thu Nov 11 14:58:40 2004
From: Dan.Geist@cox.com (Dan Geist)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:40 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <001401c4c7fc$99093520$0a00a8c0@wonderland>
References: <001401c4c7fc$99093520$0a00a8c0@wonderland>
Message-ID: <1100185120.14654.59.camel@secdev.cox.net>
Tony, That sounds like a perfectly good topic! I wish more people would
talk about management tools in the open-source community, but that's not
to say there's not lots of stuff out there.
The question arises... what exactly are your goals? Also, what types of
machines are you managing?
I worked at a place that had a RH Linux developer core with windows
bus-dev folks. A few cleverly-crafted small scripts were all that was
needed to maintain the developers hosts (nightly updates, etc).
I have some WBEL hosts currently that utilize central authentication
sources using PAM_TACPLUS (so they can share user resources with routers
and switches, etc..).
So... what are you trying to do, exactly?
Dan
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:41, Tony wrote:
> Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for 'enterprise
> management' tools?
>
> Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag. What
> is needed is
> something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
>
> Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
> 'admins' ) on my own,
> what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
> preferably GPL or
> BSD licensed..
>
--
Dan Geist | dan.geist@cox.com | (404)269-6822
Network Security Engineer | Telephony/Data Eng | Cox Communications
From gri0941@uta.edu Thu Nov 11 15:08:53 2004
From: gri0941@uta.edu (Ganeshram Iyer)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:08:53 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] 60GB HD
In-Reply-To: <200411082311.08182.javanree@vanree.net>
References: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu> <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu> <200411082311.08182.javanree@vanree.net>
Message-ID: <41938085.6030504@uta.edu>
Thanks for all the links and comments. But I need to have it writable in
Linux as it is a backup HD which the Windows m/c also need to read/write
to. I tried to partition and format into two 30GB sets and it works
fine. my problem now is that when I mount it on WBEL it is not writable.
I know I need to add permissions when I mount, but my attempts did not
work. Could someone please give me the writable mount command and also
the line to add to /etc/fstab so that this disk is auto-mountable and
unmountable by user. Thanks in advance
Ganesh
Jan-Albert van Ree wrote:
>On Monday 08 November 2004 20:56, Ganeshram Iyer wrote:
>
>
>>I know this question is not Whitebox specific but I had a question
>>regarding a 60GB USB HD which I want to mount and format using Whitebox.
>>What file system do I need to use to ensure that this HD can be read
>>using both Window as well Linux?
>>
>>
>
>If just reading under Linux is sufficient, and write/read under Windows, you
>can use NTFS, and grab the NTFS package and build your own RPM's (or fetch
>them somewhere, I've got NTFS RPM's at
>http://www.vanree.net/wbel30/personal/ , they need to match your WBEL
>kernel!) I mount my Windows XP partition this way. I used FAT32 for my
>games/"data" partition (real data never goes beyond my Linux install, thus
>on EXT3)
>
>If you want to read+write under Linux you're stuck with FAT32 as far as I
>know, and you'll have to split the disk, FAT32 IIRC doesn't go beyond about
>32 GB.
>
>
From webmaster@ew3d.com Thu Nov 11 15:21:00 2004
From: webmaster@ew3d.com (John Hinton)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:21:00 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <1100185120.14654.59.camel@secdev.cox.net>
References: <001401c4c7fc$99093520$0a00a8c0@wonderland> <1100185120.14654.59.camel@secdev.cox.net>
Message-ID: <4193835C.5040706@ew3d.com>
>
>On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:41, Tony wrote:
>
>
>>Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for 'enterprise
>>management' tools?
>>
>>Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag. What
>>is needed is
>>something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
>>
>>Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
>>'admins' ) on my own,
>>what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
>>preferably GPL or
>>BSD licensed..
>>
>>
>>
Webmin is a pretty good free tool. One of its best features is that it
seems to work along just fine from both the GUI as well as getting along
with hand configs done through the console. It is a little rough around
the edges, and a bit unclear as to just what you're doing sometimes, but
rarely does it actually break something. It also has a clustering
package to manage many servers at once. Buy the book, and give it a run.
I'm very happy with it myself. OH, and it is GPL and it is mostly
written in perl, so you can hack areas if you need/want to.
Best,
John Hinton
From lists@ehome.net Thu Nov 11 15:28:26 2004
From: lists@ehome.net (eLists)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:28:26 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] how can I force a YUM upgrade/update?
Message-ID:
Hello,
I recently setup a Whitebox server with Webmin. While performing the
YUM update to install all new packages/updates my internet connection
apparently got interrupted. As a result the updates did not complete.
Is there a way I can force the update to either start over or complete?
The server is now in a data center (I didn't notice the problem at
first), so being able to do this remotely would be very helpful.
Otherwise a trip down there would be required.
Thanks for any help/pointers on how to fix this.
Dale
From michiele@info.nl Thu Nov 11 16:03:50 2004
From: michiele@info.nl (Michiel van Es)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:03:50 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] upgrade with yum or apt from red hat 9.0 to whitebox linux
Message-ID: <41938D66.3080306@info.nl>
Hi,
is this possible and if not why is it possible with CentOS en Lineox
(other RHEL clones) and not with WhiteBox?
Some people like Fedora over Whitebox 'cause of the yum upgrade
possibility to update all you red hat 9.0 servers to Fedora Core 2/3.
has anyone already did a succesful upgrade with yum/apt to whitebox?
We want to do this for our remote servers.
Thanks in advance.
--
Kind Regards,
Michiel
From kbohling@birddog.com Thu Nov 11 16:36:05 2004
From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby C. Bohling)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:36:05 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
References: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
Message-ID: <20041111163557.GA10677@hawk.birddog.com>
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:53:55AM -0000, Denis Croombs wrote:
> I have just taken over admin for approx 20 Linux systems (RH9.0) and need
> to check that they have not been rootkit'd (for my own piece of mind)
> anybody had experience of good toolkits for finding out of a system has
> been compromised ?
>
It's not exactly what you asked for. However, this might be useful
to you. I've used the techniques described below to check out
machines I just took over. Sorry if this all obvious to you. I
sure wish somebody had pointed it out to me earlier in my admin
experience.
> That is before I prepare a plan to change them to Whitebox over the coming
> weeks/months.
If you have a known copy of the RPM database, you can use commands
like this (or you can probably build one with the original packages
if use the --justdb option and change the rpmdb path, you can build
a RPM db for the packages you believe should be installed on the
machine):
Boot off a known clean disk image, mount the disks you want to
check:
$ for foo in `rpm -q -a` ; do rpm -V --nomd5 $foo ; done
$ find / -type f \! -exec rpm --quiet -q -f {} \; -print
You'll need to modify them to --root and use the --redhatprovides
to do the job. You'll probably want to remove the --nomd5 from the
options also to be more secure.
I've used the two above commands to find absolutely every file on a
machine that isn't the same as what came out of an RPM. I trusted
the RPM database on the machine. If you don't, you'll have to do
like I said and add the --root and --redhatprovides options for RPM.
It's a poor mans way of running/simulating tripwire after the fact.
The one serious issue with this is that you might have to replace
the initrd images on /boot to be absolutely sure everything is
clean (I believe those are built by a script, not installed from the
RPM, thus I don't believe they are in the database, if they are you
shouldn't trust them anyways, they are good place for a rootkit to
attack to get access to the machine early in the boot cycle).
As long as I'm making the list, this is a good command to see what
packages have been updated/installed since the machine was installed:
rpm -q -a --queryformat "%{INSTALLTIME:date} %{NAME}\n"
Load that into a spreadsheet and sort by the date. There should be
a fairly obvious break in the times, that's probably the last
package that got installed on the original install.
In the end, when I take over a box, I've found these to be useful to
find everything on the machine that isn't stock. It's a quick and
relatively painless way to find out what sorts of things I need to
look out for.
Thanks,
Kirby
From kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com Thu Nov 11 16:53:49 2004
From: kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com (Jason Balicki)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:53:49 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <001401c4c7fc$99093520$0a00a8c0@wonderland>
Message-ID: <005101c4c80f$04305ec0$0501a8c0@darkside>
Tony <> wrote:
> Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for
> 'enterprise management' tools?
What type of management? There are all kinds of tools out
there (many half-finished, but I digress) to help you manage
machines of all types.
There's patch management, network management, server management,
user management, antivirus management, resource accounting (printers,
etc.,) fried shrimp, shrimp gumbo, asset management, backup management
and more; not to mention the Windows & Linux variations of all of these.
For the record, I use a multitude of tools. Here's a short list
off of the top of my head:
1) Scripts. Scripts. Scripts. For a lot of things. For example,
I use a relatively simple script to retrieve anti-virus logs off
of my workstations and sort through them for errors, warnings
and virus reports. I have another that performs auxiliary backups
to firewire hard drives connected to my backup server. There
are many, many more. You can't beat the portability and tweakability
of shell or perl scripts for quick and dirty tasks that turn into
long term solutions.
2) ntop. Get good stats on your servers.
3) Avalon. Ditto, but different.
4) Vendor tools. For example, my phone system comes with an
"enterprise class" web based administration tool. What I can't
figure out is why some vendors believe "enterprise class" means
"make it with a bad UI and make it with Java".
5) snmp/mrtg/rrdtool. Sort of falls in the "scripts" category but
has a special place in my heart. Every network device you own
probably has SNMP capabilities. If it doesn't, you're using the
wrong network device. :) You can use mrtg or rrdtool (with
supporting software) to report stats back from those devices.
Want to know which users are sucking up your bandwidth? Point
snmp & mrtg at your managed switch & go bonk the offender on
the head. Want to know which virus you get sent the most? Do
some data massaging on your mail logs and report with rrdtool
(in a script, of course), then you can see your virus stats at
a glance. You can add all this info to a single web page and
have all your important network information available at one
bookmark.
6) "Network Management Suites" such as HP Openview and others
that try to tie a lot of things together into one central
application. Sometimes these work well, other times they don't.
Most vendors are willing to give you a crippled demo, but the
demo invariably cripples the part that you were interested in.
Most of these are reporting tools, but that's a big part of
management. The context of your message makes me think that
you were looking more for user/client computer management tools.
For the user part LDAP seems to be one answer, but it's big and
complex and difficult to wrap your head around at first.
"Lightweight" my ass. :) For the computer management: you can
use samba to some degree. You can also use the pstools suite
to craft your own remote management stuff. There may be a
third party tool out there that might help. Novell might
be cooking something up to add to NDS (or maybe they already
have -- I haven't looked at Novell in a long, long time.)
HTH, and I'm looking forward to a good discussion on the list
about this sort of thing -- if it's not too OT.
--J(K)
From dsimoes@linkshare.com Thu Nov 11 16:50:34 2004
From: dsimoes@linkshare.com (Dan Simoes)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:50:34 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <20041111163557.GA10677@hawk.birddog.com>
Message-ID: <200411111650.iABGoTWB028778@mail.linkshare.com>
How about the chkrootkit software?
http://www.chkrootkit.org/
From denis@just-servers.co.uk Thu Nov 11 16:58:06 2004
From: denis@just-servers.co.uk (Denis Croombs)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:58:06 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <20041111163557.GA10677@hawk.birddog.com>
Message-ID: <200411111658.iABGwFc29799@sentry.3d-computers.co.uk>
Many thanks for all the usefull info, I am now looking at these so far the
systems are clean.
I am very impressed by some of the tricks in the response from Kirby and
will be using them, they look amazing.
Thanks Again
Denis
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From weeboy@conorwynne.com Thu Nov 11 17:39:11 2004
From: weeboy@conorwynne.com (Conor Wynne)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:39:11 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
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References: <001401c4c7fc$99093520$0a00a8c0@wonderland>
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On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 15:21, John Hinton wrote:
> >
> >On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:41, Tony wrote:
> > =20
> >
> >>Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for 'enterp=
rise
> >>management' tools?
Nessus?=20
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From hawk82 Thu Nov 11 17:46:09 2004
From: hawk82 (hawk82)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:46:09 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <200411111658.iABGwFc29799@sentry.3d-computers.co.uk>
References: <20041111163557.GA10677@hawk.birddog.com>
<200411111658.iABGwFc29799@sentry.3d-computers.co.uk>
Message-ID:
Rootkit Hunter:
http://www.rootkit.nl/
I helped the developers create MD5 sums for WBEL.
I've been using it for months now and it works great as far as I can tell.
Josh
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:58:06 -0000, Denis Croombs
wrote:
> Many thanks for all the usefull info, I am now looking at these so far the
> systems are clean.
>
> I am very impressed by some of the tricks in the response from Kirby and
> will be using them, they look amazing.
>
> Thanks Again
>
> Denis
>
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From WBEL-User03@TheMoreIKnow.info Thu Nov 11 18:22:34 2004
From: WBEL-User03@TheMoreIKnow.info (Bernie Hoefer)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:22:34 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] 60GB HD
In-Reply-To: <41938085.6030504@uta.edu>
References: <0411081099.AA1099945646@ws3.cimex.com.cu> <418FCF63.9070108@uta.edu> <200411082311.08182.javanree@vanree.net> <41938085.6030504@uta.edu>
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Ganeshram Iyer wrote:
===
> work. Could someone please give me the writable mount command and also
> the line to add to /etc/fstab so that this disk is auto-mountable and
> unmountable by user. Thanks in advance
===
Below is what I have in my /etc/fstab that automatically mounts my
FAT32 formated partition. My 'unpriviledged' users can read & write to it.
