[WBEL-users] Rsync Updates Organizing

David Mir mir@soartech.com
Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:56:51 -0500


This also solidifies the point, further down the FAQ it states:
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 What does this "written offer valid for any third party" mean? Does that mean 
everyone in the world can get the source to any GPL'ed program no matter 
what?

    "Valid for any third party" means that anyone who has the offer is 
entitled to take you up on it.

    If you commercially distribute binaries not accompanied with source code, 
the GPL says you must provide a written offer to distribute the source code 
later. When users non-commercially redistribute the binaries they received 
from you, they must pass along a copy of this written offer. This means that 
people who did not get the binaries directly from you can still receive 
copies of the source code, along with the written offer.

    The reason we require the offer to be valid for any third party is so that 
people who receive the binaries indirectly in that way can order the source 
code from you. 
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**"This means that people who did not get the binaries directly from you can 
still receive copies of the source code, along with the written offer."**

Can't be much clearer than that! (Attorneys HATE semantics)

On Friday 19 November 2004 03:24 pm, Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com wrote:
> Oh, goody.  It does not say customers.  They released it outside of their
> organization, they are obligated to supply the source code.
> To wit:
>
> "Does the GPL require that source code of modified versions be posted to
> the public?
> The GPL does not require you to release your modified version. You are
> free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing
> them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an
> organization can make a modified version and use it internally without
> ever releasing it outside the organization.
> But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL
> requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's
> users, under the GPL.
>
> Thus, the GPL gives permission to release the modified program in certain
> ways, and not in other ways; but the decision of whether to release it is
> up to you."
>
>
> Yes it says "users," and we can argue semantics all day if you like.
>
>
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> Scott Mace
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>
>
>
> "William Hooper" <whooperhsd2@earthlink.net>
> Sent by: whitebox-users-admin@beau.org
> 11/19/2004 02:47 PM
>
> To
> whitebox-users@beau.org
> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: [WBEL-users] Rsync Updates Organizing
>
> Mace.Scott@tatravelcenters.com said:
> > On 19 Nov 2004 at 19:22, Michiel van Es wrote:
> >
> >
> > ( recall the GPL - they only have to provide
> > source code to their customers ).
> >
> >
> > Wrong.  They have to provide the source code.  Period.
>
> Oh, goody, this again.
>
> Well,
>
> a) No, they have to distribute the source code to people that they
> distribute binaries to.
>
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
>
> b) Not everything in RHEL or WBEL is covered by the GPL.

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David Mir
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