[WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions

Nick Bright nick-tech@terraworld.net
Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:31:02 -0600


Also, Ximian's Red Carpet software does things like this, you could use
the Open-Carpet variant (http://www.opencarpet.org) to do such tasks, I
think.

On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 13:15, Tony wrote:
> This is where I'm coming from:
> 
> I have a setup that will be about 500 workstations, and a handfull of servers.
> About 500 or so users as well.
> 
> What we need is a way to *centrally* manage the PCs and users, not the 
> traditional Unix way of managing them on the workstation.. ( running them as
> dumb X terminals isn't the solution here, due to bandwidth ). That sort of
> 'management' just isn't practical at this level.
> 
> By 'manage' the users:  central database of logins, and policy rights. LDAP 
> makes the most sence here of course. All workstations need to hit the LDAP 
> server for authentication, and 'policies'.
> 
> Need the ability to create and manage the 'directory' from several locations 
> ( this part isn't hard i realize as LDAP can be accessed remotely. )
> 
> I'm still messing with kiosk mode for KDE for desktop control, and if that 
> does a good enough job ill want to head that direction as well, but that 
> would need to also tie back to groups defined in the 'directrory server'.
> 
> Manage the desktops:  Again, central database control. Need to be able to
> create groups of workstations, so as to install/remove applications with out
> having to touch each workstation manually, ( even remotely ). 
> 
> I know things such as ssh and webmin can do this remotely, but its still a 
> manual, one by one process.
> 
> I guess it just boils down to managing the entire enterprise via 'policies', 
> from a central location.. not ever having to touch a PC manually unless it 
> dies, and having *all* software policy, and login information stored on a 
> central directory.
> 
> Those of us from a large windows enterprise know what I'm talking about 
> when i speak of SMS, GPO and AD.. thats what i want to emulate, as much
> as is possible..
> 
> Enterprise monitoring, thats taken care of as there are plenty of 'enterprise' 
> monitoring tools.. 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] Enterprise Managment Suggestions
> > From: Dan Geist <Dan.Geist@cox.com>
> > To: Tony@instaview.com
> > Cc: whitebox-users@beau.org
> > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:40 -0500
> >
> > Tony, That sounds like a perfectly good topic! I wish more people would
> > talk about management tools in the open-source community, but that's not
> > to say there's not lots of stuff out there.
> >
> > The question arises... what exactly are your goals? Also, what types of
> > machines are you managing?
> >
> > I worked at a place that had a RH Linux developer core with windows
> > bus-dev folks. A few cleverly-crafted small scripts were all that was
> > needed to maintain the developers hosts (nightly updates, etc).
> >
> > I have some WBEL hosts currently that utilize central authentication
> > sources using PAM_TACPLUS (so they can share user resources with routers
> > and switches, etc..).
> >
> > So... what are you trying to do, exactly?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:41, Tony wrote:
> > > Sorry if this is a tad OT, but does anyone have suggestions for
> > > 'enterprise management' tools?
> > >
> > > Having to manage a whole department of machines separately is a drag.
> > > What is needed is
> > > something like Microsoft's' GPO/Active Directory..
> > >
> > > Short of writing a whole bunch of scripts ( and perhaps a GUI for our
> > > 'admins' ) on my own,
> > > what all have you people dealt with that can do the same sort of job? And
> > > preferably GPL or
> > > BSD licensed..
> >
> > --
> > Dan Geist | dan.geist@cox.com | (404)269-6822
> > Network Security Engineer | Telephony/Data Eng | Cox Communications
> >
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