/dev/hda1 /mnt/C vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,iocharset=utf8 0 0
As you can probably tell from that line, the mount command to do the
same thing should be
mount -t vfat -o users,gid=users,umask=0002,iocharset=utf8 /dev/hda1 /mnt/C
(One doesn't need to include "rw" in the options since that is the
default. Feel free to add it, though, if you want.)
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From tony@instaview.com Thu Nov 11 19:15:14 2004
From: tony@instaview.com (Tony)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:15:14 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <20041111165401.26782.39759.Mailman@library.beau.org>
References: <20041111165401.26782.39759.Mailman@library.beau.org>
Message-ID: <200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
This is where I'm coming from:
I have a setup that will be about 500 workstations, and a handfull of servers.
About 500 or so users as well.
What we need is a way to *centrally* manage the PCs and users, not the
traditional Unix way of managing them on the workstation.. ( running them as
dumb X terminals isn't the solution here, due to bandwidth ). That sort of
'management' just isn't practical at this level.
By 'manage' the users: central database of logins, and policy rights. LDAP
makes the most sence here of course. All workstations need to hit the LDAP
server for authentication, and 'policies'.
Need the ability to create and manage the 'directory' from several locations
( this part isn't hard i realize as LDAP can be accessed remotely. )
I'm still messing with kiosk mode for KDE for desktop control, and if that
does a good enough job ill want to head that direction as well, but that
would need to also tie back to groups defined in the 'directrory server'.
Manage the desktops: Again, central database control. Need to be able to
create groups of workstations, so as to install/remove applications with out
having to touch each workstation manually, ( even remotely ).
I know things such as ssh and webmin can do this remotely, but its still a
manual, one by one process.
I guess it just boils down to managing the entire enterprise via 'policies',
from a central location.. not ever having to touch a PC manually unless it
dies, and having *all* software policy, and login information stored on a
central directory.
Those of us from a large windows enterprise know what I'm talking about
when i speak of SMS, GPO and AD.. thats what i want to emulate, as much
as is possible..
Enterprise monitoring, thats taken care of as there are plenty of 'enterprise'
monitoring tools..
>
> Message: 9
> Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
> From: Dan Geist
> To: Tony@instaview.com
> Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:40 -0500
>
> Tony, That sounds like a perfectly good topic! I wish more people would
> talk about management tools in the open-source community, but that's not
> to say there's not lots of stuff out there.
>
> The question arises... what exactly are your goals? Also, what types of
> machines are you managing?
>
> I worked at a place that had a RH Linux developer core with windows
> bus-dev folks. A few cleverly-crafted small scripts were all that was
> needed to maintain the developers hosts (nightly updates, etc).
>
> I have some WBEL hosts currently that utilize central authentication
> sources using PAM_TACPLUS (so they can share user resources with routers
> and switches, etc..).
>
> So... what are you trying to do, exactly?
>
> Dan
>
> On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:41, Tony wrote:
> > Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for
> > 'enterprise management' tools?
> >
> > Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag.
> > What is needed is
> > something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
> >
> > Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
> > 'admins' ) on my own,
> > what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
> > preferably GPL or
> > BSD licensed..
>
> --
> Dan Geist | dan.geist@cox.com | (404)269-6822
> Network Security Engineer | Telephony/Data Eng | Cox Communications
>
From denis@just-servers.co.uk Thu Nov 11 19:15:34 2004
From: denis@just-servers.co.uk (Denis Croombs)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:15:34 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <20041111163557.GA10677@hawk.birddog.com>
Message-ID: <200411112030.iABKUZn03284@rack1.just-hosting.biz>
I have found some of my customers systems have had the root password changed
remotely by an ex-employee, I know I can go do a rescue CD boot and change
the root password to something I know BUT I have a few questions.
1) What files record when root last loged in and from what IP address ?
2) What file record any other activity by the same person ?
3) What log files should be kept for handing over to the police ?
(we have informed them and they are sending someone tomorrow)
4) What else should I be doing ?
All help would be very helpful
(I think I know the answer to most of the above must I MUST do a sanity
check ! ) I just do not want to miss anything.
Regards
Denis
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From weeboy@conorwynne.com Thu Nov 11 19:28:12 2004
From: weeboy@conorwynne.com (Conor Wynne)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:28:12 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <200411112030.iABKUZn03284@rack1.just-hosting.biz>
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On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 19:15, Denis Croombs wrote:
> I have found some of my customers systems have had the root password chan=
ged
> remotely by an ex-employee, I know I can go do a rescue CD boot and chang=
e
> the root password to something I know BUT I have a few questions.
>=20
> 1) What files record when root last loged in and from what IP address ?
> 2) What file record any other activity by the same person ?
> 3) What log files should be kept for handing over to the police ?
> (we have informed them and they are sending someone tomorrow)
Try "last", this will show you the last logins from wherever.=20
e.g.:
root pts/1 snowwhite.conorw Thu Nov 11 19:25 still logged in
root pts/0 213.94.228.209 Thu Nov 11 10:27 - 14:36 (04:09)
root pts/1 213.94.228.209 Thu Nov 11 08:54 - 08:55 (00:00)
> 4) What else should I be doing ?
Run "chkrootkit" - google for it.=20
Tar up /var/log for reference. Maybe get a snapshot of the entire system
for offline analysis.
> All help would be very helpful=20
> (I think I know the answer to most of the above must I MUST do a sanity
> check ! ) I just do not want to miss anything.
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> Denis
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From kbohling@birddog.com Thu Nov 11 20:04:38 2004
From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby C. Bohling)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:04:38 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <200411112030.iABKUZn03284@rack1.just-hosting.biz>
References: <20041111163557.GA10677@hawk.birddog.com> <200411112030.iABKUZn03284@rack1.just-hosting.biz>
Message-ID: <20041111200437.GG10677@hawk.birddog.com>
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:15:34PM -0000, Denis Croombs wrote:
> I have found some of my customers systems have had the root password changed
> remotely by an ex-employee, I know I can go do a rescue CD boot and change
> the root password to something I know BUT I have a few questions.
>
Take the machine offline, duplicate the disk, run an MD5SUM of
the original write it down for documentation purposes. Put the new
drive back in, do your forensics off the new duplicate copy. If you
want to start over on the forensics just copy the original disk
again. Don't even mount the drive, just use "dd" to copy the
individual partitions if need be.
In the US, I believe that's the policy of the FBI and police to
avoid data integrity accusations in court. The defendant in the
case claims he's being framed, they can't prove that someone didn't
setup a harddrive to look just like he did it. So they keep an
absolutely original copy w/ md5sum from the moment they touched the
drive. Thus the forensics can be duplicated both independent
experts.
Now because the drive has been in your hands, it might be
unnecessary for the md5sum. However, I'd want an original copy I
could always duplicate to start over with to double check that I
hadn't modified something. I'd always mount the disk read only so I
didn't accidently change a filesystem timestamp or contents by
accident.
> 1) What files record when root last loged in and from what IP address ?
Normally the command "last", will tell you the last sets of login's.
Last parses a file named utmp or wtmp. I forget it's location, but
it's not a human readable file. Just use "last".
If they logged in via ssh, I believe that /var/log/messages has the
timestamps (not sure about IP's).
$ grep "sshd" /var/log/messages
It appears to give me the reverse lookup, and fall back to the IP,
the reverse name could be faked, but that's a lot of work for the
attacker to go to. (Generally storing IP's is easier, faster, and
more reliable. I wish more people did that, or at least stored both
in logs).
If they didn't log into the machine as root, they probably su'ed,
for that do this:
$ grep "su" /var/log/messages
If they logged into the console this should bring up the appropriate
lines:
$ grep "login" /var/log/messages
You'll probably have to look closer at it. The archive logs might
have rolled, so you might have to look at files with the same
prefix. The person who did this is a fool if they didn't wipe the
logs however.
> 2) What file record any other activity by the same person ?
If it is anywhere, it'll probably be in this directory:
/var/log
It might be in the .bash_history of the various users you believe
they are logged in as (save this file as soon as possible). It
generally only holds 1000 commands, so if you do too much logged in
as root, it'll erase what history you have.
> 3) What log files should be kept for handing over to the police ?
> (we have informed them and they are sending someone tomorrow)
Keep the original disk if at all possible. If they are serious
about forensics, they'll immediatly duplicate it as described above.
I'm doubtful they'll take you terribly seriously unless you can
demonstrate serious financial damage. However, it never hurts to
assume they will take it seriously.
>
> 4) What else should I be doing ?
>
> All help would be very helpful
> (I think I know the answer to most of the above must I MUST do a sanity
> check ! ) I just do not want to miss anything.
>
I'd take the machine offline and try the rootkits the other people
have mentioned. I'd examine everything:
/var/spool/cron/
/etc/cron.*
/etc/cron
That's where crontabs are stored.
Those are the places people stick files to do nasty things in a
week. I forget where "at" stores it's commands. You probably want
to check that too.
I've had one machine broken into, we setup a new machine to replace
the existing one. We burned the old one to the ground once we
figured out what they had done. Made sure we had patched for the
attack they used and got current with all the other patches we could
for security purposes.
I can understand your reluctance if it's a customer machine, or if
you have to do this for 20 machines in a short period.
There's a ton of things to do, I really don't want to ramble on,
it's not an area I have great deal of knowledge or expertise on.
I've read about this before, but never had to deal with it
personally much. You really should find a forensics expertise list.
I've really just listed the things I've done to track down what
happened to a machine when I can't get in touch with the admin.
Looking in /var/log/messages, and examining .bash_history of various
users is an easy way of seeing what someone has been doing on your
machine. However, a compentent malicious user won't leave those
behind.
Thanks,
Kirby
From Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com Thu Nov 11 20:09:52 2004
From: Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com (Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:09:52 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <001401c4c7fc$99093520$0a00a8c0@wonderland>
Message-ID:
A good starting point is to setup ssh key authentication everywhere and
write a script like this:
Note: what you see here is pieces of a larger, more complex script but the
general idea is intact.
This has a ton of uses. Name it "SSH" and use it to run a command on all
of your systems, like 'SSH /sbin/chkconfig --list xinetd'.
The "more complex" part that I pulled out is mainly cases and arguments to
target groups of systems.
#!/bin/bash
#SSH
SYSTEM_LIST=/data/scripts/PRE_config/allsystems
SYSTEMS=`cat $SYSTEM_LIST | grep -v ^#`
case $# in
*)
case $1 in
"-q" )
QUIET=1
CMD=`echo $@ | cut -d\ -f 2-`
;;
*)
CMD=$@
;;
esac
;;
esac
function is_host_up {
if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
echo "Specify a host or ip as an argument."
else
echo $1 | fping -t 250 -r 1 -a 2>/dev/null
fi
}
for system in $SYSTEMS; do
if [ ! "$QUIET" ]; then
echo "###############################################"
echo $system; echo "*****"
fi
if [ `is_host_up $system` ]; then
ssh $system "$CMD";
else
echo "Skipping $system - unavailable"
fi
if [ ! "$QUIET" ]; then echo "*****"; fi
done
#EOF
"Tony"
Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
11/11/2004 08:41 AM
Please respond to
To
cc
Subject
[WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for
'enterprise
management' tools?
Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag. What
is needed is
something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
'admins' ) on my own,
what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
preferably GPL or
BSD licensed..
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From jaire@preciant.com Thu Nov 11 20:46:35 2004
From: jaire@preciant.com (Jeremy Bowers)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:46:35 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
References: <20041111165401.26782.39759.Mailman@library.beau.org> <200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
Message-ID: <4193CFAB.5040802@preciant.com>
If you're used to windows you can use Active Directory with Linux/Unix
via Vintela's cool software.
http://www.vintela.com
It's not free, but it does a great job of managing Linux boxen with
Active Directory.
--Jeremy
Tony wrote:
>This is where I'm coming from:
>
>I have a setup that will be about 500 workstations, and a handfull of servers.
>About 500 or so users as well.
>
>What we need is a way to *centrally* manage the PCs and users, not the
>traditional Unix way of managing them on the workstation.. ( running them as
>dumb X terminals isn't the solution here, due to bandwidth ). That sort of
>'management' just isn't practical at this level.
>
>By 'manage' the users: central database of logins, and policy rights. LDAP
>makes the most sence here of course. All workstations need to hit the LDAP
>server for authentication, and 'policies'.
>
>Need the ability to create and manage the 'directory' from several locations
>( this part isn't hard i realize as LDAP can be accessed remotely. )
>
>I'm still messing with kiosk mode for KDE for desktop control, and if that
>does a good enough job ill want to head that direction as well, but that
>would need to also tie back to groups defined in the 'directrory server'.
>
>Manage the desktops: Again, central database control. Need to be able to
>create groups of workstations, so as to install/remove applications with out
>having to touch each workstation manually, ( even remotely ).
>
>I know things such as ssh and webmin can do this remotely, but its still a
>manual, one by one process.
