[WBEL-users] Upgrade Path

Johnny Hughes mailing-lists at hughesjr.com
Wed Nov 29 19:12:23 CST 2006


On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 15:24 +0000, Vic wrote:
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> I wholeheartedly hope you're right. I think it's completely unethical to
> spend one's time on the mailing list for a particular distribution, but
> contribute little but pressure to switch to an alternative.

There has never been anyone putting pressure here from CentOS.
Certainly not any developers.

ummmm ... I have been on this list, helping people, since it's
inception.  I don't see your first post until almost a full year later. 

http://beau.org/pipermail/whitebox-users/2003-December/thread.html

You are going to build SRPMS and call the White Box Enterprise Linux
updates ...  Unless you are going to duplicate the exact package layout
that John has, your builds will be different.

Does John build via a system that builds a chroot (like plague/mock) for
each package and only brings in the minimum requirements or does he
build on a full install?

Does he include all updates in the build root or have a set package
group?

Do you have the ability to download binary files from the upstream
provider and perform a check to make sure that all the proper libraries
are linked?  (They build a certain way also, that has just recently
changed (from beehive to brewbuilder) ... and their libs are correct, by
definition, and the rebuild needs to make sure it is the same).

If you do have access to the upstream files for comparison, what scripts
are you going to use to validate the binary files are correct ... do you
have a size difference that you might be concerned about ... are
different doc files OK?

Lots of issues to think about ... and the packages will be signed by
your key, not the WBEL key.

So, you are forking White Box Enterprise Linux ... as John's packages,
when he builds them, will be different than yours.

CentOS has more than a million users, we couldn't care less if people
move from WBEL to CentOS.  No CentOS Developers are hanging out here,
trying to get people to switch.  If there is a CentOS Developer here, he
was here before he became a CentOS Developer.

Fork WBEL if you want, but if you are creating a fork (and you are) what
good does that do.  Are those updates really WBEL ... and if they are
not, then what is the purpose?

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