[WBEL-users] Install and Remove Applications

[Rafael Baquero S.]

On Friday 22 October 2004 13:01, Nick Sklavenitis wrote:
> "Rafael Baquero S." <rbaqueros@yahoo.com.mx> said:
> > On Friday 22 October 2004 08:06, Nick Sklavenitis wrote:
> > > Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> said:
> > > > At 02:16 PM 10/21/2004, Paul Pianta wrote:
> > > > >I've personally never had any luck with the gui for installing
> > > > > packages because it would bug out on me all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > >In my search for an alternative I met a new friend - yum. You should
> > > > > meet him too - he is very helpful when it comes to installing
> > > > > packages - and is so nice that he will do most of the work for you.
> > > > > Most of the time you only have to say 3 words to him and you can
> > > > > trust him to get the job done. 'yum update' is often good to have
> > > > > the latest packages updated on your machine.
> > > > >'yum install packagename' will install the package and any
> > > > > dependencies it needs.
> > > >
> > > > OK.  I looked at the GUI Add/Remove packages program and could not
> > > > find out how to add a program it does not list....
> > > >
> > > > So on to yum which makes sense anyway, as that is what controls the
> > > > updates.
> > > >
> > > > So I want to add sambaconsole from Ideal.org, it is NOT yet part of
> > > > the standard Samba package (unlike Ideals's tools).
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea what the package name is.  I see the rpm on their
> > > > site, though and they have the string 'sambaconsole' in the file
> > > > name.  They also mention it is built on 'imc' that I do not find on
> > > > my system.
> > > >
> > > > SO:
> > > >
> > > > Do I just run:
> > > >
> > > > yum install sambaconsole
> > > >
> > > > And expect the servers to find this on idealx's site?  Will it
> > > > automatically resolve dependances and get imc as well?
> > > >
> > > > Or do I fetch these via http, and store them in the /var/cache/yum
> > > > directory first?  Then how would updates be handled?
> > > >
> > > > Oh, a second question about yum.  Somewhere in all my readings I
> > > > noted that updates will NOT be installed if you have modified the
> > > > packages
>
> conf
>
> > > files...
> > >
> > > > Whow!  This has to be wrong!  I can see that I COULD have done bind
> > > > differently and modified the named-exceptions.conf file (or whatever
> > > > it is called) instead of named.conf, but neither openldab nor samba
> > > > gives
>
> me
>
> > > > anyway to configure them (that I have discovered) that does not
> > > > modify the supplied configs.  And if is were the case, would not
> > > > these programs tell you to modify files other than the supplied
> > > > configs????
> > >
> > > What your asking to do is most likely not possible. here is the reason
> > > it wont work. does idealX have a yum repo? im thinking no, i think they
> > > most likely just provide the package. what you want to do would mean
> > > that all rpm's on the Internet are part of a central DB that would
> > > resolve cryptic package deps. I think that is very far down the line.
> >
> > Considering that the same app is sometimes packaged differently depending
>
> on
>
> > the distribution I would say that having a central DB is probably very,
>
> very,
>
> > very far down the line. I haven't checked the rpm docs lately, but
> > probably introducing a distribution flag together with the version flags
> > should
>
> help.
>
> > Depending on the distribution flag a package could install in a different
> > manner.
> >
> > Anyone has heard of such changes in RPM?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Rafael.
>
> Rafael the following doesn't exist, i was just saying that in theory
> something like this could work but at the moment it does not exist and the
> fact that there are hundreds of linux distro's would make it even more
> difficult to implement. long story short i was talking in a perfect world
> hypothetical situation, which at the moment is non-existant.

Ooops, I was really thinking out loud :)

Regards.

Rafael.