>
>I guess it just boils down to managing the entire enterprise via 'policies',
>from a central location.. not ever having to touch a PC manually unless it
>dies, and having *all* software policy, and login information stored on a
>central directory.
>
>Those of us from a large windows enterprise know what I'm talking about
>when i speak of SMS, GPO and AD.. thats what i want to emulate, as much
>as is possible..
>
>Enterprise monitoring, thats taken care of as there are plenty of 'enterprise'
>monitoring tools..
>
>
>
>
>
>>Message: 9
>>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
>>From: Dan Geist
>>To: Tony@instaview.com
>>Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
>>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:40 -0500
>>
>>Tony, That sounds like a perfectly good topic! I wish more people would
>>talk about management tools in the open-source community, but that's not
>>to say there's not lots of stuff out there.
>>
>>The question arises... what exactly are your goals? Also, what types of
>>machines are you managing?
>>
>>I worked at a place that had a RH Linux developer core with windows
>>bus-dev folks. A few cleverly-crafted small scripts were all that was
>>needed to maintain the developers hosts (nightly updates, etc).
>>
>>I have some WBEL hosts currently that utilize central authentication
>>sources using PAM_TACPLUS (so they can share user resources with routers
>>and switches, etc..).
>>
>>So... what are you trying to do, exactly?
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:41, Tony wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for
>>>'enterprise management' tools?
>>>
>>>Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag.
>>>What is needed is
>>>something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
>>>
>>>Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
>>>'admins' ) on my own,
>>>what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
>>>preferably GPL or
>>>BSD licensed..
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Dan Geist | dan.geist@cox.com | (404)269-6822
>>Network Security Engineer | Telephony/Data Eng | Cox Communications
>>
>>
>>
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From j@lumiere.net Thu Nov 11 21:01:03 2004
From: j@lumiere.net (Jesse)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:01:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
References: <20041111165401.26782.39759.Mailman@library.beau.org>
<200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
Message-ID:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Tony wrote:
> I have a setup that will be about 500 workstations, and a handfull of servers.
> About 500 or so users as well.
>
> What we need is a way to *centrally* manage the PCs and users, not the
>
> By 'manage' the users: central database of logins, and policy rights. LDAP
> makes the most sence here of course. All workstations need to hit the LDAP
> server for authentication, and 'policies'.
You may want to check out radmind at
http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/radmind/
It uses policies to manage the filesystems of groups of unix machines. It
can also detect changes in files (integrity checking). You manage machines
by describing the 'loadsets' they consist of. The loadsets are stored on a
remote/central server. You can make a change on the server and have it
reflected on all the appropriate machines.
I haven't used it much myself yet but I've heard lots of good things and
been looking into using it myself.
Best regards,
From Jim Wildman Thu Nov 11 21:01:06 2004
From: Jim Wildman (Jim Wildman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:01:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
References: <20041111165401.26782.39759.Mailman@library.beau.org>
<200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
Message-ID:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Tony wrote:
> This is where I'm coming from:
>
> I have a setup that will be about 500 workstations, and a handfull of servers.
> About 500 or so users as well.
>
> What we need is a way to *centrally* manage the PCs and users, not the
> traditional Unix way of managing them on the workstation.. ( running them as
> dumb X terminals isn't the solution here, due to bandwidth ). That sort of
> 'management' just isn't practical at this level.
>
A couple of suggestions that I am working on:
cfengine. http://www.cfengine.org/
Cfengine, or the configuration engine is an autonomous agent and a
middle to high level policy language for building expert systems which
administrate and configure large computer networks. Cfengine uses the
idea of classes and a primitive intelligence to define and automate the
configuration and maintenance of system state, for small to huge
configurations. Cfengine is designed to be a part of a computer immune
system, and can be thought of as a gaming agent. It is ideal for cluster
management and has been adopted for use all over the world in small and
huge organizations alike.
GOSA:
GOsa is a PHP-based administration tool for role-based managing of
accounts and systems in LDAP databases. Standard configurations can
manage generic, POSIX/shadow, postfix/cyrus/sieve, pureftpd, fax, and
samba 2/3 accounts in LDAP. It has plugins for DNS (BIND), DHCP (ISC
dhcpd), and system/terminal management. The look and feel can be easily
adapted to users' needs.
http://freshmeat.net/redir/gosa/31362/url_homepage/gosa
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From pete@ex-parrot.com Thu Nov 11 21:14:22 2004
From: pete@ex-parrot.com (Pete Stevens)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:14:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <200411112030.iABKUZn03284@rack1.just-hosting.biz>
References: <200411112030.iABKUZn03284@rack1.just-hosting.biz>
Message-ID:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Denis Croombs wrote:
> I have found some of my customers systems have had the root password changed
> remotely by an ex-employee, I know I can go do a rescue CD boot and change
> the root password to something I know BUT I have a few questions.
>
> 1) What files record when root last loged in and from what IP address ?
> 2) What file record any other activity by the same person ?
> 3) What log files should be kept for handing over to the police ?
> (we have informed them and they are sending someone tomorrow)
>
> 4) What else should I be doing ?
I went on the SANS network security auditing course. The hard part about
involving the police is managing custody of the evidence, if you hope to
prosecute I'd strongly suggest talking to a solictor - the information they
gave me was some time ago and complicated about how you prove that the
evidence is admissable in court.
Secondly, expect them to cart off the original disks and possibly the whole
machine and that it might not be returned for a very long time.
You'll then need a expert witness to do the dissection who can stand up in
court and say 'I believe that person X made the modifications'.
I'd recommend the SANS network team here - they run honey pots and are well
practiced and respected for their ability to dissect hacked machine and figure
out what happened to them.
Hope this helps,
Yours,
Pete Stevens
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From mikes@hartwellcorp.com Thu Nov 11 22:51:49 2004
From: mikes@hartwellcorp.com (Michael St. Laurent)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:51:49 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Only 3 of 4 GB of RAM showing
Message-ID: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C57706@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
I've got a system with 4GB of RAM but only 3GB are showing up in the top
command.
Is there a problem with >3GB RAM?
--
Michael St. Laurent
Hartwell Corporation
From hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com Thu Nov 11 23:48:24 2004
From: hescominsoon@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:48:24 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Business software for linux
Message-ID: <4193FA48.5010609@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
I am hoping to find a inventory management program suitable for
something like a bookstore or other 1-5 person smb. The software
would need to be able to accept inputs from wireless handheld
scanning devices for entry into the system. It must also work
with their windows based PoS computer. Any suggestions would be
highly appreciated.
William
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From weeboy@conorwynne.com Thu Nov 11 23:50:53 2004
From: weeboy@conorwynne.com (Conor Wynne)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:50:53 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Only 3 of 4 GB of RAM showing
In-Reply-To: <91A5926EFF44D3118B1200104B7276EB02C57706@hart-exchange.hartwellcorp.com>
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> I've got a system with 4GB of RAM but only 3GB are showing up in the top
> command.
>=20
> Is there a problem with >3GB RAM?
Nope, its likely that your system can auto remap the missing RAM when
required.=20
The "default" kernel supports up to 4GB, over that you need
kernel-enterprise for up to 16GB, or recompile with himem support.=20
So your are fine, as long as POST sees 4GB :-0
>=20
> --=20
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From liverbird89@hotmail.com Fri Nov 12 00:13:23 2004
From: liverbird89@hotmail.com (Graham Waring)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:13:23 +1000
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
Message-ID:
G'day all,
Great advice here from Kirby. My first port of call in situations like this
is always the wtmp file, just try utmpdump /var/log/wtmp which is quite
helpful.
Good luck
Graham
>From: "Kirby C. Bohling"
>To: Denis Croombs
>CC: whitebox-users@beau.org
>Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:04:38 -0600
>
>On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:15:34PM -0000, Denis Croombs wrote:
> > I have found some of my customers systems have had the root password
>changed
> > remotely by an ex-employee, I know I can go do a rescue CD boot and
>change
> > the root password to something I know BUT I have a few questions.
> >
>
> Take the machine offline, duplicate the disk, run an MD5SUM of
>the original write it down for documentation purposes. Put the new
>drive back in, do your forensics off the new duplicate copy. If you
>want to start over on the forensics just copy the original disk
>again. Don't even mount the drive, just use "dd" to copy the
>individual partitions if need be.
>
> In the US, I believe that's the policy of the FBI and police to
>avoid data integrity accusations in court. The defendant in the
>case claims he's being framed, they can't prove that someone didn't
>setup a harddrive to look just like he did it. So they keep an
>absolutely original copy w/ md5sum from the moment they touched the
>drive. Thus the forensics can be duplicated both independent
>experts.
>
> Now because the drive has been in your hands, it might be
>unnecessary for the md5sum. However, I'd want an original copy I
>could always duplicate to start over with to double check that I
>hadn't modified something. I'd always mount the disk read only so I
>didn't accidently change a filesystem timestamp or contents by
>accident.
>
> > 1) What files record when root last loged in and from what IP address ?
>
>Normally the command "last", will tell you the last sets of login's.
>Last parses a file named utmp or wtmp. I forget it's location, but
>it's not a human readable file. Just use "last".
>
>If they logged in via ssh, I believe that /var/log/messages has the
>timestamps (not sure about IP's).
>
>$ grep "sshd" /var/log/messages
>
>It appears to give me the reverse lookup, and fall back to the IP,
>the reverse name could be faked, but that's a lot of work for the
>attacker to go to. (Generally storing IP's is easier, faster, and
>more reliable. I wish more people did that, or at least stored both
>in logs).
>
>If they didn't log into the machine as root, they probably su'ed,
>for that do this:
>
>$ grep "su" /var/log/messages
>
>If they logged into the console this should bring up the appropriate
>lines:
>
>$ grep "login" /var/log/messages
>
>You'll probably have to look closer at it. The archive logs might
>have rolled, so you might have to look at files with the same
>prefix. The person who did this is a fool if they didn't wipe the
>logs however.
>
> > 2) What file record any other activity by the same person ?
>
>If it is anywhere, it'll probably be in this directory:
>
>/var/log
>
>It might be in the .bash_history of the various users you believe
>they are logged in as (save this file as soon as possible). It
>generally only holds 1000 commands, so if you do too much logged in
>as root, it'll erase what history you have.
>
>
> > 3) What log files should be kept for handing over to the police ?
> > (we have informed them and they are sending someone tomorrow)
>
>Keep the original disk if at all possible. If they are serious
>about forensics, they'll immediatly duplicate it as described above.
>
>I'm doubtful they'll take you terribly seriously unless you can
>demonstrate serious financial damage. However, it never hurts to
>assume they will take it seriously.
>
> >
> > 4) What else should I be doing ?
> >
> > All help would be very helpful
> > (I think I know the answer to most of the above must I MUST do a sanity
> > check ! ) I just do not want to miss anything.
> >
>
>I'd take the machine offline and try the rootkits the other people
>have mentioned. I'd examine everything:
>
>/var/spool/cron/
>/etc/cron.*
>/etc/cron
>
>That's where crontabs are stored.
>
>Those are the places people stick files to do nasty things in a
>week. I forget where "at" stores it's commands. You probably want
>to check that too.
>
>I've had one machine broken into, we setup a new machine to replace
>the existing one. We burned the old one to the ground once we
>figured out what they had done. Made sure we had patched for the
>attack they used and got current with all the other patches we could
>for security purposes.
>
>I can understand your reluctance if it's a customer machine, or if
>you have to do this for 20 machines in a short period.
>
>There's a ton of things to do, I really don't want to ramble on,
>it's not an area I have great deal of knowledge or expertise on.
>I've read about this before, but never had to deal with it
>personally much. You really should find a forensics expertise list.
>
>I've really just listed the things I've done to track down what
>happened to a machine when I can't get in touch with the admin.
>Looking in /var/log/messages, and examining .bash_history of various
>users is an easy way of seeing what someone has been doing on your
>machine. However, a compentent malicious user won't leave those
>behind.
>
> Thanks,
> Kirby
>
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From cameron@gwschool.com Fri Nov 12 00:36:07 2004
From: cameron@gwschool.com (Cameron Showalter)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:36:07 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Business software for linux
In-Reply-To: <4193FA48.5010609@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
References: <4193FA48.5010609@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <41940577.1000403@gwschool.com>
William Warren wrote:
> I am hoping to find a inventory management program suitable for
> something like a bookstore or other 1-5 person smb. The software
> would need to be able to accept inputs from wireless handheld scanning
> devices for entry into the system. It must also work with their
> windows based PoS computer. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
> William
I'm assuming you want to run on whitebox? my company uses
counterpoint (www.synchronics.com) for inventory, order entry and PoS.
as robust as you want to make it, or are willing to pay for... I
believe they have phased out palm support, but it can work with winCE.
Although not supported on WBEL, it is supported on RHEL and works just
fine with WBEL if you install legacy support.
I like counterpoint because you really don't need to change over to
expensive hardware in order for it to work well. I have a dual xeon
server supporting 100 users at 8 locations, all transactions are done
live on the corporate server and posted via cron. prior to this setup
I had pII 450's out at the stores supporting between 3 and 7 users each
with no problem.
backoffice/desktop can access the app via alphacom or even putty.
hth.
