[WBEL-users] whitebox: the pros and cons of hitchiking

Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com
Thu, 20 May 2004 17:13:46 -0500


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On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 06:43, Petr Klima wrote:

> > I'd like to re-emphasize that the "ambition" of the other RHEL derivitives
> > is really what keeps me away from them. I don't need to worry about some
> > guy's new great ideas. Their speed of updates is irrelevant to me if I
> > can't know that what I'll be getting will always be as close to RHEL as
> > humanly possible. I just need something stable and compatible. Otherwise
> > I'd run Fedora or something.
> > 
> 
> Agree ...
> 
>   but WBEL DO NOT HAVE security updates for 10 days? It is not an "guy's
> new great idea", it is a PROBLEM. I run it on servers in Internet not in
> safer LAN.
>   I feel. I made a mistake. I decided to go with WBEL because CDs was
> made really quickly (much quicker then CentOS), but as I see in Red Hat
> Security Advisory there is big lack of making updates for WBEL (CentOS
> have all of them ...) .
> 

You can update your WBEL box from the CentOS site and it will be CentOS
... there are are only very few things that are different...

>   Yes, I can make my own packages from RH .srpm's . I do it. But, WHAT
> the ditribution is FOR, when I must do what maintainer should do.
> Especialy when no one other can to do that?

This distro is for John to use at his place of employment ... if it
meets your needs, use it ... if it doesn't, use CentOS (I'm not trying
to be a smart a$$ ... just being truthful)

> 
>   WBEL is great piece of SW but may be it stay on one place but make
> move to some kind of cooperation.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 	Petr Klima

We keep having these discussions, and the answer hasn't changed from day
one ... if you want faster updates, either do them yourself or move to a
new distro.  If your server needs updates the day they come out ... buy
a RHEL support contract for $2500.00. 

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On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 06:43, Petr Klima wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>&gt; I'd like to re-emphasize that the &quot;ambition&quot; of the other RHEL derivitives
&gt; is really what keeps me away from them. I don't need to worry about some
&gt; guy's new great ideas. Their speed of updates is irrelevant to me if I
&gt; can't know that what I'll be getting will always be as close to RHEL as
&gt; humanly possible. I just need something stable and compatible. Otherwise
&gt; I'd run Fedora or something.
&gt; 

Agree ...

  but WBEL DO NOT HAVE security updates for 10 days? It is not an &quot;guy's
new great idea&quot;, it is a PROBLEM. I run it on servers in Internet not in
safer LAN.
  I feel. I made a mistake. I decided to go with WBEL because CDs was
made really quickly (much quicker then CentOS), but as I see in Red Hat
Security Advisory there is big lack of making updates for WBEL (CentOS
have all of them ...) .
</I></FONT></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
You can update your WBEL box from the CentOS site and it will be CentOS ... there are are only very few things that are different...
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>  Yes, I can make my own packages from RH .srpm's . I do it. But, WHAT
the ditribution is FOR, when I must do what maintainer should do.
Especialy when no one other can to do that?</I></FONT></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
This distro is for John to use at his place of employment ... if it meets your needs, use it ... if it doesn't, use CentOS (I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ ... just being truthful)
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>
  WBEL is great piece of SW but may be it stay on one place but make
move to some kind of cooperation.

Regards

	Petr Klima</I></FONT></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
We keep having these discussions, and the answer hasn't changed from day one ... if you want faster updates, either do them yourself or move to a new distro.&nbsp; If your server needs updates the day they come out ... buy a RHEL support contract for $2500.00. 
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