[WBEL-users] I don't want a community

Alexandre Aufrere loopkin@nikosoft.net
Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:25:14 +0100


I vote for !
Why there wouldn't be a project like fedoralegacy for WBEL ?
After all, John and Vikki did the tremendous job of putting together the 
distro from RH's SRPMS. Obviously soon there will be a WBEL4 (based on 
RHEL4).
Why not handing support over to another team for WBEL3 ?

Bob Ramstad a écrit :
> Why not do these updates and put them on a separate system?
> 
> People who want to use them can, and people who don't, don't.
> 
> yum is very powerful, and I definitely feel that those of us who want
> to run pure WBEL with every package built and test by beau.org folks
> should be accomodated.
> 
> By the way, downloading and building the RPMs from source is really
> pretty much trivial.  The issue is in testing, and myself, I don't
> want to be overwhelmed with updates.  I would rather have periodic
> releases -- a few times a year -- of a set of RPM updates all at once
> which have been carefully tested, as opposed to having many updates of
> single RPMs on an ad hoc basis throughout the year.
> 
> I guess what I'm driving at is that I like the status quo.  More
> frequent updates, created by a wider range of people, is exactly what
> I do NOT want.
> 
> -- Bob
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:56:05 -0500, Samuel Lewis <slewis@complaw.com> wrote:
> 
>>With all due respect, I suspect there is a way to maintain control
>>while also encouraging community support and assistance with updates.
>>It would seem that if life is getting in the way of updates being
>>timely released, then people could volunteer to download the source
>>from RedHat, build it, and provide the build to a central control, who
>>could then test and verify the build.  At least that will save the
>>central control the task of having to download and build the rpms.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Nov 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Bob Ramstad wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi there.
>>>
>>>The subject line may be a bit strong, but I think we've got a bit of a
>>>cultural issue here.
>>>
>>>Personally, I don't want a community which contributes updates and
>>>what not.  I want a centralized single point from which all updates
>>>come from.  I want to know that WBEL is stable, and this is critical
>>>to me, much more so than getting updates quickly.
>>>
>>>It is precisely the strong central control that attracts me to WBEL.
>>>
>>>If I wanted community involvement with thousands of optional RPMs and
>>>competing versions of things, I'd use a different distro.
>>>
>>>Now, of course this mailing list is nice in terms of exchanging
>>>information, pointers, tips and stuff like that... and so in that
>>>sense a WBEL community is a good worthwhile thing.
>>>
>>>Also of course, the current situation in regards to mirrors and timely
>>>access to updates is suboptimal.
>>>
>>>That said, I don't see any benefit to be gained from having random
>>>members of the community rolling their own RPMs and effectively
>>>forking WBEL.  If you want to do it, go ahead, but I'm sure I won't be
>>>the only one who ignores it and waits for real WBEL RPMs instead.
>>>
>>>-- Bob
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>>
>>
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