[WBEL-users] Install and Remove Applications

Nick Sklavenitis sklav@istop.com
Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:01:42 -0400 (EDT)


"Rafael Baquero S." <rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> said:

> On Friday 22 October 2004 08:06, Nick Sklavenitis wrote:
> > Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> said:
> > > At 02:16 PM 10/21/2004, Paul Pianta wrote:
> > > >I've personally never had any luck with the gui for installing packages
> > > >because it would bug out on me all the time.
> > > >
> > > >In my search for an alternative I met a new friend - yum. You should
> > > > meet him too - he is very helpful when it comes to installing packages
> > > > - and is so nice that he will do most of the work for you. Most of the
> > > > time you only have to say 3 words to him and you can trust him to get
> > > > the job done. 'yum update' is often good to have the latest packages
> > > > updated on your machine.
> > > >'yum install packagename' will install the package and any dependencies
> > > > it needs.
> > >
> > > OK.  I looked at the GUI Add/Remove packages program and could not find
> > > out how to add a program it does not list....
> > >
> > > So on to yum which makes sense anyway, as that is what controls the
> > > updates.
> > >
> > > So I want to add sambaconsole from Ideal.org, it is NOT yet part of the
> > > standard Samba package (unlike Ideals's tools).
> > >
> > > I have no idea what the package name is.  I see the rpm on their site,
> > > though and they have the string 'sambaconsole' in the file name.  They
> > > also mention it is built on 'imc' that I do not find on my system.
> > >
> > > SO:
> > >
> > > Do I just run:
> > >
> > > yum install sambaconsole
> > >
> > > And expect the servers to find this on idealx's site?  Will it
> > > automatically resolve dependances and get imc as well?
> > >
> > > Or do I fetch these via http, and store them in the /var/cache/yum
> > > directory first?  Then how would updates be handled?
> > >
> > > Oh, a second question about yum.  Somewhere in all my readings I noted
> > > that updates will NOT be installed if you have modified the packages 
conf
> >
> > files...
> >
> > > Whow!  This has to be wrong!  I can see that I COULD have done bind
> > > differently and modified the named-exceptions.conf file (or whatever it
> > > is called) instead of named.conf, but neither openldab nor samba gives 
me
> > > anyway to configure them (that I have discovered) that does not modify
> > > the supplied configs.  And if is were the case, would not these programs
> > > tell you to modify files other than the supplied configs????
> >
> > What your asking to do is most likely not possible. here is the reason it
> > wont work. does idealX have a yum repo? im thinking no, i think they most
> > likely just provide the package. what you want to do would mean that all
> > rpm's on the Internet are part of a central DB that would resolve cryptic
> > package deps. I think that is very far down the line.
> 
> Considering that the same app is sometimes packaged differently depending 
on 
> the distribution I would say that having a central DB is probably very, 
very, 
> very far down the line. I haven't checked the rpm docs lately, but probably 
> introducing a distribution flag together with the version flags should 
help. 
> Depending on the distribution flag a package could install in a different 
> manner.
> 
> Anyone has heard of such changes in RPM?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Rafael.

Rafael the following doesn't exist, i was just saying that in theory 
something like this could work but at the moment it does not exist and the 
fact that there are hundreds of linux distro's would make it even more 
difficult to implement. long story short i was talking in a perfect world 
hypothetical situation, which at the moment is non-existant.

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