From lists@benjamindsmith.com Fri Nov 12 05:10:11 2004
From: lists@benjamindsmith.com (Benjamin Smith)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:10:11 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Giving back (?)
Message-ID: <200411112110.11184.lists@benjamindsmith.com>
I'm a little guy maintaining about 15 servers, and thus see the need to run my
own yum mirror. Having done so, I'd love to share it, and have lots of
bandwidth available, but cannot afford to open it up to the world.
Is there any interest in providing access to yum repositories for a slight fee
a-la Progeny?
After covering expenses, I'd be happy to give the remainder to whitebox or
RedHat, or wherever the credit really should lie ...
-Ben
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Then I realized I am somebody"
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From denis@just-servers.co.uk Fri Nov 12 09:01:17 2004
From: denis@just-servers.co.uk (Denis Croombs)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:01:17 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <200411120901.iAC91Sc24745@sentry.3d-computers.co.uk>
Thanks for that.
But Is there any way of taking the root assword from the shaddow file and
finding out what the password actually is ?
Many thanks
Denis
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From dean.plant@roke.co.uk Fri Nov 12 09:13:17 2004
From: dean.plant@roke.co.uk (Plant, Dean)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:13:17 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
Message-ID: <3F2E01E1D7B04F4EBEC92D3FA324D880273250@rsys004a.roke.co.uk>
Denis Croombs wrote:
> I have found some of my customers systems have had the root password
> changed remotely by an ex-employee, I know I can go do a rescue CD
> boot and change the root password to something I know BUT I have a
> few questions.
>
> 1) What files record when root last loged in and from what IP address
> ? 2) What file record any other activity by the same person ?
> 3) What log files should be kept for handing over to the police ?
> (we have informed them and they are sending someone tomorrow)
>
> 4) What else should I be doing ?
Good Details Here.
>From the CERT website:
CERT(r) Coordination Center
Steps for Recovering from a UNIX or NT System Compromise
http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/root_compromise.html
Good luck.
Dean.
From Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com Fri Nov 12 13:15:30 2004
From: Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com (Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:15:30 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
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John the ripper will do it. Depending on the complexity of the password
it could take several hours, or several minutes.
Make sure you get the word lists enabled as well, it will speed things up
if the password is a dictionary word or variant thereof.
http://www.openwall.com/john/
=========================
Scott Mace
Security Administrator
Travelcenters of America
440-808-4318
mace.scott@tatravelcenters.com
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Thanks for that.
But Is there any way of taking the root assword from the shaddow file and
finding out what the password actually is ?
Many thanks
Denis
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John the ripper will do it. Depending
on the complexity of the password it could take several hours, or several
minutes.
Make sure you get the word lists enabled
as well, it will speed things up if the password is a dictionary word or
variant thereof.
http://www.openwall.com/john/
=========================
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Travelcenters of America
440-808-4318
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But Is there any way of taking the root assword from the shaddow file and
finding out what the password actually is ?
Many thanks
Denis
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From jean.lee@free.fr Fri Nov 12 14:05:03 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:05:03 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH as an FTP server
In-Reply-To: <20041108164052.65672.qmail@web50208.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041108164052.65672.qmail@web50208.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4194C30F.1030503@free.fr>
Hello Brett,
Jail and chrootssh have not the same function. Jail is a general binary
to chroot a user but chrootssh is a patch to apply to OpenSSH.
I have not yet the answer about which is better.
I succeed in creating a chrooted sftp using Jail but not with chrootssh
(I suppose it is because there were the library /etc/lib.so.cache to
copy to chrootdir/etc (to make sftp working) and I only saw it when I
tried Jail. Then I have not the time to test chrootssh anymore)
I have one question for you :
How did you set up the permissions in your chrooted environnement ?
I suppose that the user should be able to write in his home directory
but not in the others so I set root to be the owner to all the
directories with 755 permissions except the home directory and
subfolders which are owned by the user with 700 permissions.
However, I think that it is not good that an executable could be wrotten
in the home directory because a malicious intruder could go out of the
chrooted environnement by writing and executing an suid binary.
What do you think about it ?
Thank you for your answer,
Jean
Brett Moss wrote:
>--- Jean Lee wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hello Brett,
>>
>>Thanks a lot for your answer. It's just what I want.
>>Just a question : Does jail make sshd more
>>vulnerable ?
>>Is it a better solution than to patch Openssh with
>>chrootssh (
>>http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/ )?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jean
>>
>>
>>
>hello,
>i'm not sure i can answer that question. i suggest
>you post it to the two projects mailing lists. i sure
>would be interested in the results of that question.
>i can say though i have used jail (
>http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/ ) for quite
>some time with no problems at all.
>
>good luck,
>brett
>
>
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>
>
From nick-tech@terraworld.net Fri Nov 12 16:28:27 2004
From: nick-tech@terraworld.net (Nick Bright)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:28:27 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and POP3 services
Message-ID: <1100276907.31848.10.camel@neptune.terranet.net>
I'm setting up a mail system using Whitebox EL3, and am noticing the
distinct lack of any IMAP or POP3 packages in the trees. Am I missing
something, or are they really not there?
On that note, has anyone properly packaged Courier-IMAP & Courier-POP3d
for Whitebox?
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From nick-tech@terraworld.net Fri Nov 12 16:31:02 2004
From: nick-tech@terraworld.net (Nick Bright)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:31:02 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
References: <20041111165401.26782.39759.Mailman@library.beau.org>
<200411111415.15146.tony@instaview.com>
Message-ID: <1100277061.31848.12.camel@neptune.terranet.net>
Also, Ximian's Red Carpet software does things like this, you could use
the Open-Carpet variant (http://www.opencarpet.org) to do such tasks, I
think.
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 13:15, Tony wrote:
> This is where I'm coming from:
>
> I have a setup that will be about 500 workstations, and a handfull of servers.
> About 500 or so users as well.
>
> What we need is a way to *centrally* manage the PCs and users, not the
> traditional Unix way of managing them on the workstation.. ( running them as
> dumb X terminals isn't the solution here, due to bandwidth ). That sort of
> 'management' just isn't practical at this level.
>
> By 'manage' the users: central database of logins, and policy rights. LDAP
> makes the most sence here of course. All workstations need to hit the LDAP
> server for authentication, and 'policies'.
>
> Need the ability to create and manage the 'directory' from several locations
> ( this part isn't hard i realize as LDAP can be accessed remotely. )
>
> I'm still messing with kiosk mode for KDE for desktop control, and if that
> does a good enough job ill want to head that direction as well, but that
> would need to also tie back to groups defined in the 'directrory server'.
>
> Manage the desktops: Again, central database control. Need to be able to
> create groups of workstations, so as to install/remove applications with out
> having to touch each workstation manually, ( even remotely ).
>
> I know things such as ssh and webmin can do this remotely, but its still a
> manual, one by one process.
>
> I guess it just boils down to managing the entire enterprise via 'policies',
> from a central location.. not ever having to touch a PC manually unless it
> dies, and having *all* software policy, and login information stored on a
> central directory.
>
> Those of us from a large windows enterprise know what I'm talking about
> when i speak of SMS, GPO and AD.. thats what i want to emulate, as much
> as is possible..
>
> Enterprise monitoring, thats taken care of as there are plenty of 'enterprise'
> monitoring tools..
>
>
>
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
> > From: Dan Geist
> > To: Tony@instaview.com
> > Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
> > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:40 -0500
> >
> > Tony, That sounds like a perfectly good topic! I wish more people would
> > talk about management tools in the open-source community, but that's not
> > to say there's not lots of stuff out there.
> >
> > The question arises... what exactly are your goals? Also, what types of
> > machines are you managing?
> >
> > I worked at a place that had a RH Linux developer core with windows
> > bus-dev folks. A few cleverly-crafted small scripts were all that was
> > needed to maintain the developers hosts (nightly updates, etc).
> >
> > I have some WBEL hosts currently that utilize central authentication
> > sources using PAM_TACPLUS (so they can share user resources with routers
> > and switches, etc..).
> >
> > So... what are you trying to do, exactly?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:41, Tony wrote:
> > > Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for
> > > 'enterprise management' tools?
> > >
> > > Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag.
> > > What is needed is
> > > something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
> > >
> > > Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
> > > 'admins' ) on my own,
> > > what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
> > > preferably GPL or
> > > BSD licensed..
> >
> > --
> > Dan Geist | dan.geist@cox.com | (404)269-6822
> > Network Security Engineer | Telephony/Data Eng | Cox Communications
> >
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From nick-tech@terraworld.net Fri Nov 12 16:36:03 2004
From: nick-tech@terraworld.net (Nick Bright)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:36:03 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] SATA RAID problem!
In-Reply-To: <0411081099.AA1099945806@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
References: <0411081099.AA1099945806@ws3.cimex.com.cu>
Message-ID: <1100277363.31848.14.camel@neptune.terranet.net>
The ICH5R is not supported by Linux. At all. This is not supported
because it isn't actually hardware RAID. It's all done in software
through the driver.
What this boils down to is: use an MD device (i.e. software raid).
On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 14:19, israel.garcia@cimex.com.cu wrote:
> I am running WB3.0 respin 1, my server is an INTEL D865PERL (ICH5 chipset) with
> two HDD 80 GB each, so my instalation recognized 2 SCSI (sda and sdb) drives, I
> have read on the net that I have to install first WB in a PATA hdd, download a
> recent kernel and change the RAID to the new HDD...
>
> My question:
>
> How can I install WB in this computer using RAID with this hard drives?
> What vertion of the kernel support ICH5 SATA RAID?
> What can I do?
>
> regards...
>
> Israel Garcia Alvarez
> Linux Counter User #196178
> Corporacion CIMEX Villa Clara
>
>
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From nick-tech@terraworld.net Fri Nov 12 16:37:44 2004
From: nick-tech@terraworld.net (Nick Bright)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:37:44 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] LSI SATA 150-6
Message-ID: <1100277464.31848.16.camel@neptune.terranet.net>
I'm buying an LSI SATA 150-6 (6 channel sata raid), and was wondering if
anyone had tried using one of these with whitebox? I know it's
supported, but I was wondering what someones results of actually using
it are?
--
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Terraworld, Inc
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From kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com Fri Nov 12 16:48:47 2004
From: kodak@frontierhomemortgage.com (Jason Balicki)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:48:47 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] IMAP and POP3 services
In-Reply-To: <1100276907.31848.10.camel@neptune.terranet.net>
Message-ID: <005e01c4c8d7$7a816240$0501a8c0@darkside>
Nick Bright <> wrote:
> I'm setting up a mail system using Whitebox EL3, and am noticing the
> distinct lack of any IMAP or POP3 packages in the trees. Am I missing
> something, or are they really not there?
>
> On that note, has anyone properly packaged Courier-IMAP &
> Courier-POP3d for Whitebox?
Both ipop3d and imapd are provided by the RPM "imap-2002d-9".
Also, from the Courier web site (http://www.courier-mta.org/):
"Building Courier RPMs
You can build binary Courier RPMs directly from the tarball, using RPM
version 4.0.2 or higher. For example:
rpmbuild -ta courier-version.tar.bz2
Because the RPMs can be built directly from the tarball, binary RPMs will
not be distributed separately"
There's no reason I can think of that this wouldn't work for WBEL.
HTH,
--J(K)
From aly.dharshi@telus.net Fri Nov 12 16:48:51 2004
From: aly.dharshi@telus.net (Aly Dharshi)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:48:51 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] LSI SATA 150-6
In-Reply-To: <1100277464.31848.16.camel@neptune.terranet.net>
References: <1100277464.31848.16.camel@neptune.terranet.net>
Message-ID: <4194E973.6030607@telus.net>
No clue, but do let us know of your results, maybe I can be persuaded to by it :)
Cheers,
Aly.
Nick Bright wrote:
> I'm buying an LSI SATA 150-6 (6 channel sata raid), and was wondering if
> anyone had tried using one of these with whitebox? I know it's
> supported, but I was wondering what someones results of actually using
> it are?
>
>
--
Aly Dharshi
aly.dharshi@telus.net
"A good speech is like a good dress
that's short enough to be interesting
and long enough to cover the subject"
From whitebox@elric.net Fri Nov 12 17:03:36 2004
From: whitebox@elric.net (Brent DiNicola)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:36 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [WBEL-users] Updates..?
Message-ID: <1387.66.219.50.70.1100279016.squirrel@webmail.elric.net>
I mirror my updates with rsync and I haven't seen any updates on various
packages that RH has updated. Am I missing this because of my rsync not
updating or has John not done anything recently? I have bounced off a few
of the mirrors and still get no updates.
Brent
--
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The Whitewolf of Imrryr
http://www.elric.net
Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed here are
from my dog. Any liabilities fall to the dog.
From C Lance Moxley Fri Nov 12 17:42:02 2004
From: C Lance Moxley (C Lance Moxley)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:42:02 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Updates..?
In-Reply-To: <1387.66.219.50.70.1100279016.squirrel@webmail.elric.net>
References: <1387.66.219.50.70.1100279016.squirrel@webmail.elric.net>
Message-ID:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:36 -0600 (CST), Brent DiNicola
wrote:
> I mirror my updates with rsync and I haven't seen any updates on various
> packages that RH has updated. Am I missing this because of my rsync not
> updating or has John not done anything recently? I have bounced off a few
> of the mirrors and still get no updates.
