[WBEL-users] I don't want a community

[Alexandre Aufrere]

(well, and of course, meanwhile, John and Vikki could try to go on 
delivering their updates for WBEL3, but at an even smaller pace... i 
fail to see how, in the long term, a small library could maintain 2 or 3 
separate versions of distro and keeping the same level of wuality than 
now... it's a lot of work...)

Alexandre Aufrere a écrit :
> I vote for !
> Why there wouldn't be a project like fedoralegacy for WBEL ?
> After all, John and Vikki did the tremendous job of putting together the 
> distro from RH's SRPMS. Obviously soon there will be a WBEL4 (based on 
> RHEL4).
> Why not handing support over to another team for WBEL3 ?
> 
> Bob Ramstad a écrit :
> 
>> Why not do these updates and put them on a separate system?
>>
>> People who want to use them can, and people who don't, don't.
>>
>> yum is very powerful, and I definitely feel that those of us who want
>> to run pure WBEL with every package built and test by beau.org folks
>> should be accomodated.
>>
>> By the way, downloading and building the RPMs from source is really
>> pretty much trivial.  The issue is in testing, and myself, I don't
>> want to be overwhelmed with updates.  I would rather have periodic
>> releases -- a few times a year -- of a set of RPM updates all at once
>> which have been carefully tested, as opposed to having many updates of
>> single RPMs on an ad hoc basis throughout the year.
>>
>> I guess what I'm driving at is that I like the status quo.  More
>> frequent updates, created by a wider range of people, is exactly what
>> I do NOT want.
>>
>> -- Bob
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:56:05 -0500, Samuel Lewis <slewis@complaw.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With all due respect, I suspect there is a way to maintain control
>>> while also encouraging community support and assistance with updates.
>>> It would seem that if life is getting in the way of updates being
>>> timely released, then people could volunteer to download the source
>>> from RedHat, build it, and provide the build to a central control, who
>>> could then test and verify the build.  At least that will save the
>>> central control the task of having to download and build the rpms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Bob Ramstad wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi there.
>>>>
>>>> The subject line may be a bit strong, but I think we've got a bit of a
>>>> cultural issue here.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I don't want a community which contributes updates and
>>>> what not.  I want a centralized single point from which all updates
>>>> come from.  I want to know that WBEL is stable, and this is critical
>>>> to me, much more so than getting updates quickly.
>>>>
>>>> It is precisely the strong central control that attracts me to WBEL.
>>>>
>>>> If I wanted community involvement with thousands of optional RPMs and
>>>> competing versions of things, I'd use a different distro.
>>>>
>>>> Now, of course this mailing list is nice in terms of exchanging
>>>> information, pointers, tips and stuff like that... and so in that
>>>> sense a WBEL community is a good worthwhile thing.
>>>>
>>>> Also of course, the current situation in regards to mirrors and timely
>>>> access to updates is suboptimal.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I don't see any benefit to be gained from having random
>>>> members of the community rolling their own RPMs and effectively
>>>> forking WBEL.  If you want to do it, go ahead, but I'm sure I won't be
>>>> the only one who ignores it and waits for real WBEL RPMs instead.
>>>>
>>>> -- Bob
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