[WBEL-users] Rsync Updates Organizing

Michiel van Es michiele@info.nl
Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:20:28 +0100


William Warren wrote:
> Nowhere on whitebox's site does it mention they did this for the 
> community.  They did it for themselves and made the source public as per 
> the GPL and RHEL redistribution agreement.  So if you want  true 
> community..make one..do not expect the folks at the library to go beyond 
> their stated objective.
> 
> 


I know..I'm just pointing that it would be nice if they took more 
repsonsibility in the updates process..

M.



> Michiel van Es wrote:
> 
>>
>> Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Again, I would stop screaming abouts "Rights". I would thank John and
>>> the Parish Library for all there hard work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure I do..I am more than happy about the WhiteBox distro EXCEPT about 
>> their updates and their failover network for updates.
>> I do not think you have to say B if you say A.
>> You can not make/fix a distro and leave the other important things 
>> beside you .
>> Especially if a lot of people have offered their help to fix the 
>> updates or providing bandwith.
>> A call not being answered by John..(correct me if I'm wrong).
>>
>>>
>>> I would also say that if you are that unhappy, and since you obviously
>>> have all the answers, grab the source code and get "Beige Box" Linux up
>>> and running...
>>
>>
>>
>> I do have th answers:
>> make a plan fot the updates.
>> Provide failover and fix your number 1 product.
>> Delegate permissions/responsibality to other people so there is no 
>> single point of failure.
>>
>> I would ,as a developer/starter of project, think about the 
>> consequenses of starting it and what I leave behind.
>> Off cource I'm free to deliver a half broken product and take no 
>> responsibility at all.
>> But if I'm a good maintainer/developer I will at least give people to 
>> freedom to help my project if I'm stuck/to busy.
>>
>>>
>>> Nothing is stopping you from doing that. 
>>
>>
>>
>> I can not ftp to the Whitebox website.
>> If you can provide me the BOFH permissions I will set up a new start 
>> for the WhiteBox community?
>> Doing it myself?
>> No..delegating it to other people who are willing to help me out.
>> That's the power of a open source community.
>>
>> Michiel
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:21, Michiel van Es wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Warren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They CAn be..but he maintainers of the distro have chosen not 
>>>>> to..as is their right..:)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a) try to reply under the quote
>>>> b) it is NOT their right 'cause the whole product is Open Source and 
>>>> is a community based.
>>>> When I'm screaming I have this distro for you and it is perfect, I 
>>>> can expect people will ask counterquestions if something is broke.
>>>>
>>>> I can say :'yeah..yeah..f*ck off'  or I can say (being a reasonable 
>>>> person and understanding the power of a open source community): 'I 
>>>> couls ude some help fixing it..would you liek to help me?
>>>>
>>>> That's where the problem is..
>>>>
>>>> Michiel
>>>>
>>>>
>>> <snip>
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