You're not alone. This is starting to be a concern. I'd gladly help
compile the SPRMS if we had a structure in place to push things out to
the mirrors.
--
C Lance Moxley
http://moxley.champaign.il.us:61821/
From jean.lee@free.fr Fri Nov 12 17:47:49 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:47:49 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
Message-ID: <4194F745.2040404@free.fr>
Hello all,
I am using WinSCP to access a remote SSH server. When I want to create a
directory on the remote WBEL box, the default permissions are 755.
Is it possible to modify this to 770? I searched in the manual for
sshd_config but didn't find any help.
Thanks for any answer.
Jean
From lists@ehome.net Fri Nov 12 18:01:30 2004
From: lists@ehome.net (eLists)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:01:30 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Can I force a YUM upgrade/update?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Hello,
I recently setup a Whitebox server with Webmin. While performing the
YUM update to install all new packages/updates my internet connection
apparently got interrupted. As a result the updates did not complete.
Is there a way I can force the update to either start over or complete?
The server is now in a data center (I didn't notice the problem at
first), so being able to do this remotely would be very helpful.
Otherwise a trip down there would be required.
Thanks for any help/pointers on how to fix this.
Dale
From vickir@beau.org Sat Nov 13 02:22:46 2004
From: vickir@beau.org (Vicki Reeves)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:22:46 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Updates..?
In-Reply-To: <1387.66.219.50.70.1100279016.squirrel@webmail.elric.net>
References: <1387.66.219.50.70.1100279016.squirrel@webmail.elric.net>
Message-ID: <1100312566.4130.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 11:03, Brent DiNicola wrote:
> I mirror my updates with rsync and I haven't seen any updates on various
> packages that RH has updated. Am I missing this because of my rsync not
> updating or has John not done anything recently? I have bounced off a few
> of the mirrors and still get no updates.
This has turned out to be a very busy time for us here at the library.
So far there have been no updates that we thought couldn't wait for a
little while. If that changes, we'll switch priorities.
--
Vicki Reeves, Info Tech Dept http://beau.org/~vickir
Beauregard Parish Library http://library.beau.org
205 South Washington Ave, DeRidder, LA 70634 (337)463-6217
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From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Sat Nov 13 08:58:11 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:58:11 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
In-Reply-To: <4194F745.2040404@free.fr>
References: <4194F745.2040404@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4195CCA3.7000901@platypus.bc.ca>
Jean,
Maybe setting the umask for the user would help.
007 ?
- bish.
Jean Lee wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am using WinSCP to access a remote SSH server. When I want to create a
> directory on the remote WBEL box, the default permissions are 755.
>
> Is it possible to modify this to 770? I searched in the manual for
> sshd_config but didn't find any help.
>
> Thanks for any answer.
>
> Jean
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Sat Nov 13 09:04:43 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:04:43 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Updates..?
In-Reply-To:
References: <1387.66.219.50.70.1100279016.squirrel@webmail.elric.net>
Message-ID: <4195CE2B.7030209@platypus.bc.ca>
Sign me up too!
Hmm. Sounds like we could quickly gear ourselves up for a Fedora-like
effort, here. I think we need a BZ and a Wiki, at least, for
coordination, and some kind of test procedure.
Ugh. Then we're into the untested/tested/blessed kind of RPM sets,
promotion, all that. That's a lot of extra time, if Mr Morris and Ms
Reeves agree to such a plan.
Just as long as it prevents a Fork, I'm happy.
- bish
C Lance Moxley wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:36 -0600 (CST), Brent DiNicola
> wrote:
>
>>I mirror my updates with rsync and I haven't seen any updates on various
>>packages that RH has updated. Am I missing this because of my rsync not
>>updating or has John not done anything recently? I have bounced off a few
>>of the mirrors and still get no updates.
>
> You're not alone. This is starting to be a concern. I'd gladly help
> compile the SPRMS if we had a structure in place to push things out to
> the mirrors.
--
From bishop@platypus.bc.ca Sat Nov 13 09:15:55 2004
From: bishop@platypus.bc.ca (bishop)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:15:55 -0800
Subject: openssh 3.9-1 + chroot - was Re: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall an
rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <4192295C.7080506@free.fr>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <4190D602.90708@swbell.net> <4191014C.4080801@free.fr> <419109BD.3040806@free.fr> <419111B3.3000909@platypus.bc.ca> <4192295C.7080506@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4195D0CB.7020507@platypus.bc.ca>
Jean,
Do you do the setup on the sftp-server shell? I thought that one does
it on the user's homedir:
moduser -d /home/bishop/./
No?
If 'path-to-chroot' is, for example, /var/chroot/, then did you mkdir -p
/var/chroot/usr/kerberos/lib and cp -a /usr/kerberos/lib/{some,libs} to
/var/chroot/usr/kerberos/lib ? I think that is what you have to do.
Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with that software; I just
know how to package it. :-) Like I said, I use scponly(.sf.net) for my
login shells, and it provides just enough security.
- bish
Jean Lee wrote:
> Hi bishop,
>
> OK I tried your rpms. The installation is OK and I succeed to create a
> jail which works for ssh.
> I follow the manual which is available here :
>
> http://www.netadmintools.com/art294.html
>
> The problem is that it doesn't work with sftp-server.
>
>
> During the creation of the chroot environnement, I made a copy of
> /usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server to
> "path-to-chroot"/./usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server
> then :
> cd "path-to-chroot"/./usr/libexec/openssh/
> ldd sftp-server
>
> The output gives some libraries which I copied into the correct folders.
>
> When I tried : sftp jean@ServeurLinux
> I am asked for a password and then I have an error saying me that a
> library related to kerberos is not found.
> I verified and this library is at the place which is telled by ldd (+the
> "path-to-chroot")......
>
> It is related to this kerberos library because I tried to supress
> libz.so.1 (which is also needed by sftp-server) and the error message
> was then that it didn't find libz.so.1. I suppose so than when this
> library is well placed, sftp-server can find it.
>
> Do you have any idea why sftp-server doesn't find this kerberos library ?
>
> Thank you for your support.
>
> Jean
>
> bishop wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey Jean,
>>
>> The SRPM (Source RPM) contains the necessary code to build RPMs. It's
>> really just a cpio of the tar.gz, some diffs and a build script (.spec).
>>
>> Building the RPMs is done with
>> rpm -i openssh.src.rpm
>> rpmbuild -ba openssh.spec
>>
>> Here's the current patch for the spec file to integrate the chroot diff:
>>
>>> --- /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec~ 2004-11-09
>>> 03:35:49.000000000 -0800
>>> +++ /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec 2004-11-09 10:15:59.000000000
>>> -0800
>>> @@ -86,7 +86,7 @@
>>> %if %{rescue}
>>> Release: %{rel}rescue
>>> %else
>>> -Release: %{rel}
>>> +Release: %{rel}%{?_with_chroot:chroot}
>>> %endif
>>> URL: http://www.openssh.com/portable.html
>>> Source0:
>>> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-%{version}.tar.gz
>>>
>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
>>> Patch4: openssh-3.9p1-skip-initial.patch
>>> Patch11:
>>> http://www.sxw.org.uk/computing/patches/openssh-3.6.1p2-gssapi-20030430.diff
>>>
>>> Patch12: openssh-selinux.patch
>>> +Patch15:
>>> http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/download/osshChroot-3.6.1.diff
>>> License: BSD
>>> Group: Applications/Internet
>>> BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-buildroot
>>> @@ -150,6 +150,7 @@
>>> %if ! %{build6x}
>>> Requires: /etc/pam.d/system-auth
>>> %endif
>>> +%{?_with_chroot:Provides: ssh-server-chroot}
>>>
>>> %package askpass
>>> Summary: A passphrase dialog for OpenSSH and X.
>>> @@ -226,6 +227,10 @@
>>> %patch12 -p1 -b .selinux
>>> %endif
>>>
>>> +%if %{?_with_chroot:1}%{?!_with_chroot:0}%{?commentish:These
>>> constructs suck}
>>> +%patch15 -p1 -b .chroot
>>> +%endif
>>> +
>>> %build
>>> CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS"; export CFLAGS
>>> %if %{rescue}
>>
>>
>>
>> (yes, I hate line 89 too)
>>
>> Okay, I'm in my meeting now, so I can't test/examine the RPMs at all,
>> but if you want to test something, grab these:
>>
>>> Wrote:
>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.src.rpm
>>>
>>> Wrote:
>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>
>>> Wrote:
>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-clients-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>
>>> Wrote:
>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-server-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>
>>> Wrote:
>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>
>>> Wrote:
>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They may work. I have them here (but get the right ones!) :
>>
>> http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/
>> http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/
>>
>> I'll examine the RPM later today, as I mentioned.
>>
>> To examine all the changes I've made to the SRPMS:
>> install one SRPM
>> move the dirname away (`mv RPM{,1}`)
>> install the other SRPM
>> compare them:
>> diff -uNr --exclude-from=openssh3.*gz RPM{1,}
>>
>> I can send these diffs to you if you are interested.
>>
>> - bish
>>
>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I really made something wrong.
>>>
>>> I was on the openssh website and didn't find the tar.gz files for
>>> openssh-client, openssh-server, openssh-askpass and
>>> openssh-askpass-gnome. :) sorry, I'm a newbie.
>>> Bishop, how did you do to produce these files ? Is it something with
>>> this srpms file?
>>> If the rpm files are produced by the srpms one. How can I apply a
>>> patch to the tar.gz file and then create the srpms file from this
>>> patched tar.gz file and then finally obtain my rpm files?
>>>
>>> What do I have installed (Installation explained in my previous mail)?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your answers because I think that I'm a bit lost.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank to all of you for your great help.
>>>> This mail is just to give a back and keep a trace,
>>>>
>>>> I have created an rpm of the patched openssh
>>>> (openssh-3.9p1-chroot.tar.gz) with the checkinstall binary. I called
>>>> it openssh-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm and checkinstall automatically installed
>>>> it.
>>>> I didn't do a 'yum remove openssh-3.6.1p2' because I didn't want to
>>>> brake some dependencies.
>>>>
>>>> When I type 'rpm -q openssh', I have a good return : openssh-3.9p1-1
>>>> but if I try to erase it 'rpm -e openssh', I have the following
>>>> return :
>>>>
>>>> error: Failed dependencies :
>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>> openssh-askpass-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>> openssh-client-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>> openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>>
>>>> Another thing : If I type 'whereis sshd', the return is :
>>>> /usr/sbin/sshd and /usr/local/sbin/sshd .
>>>> It doesn't seem to be very good..
>>>>
>>>> I will try now to upgrade these 4 tools with standard openssh-3.9p1
>>>> and see what will come.....
>>>>
>>>> Jean
>>>>
>>>> Randy Kelsoe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know
>>>>>> how to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>>>>>> installed as an rpm package and then install openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>>>>> which is a tarball (it is a patched version of Openssh-3.9p1 with
>>>>>> added chroot functionnality).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As I suggested in a previous thread of yours, get the checkinstall
>>>>> package and install it. Then you can untar the openssh-3.9p1-chroot
>>>>> package, do your './configure', then 'make' and then instead of
>>>>> doing your normal 'make install', run 'checkinstall' which will
>>>>> create and install an RPM package for you. That way, if you have
>>>>> problems with the new package, you can remove it with the 'rpm -e'
>>>>> command. When you need to upgrade the package, it will be a lot
>>>>> easier to let rpm do the upgrade and keep track of the files.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>>>>>> rpm -e openssh
>>>>>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>>>>>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related
>>>>>> to openssh...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can
>>>>>> firstly uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one with
>>>>>> netdump is probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to
>>>>>> uninstall openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to
>>>>>> netdump-server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every package
>>>>>> which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is there
>>>>>> another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In your case, I would recommend trying the checkinstall method
>>>>> above first. If you really want to get rid of the dependencies, you
>>>>> can rpm -e more than one package at a time:
>>>>>
>>>>> rpm -e openssh openssh-server openssh-client netdump
>>>>>
>>>>> yum is also handy for this:
>>>>>
>>>>> yum remove packagename
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
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From jjma100@yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 13 11:38:44 2004
From: jjma100@yahoo.co.uk (Jon)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:38:44 -0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Raid software
References: <20041112180001.19458.61284.Mailman@library.beau.org>
Message-ID: <007f01c4c975$555866f0$3d3ea851@laptop>
Hello
I am running WB 3.0 respin 1 in a raid 5 configuration using an onboard
adaptec raid 2005s card. The software doesn;t have drivers for the latest
RHEN versions so I was wondering if someone could suggest alternative raid
monitor software monitors?
Thanks in advance.
Jon
From nozy@mozysswamp.org Mon Nov 15 00:07:31 2004
From: nozy@mozysswamp.org (Michael Falzon)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:07:31 +1100
Subject: [WBEL-users] ROOTKIT checking software
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
References: <000801c4c7dd$a1a213b0$4100a8c0@Laptop>
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Hi Denis
this maybe to late but dags network has a good root kit tester
http://dag.wieers.com/packages/
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 21:53, Denis Croombs wrote:
> I have just taken over admin for approx 20 Linux systems (RH9.0) and need to
> check that they have not been rootkit'd (for my own piece of mind) anybody
> had experience of good toolkits for finding out of a system has been
> compromised ?
