[WBEL-users] I don't want a community

[Bob Ramstad]

Why not do these updates and put them on a separate system?

People who want to use them can, and people who don't, don't.

yum is very powerful, and I definitely feel that those of us who want
to run pure WBEL with every package built and test by beau.org folks
should be accomodated.

By the way, downloading and building the RPMs from source is really
pretty much trivial.  The issue is in testing, and myself, I don't
want to be overwhelmed with updates.  I would rather have periodic
releases -- a few times a year -- of a set of RPM updates all at once
which have been carefully tested, as opposed to having many updates of
single RPMs on an ad hoc basis throughout the year.

I guess what I'm driving at is that I like the status quo.  More
frequent updates, created by a wider range of people, is exactly what
I do NOT want.

-- Bob

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:56:05 -0500, Samuel Lewis <slewis@complaw.com> wrote:
> With all due respect, I suspect there is a way to maintain control
> while also encouraging community support and assistance with updates.
> It would seem that if life is getting in the way of updates being
> timely released, then people could volunteer to download the source
> from RedHat, build it, and provide the build to a central control, who
> could then test and verify the build.  At least that will save the
> central control the task of having to download and build the rpms.
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Bob Ramstad wrote:
> 
> > Hi there.
> >
> > The subject line may be a bit strong, but I think we've got a bit of a
> > cultural issue here.
> >
> > Personally, I don't want a community which contributes updates and
> > what not.  I want a centralized single point from which all updates
> > come from.  I want to know that WBEL is stable, and this is critical
> > to me, much more so than getting updates quickly.
> >
> > It is precisely the strong central control that attracts me to WBEL.
> >
> > If I wanted community involvement with thousands of optional RPMs and
> > competing versions of things, I'd use a different distro.
> >
> > Now, of course this mailing list is nice in terms of exchanging
> > information, pointers, tips and stuff like that... and so in that
> > sense a WBEL community is a good worthwhile thing.
> >
> > Also of course, the current situation in regards to mirrors and timely
> > access to updates is suboptimal.
> >
> > That said, I don't see any benefit to be gained from having random
> > members of the community rolling their own RPMs and effectively
> > forking WBEL.  If you want to do it, go ahead, but I'm sure I won't be
> > the only one who ignores it and waits for real WBEL RPMs instead.
> >
> > -- Bob
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