[WBEL-users] Advanced LAMP configuration(s)
Dave Nuttall
dnuttall@dnlt.com
Mon, 4 Oct 2004 08:37:24 -0500
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I've been experimenting with WBEL 3.0 for 10+ days and have no philosophical
differences with the basic premise of a highly reliable/stable production
quality distro.
However, it seems like some serious advances in the LAMP model will be still
further down the road while we wait for RHEL to catch up. In my view, I
can support going quite slowly with regard to the kernel, but see no reason
why moving to MySQL 4.x and a PHP version > 4.3.2 couldn't be mashed on
top of WBEL without causing serious harm. But DOING it is quite another
matter, at least in my recent experiments.
My experiments have been base-lined using HughesJR.com's "minimal install"
suggestions plus "yum update" with whatever comes with the most vanilla
installation.
That leaves numerous missing "devel" packages, but that's life and I've been
able to ferret those that are missing by starting with a
fresh-from-Fedora-development SRPM for httpd-2.0.52.
I can reach a point where I can build, install and run Apache 2.0.52 on the
"minimal install PLUS". Its not hard, but quite time consuming!
My next success was taking the SRPM for MySQL 4.0.20 from mysql.com and
compiling it. Again, No problem, although some packages for perl, etc. have
to be added before it builds correctly/completely.
But the last step(s) have nearly driven to drink. Those steps are building
PHP 4.3.9, again using a SRPM from Fedora development.
If you actually try to do this on your systems, by now you'll already know
that there are mandatory updates to packages such as "pcre" and "apr" that
are required. Also, you have to move from "file-3*" to "file-4*", etc, etc,
etc.
All this leads me to think that "somewhere" there must be some kind of
document/knowledge collection that "maps" the hierarchical nature of all
these many interdependent RHEL/Fedora/WBEL, etc. packages.
If you have a recipe to solve this "dilemma" I've created for myself and/or
know where to find the package relationship map, I would be eternally
grateful if you'd share that with me, either privately or publically.
TIA.
Dave Nuttall
San Antonio, TX
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I’ve been experimenting with WBEL 3.0 for 10+ =
days and
have no philosophical differences with the basic premise of a highly
reliable/stable production quality distro.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>However, it seems like some serious advances in the =
LAMP
model will be still further down the road while we wait for RHEL to =
catch up.
In my view, I can support going quite slowly with regard to the kernel, =
but see
no reason why moving to MySQL 4.x and a PHP version > 4.3.2 =
couldn’t
be mashed on top of WBEL without causing serious harm. But DOING =
it is
quite another matter, at least in my recent =
experiments.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My experiments have been base-lined using =
HughesJR.com’s
“minimal install” suggestions plus “yum update” =
with
whatever comes with the most vanilla =
installation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>That leaves numerous missing “devel” =
packages,
but that’s life and I’ve been able to ferret those that are =
missing
by starting with a fresh-from-Fedora-development SRPM for =
httpd-2.0.52.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I can reach a point where I can build, install and =
run
Apache 2.0.52 on the “minimal install PLUS”. Its not =
hard,
but quite time consuming!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My next success was taking the SRPM for MySQL 4.0.20 =
from
mysql.com and compiling it. Again, No problem, although some =
packages for
perl, etc. have to be added before it builds =
correctly/completely.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>But the last step(s) have nearly driven to =
drink.
Those steps are building PHP 4.3.9, again using a SRPM from Fedora =
development.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If you actually try to do this on your systems, by =
now you’ll
already know that there are mandatory updates to packages such as =
“pcre”
and “apr” that are required. Also, you have to move =
from “file-3*”
to “file-4*”, etc, etc, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>All this leads me to think that =
“somewhere”
there must be some kind of document/knowledge collection that =
“maps”
the hierarchical nature of all these many interdependent =
RHEL/Fedora/WBEL, etc.
packages.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If you have a recipe to solve this =
“dilemma” I’ve
created for myself and/or know where to find the package relationship =
map, I
would be eternally grateful if you’d share that with me, either =
privately
or publically.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>TIA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Dave Nuttall<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Antonio</span></font></st1:City><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, <st1:State
w:st=3D"on">TX</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font size=3D2 =
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