>
> That is before I prepare a plan to change them to Whitebox over the coming
> weeks/months.
>
> Thanks
>
> Denis
>
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See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
Michael Falzon (RHCT)
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Hi Denis
this maybe to late but dags network has a good root kit tester
I have just taken over admin for approx 20 Linux systems (RH9.0) and need to
check that they have not been rootkit'd (for my own piece of mind) anybody
had experience of good toolkits for finding out of a system has been
compromised ?
That is before I prepare a plan to change them to Whitebox over the coming
weeks/months.
Thanks
Denis
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See BUG. "That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it.
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Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
http://mozysswamp.org
Registered LFS User #406
Registered Linux User #204397
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From jean.lee@free.fr Mon Nov 15 08:55:17 2004
From: jean.lee@free.fr (Jean Lee)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:55:17 +0100
Subject: openssh 3.9-1 + chroot - was Re: [WBEL-users] How to uninstall
an rpm package which has dependencies?
In-Reply-To: <4195D0CB.7020507@platypus.bc.ca>
References: <41908458.2020606@free.fr> <4190D602.90708@swbell.net> <4191014C.4080801@free.fr> <419109BD.3040806@free.fr> <419111B3.3000909@platypus.bc.ca> <4192295C.7080506@free.fr> <4195D0CB.7020507@platypus.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <41986EF5.6090808@free.fr>
Hi bishop,
Thank you for your answer. It was not the setup of the home directory
because ssh ( which works with bash) works fine. It was only sftp which
had a problem to find a library.
As I didn't find the answer, I tried with Jail which is a binary that
chroots a user during the login (and is not ssh dependant). I had the
same problem. ssh worked fine but sftp didn't want to start.
To import a binary in a chrooted environnement, we have to copy the
binary then execute ldd to this binary to find the correct libraries to
import.
Well, for sftp, I have to import the sftp-server binary then the
associated libraries and I'm sure that I've done it correctly with your
Openssh version and Jail.
The problem is that we need to import another library which is
/etc/ld.so.cache and which is not returned by the ldd function. I found
it on the Jail mailing list. I don't know what this library provides but
now, it works fine with Jail. I didn't have the time to test this
solution with your Openssh version but I'm quite sure that this was the
same problem and that it should work with this library
(/etc/ld.so.cache). If I have the time, I will try soon.
Thanks a lot for all your help. It was really a good job and without
you, I wouldn't have succeed so fast. I have another question (if you
have the time) for my experience :
How did you do to start from the official Openssh tarball
(Openssh-3.9p1.tar.gz) and the chroot patch (osshChroot-3.9p1.diff) to
recreate the patched srpms (Openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.src.rpm) which can
give the patched rpms? You made it so fast..... It is very interesting :
Can you give me the general steps that you followed ? I would like to be
able to do it by myself.
Thank you one more time.
Jean
bishop wrote:
> Jean,
>
> Do you do the setup on the sftp-server shell? I thought that one does
> it on the user's homedir:
>
> moduser -d /home/bishop/./
>
> No?
>
> If 'path-to-chroot' is, for example, /var/chroot/, then did you mkdir
> -p /var/chroot/usr/kerberos/lib and cp -a
> /usr/kerberos/lib/{some,libs} to /var/chroot/usr/kerberos/lib ? I
> think that is what you have to do.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with that software; I just
> know how to package it. :-) Like I said, I use scponly(.sf.net) for
> my login shells, and it provides just enough security.
>
> - bish
>
> Jean Lee wrote:
>
>> Hi bishop,
>>
>> OK I tried your rpms. The installation is OK and I succeed to create
>> a jail which works for ssh.
>> I follow the manual which is available here :
>>
>> http://www.netadmintools.com/art294.html
>>
>> The problem is that it doesn't work with sftp-server.
>>
>>
>> During the creation of the chroot environnement, I made a copy of
>> /usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server to
>> "path-to-chroot"/./usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server
>> then :
>> cd "path-to-chroot"/./usr/libexec/openssh/
>> ldd sftp-server
>>
>> The output gives some libraries which I copied into the correct folders.
>>
>> When I tried : sftp jean@ServeurLinux
>> I am asked for a password and then I have an error saying me that a
>> library related to kerberos is not found.
>> I verified and this library is at the place which is telled by ldd
>> (+the "path-to-chroot")......
>>
>> It is related to this kerberos library because I tried to supress
>> libz.so.1 (which is also needed by sftp-server) and the error message
>> was then that it didn't find libz.so.1. I suppose so than when this
>> library is well placed, sftp-server can find it.
>>
>> Do you have any idea why sftp-server doesn't find this kerberos
>> library ?
>>
>> Thank you for your support.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> bishop wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Jean,
>>>
>>> The SRPM (Source RPM) contains the necessary code to build RPMs.
>>> It's really just a cpio of the tar.gz, some diffs and a build script
>>> (.spec).
>>>
>>> Building the RPMs is done with
>>> rpm -i openssh.src.rpm
>>> rpmbuild -ba openssh.spec
>>>
>>> Here's the current patch for the spec file to integrate the chroot
>>> diff:
>>>
>>>> --- /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec~ 2004-11-09
>>>> 03:35:49.000000000 -0800
>>>> +++ /home/bishop/RPM/SPECS/openssh.spec 2004-11-09
>>>> 10:15:59.000000000 -0800
>>>> @@ -86,7 +86,7 @@
>>>> %if %{rescue}
>>>> Release: %{rel}rescue
>>>> %else
>>>> -Release: %{rel}
>>>> +Release: %{rel}%{?_with_chroot:chroot}
>>>> %endif
>>>> URL: http://www.openssh.com/portable.html
>>>> Source0:
>>>> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-%{version}.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
>>>> Patch4: openssh-3.9p1-skip-initial.patch
>>>> Patch11:
>>>> http://www.sxw.org.uk/computing/patches/openssh-3.6.1p2-gssapi-20030430.diff
>>>>
>>>> Patch12: openssh-selinux.patch
>>>> +Patch15:
>>>> http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/download/osshChroot-3.6.1.diff
>>>> License: BSD
>>>> Group: Applications/Internet
>>>> BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-buildroot
>>>> @@ -150,6 +150,7 @@
>>>> %if ! %{build6x}
>>>> Requires: /etc/pam.d/system-auth
>>>> %endif
>>>> +%{?_with_chroot:Provides: ssh-server-chroot}
>>>>
>>>> %package askpass
>>>> Summary: A passphrase dialog for OpenSSH and X.
>>>> @@ -226,6 +227,10 @@
>>>> %patch12 -p1 -b .selinux
>>>> %endif
>>>>
>>>> +%if %{?_with_chroot:1}%{?!_with_chroot:0}%{?commentish:These
>>>> constructs suck}
>>>> +%patch15 -p1 -b .chroot
>>>> +%endif
>>>> +
>>>> %build
>>>> CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS"; export CFLAGS
>>>> %if %{rescue}
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (yes, I hate line 89 too)
>>>
>>> Okay, I'm in my meeting now, so I can't test/examine the RPMs at
>>> all, but if you want to test something, grab these:
>>>
>>>> Wrote:
>>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.src.rpm
>>>>
>>>> Wrote:
>>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>>
>>>> Wrote:
>>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-clients-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>>
>>>> Wrote:
>>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-server-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>>
>>>> Wrote:
>>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>>
>>>> Wrote:
>>>> /home/bishop/public_html/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-1chroot.i386.rpm
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They may work. I have them here (but get the right ones!) :
>>>
>>> http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/RPMS.extras/
>>> http://apt.platypus.bc.ca/~bis hop/apt/i386/wb30/SRPMS.extras/
>>>
>>> I'll examine the RPM later today, as I mentioned.
>>>
>>> To examine all the changes I've made to the SRPMS:
>>> install one SRPM
>>> move the dirname away (`mv RPM{,1}`)
>>> install the other SRPM
>>> compare them:
>>> diff -uNr --exclude-from=openssh3.*gz RPM{1,}
>>>
>>> I can send these diffs to you if you are interested.
>>>
>>> - bish
>>>
>>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I really made something wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I was on the openssh website and didn't find the tar.gz files for
>>>> openssh-client, openssh-server, openssh-askpass and
>>>> openssh-askpass-gnome. :) sorry, I'm a newbie.
>>>> Bishop, how did you do to produce these files ? Is it something
>>>> with this srpms file?
>>>> If the rpm files are produced by the srpms one. How can I apply a
>>>> patch to the tar.gz file and then create the srpms file from this
>>>> patched tar.gz file and then finally obtain my rpm files?
>>>>
>>>> What do I have installed (Installation explained in my previous
>>>> mail)?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your answers because I think that I'm a bit lost.
>>>>
>>>> Jean
>>>>
>>>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank to all of you for your great help.
>>>>> This mail is just to give a back and keep a trace,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have created an rpm of the patched openssh
>>>>> (openssh-3.9p1-chroot.tar.gz) with the checkinstall binary. I
>>>>> called it openssh-3.9p1-1.i386.rpm and checkinstall automatically
>>>>> installed it.
>>>>> I didn't do a 'yum remove openssh-3.6.1p2' because I didn't want
>>>>> to brake some dependencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I type 'rpm -q openssh', I have a good return : openssh-3.9p1-1
>>>>> but if I try to erase it 'rpm -e openssh', I have the following
>>>>> return :
>>>>>
>>>>> error: Failed dependencies :
>>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>>> openssh-askpass-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>>> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>>> openssh-client-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>>> openssh = 3.6.1p2-33.30.1 is needed by (installed)
>>>>> openssh-server-3.6.1p2-33.30.1
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thing : If I type 'whereis sshd', the return is :
>>>>> /usr/sbin/sshd and /usr/local/sbin/sshd .
>>>>> It doesn't seem to be very good..
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try now to upgrade these 4 tools with standard
>>>>> openssh-3.9p1 and see what will come.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy Kelsoe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean Lee wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that what I want is not so hard but I really don't know
>>>>>>> how to do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My problem is that I want to unintsall openssh-3.6.1p2 which is
>>>>>>> installed as an rpm package and then install
>>>>>>> openssh-3.9p1-chroot which is a tarball (it is a patched version
>>>>>>> of Openssh-3.9p1 with added chroot functionnality).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I suggested in a previous thread of yours, get the
>>>>>> checkinstall package and install it. Then you can untar the
>>>>>> openssh-3.9p1-chroot package, do your './configure', then 'make'
>>>>>> and then instead of doing your normal 'make install', run
>>>>>> 'checkinstall' which will create and install an RPM package for
>>>>>> you. That way, if you have problems with the new package, you can
>>>>>> remove it with the 'rpm -e' command. When you need to upgrade the
>>>>>> package, it will be a lot easier to let rpm do the upgrade and
>>>>>> keep track of the files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I tried first to uninstall openssh-3.6.1p2 with :
>>>>>>> rpm -e openssh
>>>>>>> and this command failed due to dependencies to other packages :
>>>>>>> openssh-server, openssh-client, netdump and a few others related
>>>>>>> to openssh...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure that I am doing something wrong. Perhaps that I can
>>>>>>> firstly uninstall the packages related to openssh but the one
>>>>>>> with netdump is probably not recommended.. Moreover, I tried to
>>>>>>> uninstall openssh-server and it failed due to a dependency to
>>>>>>> netdump-server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the right way? Do I have really to uninstall every
>>>>>>> package which has a dependency before uninstalling openssh or is
>>>>>>> there another way which ensure that nothing will be broken?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In your case, I would recommend trying the checkinstall method
>>>>>> above first. If you really want to get rid of the dependencies,
>>>>>> you can rpm -e more than one package at a time:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rpm -e openssh openssh-server openssh-client netdump
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yum is also handy for this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yum remove packagename
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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From Ian Harper Mon Nov 15 11:26:00 2004
From: Ian Harper (Ian Harper)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:26:00 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] Whitebox on Dell Inspiron 5000e
Message-ID:
When I try to instll it it starts up but somewhere around the point of
running /sbin/loader I get a kernel panic and it crashes. has anyone
any ideas/things I could try ?
Thanks
Ian
From dpandori@nycap.rr.com Mon Nov 15 12:40:40 2004
From: dpandori@nycap.rr.com (Don Pandori)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:40:40 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Sun's LDAP server on WBEL
Message-ID: <20041115123841.M35525@ltionline.com>
Hi,
Has anyone had any luck or tried to get Sun's LDAP server to run on WBEL?
Thanks.
Don
From Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com Mon Nov 15 14:40:26 2004
From: Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com (Vincent.Raffensberger@dtn.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:40:26 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Raid software
In-Reply-To: <007f01c4c975$555866f0$3d3ea851@laptop>
Message-ID:
Did you try "dptapps-static-3.1.24-1.i386.rpm" from Adaptec yet?
