[WBEL-users] updates since respin-1?

Paul Pianta pantz@lqt.ca
Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:43:34 -0400


William Hooper wrote:

>Paul Pianta said:
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>>Wouldn't it be a good idea to try to have at least some control over
>>which mirrors are up-to-date and which mirrors are not? I think that it is
>>pretty important in maintaining the credibility of WBEL - and it is in the
>>quality of the mirrors that many people will base their judgement (ie.
>>through 'yum update').
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>That's not the way it works.  Mirrors volunteer their bandwidth to the
>project, they aren't going to be inclined to give anyone else the level of
>access to their system to be able to sync it.
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I was not so much thinking about controlling the mirrors themselves, 
just being selective about which mirrors are displayed on the website. 
If people report that a mirror is not being kept actively up to date - 
and the mirror admin has been contacted and is not actively working to 
update it - ditch it from the website.

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>>I know this doesn't work for the hard-coded mirrors in yum.conf but that
>>is another problem. I don't believe that any mirrors should ever be
>>hard-coded into the yum package. The main repository can be in there and
>>the website could then maintain an additional list of active mirrors that
>>people could copy/paste into their yum.conf once they realise that the
>>main repo is majorly overloaded.
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>Been there, done that.  It doesn't work because the majority don't take
>the time to make the change (see the mail archives from the first
>release).
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I read the old discussion from the April mailing list and I see the 
problem. There is not much to be done for existing installations but new 
installs (with the upcoming respin 2?) might benefit from some new 
method of using yum mirrors.

Would it be crazy to suggest naming yum.conf as yum.conf.sample (in the 
yum package) and then when people run yum the first time they get 
"Cannot find any conf file." They then either look in '/etc/yum<TAB>' 
and find a yum.conf.sample that has a nice default yum.conf layout with 
a nice header that explains how to go to whichever website to find a 
current list of active mirrors and how to add them to that yum.conf.

Other users (upon getting the "Cannot find any conf file." message) will 
just go to the wbel website or mailing list and ask - "Where is the yum 
config file?" - and the list will get blasted with 15,000 new users all 
asking the same question!

Mmmm maybe not such a good idea. :/

pantz

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