"Jon"
Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
11/13/2004 05:38 AM
To
cc
Subject
[WBEL-users] Raid software
Hello
I am running WB 3.0 respin 1 in a raid 5 configuration using an onboard
adaptec raid 2005s card. The software doesn;t have drivers for the latest
RHEN versions so I was wondering if someone could suggest alternative raid
monitor software monitors?
Thanks in advance.
Jon
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From Benjamin J. Weiss"
Howdy, y'all! :)
I'm trying to write a script that can be run on new WBEL installations
that will turn the box into an email server with anti-virus, spam, TLS,
etc. Anyway, I'm using sed to change the configuration files, and I'm
running into a problem. (Note that this is the first time I've used sed
for anything).
I'm trying to use sed to append Dag Wieer's repo to the /etc/yum.conf
file. Everything works great except the final expression. The two before
it work fine, where I'm using single quotes for the append command.
However, I want to use a shell variable in the final expressin, so I'm
using double quotes. I've read the sed chapter in "Linux in a Nutshell"
and googled and read other sites, but I can't seem to figure this one out.
The relevant parts of the script are as follows:
--------------
YUM_BASE=http://cassandra/whitebox_mirror/\$releasever/en/os/\$basearch/
YUM_UPDATES=http://cassandra/whitebox_mirror/\$releasever/en/updates/
YUM_DAG=http://cassandra/whitebox_mirror/dag/
# Set up Yum to hit a local repository. I'm including Dag Wieer's
# repo becuase he maintains packages that otherwise we'd have to compile
# and maintain ourselves.
mv /etc/yum.conf /etc/yum.conf.000
sed -e '/http:/s/\(.*\)/#\1/' \
-e '/ftp:/s/\(.*\)/#\1/' \
-e "/Base/abaseurl=$YUM_BASE" \
-e "/Updates/abaseurl=$YUM_UPDATES" \
-e '$a\[dag]' \
-e '$a\name=Dag Wieers Repo' \
-e "$a\baseurl=$YUM_DAG" \
/etc/yum.conf.000 > /etc/yum.conf
--------------
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks!
Ben
From kbohling@birddog.com Mon Nov 15 16:43:22 2004
From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby C. Bohling)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:43:22 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Need some help with sed
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20041115164320.GF14193@hawk.birddog.com>
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 10:35:24AM -0600, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> Howdy, y'all! :)
>
> -e "$a\baseurl=$YUM_DAG" \
My guess is that the shell is attempting to expand "$a" as a
variable. You need to do something like "\$a\baseurl=$YUM_DAG".
Kirby
From Benjamin J. Weiss"
Message-ID:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Kirby C. Bohling wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 10:35:24AM -0600, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> > Howdy, y'all! :)
> >
>
> > -e "$a\baseurl=$YUM_DAG" \
>
> My guess is that the shell is attempting to expand "$a" as a
> variable. You need to do something like "\$a\baseurl=$YUM_DAG".
>
> Kirby
Oh, brother. Yep, that was it! Jeez, I hate it when I miss something
simple like that. Thanks!
When I'm done with thing (hopefully this weekend, so that I can install my
new server at home) I'll make it available. I think it should help those
who are just trying to set up a server without spending weeks learning all
of the in's and out's.
Thanks again!
Ben
From gmills@rdinstruments.com Mon Nov 15 18:01:05 2004
From: gmills@rdinstruments.com (Grant Mills)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:01:05 -0800
Subject: FW: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
Message-ID:
All,
Apologies, I forgot to hit the reply to all, when I sent this
out.
===============================================================
Grant Mills
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Mills
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:31 AM
> To: 'Jean Lee'
> Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
>
>
> Jean,
> That's done in WinSCP. At the login screen, select
> Preferences from the tree. Then hit the Preferences Button.
> Then select Transfer from the new tree. There is an Upload
> Options Group box that will allow you to set the permissions.
>
> ===============================================================
> Grant Mills
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
> > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Jean Lee
> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:48 AM
> > To: whitebox
> > Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am using WinSCP to access a remote SSH server. When I want
> > to create a
> > directory on the remote WBEL box, the default permissions are 755.
> >
> > Is it possible to modify this to 770? I searched in the manual for
> > sshd_config but didn't find any help.
> >
> > Thanks for any answer.
> >
> > Jean
> > _______________________________________________
> > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
> >
>
From lowen@pari.edu Mon Nov 15 19:02:26 2004
From: lowen@pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:02:26 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Updates..?
In-Reply-To: <4195CE2B.7030209@platypus.bc.ca>
References: <1387.66.219.50.70.1100279016.squirrel@webmail.elric.net> <4195CE2B.7030209@platypus.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <200411151402.26851.lowen@pari.edu>
On Saturday 13 November 2004 04:04, bishop wrote:
> Hmm. Sounds like we could quickly gear ourselves up for a Fedora-like
> effort, here. I think we need a BZ and a Wiki, at least, for
> coordination, and some kind of test procedure.
Understand that John Morris did this primarily to benefit the library. He
released it out of good will. He has made it fairly clear in times past that
he intends to maintain it *for the library* first and foremost, and that the
results will continue to be publicly available. But, no, this is not a team
effort, really. Search the archives of this list to see more. If you can't
deal with that, well, there are other RHEL3 from-source-clones out there,
like FermiLab's Scientific Linux or cAos' CentOS. Or Tao, or.... well,
there's a bunch. Or do it yourself and put up an RHEL3 compatible repository
like Dag does.
Since other projects are handling those logistics already, and since John
hasn't been in the past willing to do this (which is his right), then you can
either join another project or just wait on John. Of course, John may decide
to change his mind.
But, like I said, understand that WhiteBox Linux is not a community project;
it is the fruits of a library's internal IT project released to the public,
which is a completely different animal.
And the way John is doing things works for me at the moment, for at least some
servers I run. I certainly would rather wait for a 'blessed' RPM from
beau.org than use a third-party's RPM regardless of how quickly it is
released. John has done remarkably well in keeping up with updates. And,
well, the fact of the matter is that if he had fallen too far behind I would
have put something else on those servers by now.
Push comes to shove I am capable of downloading the RHEL3 source RPMs and
rebuilding them myself if need be.
--
Lamar Owen
Director of Information Technology
Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive
Rosman, NC 28772
(828)862-5554
www.pari.edu
From gmills@rdinstruments.com Mon Nov 15 19:10:45 2004
From: gmills@rdinstruments.com (Grant Mills)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:10:45 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
Message-ID:
All,
Scratch that. It didn't work. I should have tested that before
shooting my mouth off.
The WinSCP Website seemed to concur with my statements though.
===============================================================
Grant Mills
> -----Original Message-----
> From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
> [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Grant Mills
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:01 AM
> To: whitebox-users@beau.org
> Subject: FW: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
>
>
> All,
> Apologies, I forgot to hit the reply to all, when I sent this
> out.
>
> ===============================================================
> Grant Mills
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Grant Mills
> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:31 AM
> > To: 'Jean Lee'
> > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
> >
> >
> > Jean,
> > That's done in WinSCP. At the login screen, select
> > Preferences from the tree. Then hit the Preferences Button.
> > Then select Transfer from the new tree. There is an Upload
> > Options Group box that will allow you to set the permissions.
> >
> > ===============================================================
> > Grant Mills
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
> > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Jean Lee
> > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:48 AM
> > > To: whitebox
> > > Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I am using WinSCP to access a remote SSH server. When I want
> > > to create a
> > > directory on the remote WBEL box, the default permissions are 755.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to modify this to 770? I searched in the
> manual for
> > > sshd_config but didn't find any help.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any answer.
> > >
> > > Jean
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
> > >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
From weeboy@conorwynne.com Mon Nov 15 19:58:42 2004
From: weeboy@conorwynne.com (Conor Wynne)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:58:42 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <1100548722.8016.3.camel@snowwhite.conorwynne.com>
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On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 19:10, Grant Mills wrote:
> All,
> Scratch that. It didn't work. I should have tested that before
> shooting my mouth off.
> The WinSCP Website seemed to concur with my statements though.
The solution is to set the umask in the users home directory=20
-> .bashrc for example. Or globally in /etc/profile
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Grant Mills
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org=20
> > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Grant Mills
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:01 AM
> > To: whitebox-users@beau.org
> > Subject: FW: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
> >=20
> >=20
> > All,
> > Apologies, I forgot to hit the reply to all, when I sent this
> > out.
> >=20
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > Grant Mills
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Grant Mills=20
> > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:31 AM
> > > To: 'Jean Lee'
> > > Subject: RE: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Jean,
> > > That's done in WinSCP. At the login screen, select=20
> > > Preferences from the tree. Then hit the Preferences Button. =20
> > > Then select Transfer from the new tree. There is an Upload=20
> > > Options Group box that will allow you to set the permissions.
> > >=20
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > Grant Mills
> > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org=20
> > > > [mailto:whitebox-users-admin@beau.org] On Behalf Of Jean Lee
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:48 AM
> > > > To: whitebox
> > > > Subject: [WBEL-users] SSH default permissions
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >=20
> > > > I am using WinSCP to access a remote SSH server. When I want=20
> > > > to create a=20
> > > > directory on the remote WBEL box, the default permissions are 755.
> > > >=20
> > > > Is it possible to modify this to 770? I searched in the=20
> > manual for=20
> > > > sshd_config but didn't find any help.
> > > >=20
> > > > Thanks for any answer.
> > > >=20
> > > > Jean
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > > > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > > > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> > Whitebox-users mailing list
> > Whitebox-users@beau.org
> > http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
> >=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
--=20
Conor Wynne
Dublin,
Irlande.
GPG Key: http://www.conorwynne.com/gpg-key
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From rcortes@placevendome.cl Mon Nov 15 20:06:12 2004
From: rcortes@placevendome.cl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rodrigo_Cort=E9s?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:06:12 -0300
Subject: [WBEL-users] reboot on boot with smp kernel
Message-ID: <942FE8577B22784B835AB9D8AB5BAA0673F672@deimos.placevendome.cl>
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Hi, I have one problem.
=20
=20
First install x86_64 version with default kernel 2.4.21-15 and detect =
four CPU. I have one Dell 1850 with 2 Xeon 2.8. Upgrade kernel to =
2.4.21-20 and only detect one cpu =BF?=BF?
=20
Next install kernel smp, reboot, choice.. boot.....error loading =
scsi_mod, same for 2.4.21-15 smp.
=20
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Some idea ??
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Rodrigo Cortes.
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Hi, I have one problem.
First install x86_64 version with default kernel =
2.4.21-15
and detect four CPU. I have one Dell 1850 with 2 Xeon 2.8. Upgrade =
kernel to
2.4.21-20 and only detect one cpu =BF?=BF?
Next install kernel smp, reboot, choice.. =
boot…..error
loading scsi_mod, same for 2.4.21-15 smp.
I was just trying to do some updates =
with "yum=20
update" and I was shocked to see that apparently every single mirror =
listed in=20
the default yum.conf file is no longer carrying any header files. =
It seems=20
like only the whiteboxlinux.org site still has updates =
available. =20
Anyone know what is going on?
Aff
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From aff@prezidential.com Wed Nov 17 02:38:13 2004
From: aff@prezidential.com (Aff)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:38:13 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Not all yum mirrors down...
Message-ID: <000a01c4cc4e$7c7033e0$5f01a8c0@salwin2k>
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I stand corrected. Further testing shows that ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at is =
still up...
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I stand corrected. Further =
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From lists@benjamindsmith.com Wed Nov 17 02:40:52 2004
From: lists@benjamindsmith.com (Benjamin Smith)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:40:52 -0800
Subject: [WBEL-users] Commercial yum mirror?
Message-ID: <200411161840.52940.lists@benjamindsmith.com>
I'd posted a while back to see if there was any interest in commercial mirror
support, and got a few responses. The goal is to provide a reliable
commercial mirror for whitebox, and potentially, other distros, as well as
provide some financial support to the distros being mirrored.
Towards this end, I started with an rsync of the official rpm repository
yesterday, only to run into the same problems as everybody else here.
What other distros seem to have the hardest time coming up with decent
repositories? Is there anybody else out there providing this type of service
today?
-Ben
--
"The best way to predict the future is to invent it."
- XEROX PARC slogan, circa 1978
From jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk Wed Nov 17 10:46:19 2004
From: jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Jake Grimmett)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:46:19 +0000
Subject: [WBEL-users] problem with rsync script
In-Reply-To: <20041116180001.13290.69991.Mailman@library.beau.org>
References: <20041116180001.13290.69991.Mailman@library.beau.org>
Message-ID: <200411171046.19584.jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk>
"Kirby C. Bohling" wrote:
> I'd say something is fairly systemically wrong at the source
> given how many of them have problems.
>
> Thanks,
> Kirby
Looks like that to me too - I'm sure John and Vicki will get things back up
soon ;)
In the meantime, I have my own mirror of
whiteboxlinux.org/pub/3.0/en/updates/* (minus SRPMS, dated 10-Oct-2004), and
am happy to upload this to anyone. Unfortunately I can't let you 'in' as it's
behind a firewall that I have no administrative rights to :(
BTW, what happened John? did you loose a disk or something?
keep up the good work,
ta ta
Jake
--
Dr J. Grimmett
Computer Systems Manager
Division of Molecular Structure
National Institute for Medical Research
The Ridgeway
Mill Hill
London, NW7 1AA
Tel: 0208 816 2028
Fax: 0208 906 4477
From mailing-lists@hughesjr.com Wed Nov 17 12:25:01 2004
From: mailing-lists@hughesjr.com (Johnny Hughes)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:25:01 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] problem with rsync script
In-Reply-To: <200411171046.19584.jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk>
References: <20041116180001.13290.69991.Mailman@library.beau.org>
<200411171046.19584.jake.grimmett@nimr.mrc.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1100694301.16792.70.camel@Myth.home.local>
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 10:46 +0000, Jake Grimmett wrote:
>
> Looks like that to me too - I'm sure John and Vicki will get things back up
> soon ;)
>
> In the meantime, I have my own mirror of
> whiteboxlinux.org/pub/3.0/en/updates/* (minus SRPMS, dated 10-Oct-2004), and
> am happy to upload this to anyone. Unfortunately I can't let you 'in' as it's
> behind a firewall that I have no administrative rights to :(
>
> BTW, what happened John? did you loose a disk or something?
I don't know what happened, but it could be as simple as NCSU (or
whitebox main server) accidentally removing the update directory ...
since lots of the other sites rsync with NCSU (it is the only real
public rsync mirror listed), it probably propagated from there...
From rk@raimokoski.com Wed Nov 17 13:01:18 2004
From: rk@raimokoski.com (Raimo Koski)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:01:18 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [WBEL-users] GFS on WBEL
In-Reply-To: <1100635509.15594.21.camel@cs-lintop01.salk.edu>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Thomas Jackson wrote:
> Curiosity has gotten the better of me and I've setup a test cluster to
> play around with GFS. Has anyone else tried the SRPMs over at
>
> http://www.hughesjr.com/component/option,com_docman/task,view_category/Itemid,34/subcat,1/catid,15/limitstart,0/limit,50/
>
> I've done a little spec file editing to get it to like the current
> kernel 2.4.21-20.EL but am unable to get the build to complete.
>
> Build fails...
Why not grab binary packages from Lineox? The latest version is over one
month old, so they are available for free.
--
Raimo Koski http://www.lineox.com http://www.raimokoski.com/
From erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Wed Nov 17 13:26:37 2004
From: erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Erik Williamson)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:26:37 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Not all yum mirrors down...
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4cc4e$7c7033e0$5f01a8c0@salwin2k>
References: <000a01c4cc4e$7c7033e0$5f01a8c0@salwin2k>
Message-ID: <419B518D.1040304@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Feel free to use my mirror:
http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
Best,
Erik.
Aff wrote:
>
> I stand corrected. Further testing shows that ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at is
> still up...
>
> Aff
From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Wed Nov 17 17:49:57 2004
From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:49:57 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Not all yum mirrors down...
In-Reply-To: <419B518D.1040304@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
References: <000a01c4cc4e$7c7033e0$5f01a8c0@salwin2k> <419B518D.1040304@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Message-ID: <200411171149.57893.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx>
Thanks Erik.
I just modified my yum configs to use your mirrors :)
Regards.
Rafael.
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 07:26, Erik Williamson wrote:
> Feel free to use my mirror:
>
> http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
> ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
>
> Best,
> Erik.
>
> Aff wrote:
> > I stand corrected. Further testing shows that ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at is
> > still up...
> >
> > Aff
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Wed Nov 17 18:34:23 2004
From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:34:23 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Not all yum mirrors down...
In-Reply-To: <419B518D.1040304@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
References: <000a01c4cc4e$7c7033e0$5f01a8c0@salwin2k> <419B518D.1040304@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Message-ID: <200411171234.23478.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx>
Hi Erik.
Thanks again for the mirror. Are there any plans for providing rsync access ?
I think it would be more bandwidth friendly for all.
Regards.
Rafael.
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 07:26, Erik Williamson wrote:
> Feel free to use my mirror:
>
> http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
> ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
>
> Best,
> Erik.
>
> Aff wrote:
> > I stand corrected. Further testing shows that ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at is
> > still up...
> >
> > Aff
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
From erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Wed Nov 17 21:34:31 2004
From: erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Erik Williamson)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:34:31 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Not all yum mirrors down...
In-Reply-To: <200411171234.23478.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx>
References: <000a01c4cc4e$7c7033e0$5f01a8c0@salwin2k> <419B518D.1040304@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <200411171234.23478.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx>
Message-ID: <419BC3E7.6030100@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Ah, sorry - should've included that in my previous post:
rsync://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/whitebox/
Enjoy!
Erik.
Rafael Baquero S. wrote:
> Hi Erik.
>
> Thanks again for the mirror. Are there any plans for providing rsync access ?
> I think it would be more bandwidth friendly for all.
>
> Regards.
>
> Rafael.
>
>
> On Wednesday 17 November 2004 07:26, Erik Williamson wrote:
>
>>Feel free to use my mirror:
>>
>>http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
>>ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
>>
>>Best,
>>Erik.
>>
>>Aff wrote:
>>
>>>I stand corrected. Further testing shows that ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at is
>>>still up...
>>>
>>>Aff
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Whitebox-users mailing list
>>Whitebox-users@beau.org
>>http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
>
> _______________________________________________
> Whitebox-users mailing list
> Whitebox-users@beau.org
> http://beau.org/mailman/listinfo/whitebox-users
--
e r i k w i l l i a m s o n erik@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
system admin . department of computer science . university of calgary
From aly.dharshi@telus.net Thu Nov 18 00:20:15 2004
From: aly.dharshi@telus.net (Aly Dharshi)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:20:15 -0700
Subject: [WBEL-users] Yum WBEL Mirrors
Message-ID: <419BEABF.5020009@telus.net>
Hi Folks,
Are there any North American WBEL Yum base/update repos ? Specifically Canadian
? I would be most grateful if someone can point in the correct direction.
Cheers,
Aly.
--
Aly Dharshi
aly.dharshi@telus.net
"A good speech is like a good dress
that's short enough to be interesting
and long enough to cover the subject"
From rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx Thu Nov 18 00:42:13 2004
From: rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx (Rafael Baquero S.)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:42:13 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] Yum WBEL Mirrors
In-Reply-To: <419BEABF.5020009@telus.net>
References: <419BEABF.5020009@telus.net>
Message-ID: <200411171842.13299.rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx>
Check
http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/whiteboxlinux.org/
rsync://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/whitebox/
Regards.
Rafael.
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 18:20, Aly Dharshi wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Are there any North American WBEL Yum base/update repos ? Specifically
> Canadian ? I would be most grateful if someone can point in the correct
> direction.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Aly.
From hawk82 Thu Nov 18 00:34:34 2004
From: hawk82 (hawk82)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:34:34 -0500
Subject: [WBEL-users] Yum WBEL Mirrors
In-Reply-To: <419BEABF.5020009@telus.net>
References: <419BEABF.5020009@telus.net>
Message-ID:
http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2004-November/004448.html
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:20:15 -0700, Aly Dharshi wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Are there any North American WBEL Yum base/update repos ? Specifically Canadian
> ? I would be most grateful if someone can point in the correct direction.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Aly.
>
> --
> Aly Dharshi
> aly.dharshi@telus.net
>
> "A good speech is like a good dress
> that's short enough to be interesting
> and long enough to cover the subject"
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From christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de Thu Nov 18 09:55:33 2004
From: christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de (christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:55:33 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL-List and maildrop
Message-ID: <38054.193.28.249.3.1100771733.squirrel@193.28.249.3>
Hi everybody,
i have a problem filtering mails from the WBEL-List. The other filters in
my maildroprc files are ok and mails are delivered in the right folder.
I“ve tried different constelations but none worked. This is the part for
the WBEL-List in my maildroprc-file:
if (/^List-Id:.*whitebox-users*/)
{
exception {
to $HOME/.Maillist.WBEL-User/
}
}
I“ve tried also this:
if (/^(From|To|Cc):.*whitebox-users*/)
{
exception {
to $HOME/.Maillist.WBEL-User/
}
}
...with no success.
Does anybody use maildrop with a proper mailfilter-rule?
Thanks in advance.
Christian
From kbohling@birddog.com Thu Nov 18 17:53:49 2004
From: kbohling@birddog.com (Kirby C. Bohling)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:53:49 -0600
Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL-List and maildrop
In-Reply-To: <38054.193.28.249.3.1100771733.squirrel@193.28.249.3>
References: <38054.193.28.249.3.1100771733.squirrel@193.28.249.3>
Message-ID: <20041118175345.GB11214@hawk.birddog.com>
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:55:33AM +0100, christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> i have a problem filtering mails from the WBEL-List. The other filters in
> my maildroprc files are ok and mails are delivered in the right folder.
> I“ve tried different constelations but none worked. This is the part for
> the WBEL-List in my maildroprc-file:
>
>
> if (/^List-Id:.*whitebox-users*/)
> {
> exception {
> to $HOME/.Maillist.WBEL-User/
> }
> }
^List-Id: WBEL Users \
This is roughly the regular expression I use (I actually use one
regular expression to pull the line that starts with "List-Id:" in
procmail and one in python to pick a particular folder). I'm not
sure this syntax is exactly what you'd need.
Your Regular expression probably needs to be like this:
if (/^List-Id:.*whitebox-users.*/)
Notice the '.' included after the 's' in "users". I've never used
maildrop, but if it has to match the entire line that's your
problem. If it's only a partial line match, then your expression
should have worked unless the two '-', or the ':' needs to be
escaped.
I've always thought Maildrop looked better then procmail if only
because it looks like a real programming language which makes it
more intuitive to me.
The last thing that comes to mind, is that some MDA won't create a
new folder (tmail for instance I believe won't). So my problem is
that everything is correct, but tmail refuses to create the folder.
I create the folder and my procmail scripts start working.
Kirby
From christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de Thu Nov 18 18:16:09 2004
From: christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de (christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:16:09 +0100
Subject: [WBEL-users] WBEL-List and maildrop
In-Reply-To: <20041118175345.GB11214@hawk.birddog.com>
References: <38054.193.28.249.3.1100771733.squirrel@193.28.249.3> <20041118175345.GB11214@hawk.birddog.com>
Message-ID: <419CE6E9.6070702@fedoraforum.de>
Kirby C. Bohling wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:55:33AM +0100, christian.huegel@fedoraforum.de wrote:
>
>>Hi everybody,
>>
>>i have a problem filtering mails from the WBEL-List. The other filters in
>>my maildroprc files are ok and mails are delivered in the right folder.
>>I“ve tried different constelations but none worked. This is the part for
>>the WBEL-List in my maildroprc-file:
>>
>>
>>if (/^List-Id:.*whitebox-users*/)
>>{
>> exception {
>> to $HOME/.Maillist.WBEL-User/
>> }
>>}
>
>
>
> ^List-Id: WBEL Users \
>
> This is roughly the regular expression I use (I actually use one
> regular expression to pull the line that starts with "List-Id:" in
> procmail and one in python to pick a particular folder). I'm not
> sure this syntax is exactly what you'd need.
>
> Your Regular expression probably needs to be like this:
>
> if (/^List-Id:.*whitebox-users.*/)
>
> Notice the '.' included after the 's' in "users". I've never used
> maildrop, but if it has to match the entire line that's your
> problem. If it's only a partial line match, then your expression
> should have worked unless the two '-', or the ':' needs to be
> escaped.
>
> I've always thought Maildrop looked better then procmail if only
> because it looks like a real programming language which makes it
> more intuitive to me.
>
> The last thing that comes to mind, is that some MDA won't create a
> new folder (tmail for instance I believe won't). So my problem is
> that everything is correct, but tmail refuses to create the folder.
> I create the folder and my procmail scripts start working.
>
Hi Kirby and thanks for your reply,
well, you“re right, maildrop won“t create maildirs.
I use Postfixadmin [1] for creating accounts and maildirs; There is also
a good HOWTO [2] about ist.
I just added in my create-mailbox.php this line:
system("/usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/maildircreate.sh $fDomain
".$_POST['fUsername']);
The shell-script maildircreate looks like this:
#!/bin/bash
# Some variables. Change to your need
CREATEDIR=/usr/local/courier/bin/maildirmake
VMAIL=/home/vmail
##########END CHANGE SECTION###################
cd $VMAIL
MATCH=`ls |grep "$1"`
if [ "$MATCH" != "$1" ]
then
mkdir $VMAIL/"$1"
chmod 700 vmail:vmail "$1"
chown -R vmail:vmail "$1"
cd "$1"
`$CREATEDIR $VMAIL/"$1"/"$2"`
chown -R vmail:vmail $VMAIL/$1/$2
chmod -R 700 $VMAIL/$1/$2
else
cd $VMAIL/"$1"
$CREATEDIR "$2"
chown -R vmail:vmail $VMAIL/"$1"/"$2"
chmod -R 700 $VMAIL/"$1"/"$2"
fi
So everytime i add a new mailaccount the maildir is created on-the-fly.
I guess, i“ll give it another try with maidrop-filtering.
[1] http://high5.net/postfixadmin/
[2] http://high5.net/howto/#postfixadmin
Christian
From Andy Masiar Thu Nov 18 19:19:56 2004
From: Andy Masiar